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Matt Macchiarolo 07-03-2007 07:56 AM

Re: Another Ford 8.8 question...wrong again Snoman
 
There is a bracketry kit available from M.O.R.E., maybe that's what you were
thinking about? All the bracketry (spring perches, track bar, shock mounts)
has to be relocated for a Jeep application. Snoman was wrong again, go
figure...in a YJ the spring perches have to be moved outboard 3/4" on both
sides from the stock Explorer positions, and the shock mounts have to be
repositioned. Hardly "basically a bolt-in" with all that cutting and
welding.

Here's some good info on the conversion into a YJ:
http://www.jedi.com/obiwan/jeep/ford88.html


"RSMuddog via CarKB.com" <u34723@uwe> wrote in message
news:749ac7564a94f@uwe...
> Carl, you are missing the question. IT IS NOT about the 8.8 axles
> strengths,
> or faults. Or about wheel spacers. IT IS about what IS the KIT. Any
> moron
> can figure out the other things, wheel spacers and all. Go back, re-read
> my
> ORIGINAL post, and if you don't know, fine. I was just hoping someone had
> read the same article I did and could refresh my memory. If not, my loss.
> Thanks for trying though. Its just that it seems that were getting a
> little
> off topic. it is about the KIT.
>
> Carl S wrote:
>>I haven't heard about such a kit. If it was that big of a deal, you could
>>just use wheel spacers, though I'd rather not use them personally.
>>
>>The 8.8 is a good strong axle. It's stregnth verus a D44 is debateable,
>>but
>>it is still a C-clip axle, where the D44 is not. This really isn't an
>>issue
>>given the 8.8's stregnth, and if you planned on running anything larger
>>than
>>37's locked, you'll be shopping for something more than half ton axles
>>anyway...
>>
>>Carl
>>
>>>>Ok guys, here goes.
>>>>I remember, and can easily find all the info needed for the wonderful
>>>>8.8

>>[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>>> -----------------
>>> TheSnoMan.com

>
> --
> Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
>




Matt Macchiarolo 07-03-2007 07:56 AM

Re: Another Ford 8.8 question...wrong again Snoman
 
There is a bracketry kit available from M.O.R.E., maybe that's what you were
thinking about? All the bracketry (spring perches, track bar, shock mounts)
has to be relocated for a Jeep application. Snoman was wrong again, go
figure...in a YJ the spring perches have to be moved outboard 3/4" on both
sides from the stock Explorer positions, and the shock mounts have to be
repositioned. Hardly "basically a bolt-in" with all that cutting and
welding.

Here's some good info on the conversion into a YJ:
http://www.jedi.com/obiwan/jeep/ford88.html


"RSMuddog via CarKB.com" <u34723@uwe> wrote in message
news:749ac7564a94f@uwe...
> Carl, you are missing the question. IT IS NOT about the 8.8 axles
> strengths,
> or faults. Or about wheel spacers. IT IS about what IS the KIT. Any
> moron
> can figure out the other things, wheel spacers and all. Go back, re-read
> my
> ORIGINAL post, and if you don't know, fine. I was just hoping someone had
> read the same article I did and could refresh my memory. If not, my loss.
> Thanks for trying though. Its just that it seems that were getting a
> little
> off topic. it is about the KIT.
>
> Carl S wrote:
>>I haven't heard about such a kit. If it was that big of a deal, you could
>>just use wheel spacers, though I'd rather not use them personally.
>>
>>The 8.8 is a good strong axle. It's stregnth verus a D44 is debateable,
>>but
>>it is still a C-clip axle, where the D44 is not. This really isn't an
>>issue
>>given the 8.8's stregnth, and if you planned on running anything larger
>>than
>>37's locked, you'll be shopping for something more than half ton axles
>>anyway...
>>
>>Carl
>>
>>>>Ok guys, here goes.
>>>>I remember, and can easily find all the info needed for the wonderful
>>>>8.8

>>[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>>> -----------------
>>> TheSnoMan.com

>
> --
> Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
>




Matt Macchiarolo 07-03-2007 07:56 AM

Re: Another Ford 8.8 question...wrong again Snoman
 
There is a bracketry kit available from M.O.R.E., maybe that's what you were
thinking about? All the bracketry (spring perches, track bar, shock mounts)
has to be relocated for a Jeep application. Snoman was wrong again, go
figure...in a YJ the spring perches have to be moved outboard 3/4" on both
sides from the stock Explorer positions, and the shock mounts have to be
repositioned. Hardly "basically a bolt-in" with all that cutting and
welding.

Here's some good info on the conversion into a YJ:
http://www.jedi.com/obiwan/jeep/ford88.html


"RSMuddog via CarKB.com" <u34723@uwe> wrote in message
news:749ac7564a94f@uwe...
> Carl, you are missing the question. IT IS NOT about the 8.8 axles
> strengths,
> or faults. Or about wheel spacers. IT IS about what IS the KIT. Any
> moron
> can figure out the other things, wheel spacers and all. Go back, re-read
> my
> ORIGINAL post, and if you don't know, fine. I was just hoping someone had
> read the same article I did and could refresh my memory. If not, my loss.
> Thanks for trying though. Its just that it seems that were getting a
> little
> off topic. it is about the KIT.
>
> Carl S wrote:
>>I haven't heard about such a kit. If it was that big of a deal, you could
>>just use wheel spacers, though I'd rather not use them personally.
>>
>>The 8.8 is a good strong axle. It's stregnth verus a D44 is debateable,
>>but
>>it is still a C-clip axle, where the D44 is not. This really isn't an
>>issue
>>given the 8.8's stregnth, and if you planned on running anything larger
>>than
>>37's locked, you'll be shopping for something more than half ton axles
>>anyway...
>>
>>Carl
>>
>>>>Ok guys, here goes.
>>>>I remember, and can easily find all the info needed for the wonderful
>>>>8.8

>>[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>>> -----------------
>>> TheSnoMan.com

>
> --
> Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
>




T. Greening 07-03-2007 11:59 AM

Re: Another Ford 8.8 question
 
RSMuddog via CarKB.com wrote:
> yes yes, I totally understand all of that, and that is why I am performing
> this swap. But, I can't remember, is the 8.8 a 5 on 4 1/2? Its just the
> fact that there was a kit, and installing it actually added length, which
> made it the same as the factory jeep. Not that 1/2" is anything to cry about,
> just trying to remember what the dang kit was all about.
>
>
> SnoMan wrote:
>>> Ok guys, here goes.
>>> I remember, and can easily find all the info needed for the wonderful 8.8

>> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>>> remember what it is....
>>> Anyone? HELP!!!

>> I have never heard of the kit but there is no bolt pattern issues that
>> I am aware of. Fors Explore axles from about 95 to 02 are basically a
>> bolt in in a YJ. It is a fraction narrower but this it not really a
>> issue with wide offset wheels and tires. The 8.8 is one of the better
>> swaps for this because it is a stronger axle than a D44 that many try
>> to use sometimes. It is pretty solid up to about 38's or so on a Jeep
>> stock.
>> -----------------
>> TheSnoMan.com

>



I think it was an installation article in one of the jeep rags. At
least I seem to remember something along the lines of what you describe.
Try the online sites of JP magazine and 4-wheel and offroad magazine.
If I saw it it was probably in one of those.

T. Greening 07-03-2007 11:59 AM

Re: Another Ford 8.8 question
 
RSMuddog via CarKB.com wrote:
> yes yes, I totally understand all of that, and that is why I am performing
> this swap. But, I can't remember, is the 8.8 a 5 on 4 1/2? Its just the
> fact that there was a kit, and installing it actually added length, which
> made it the same as the factory jeep. Not that 1/2" is anything to cry about,
> just trying to remember what the dang kit was all about.
>
>
> SnoMan wrote:
>>> Ok guys, here goes.
>>> I remember, and can easily find all the info needed for the wonderful 8.8

>> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>>> remember what it is....
>>> Anyone? HELP!!!

>> I have never heard of the kit but there is no bolt pattern issues that
>> I am aware of. Fors Explore axles from about 95 to 02 are basically a
>> bolt in in a YJ. It is a fraction narrower but this it not really a
>> issue with wide offset wheels and tires. The 8.8 is one of the better
>> swaps for this because it is a stronger axle than a D44 that many try
>> to use sometimes. It is pretty solid up to about 38's or so on a Jeep
>> stock.
>> -----------------
>> TheSnoMan.com

>



I think it was an installation article in one of the jeep rags. At
least I seem to remember something along the lines of what you describe.
Try the online sites of JP magazine and 4-wheel and offroad magazine.
If I saw it it was probably in one of those.

T. Greening 07-03-2007 11:59 AM

Re: Another Ford 8.8 question
 
RSMuddog via CarKB.com wrote:
> yes yes, I totally understand all of that, and that is why I am performing
> this swap. But, I can't remember, is the 8.8 a 5 on 4 1/2? Its just the
> fact that there was a kit, and installing it actually added length, which
> made it the same as the factory jeep. Not that 1/2" is anything to cry about,
> just trying to remember what the dang kit was all about.
>
>
> SnoMan wrote:
>>> Ok guys, here goes.
>>> I remember, and can easily find all the info needed for the wonderful 8.8

>> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>>> remember what it is....
>>> Anyone? HELP!!!

>> I have never heard of the kit but there is no bolt pattern issues that
>> I am aware of. Fors Explore axles from about 95 to 02 are basically a
>> bolt in in a YJ. It is a fraction narrower but this it not really a
>> issue with wide offset wheels and tires. The 8.8 is one of the better
>> swaps for this because it is a stronger axle than a D44 that many try
>> to use sometimes. It is pretty solid up to about 38's or so on a Jeep
>> stock.
>> -----------------
>> TheSnoMan.com

>



I think it was an installation article in one of the jeep rags. At
least I seem to remember something along the lines of what you describe.
Try the online sites of JP magazine and 4-wheel and offroad magazine.
If I saw it it was probably in one of those.

T. Greening 07-03-2007 11:59 AM

Re: Another Ford 8.8 question
 
RSMuddog via CarKB.com wrote:
> yes yes, I totally understand all of that, and that is why I am performing
> this swap. But, I can't remember, is the 8.8 a 5 on 4 1/2? Its just the
> fact that there was a kit, and installing it actually added length, which
> made it the same as the factory jeep. Not that 1/2" is anything to cry about,
> just trying to remember what the dang kit was all about.
>
>
> SnoMan wrote:
>>> Ok guys, here goes.
>>> I remember, and can easily find all the info needed for the wonderful 8.8

>> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>>> remember what it is....
>>> Anyone? HELP!!!

>> I have never heard of the kit but there is no bolt pattern issues that
>> I am aware of. Fors Explore axles from about 95 to 02 are basically a
>> bolt in in a YJ. It is a fraction narrower but this it not really a
>> issue with wide offset wheels and tires. The 8.8 is one of the better
>> swaps for this because it is a stronger axle than a D44 that many try
>> to use sometimes. It is pretty solid up to about 38's or so on a Jeep
>> stock.
>> -----------------
>> TheSnoMan.com

>



I think it was an installation article in one of the jeep rags. At
least I seem to remember something along the lines of what you describe.
Try the online sites of JP magazine and 4-wheel and offroad magazine.
If I saw it it was probably in one of those.

T. Greening 07-03-2007 12:04 PM

Re: Another Ford 8.8 question
 
L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> http://www.lethalperformance.com/pag...spacers-2.html
> Would you let me paid for your sort term life insurance policy, and of
> course, be your beneficiary?
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> "RSMuddog via CarKB.com" <u34723@uwe> wrote in message
> news:7498acc3141a3@uwe...
>> Ok guys, here goes.
>> I remember, and can easily find all the info needed for the wonderful 8.8
>> rearend swap.
>> But....
>> I remember a article, and it could possibly be from a magazine, but there

> was
>> some type of adapter kit, that added about a half inch width to each side

> of
>> the axle setup. Problem is, I can't remember what in the heck this was

> all
>> about. Whether it was changing the bolt pattern or what? A company

> actually
>> offered the kit, and its been driving me nuttier than bill that I can't
>> remember what it is....
>> Anyone? HELP!!!
>>
>> PS, Sorry Bill, was only meant in fun!

>
>
>



Just like my lack of a steering stabilizer (going on 7 years now) is
going to put me, my family, the surrounding neighborhood, and most of
the continental United States in the grave.

Sometimes you are such a buffoon you defy description. It's no wonder
this group is filling with trolls hounding you and you are 10 times
worse than they are with your ridiculous C&P.

The cure is indeed worse than the disease.


T. Greening 07-03-2007 12:04 PM

Re: Another Ford 8.8 question
 
L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> http://www.lethalperformance.com/pag...spacers-2.html
> Would you let me paid for your sort term life insurance policy, and of
> course, be your beneficiary?
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> "RSMuddog via CarKB.com" <u34723@uwe> wrote in message
> news:7498acc3141a3@uwe...
>> Ok guys, here goes.
>> I remember, and can easily find all the info needed for the wonderful 8.8
>> rearend swap.
>> But....
>> I remember a article, and it could possibly be from a magazine, but there

> was
>> some type of adapter kit, that added about a half inch width to each side

> of
>> the axle setup. Problem is, I can't remember what in the heck this was

> all
>> about. Whether it was changing the bolt pattern or what? A company

> actually
>> offered the kit, and its been driving me nuttier than bill that I can't
>> remember what it is....
>> Anyone? HELP!!!
>>
>> PS, Sorry Bill, was only meant in fun!

>
>
>



Just like my lack of a steering stabilizer (going on 7 years now) is
going to put me, my family, the surrounding neighborhood, and most of
the continental United States in the grave.

Sometimes you are such a buffoon you defy description. It's no wonder
this group is filling with trolls hounding you and you are 10 times
worse than they are with your ridiculous C&P.

The cure is indeed worse than the disease.


T. Greening 07-03-2007 12:04 PM

Re: Another Ford 8.8 question
 
L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> http://www.lethalperformance.com/pag...spacers-2.html
> Would you let me paid for your sort term life insurance policy, and of
> course, be your beneficiary?
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> "RSMuddog via CarKB.com" <u34723@uwe> wrote in message
> news:7498acc3141a3@uwe...
>> Ok guys, here goes.
>> I remember, and can easily find all the info needed for the wonderful 8.8
>> rearend swap.
>> But....
>> I remember a article, and it could possibly be from a magazine, but there

> was
>> some type of adapter kit, that added about a half inch width to each side

> of
>> the axle setup. Problem is, I can't remember what in the heck this was

> all
>> about. Whether it was changing the bolt pattern or what? A company

> actually
>> offered the kit, and its been driving me nuttier than bill that I can't
>> remember what it is....
>> Anyone? HELP!!!
>>
>> PS, Sorry Bill, was only meant in fun!

>
>
>



Just like my lack of a steering stabilizer (going on 7 years now) is
going to put me, my family, the surrounding neighborhood, and most of
the continental United States in the grave.

Sometimes you are such a buffoon you defy description. It's no wonder
this group is filling with trolls hounding you and you are 10 times
worse than they are with your ridiculous C&P.

The cure is indeed worse than the disease.



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