Re: Any Jeep CERTIFIED tech on the list here? Quick question...
 

As it should be, as that is the number of tires on a car. If one of my
salesmen didn't five doughnuts, I wanted to know what's wrong!
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"USA" <USAgency_--NoSPAM--@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Yes, I have retrained the sensors and all four were able to reset fine.
> On BUST, the boot up self test, the EVIC was still reading
> "...BAD/MISSING SENSOR" which tells me it is looking for the extra one
> that is not there. I believe it has been reprogrammed, intentionally or
> not, to look for 5 sensors on a 4 sensor system.



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Re: Any Jeep CERTIFIED tech on the list here? Quick question...
 

As it should be, as that is the number of tires on a car. If one of my
salesmen didn't five doughnuts, I wanted to know what's wrong!
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
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"USA" <USAgency_--NoSPAM--@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Yes, I have retrained the sensors and all four were able to reset fine.
> On BUST, the boot up self test, the EVIC was still reading
> "...BAD/MISSING SENSOR" which tells me it is looking for the extra one
> that is not there. I believe it has been reprogrammed, intentionally or
> not, to look for 5 sensors on a 4 sensor system.



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Re: Any Jeep CERTIFIED tech on the list here? Quick question...
 

> Yes, I have retrained the sensors and all four were able to reset fine.
> On BUST, the boot up self test, the EVIC was still reading
> "...BAD/MISSING SENSOR" which tells me it is looking for the extra one
> that is not there. I believe it has been reprogrammed, intentionally or
> not, to look for 5 sensors on a 4 sensor system.

Does the basic TPM even monitor the spare? This for the the basic setup,
right? The one than only has the dash tire light, not the graphic that
shows the tires with their pressures along side.

Re: Any Jeep CERTIFIED tech on the list here? Quick question...
 

> Yes, I have retrained the sensors and all four were able to reset fine.
> On BUST, the boot up self test, the EVIC was still reading
> "...BAD/MISSING SENSOR" which tells me it is looking for the extra one
> that is not there. I believe it has been reprogrammed, intentionally or
> not, to look for 5 sensors on a 4 sensor system.

Does the basic TPM even monitor the spare? This for the the basic setup,
right? The one than only has the dash tire light, not the graphic that
shows the tires with their pressures along side.

Re: Any Jeep CERTIFIED tech on the list here? Quick question...
 

> Yes, I have retrained the sensors and all four were able to reset fine.
> On BUST, the boot up self test, the EVIC was still reading
> "...BAD/MISSING SENSOR" which tells me it is looking for the extra one
> that is not there. I believe it has been reprogrammed, intentionally or
> not, to look for 5 sensors on a 4 sensor system.

Does the basic TPM even monitor the spare? This for the the basic setup,
right? The one than only has the dash tire light, not the graphic that
shows the tires with their pressures along side.

Re: Any Jeep CERTIFIED tech on the list here? Quick question...
 

sound like you have a bad sensor the hard part without a scantool of high
quality is finding out which one it is. too bad pres.clinton banned freq,
counters you can use one of those to see which one is not sending a signal
to the main receiver

USA wrote:

> Yes, I went to his link he referred from my other post and it was very
> informative; I bookmarked it for reference use. I am just now wondering
> if there is way to reset that back to a 4-tire system without going back
> to the, or a, dealer.
>
> There is a darker, more nefarious, side to this. I have /reasons/ to
> believe the sales guys had the service guys mis-programmed my EVIC just
> to get me back to either try to sell me a car (their customer waiting
> room is in the show room adjacent the fancy parts dept) or to way
> overspend on a extra tire pressure sensor and convert my 4 tire system
> into a 5 tire system unnecessarily.
>
> This dealer is well established locally, I've used them for over a
> decade+ for over 3 JGC's I've owned without flaw. They just have some
> new people there that do not belong there. A few very rotten apples, so
> to speak.
>
> I posted the same message on the rec.auto.manufacturer.chrysler list,
> hoping an honest technician will help out. There are out there!
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Well, I am not Jeep certified, but I am a good reader as well as a
> > bored one so I read some of that link posted by DougW.
> >
> > I found this:
> > Upon special request, the 4-tire system modules can be programmed by
> > the dealer to turn on the 5th spare tire bit.
> >
> > As to if they 'made' the 'mistake', well, the service guy's
> > implication the spare is an issue, implies they screwed up to me...??
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > USA wrote:
> >> Can a 4-tire TPM system be "mistakenly" reprogrammed to a 5-tire TPM
> >> system causing an error message to display on the EVIC reading "TIRE
> >> SENSOR BAD/MISSING"?? If so, can this be reset by the owner and how?
> >>
> >> Thank you

Re: Any Jeep CERTIFIED tech on the list here? Quick question...
 

sound like you have a bad sensor the hard part without a scantool of high
quality is finding out which one it is. too bad pres.clinton banned freq,
counters you can use one of those to see which one is not sending a signal
to the main receiver

USA wrote:

> Yes, I went to his link he referred from my other post and it was very
> informative; I bookmarked it for reference use. I am just now wondering
> if there is way to reset that back to a 4-tire system without going back
> to the, or a, dealer.
>
> There is a darker, more nefarious, side to this. I have /reasons/ to
> believe the sales guys had the service guys mis-programmed my EVIC just
> to get me back to either try to sell me a car (their customer waiting
> room is in the show room adjacent the fancy parts dept) or to way
> overspend on a extra tire pressure sensor and convert my 4 tire system
> into a 5 tire system unnecessarily.
>
> This dealer is well established locally, I've used them for over a
> decade+ for over 3 JGC's I've owned without flaw. They just have some
> new people there that do not belong there. A few very rotten apples, so
> to speak.
>
> I posted the same message on the rec.auto.manufacturer.chrysler list,
> hoping an honest technician will help out. There are out there!
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Well, I am not Jeep certified, but I am a good reader as well as a
> > bored one so I read some of that link posted by DougW.
> >
> > I found this:
> > Upon special request, the 4-tire system modules can be programmed by
> > the dealer to turn on the 5th spare tire bit.
> >
> > As to if they 'made' the 'mistake', well, the service guy's
> > implication the spare is an issue, implies they screwed up to me...??
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > USA wrote:
> >> Can a 4-tire TPM system be "mistakenly" reprogrammed to a 5-tire TPM
> >> system causing an error message to display on the EVIC reading "TIRE
> >> SENSOR BAD/MISSING"?? If so, can this be reset by the owner and how?
> >>
> >> Thank you

Re: Any Jeep CERTIFIED tech on the list here? Quick question...
 

sound like you have a bad sensor the hard part without a scantool of high
quality is finding out which one it is. too bad pres.clinton banned freq,
counters you can use one of those to see which one is not sending a signal
to the main receiver

USA wrote:

> Yes, I went to his link he referred from my other post and it was very
> informative; I bookmarked it for reference use. I am just now wondering
> if there is way to reset that back to a 4-tire system without going back
> to the, or a, dealer.
>
> There is a darker, more nefarious, side to this. I have /reasons/ to
> believe the sales guys had the service guys mis-programmed my EVIC just
> to get me back to either try to sell me a car (their customer waiting
> room is in the show room adjacent the fancy parts dept) or to way
> overspend on a extra tire pressure sensor and convert my 4 tire system
> into a 5 tire system unnecessarily.
>
> This dealer is well established locally, I've used them for over a
> decade+ for over 3 JGC's I've owned without flaw. They just have some
> new people there that do not belong there. A few very rotten apples, so
> to speak.
>
> I posted the same message on the rec.auto.manufacturer.chrysler list,
> hoping an honest technician will help out. There are out there!
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Well, I am not Jeep certified, but I am a good reader as well as a
> > bored one so I read some of that link posted by DougW.
> >
> > I found this:
> > Upon special request, the 4-tire system modules can be programmed by
> > the dealer to turn on the 5th spare tire bit.
> >
> > As to if they 'made' the 'mistake', well, the service guy's
> > implication the spare is an issue, implies they screwed up to me...??
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > USA wrote:
> >> Can a 4-tire TPM system be "mistakenly" reprogrammed to a 5-tire TPM
> >> system causing an error message to display on the EVIC reading "TIRE
> >> SENSOR BAD/MISSING"?? If so, can this be reset by the owner and how?
> >>
> >> Thank you

Re: Any Jeep CERTIFIED tech on the list here? Quick question...
 

sound like you have a bad sensor the hard part without a scantool of high
quality is finding out which one it is. too bad pres.clinton banned freq,
counters you can use one of those to see which one is not sending a signal
to the main receiver

USA wrote:

> Yes, I went to his link he referred from my other post and it was very
> informative; I bookmarked it for reference use. I am just now wondering
> if there is way to reset that back to a 4-tire system without going back
> to the, or a, dealer.
>
> There is a darker, more nefarious, side to this. I have /reasons/ to
> believe the sales guys had the service guys mis-programmed my EVIC just
> to get me back to either try to sell me a car (their customer waiting
> room is in the show room adjacent the fancy parts dept) or to way
> overspend on a extra tire pressure sensor and convert my 4 tire system
> into a 5 tire system unnecessarily.
>
> This dealer is well established locally, I've used them for over a
> decade+ for over 3 JGC's I've owned without flaw. They just have some
> new people there that do not belong there. A few very rotten apples, so
> to speak.
>
> I posted the same message on the rec.auto.manufacturer.chrysler list,
> hoping an honest technician will help out. There are out there!
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Well, I am not Jeep certified, but I am a good reader as well as a
> > bored one so I read some of that link posted by DougW.
> >
> > I found this:
> > Upon special request, the 4-tire system modules can be programmed by
> > the dealer to turn on the 5th spare tire bit.
> >
> > As to if they 'made' the 'mistake', well, the service guy's
> > implication the spare is an issue, implies they screwed up to me...??
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > USA wrote:
> >> Can a 4-tire TPM system be "mistakenly" reprogrammed to a 5-tire TPM
> >> system causing an error message to display on the EVIC reading "TIRE
> >> SENSOR BAD/MISSING"?? If so, can this be reset by the owner and how?
> >>
> >> Thank you