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hh 09-30-2004 08:17 PM

anyone has seen skid plate made from composite material?
 
Happen to see ATV skid plate made from composite materials, the maker claim
they are stronger and much lighter, which is ture to my knowledge. but I did
not find anyone making such thing for SUV. anyone has seen one somewhere?

btw, for these who are not familiar, composite materials such as
carbon/glass fiber reinforced epoxy can be 3-5 times stiff and strong
compared with steels at similar weight.



Michael White 09-30-2004 09:26 PM

Re: anyone has seen skid plate made from composite material?
 
hh (pine@myrealbox.com) wrote on Thursday 30 September 2004 07:17 pm:

> Happen to see ATV skid plate made from composite materials, the maker
> claim they are stronger and much lighter, which is ture to my knowledge.
> but I did not find anyone making such thing for SUV. anyone has seen one
> somewhere?
>
> btw, for these who are not familiar, composite materials such as
> carbon/glass fiber reinforced epoxy can be 3-5 times stiff and strong
> compared with steels at similar weight.


The only problem I can see is that the metal will bend while the compsite
will shatter. I would think this would be especially true on edges, where
the compsite may chip away.
--
Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer, 1891

Michael White 09-30-2004 09:26 PM

Re: anyone has seen skid plate made from composite material?
 
hh (pine@myrealbox.com) wrote on Thursday 30 September 2004 07:17 pm:

> Happen to see ATV skid plate made from composite materials, the maker
> claim they are stronger and much lighter, which is ture to my knowledge.
> but I did not find anyone making such thing for SUV. anyone has seen one
> somewhere?
>
> btw, for these who are not familiar, composite materials such as
> carbon/glass fiber reinforced epoxy can be 3-5 times stiff and strong
> compared with steels at similar weight.


The only problem I can see is that the metal will bend while the compsite
will shatter. I would think this would be especially true on edges, where
the compsite may chip away.
--
Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer, 1891

Michael White 09-30-2004 09:26 PM

Re: anyone has seen skid plate made from composite material?
 
hh (pine@myrealbox.com) wrote on Thursday 30 September 2004 07:17 pm:

> Happen to see ATV skid plate made from composite materials, the maker
> claim they are stronger and much lighter, which is ture to my knowledge.
> but I did not find anyone making such thing for SUV. anyone has seen one
> somewhere?
>
> btw, for these who are not familiar, composite materials such as
> carbon/glass fiber reinforced epoxy can be 3-5 times stiff and strong
> compared with steels at similar weight.


The only problem I can see is that the metal will bend while the compsite
will shatter. I would think this would be especially true on edges, where
the compsite may chip away.
--
Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer, 1891

hh 09-30-2004 11:41 PM

Re: anyone has seen skid plate made from composite material?
 
if it bends, it is not going to protect, so it doesn't matter if it bends or
shatters. for impact (as opposite to slowly load it), composite absorbs
more energy than steel does, and you don't need to worry about rust anymore.

anyone knows where to get dimensions of skid plate? I know you can crawl
underneath, but if there is some data around ready to use, I would save my
energy. since skid plate is basically plates, very easy to make once I get
dimension.

"Michael White" <michael12@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:mn27d.3363$Yr.1382@newsread3.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
> hh (pine@myrealbox.com) wrote on Thursday 30 September 2004 07:17 pm:
>
> > Happen to see ATV skid plate made from composite materials, the maker
> > claim they are stronger and much lighter, which is ture to my knowledge.
> > but I did not find anyone making such thing for SUV. anyone has seen one
> > somewhere?
> >
> > btw, for these who are not familiar, composite materials such as
> > carbon/glass fiber reinforced epoxy can be 3-5 times stiff and strong
> > compared with steels at similar weight.

>
> The only problem I can see is that the metal will bend while the compsite
> will shatter. I would think this would be especially true on edges, where
> the compsite may chip away.
> --
> Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
> fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer, 1891




hh 09-30-2004 11:41 PM

Re: anyone has seen skid plate made from composite material?
 
if it bends, it is not going to protect, so it doesn't matter if it bends or
shatters. for impact (as opposite to slowly load it), composite absorbs
more energy than steel does, and you don't need to worry about rust anymore.

anyone knows where to get dimensions of skid plate? I know you can crawl
underneath, but if there is some data around ready to use, I would save my
energy. since skid plate is basically plates, very easy to make once I get
dimension.

"Michael White" <michael12@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:mn27d.3363$Yr.1382@newsread3.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
> hh (pine@myrealbox.com) wrote on Thursday 30 September 2004 07:17 pm:
>
> > Happen to see ATV skid plate made from composite materials, the maker
> > claim they are stronger and much lighter, which is ture to my knowledge.
> > but I did not find anyone making such thing for SUV. anyone has seen one
> > somewhere?
> >
> > btw, for these who are not familiar, composite materials such as
> > carbon/glass fiber reinforced epoxy can be 3-5 times stiff and strong
> > compared with steels at similar weight.

>
> The only problem I can see is that the metal will bend while the compsite
> will shatter. I would think this would be especially true on edges, where
> the compsite may chip away.
> --
> Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
> fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer, 1891




hh 09-30-2004 11:41 PM

Re: anyone has seen skid plate made from composite material?
 
if it bends, it is not going to protect, so it doesn't matter if it bends or
shatters. for impact (as opposite to slowly load it), composite absorbs
more energy than steel does, and you don't need to worry about rust anymore.

anyone knows where to get dimensions of skid plate? I know you can crawl
underneath, but if there is some data around ready to use, I would save my
energy. since skid plate is basically plates, very easy to make once I get
dimension.

"Michael White" <michael12@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:mn27d.3363$Yr.1382@newsread3.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
> hh (pine@myrealbox.com) wrote on Thursday 30 September 2004 07:17 pm:
>
> > Happen to see ATV skid plate made from composite materials, the maker
> > claim they are stronger and much lighter, which is ture to my knowledge.
> > but I did not find anyone making such thing for SUV. anyone has seen one
> > somewhere?
> >
> > btw, for these who are not familiar, composite materials such as
> > carbon/glass fiber reinforced epoxy can be 3-5 times stiff and strong
> > compared with steels at similar weight.

>
> The only problem I can see is that the metal will bend while the compsite
> will shatter. I would think this would be especially true on edges, where
> the compsite may chip away.
> --
> Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
> fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer, 1891




L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-01-2004 12:51 AM

Re: anyone has seen skid plate made from composite material?
 
Might as well, Daimler will make the whole damn thing out of
composite materials next year: http://www.----------.com/05wrangler.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

hh wrote:
>
> Happen to see ATV skid plate made from composite materials, the maker claim
> they are stronger and much lighter, which is ture to my knowledge. but I did
> not find anyone making such thing for SUV. anyone has seen one somewhere?
>
> btw, for these who are not familiar, composite materials such as
> carbon/glass fiber reinforced epoxy can be 3-5 times stiff and strong
> compared with steels at similar weight.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-01-2004 12:51 AM

Re: anyone has seen skid plate made from composite material?
 
Might as well, Daimler will make the whole damn thing out of
composite materials next year: http://www.----------.com/05wrangler.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

hh wrote:
>
> Happen to see ATV skid plate made from composite materials, the maker claim
> they are stronger and much lighter, which is ture to my knowledge. but I did
> not find anyone making such thing for SUV. anyone has seen one somewhere?
>
> btw, for these who are not familiar, composite materials such as
> carbon/glass fiber reinforced epoxy can be 3-5 times stiff and strong
> compared with steels at similar weight.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-01-2004 12:51 AM

Re: anyone has seen skid plate made from composite material?
 
Might as well, Daimler will make the whole damn thing out of
composite materials next year: http://www.----------.com/05wrangler.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

hh wrote:
>
> Happen to see ATV skid plate made from composite materials, the maker claim
> they are stronger and much lighter, which is ture to my knowledge. but I did
> not find anyone making such thing for SUV. anyone has seen one somewhere?
>
> btw, for these who are not familiar, composite materials such as
> carbon/glass fiber reinforced epoxy can be 3-5 times stiff and strong
> compared with steels at similar weight.



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