ARB Bull Bar signal wiring
I am trying to wire the marker lamps on the bull bar into the factory
marker lamps. I was trying to figure out the polarity of the wires and here is what I found: I found the feed and the ground for the turnsignal. The VOM showed a pulsing 5-6 volts every time it flashed. So I switched off the turn signals and switched on the parking lights without disconnecting the leads to the VOM. Well then the VOM pinned negative. Is this normal or am I missing something?? TIA, Jay |
Re: ARB Bull Bar signal wiring
You probably just had the meter leads reversed. On the ARB, is one side of
the lights grounded ? I don't know what vehicle you are working on, but most newer side marker lights are isolated, although one conductor will return to frame ground. Turn the lights off, pull a bulb out and check each contact to frame ground. Use the grounded wire for ground on the ARB. -- JimG 80' CJ-7, 258 CID 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines 4.56 D30-D44 SOA D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks Warn 8000i w/dual batteries LockRight F&R "Jay" <shady360@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote in message news:QGCKb.1139$eF2.458@nwrdny02.gnilink.net... > I am trying to wire the marker lamps on the bull bar into the factory > marker lamps. I was trying to figure out the polarity of the wires and > here is what I found: > > I found the feed and the ground for the turnsignal. The VOM showed a > pulsing 5-6 volts every time it flashed. So I switched off the turn > signals and switched on the parking lights without disconnecting the > leads to the VOM. Well then the VOM pinned negative. Is this normal or > am I missing something?? > > TIA, > > Jay > |
Re: ARB Bull Bar signal wiring
You probably just had the meter leads reversed. On the ARB, is one side of
the lights grounded ? I don't know what vehicle you are working on, but most newer side marker lights are isolated, although one conductor will return to frame ground. Turn the lights off, pull a bulb out and check each contact to frame ground. Use the grounded wire for ground on the ARB. -- JimG 80' CJ-7, 258 CID 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines 4.56 D30-D44 SOA D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks Warn 8000i w/dual batteries LockRight F&R "Jay" <shady360@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote in message news:QGCKb.1139$eF2.458@nwrdny02.gnilink.net... > I am trying to wire the marker lamps on the bull bar into the factory > marker lamps. I was trying to figure out the polarity of the wires and > here is what I found: > > I found the feed and the ground for the turnsignal. The VOM showed a > pulsing 5-6 volts every time it flashed. So I switched off the turn > signals and switched on the parking lights without disconnecting the > leads to the VOM. Well then the VOM pinned negative. Is this normal or > am I missing something?? > > TIA, > > Jay > |
Re: ARB Bull Bar signal wiring
You probably just had the meter leads reversed. On the ARB, is one side of
the lights grounded ? I don't know what vehicle you are working on, but most newer side marker lights are isolated, although one conductor will return to frame ground. Turn the lights off, pull a bulb out and check each contact to frame ground. Use the grounded wire for ground on the ARB. -- JimG 80' CJ-7, 258 CID 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines 4.56 D30-D44 SOA D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks Warn 8000i w/dual batteries LockRight F&R "Jay" <shady360@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote in message news:QGCKb.1139$eF2.458@nwrdny02.gnilink.net... > I am trying to wire the marker lamps on the bull bar into the factory > marker lamps. I was trying to figure out the polarity of the wires and > here is what I found: > > I found the feed and the ground for the turnsignal. The VOM showed a > pulsing 5-6 volts every time it flashed. So I switched off the turn > signals and switched on the parking lights without disconnecting the > leads to the VOM. Well then the VOM pinned negative. Is this normal or > am I missing something?? > > TIA, > > Jay > |
Re: ARB Bull Bar signal wiring
Sorry, let me clarify. First, no nothing is grounded on the ARB. There
are simply two wires about 3-4 feet long coming from each light assembly (i.e., left and right side assemblies), and they aren't connected to anything yet. Second, the vehicle is an '04 Rubicon. I pulled one of the OEM sidemarker bulbs out and measured the voltage there. With the turnsignal on I got positive pulsing voltage. However, when I switched off the turn signals and switched on the parking lights without disconnecting the leads to the VOM the VOM pinned negative. JimG wrote: > You probably just had the meter leads reversed. On the ARB, is one side of > the lights grounded ? I don't know what vehicle you are working on, but > most newer side marker lights are isolated, although one conductor will > return to frame ground. Turn the lights off, pull a bulb out and check each > contact to frame ground. Use the grounded wire for ground on the ARB. > |
Re: ARB Bull Bar signal wiring
Sorry, let me clarify. First, no nothing is grounded on the ARB. There
are simply two wires about 3-4 feet long coming from each light assembly (i.e., left and right side assemblies), and they aren't connected to anything yet. Second, the vehicle is an '04 Rubicon. I pulled one of the OEM sidemarker bulbs out and measured the voltage there. With the turnsignal on I got positive pulsing voltage. However, when I switched off the turn signals and switched on the parking lights without disconnecting the leads to the VOM the VOM pinned negative. JimG wrote: > You probably just had the meter leads reversed. On the ARB, is one side of > the lights grounded ? I don't know what vehicle you are working on, but > most newer side marker lights are isolated, although one conductor will > return to frame ground. Turn the lights off, pull a bulb out and check each > contact to frame ground. Use the grounded wire for ground on the ARB. > |
Re: ARB Bull Bar signal wiring
Sorry, let me clarify. First, no nothing is grounded on the ARB. There
are simply two wires about 3-4 feet long coming from each light assembly (i.e., left and right side assemblies), and they aren't connected to anything yet. Second, the vehicle is an '04 Rubicon. I pulled one of the OEM sidemarker bulbs out and measured the voltage there. With the turnsignal on I got positive pulsing voltage. However, when I switched off the turn signals and switched on the parking lights without disconnecting the leads to the VOM the VOM pinned negative. JimG wrote: > You probably just had the meter leads reversed. On the ARB, is one side of > the lights grounded ? I don't know what vehicle you are working on, but > most newer side marker lights are isolated, although one conductor will > return to frame ground. Turn the lights off, pull a bulb out and check each > contact to frame ground. Use the grounded wire for ground on the ARB. > |
Re: ARB Bull Bar signal wiring
On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 17:58:08 GMT, Jay <shady360@NOSPAMoptonline.net>
wrote: >I am trying to wire the marker lamps on the bull bar into the factory >marker lamps. I was trying to figure out the polarity of the wires and >here is what I found: > >I found the feed and the ground for the turnsignal. The VOM showed a >pulsing 5-6 volts every time it flashed. So I switched off the turn >signals and switched on the parking lights without disconnecting the >leads to the VOM. Well then the VOM pinned negative. Is this normal or >am I missing something?? > The way the factory side marker lights are wired is this: One lead goes to the parking light circuit and the other goes to the turn signal circuit. This way the bulb, when the headlights are on (with no trun signals) is grounded through the t/s bulbs. When you turn the t/s's on it provides voltage on both sides of the circuit(when the t/s's flash on) so the side markers go off when the turn signals come on. If you look at the side marker bulbs you'll notice they flash opposite of the front t/s bulbs. This is how they accomplish this. If you take the wires from your bull bar and wire them into the two wires going to the marker light, they should flash with the marker light. If the lights are not grounded to the bull bar, polarity makes no difference in this case. -- Old Crow '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl' '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1 TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51 |
Re: ARB Bull Bar signal wiring
On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 17:58:08 GMT, Jay <shady360@NOSPAMoptonline.net>
wrote: >I am trying to wire the marker lamps on the bull bar into the factory >marker lamps. I was trying to figure out the polarity of the wires and >here is what I found: > >I found the feed and the ground for the turnsignal. The VOM showed a >pulsing 5-6 volts every time it flashed. So I switched off the turn >signals and switched on the parking lights without disconnecting the >leads to the VOM. Well then the VOM pinned negative. Is this normal or >am I missing something?? > The way the factory side marker lights are wired is this: One lead goes to the parking light circuit and the other goes to the turn signal circuit. This way the bulb, when the headlights are on (with no trun signals) is grounded through the t/s bulbs. When you turn the t/s's on it provides voltage on both sides of the circuit(when the t/s's flash on) so the side markers go off when the turn signals come on. If you look at the side marker bulbs you'll notice they flash opposite of the front t/s bulbs. This is how they accomplish this. If you take the wires from your bull bar and wire them into the two wires going to the marker light, they should flash with the marker light. If the lights are not grounded to the bull bar, polarity makes no difference in this case. -- Old Crow '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl' '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1 TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51 |
Re: ARB Bull Bar signal wiring
On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 17:58:08 GMT, Jay <shady360@NOSPAMoptonline.net>
wrote: >I am trying to wire the marker lamps on the bull bar into the factory >marker lamps. I was trying to figure out the polarity of the wires and >here is what I found: > >I found the feed and the ground for the turnsignal. The VOM showed a >pulsing 5-6 volts every time it flashed. So I switched off the turn >signals and switched on the parking lights without disconnecting the >leads to the VOM. Well then the VOM pinned negative. Is this normal or >am I missing something?? > The way the factory side marker lights are wired is this: One lead goes to the parking light circuit and the other goes to the turn signal circuit. This way the bulb, when the headlights are on (with no trun signals) is grounded through the t/s bulbs. When you turn the t/s's on it provides voltage on both sides of the circuit(when the t/s's flash on) so the side markers go off when the turn signals come on. If you look at the side marker bulbs you'll notice they flash opposite of the front t/s bulbs. This is how they accomplish this. If you take the wires from your bull bar and wire them into the two wires going to the marker light, they should flash with the marker light. If the lights are not grounded to the bull bar, polarity makes no difference in this case. -- Old Crow '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl' '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1 TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51 |
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