argh, 90 xj starting revisited (cps?)
 

Damn, just when I fix one thing its another...

The other day in traffic it died at a particularly busy intersection here in
town, but after the hood up and me plugging and unplugging the cps sensor a
few times it starts up and I drive to where I was going. An hour after
there I go to leave and it wont start. I try my tricks again for about
15-20 minutes... no go. So we push the thing over to the side to park it
and so I can get a ride, and just for fun I tried it again and now it will
start.

Got it home that night and now it won't crank again. Just sitting there
cold this time. I replaced the cps sensor a few months ago, and cleaned all
my connectors. Seems like its heat related most of the time, as if by me
lifting the hood so air can cool it a bit seems to work a little. The temp
needle doesnt' show it getting hot though. My idle is low I know and only
when its in gear... maybe I need to change the auto tranny fluid?

I'm about this close | | to selling it only because with this new job I need
very reliable transportation. Any more ideas?

Troy

Re: argh, 90 xj starting revisited (cps?)
 

When my 88 did that it had a rotted mesh ground strap from the rear of
the engine head to the firewall.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Troy wrote:
>
> Damn, just when I fix one thing its another...
>
> The other day in traffic it died at a particularly busy intersection here in
> town, but after the hood up and me plugging and unplugging the cps sensor a
> few times it starts up and I drive to where I was going. An hour after
> there I go to leave and it wont start. I try my tricks again for about
> 15-20 minutes... no go. So we push the thing over to the side to park it
> and so I can get a ride, and just for fun I tried it again and now it will
> start.
>
> Got it home that night and now it won't crank again. Just sitting there
> cold this time. I replaced the cps sensor a few months ago, and cleaned all
> my connectors. Seems like its heat related most of the time, as if by me
> lifting the hood so air can cool it a bit seems to work a little. The temp
> needle doesnt' show it getting hot though. My idle is low I know and only
> when its in gear... maybe I need to change the auto tranny fluid?
>
> I'm about this close | | to selling it only because with this new job I need
> very reliable transportation. Any more ideas?
>
> Troy

Re: argh, 90 xj starting revisited (cps?)
 

When my 88 did that it had a rotted mesh ground strap from the rear of
the engine head to the firewall.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Troy wrote:
>
> Damn, just when I fix one thing its another...
>
> The other day in traffic it died at a particularly busy intersection here in
> town, but after the hood up and me plugging and unplugging the cps sensor a
> few times it starts up and I drive to where I was going. An hour after
> there I go to leave and it wont start. I try my tricks again for about
> 15-20 minutes... no go. So we push the thing over to the side to park it
> and so I can get a ride, and just for fun I tried it again and now it will
> start.
>
> Got it home that night and now it won't crank again. Just sitting there
> cold this time. I replaced the cps sensor a few months ago, and cleaned all
> my connectors. Seems like its heat related most of the time, as if by me
> lifting the hood so air can cool it a bit seems to work a little. The temp
> needle doesnt' show it getting hot though. My idle is low I know and only
> when its in gear... maybe I need to change the auto tranny fluid?
>
> I'm about this close | | to selling it only because with this new job I need
> very reliable transportation. Any more ideas?
>
> Troy

Re: argh, 90 xj starting revisited (cps?)
 

When my 88 did that it had a rotted mesh ground strap from the rear of
the engine head to the firewall.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Troy wrote:
>
> Damn, just when I fix one thing its another...
>
> The other day in traffic it died at a particularly busy intersection here in
> town, but after the hood up and me plugging and unplugging the cps sensor a
> few times it starts up and I drive to where I was going. An hour after
> there I go to leave and it wont start. I try my tricks again for about
> 15-20 minutes... no go. So we push the thing over to the side to park it
> and so I can get a ride, and just for fun I tried it again and now it will
> start.
>
> Got it home that night and now it won't crank again. Just sitting there
> cold this time. I replaced the cps sensor a few months ago, and cleaned all
> my connectors. Seems like its heat related most of the time, as if by me
> lifting the hood so air can cool it a bit seems to work a little. The temp
> needle doesnt' show it getting hot though. My idle is low I know and only
> when its in gear... maybe I need to change the auto tranny fluid?
>
> I'm about this close | | to selling it only because with this new job I need
> very reliable transportation. Any more ideas?
>
> Troy

Re: argh, 90 xj starting revisited (cps?)
 

When my 88 did that it had a rotted mesh ground strap from the rear of
the engine head to the firewall.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Troy wrote:
>
> Damn, just when I fix one thing its another...
>
> The other day in traffic it died at a particularly busy intersection here in
> town, but after the hood up and me plugging and unplugging the cps sensor a
> few times it starts up and I drive to where I was going. An hour after
> there I go to leave and it wont start. I try my tricks again for about
> 15-20 minutes... no go. So we push the thing over to the side to park it
> and so I can get a ride, and just for fun I tried it again and now it will
> start.
>
> Got it home that night and now it won't crank again. Just sitting there
> cold this time. I replaced the cps sensor a few months ago, and cleaned all
> my connectors. Seems like its heat related most of the time, as if by me
> lifting the hood so air can cool it a bit seems to work a little. The temp
> needle doesnt' show it getting hot though. My idle is low I know and only
> when its in gear... maybe I need to change the auto tranny fluid?
>
> I'm about this close | | to selling it only because with this new job I need
> very reliable transportation. Any more ideas?
>
> Troy

Re: argh, 90 xj starting revisited (cps?)
 

Heh yeah checked that. Seems good, I tugged on it a few times and it holds
well. I was just outside trying to mess with it and remembered another guy
I talked to who had the same problem and he replaced his ignition control
module... Said it was a royal PITA but it hasn't given him problems since.
I'm wondering if I'm going to have to do the same. Is there a way I can
tell if its bad?

Troy


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44E60976.DEE3B250@sympatico.ca...
> When my 88 did that it had a rotted mesh ground strap from the rear of
> the engine head to the firewall.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Troy wrote:
>>
>> Damn, just when I fix one thing its another...
>>
>> The other day in traffic it died at a particularly busy intersection here
>> in
>> town, but after the hood up and me plugging and unplugging the cps sensor
>> a
>> few times it starts up and I drive to where I was going. An hour after
>> there I go to leave and it wont start. I try my tricks again for about
>> 15-20 minutes... no go. So we push the thing over to the side to park it
>> and so I can get a ride, and just for fun I tried it again and now it
>> will
>> start.
>>
>> Got it home that night and now it won't crank again. Just sitting there
>> cold this time. I replaced the cps sensor a few months ago, and cleaned
>> all
>> my connectors. Seems like its heat related most of the time, as if by me
>> lifting the hood so air can cool it a bit seems to work a little. The
>> temp
>> needle doesnt' show it getting hot though. My idle is low I know and
>> only
>> when its in gear... maybe I need to change the auto tranny fluid?
>>
>> I'm about this close | | to selling it only because with this new job I
>> need
>> very reliable transportation. Any more ideas?
>>
>> Troy

Re: argh, 90 xj starting revisited (cps?)
 

Heh yeah checked that. Seems good, I tugged on it a few times and it holds
well. I was just outside trying to mess with it and remembered another guy
I talked to who had the same problem and he replaced his ignition control
module... Said it was a royal PITA but it hasn't given him problems since.
I'm wondering if I'm going to have to do the same. Is there a way I can
tell if its bad?

Troy


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44E60976.DEE3B250@sympatico.ca...
> When my 88 did that it had a rotted mesh ground strap from the rear of
> the engine head to the firewall.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Troy wrote:
>>
>> Damn, just when I fix one thing its another...
>>
>> The other day in traffic it died at a particularly busy intersection here
>> in
>> town, but after the hood up and me plugging and unplugging the cps sensor
>> a
>> few times it starts up and I drive to where I was going. An hour after
>> there I go to leave and it wont start. I try my tricks again for about
>> 15-20 minutes... no go. So we push the thing over to the side to park it
>> and so I can get a ride, and just for fun I tried it again and now it
>> will
>> start.
>>
>> Got it home that night and now it won't crank again. Just sitting there
>> cold this time. I replaced the cps sensor a few months ago, and cleaned
>> all
>> my connectors. Seems like its heat related most of the time, as if by me
>> lifting the hood so air can cool it a bit seems to work a little. The
>> temp
>> needle doesnt' show it getting hot though. My idle is low I know and
>> only
>> when its in gear... maybe I need to change the auto tranny fluid?
>>
>> I'm about this close | | to selling it only because with this new job I
>> need
>> very reliable transportation. Any more ideas?
>>
>> Troy

Re: argh, 90 xj starting revisited (cps?)
 

Heh yeah checked that. Seems good, I tugged on it a few times and it holds
well. I was just outside trying to mess with it and remembered another guy
I talked to who had the same problem and he replaced his ignition control
module... Said it was a royal PITA but it hasn't given him problems since.
I'm wondering if I'm going to have to do the same. Is there a way I can
tell if its bad?

Troy


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44E60976.DEE3B250@sympatico.ca...
> When my 88 did that it had a rotted mesh ground strap from the rear of
> the engine head to the firewall.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Troy wrote:
>>
>> Damn, just when I fix one thing its another...
>>
>> The other day in traffic it died at a particularly busy intersection here
>> in
>> town, but after the hood up and me plugging and unplugging the cps sensor
>> a
>> few times it starts up and I drive to where I was going. An hour after
>> there I go to leave and it wont start. I try my tricks again for about
>> 15-20 minutes... no go. So we push the thing over to the side to park it
>> and so I can get a ride, and just for fun I tried it again and now it
>> will
>> start.
>>
>> Got it home that night and now it won't crank again. Just sitting there
>> cold this time. I replaced the cps sensor a few months ago, and cleaned
>> all
>> my connectors. Seems like its heat related most of the time, as if by me
>> lifting the hood so air can cool it a bit seems to work a little. The
>> temp
>> needle doesnt' show it getting hot though. My idle is low I know and
>> only
>> when its in gear... maybe I need to change the auto tranny fluid?
>>
>> I'm about this close | | to selling it only because with this new job I
>> need
>> very reliable transportation. Any more ideas?
>>
>> Troy

Re: argh, 90 xj starting revisited (cps?)
 

Heh yeah checked that. Seems good, I tugged on it a few times and it holds
well. I was just outside trying to mess with it and remembered another guy
I talked to who had the same problem and he replaced his ignition control
module... Said it was a royal PITA but it hasn't given him problems since.
I'm wondering if I'm going to have to do the same. Is there a way I can
tell if its bad?

Troy


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44E60976.DEE3B250@sympatico.ca...
> When my 88 did that it had a rotted mesh ground strap from the rear of
> the engine head to the firewall.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Troy wrote:
>>
>> Damn, just when I fix one thing its another...
>>
>> The other day in traffic it died at a particularly busy intersection here
>> in
>> town, but after the hood up and me plugging and unplugging the cps sensor
>> a
>> few times it starts up and I drive to where I was going. An hour after
>> there I go to leave and it wont start. I try my tricks again for about
>> 15-20 minutes... no go. So we push the thing over to the side to park it
>> and so I can get a ride, and just for fun I tried it again and now it
>> will
>> start.
>>
>> Got it home that night and now it won't crank again. Just sitting there
>> cold this time. I replaced the cps sensor a few months ago, and cleaned
>> all
>> my connectors. Seems like its heat related most of the time, as if by me
>> lifting the hood so air can cool it a bit seems to work a little. The
>> temp
>> needle doesnt' show it getting hot though. My idle is low I know and
>> only
>> when its in gear... maybe I need to change the auto tranny fluid?
>>
>> I'm about this close | | to selling it only because with this new job I
>> need
>> very reliable transportation. Any more ideas?
>>
>> Troy

Re: argh, 90 xj starting revisited (cps?)
 

Remove the ground strap, clean it, clean the connections on both ends and
see if that helps. Check every wire and every ground before you go
shotgunning new parts at it.

Carl


"Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
news:Q4ydneXZsLEPlnvZnZ2dnUVZ_sCdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Heh yeah checked that. Seems good, I tugged on it a few times and it
> holds well. I was just outside trying to mess with it and remembered
> another guy I talked to who had the same problem and he replaced his
> ignition control module... Said it was a royal PITA but it hasn't given
> him problems since. I'm wondering if I'm going to have to do the same.
> Is there a way I can tell if its bad?
>
> Troy
>
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44E60976.DEE3B250@sympatico.ca...
>> When my 88 did that it had a rotted mesh ground strap from the rear of
>> the engine head to the firewall.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> Troy wrote:
>>>
>>> Damn, just when I fix one thing its another...
>>>
>>> The other day in traffic it died at a particularly busy intersection
>>> here in
>>> town, but after the hood up and me plugging and unplugging the cps
>>> sensor a
>>> few times it starts up and I drive to where I was going. An hour after
>>> there I go to leave and it wont start. I try my tricks again for about
>>> 15-20 minutes... no go. So we push the thing over to the side to park
>>> it
>>> and so I can get a ride, and just for fun I tried it again and now it
>>> will
>>> start.
>>>
>>> Got it home that night and now it won't crank again. Just sitting there
>>> cold this time. I replaced the cps sensor a few months ago, and cleaned
>>> all
>>> my connectors. Seems like its heat related most of the time, as if by
>>> me
>>> lifting the hood so air can cool it a bit seems to work a little. The
>>> temp
>>> needle doesnt' show it getting hot though. My idle is low I know and
>>> only
>>> when its in gear... maybe I need to change the auto tranny fluid?
>>>
>>> I'm about this close | | to selling it only because with this new job I
>>> need
>>> very reliable transportation. Any more ideas?
>>>
>>> Troy
>
>