Re: amc 20 dana 44 replacement
 

If the axle housing is a different length, there is also a potential problem
with the drive shaft length. The best way to find this out, if the old axle
is still available, is to measure both axles, from the center of the axle
tube to the pinion yoke.

A CV drive shaft should not need a transfer case lowering kit, but it would
require use of tapered spring shims to point the pinion shaft at the
transfer case output.

Earle

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4613c0a8$0$4967$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> Before you go crazy replacing parts a couple things come to mind.
>
> I don't know, likely others here do, but is the Dana 44 housing a
> different length than the AMC 20?
>
> When you set a new differential in, it is a bit tricky getting the
> angles correct so you don't have vibrations.
>
> I will try to explain. The U-joints on the driveshaft ends have to be
> parallel with each other or it will vibrate itself apart.
>
> So this means if the plane through the u-joint at the transfer case is
> say this way: | , then the one at the differential has to be the same
> or: | .
>
> If the one at the transfer case is tilted down like / , then the other
> ar the diff has to be tilted up to match or / .
>
> So the driveshaft looks like /==========/ or |==========|, Not
> /==========| which will vibrate like crazy.
>
> This angle can be adjusted at the diff by using shims on the spring
> perches or a little can be adjusted by lowering the t-case.
>
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Deniz wrote:
> > Hi guys,
> > I'm from Turkey and i have 79 cj5. Recently i have replaced my amc 20
> > with a dana 44. But some vibrations occured both while accelerating
> > and decelerating probably because of the rear driveshaft.It's a bit
> > difficult to find parts for cjs in Turkey, i need to have some parts
> > made customly. Do i need a longer driveshaft as it looks slightly
> > longer now the it used to be or should i try to have a cv type drive
> > shaft custom made as i'm thinking of buying a 2 inch lift kit in the
> > near future? With a cv drive shaft do i need transfer case lowering
> > kit for 2 inch lift?
> > Thank you all in advance,
> > Deniz
> >

Re: amc 20 dana 44 replacement
 

If the axle housing is a different length, there is also a potential problem
with the drive shaft length. The best way to find this out, if the old axle
is still available, is to measure both axles, from the center of the axle
tube to the pinion yoke.

A CV drive shaft should not need a transfer case lowering kit, but it would
require use of tapered spring shims to point the pinion shaft at the
transfer case output.

Earle

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4613c0a8$0$4967$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> Before you go crazy replacing parts a couple things come to mind.
>
> I don't know, likely others here do, but is the Dana 44 housing a
> different length than the AMC 20?
>
> When you set a new differential in, it is a bit tricky getting the
> angles correct so you don't have vibrations.
>
> I will try to explain. The U-joints on the driveshaft ends have to be
> parallel with each other or it will vibrate itself apart.
>
> So this means if the plane through the u-joint at the transfer case is
> say this way: | , then the one at the differential has to be the same
> or: | .
>
> If the one at the transfer case is tilted down like / , then the other
> ar the diff has to be tilted up to match or / .
>
> So the driveshaft looks like /==========/ or |==========|, Not
> /==========| which will vibrate like crazy.
>
> This angle can be adjusted at the diff by using shims on the spring
> perches or a little can be adjusted by lowering the t-case.
>
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Deniz wrote:
> > Hi guys,
> > I'm from Turkey and i have 79 cj5. Recently i have replaced my amc 20
> > with a dana 44. But some vibrations occured both while accelerating
> > and decelerating probably because of the rear driveshaft.It's a bit
> > difficult to find parts for cjs in Turkey, i need to have some parts
> > made customly. Do i need a longer driveshaft as it looks slightly
> > longer now the it used to be or should i try to have a cv type drive
> > shaft custom made as i'm thinking of buying a 2 inch lift kit in the
> > near future? With a cv drive shaft do i need transfer case lowering
> > kit for 2 inch lift?
> > Thank you all in advance,
> > Deniz
> >

Re: amc 20 dana 44 replacement
 

If the axle housing is a different length, there is also a potential problem
with the drive shaft length. The best way to find this out, if the old axle
is still available, is to measure both axles, from the center of the axle
tube to the pinion yoke.

A CV drive shaft should not need a transfer case lowering kit, but it would
require use of tapered spring shims to point the pinion shaft at the
transfer case output.

Earle

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4613c0a8$0$4967$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> Before you go crazy replacing parts a couple things come to mind.
>
> I don't know, likely others here do, but is the Dana 44 housing a
> different length than the AMC 20?
>
> When you set a new differential in, it is a bit tricky getting the
> angles correct so you don't have vibrations.
>
> I will try to explain. The U-joints on the driveshaft ends have to be
> parallel with each other or it will vibrate itself apart.
>
> So this means if the plane through the u-joint at the transfer case is
> say this way: | , then the one at the differential has to be the same
> or: | .
>
> If the one at the transfer case is tilted down like / , then the other
> ar the diff has to be tilted up to match or / .
>
> So the driveshaft looks like /==========/ or |==========|, Not
> /==========| which will vibrate like crazy.
>
> This angle can be adjusted at the diff by using shims on the spring
> perches or a little can be adjusted by lowering the t-case.
>
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Deniz wrote:
> > Hi guys,
> > I'm from Turkey and i have 79 cj5. Recently i have replaced my amc 20
> > with a dana 44. But some vibrations occured both while accelerating
> > and decelerating probably because of the rear driveshaft.It's a bit
> > difficult to find parts for cjs in Turkey, i need to have some parts
> > made customly. Do i need a longer driveshaft as it looks slightly
> > longer now the it used to be or should i try to have a cv type drive
> > shaft custom made as i'm thinking of buying a 2 inch lift kit in the
> > near future? With a cv drive shaft do i need transfer case lowering
> > kit for 2 inch lift?
> > Thank you all in advance,
> > Deniz
> >

Re: amc 20 dana 44 replacement
 

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"Deniz" <dhasirci@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi guys,
> I'm from Turkey and i have 79 cj5. Recently i have replaced my amc 20
> with a dana 44. But some vibrations occured both while accelerating
> and decelerating probably because of the rear driveshaft.It's a bit
> difficult to find parts for cjs in Turkey, i need to have some parts
> made customly. Do i need a longer driveshaft as it looks slightly
> longer now the it used to be or should i try to have a cv type drive
> shaft custom made as i'm thinking of buying a 2 inch lift kit in the
> near future? With a cv drive shaft do i need transfer case lowering
> kit for 2 inch lift?
> Thank you all in advance,
> Deniz
>



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Re: amc 20 dana 44 replacement
 

http://www.4xshaft.com/driveline101.html
http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billav...aft/index.html
http://www.4xshaft.com/index.html
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
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"Deniz" <dhasirci@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1175674679.158682.313630@d57g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
> Hi guys,
> I'm from Turkey and i have 79 cj5. Recently i have replaced my amc 20
> with a dana 44. But some vibrations occured both while accelerating
> and decelerating probably because of the rear driveshaft.It's a bit
> difficult to find parts for cjs in Turkey, i need to have some parts
> made customly. Do i need a longer driveshaft as it looks slightly
> longer now the it used to be or should i try to have a cv type drive
> shaft custom made as i'm thinking of buying a 2 inch lift kit in the
> near future? With a cv drive shaft do i need transfer case lowering
> kit for 2 inch lift?
> Thank you all in advance,
> Deniz
>



--
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Re: amc 20 dana 44 replacement
 

http://www.4xshaft.com/driveline101.html
http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billav...aft/index.html
http://www.4xshaft.com/index.html
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"Deniz" <dhasirci@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1175674679.158682.313630@d57g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
> Hi guys,
> I'm from Turkey and i have 79 cj5. Recently i have replaced my amc 20
> with a dana 44. But some vibrations occured both while accelerating
> and decelerating probably because of the rear driveshaft.It's a bit
> difficult to find parts for cjs in Turkey, i need to have some parts
> made customly. Do i need a longer driveshaft as it looks slightly
> longer now the it used to be or should i try to have a cv type drive
> shaft custom made as i'm thinking of buying a 2 inch lift kit in the
> near future? With a cv drive shaft do i need transfer case lowering
> kit for 2 inch lift?
> Thank you all in advance,
> Deniz
>



--
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Re: amc 20 dana 44 replacement
 

On 5 Nisan, 06:53, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" <billhug...@cox.net>
wrote:
> http://www.4xshaft.com/driveline101....com/index.html
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:LW------...@aol.comhttp://www.----------.com/
>
> "Deniz" <dhasi...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1175674679.158682.313630@d57g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
>
> > Hi guys,
> > I'm from Turkey and i have 79 cj5. Recently i have replaced my amc 20
> > with a dana 44. But some vibrations occured both while accelerating
> > and decelerating probably because of the rear driveshaft.It's a bit
> > difficult to find parts for cjs in Turkey, i need to have some parts
> > made customly. Do i need a longer driveshaft as it looks slightly
> > longer now the it used to be or should i try to have a cv type drive
> > shaft custom made as i'm thinking of buying a 2 inch lift kit in the
> > near future? With a cv drive shaft do i need transfer case lowering
> > kit for 2 inch lift?
> > Thank you all in advance,
> > Deniz
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com

First of all thank you all guys,
I'll first check the angles, but i was quite carefull installing the
shaft. The d44 i bought was a second hand one and it was in a very
good condition, unfortunately without a drive shaft. To be honest i
hadn't measured the housings. But by the look of the mud marks and
clean parts of the shaft i can tell that it's standing a wee bit
longer. I'll try to find an old jeep on the road and stop it and get
under to measure the shaft unfortunately there arent't many of those.
The cv shaft option is gonna have to wait till i get the lift kit as i
understand that i need to change the angles of the spring perches and
i don't want to take the the axle off again, i wanna drive it for a
while as i'd been working on it for quite some time, i missed the
little beasty. I'll replace the u joints as well once i measure a D44
drive shaft. The u joints are a couple of years old but i hadn't
maintained them regularly.
Thank you all again.

Deniz

Re: amc 20 dana 44 replacement
 

On 5 Nisan, 06:53, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" <billhug...@cox.net>
wrote:
> http://www.4xshaft.com/driveline101....com/index.html
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:LW------...@aol.comhttp://www.----------.com/
>
> "Deniz" <dhasi...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1175674679.158682.313630@d57g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
>
> > Hi guys,
> > I'm from Turkey and i have 79 cj5. Recently i have replaced my amc 20
> > with a dana 44. But some vibrations occured both while accelerating
> > and decelerating probably because of the rear driveshaft.It's a bit
> > difficult to find parts for cjs in Turkey, i need to have some parts
> > made customly. Do i need a longer driveshaft as it looks slightly
> > longer now the it used to be or should i try to have a cv type drive
> > shaft custom made as i'm thinking of buying a 2 inch lift kit in the
> > near future? With a cv drive shaft do i need transfer case lowering
> > kit for 2 inch lift?
> > Thank you all in advance,
> > Deniz
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com

First of all thank you all guys,
I'll first check the angles, but i was quite carefull installing the
shaft. The d44 i bought was a second hand one and it was in a very
good condition, unfortunately without a drive shaft. To be honest i
hadn't measured the housings. But by the look of the mud marks and
clean parts of the shaft i can tell that it's standing a wee bit
longer. I'll try to find an old jeep on the road and stop it and get
under to measure the shaft unfortunately there arent't many of those.
The cv shaft option is gonna have to wait till i get the lift kit as i
understand that i need to change the angles of the spring perches and
i don't want to take the the axle off again, i wanna drive it for a
while as i'd been working on it for quite some time, i missed the
little beasty. I'll replace the u joints as well once i measure a D44
drive shaft. The u joints are a couple of years old but i hadn't
maintained them regularly.
Thank you all again.

Deniz

Re: amc 20 dana 44 replacement
 

On 5 Nisan, 06:53, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" <billhug...@cox.net>
wrote:
> http://www.4xshaft.com/driveline101....com/index.html
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:LW------...@aol.comhttp://www.----------.com/
>
> "Deniz" <dhasi...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1175674679.158682.313630@d57g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
>
> > Hi guys,
> > I'm from Turkey and i have 79 cj5. Recently i have replaced my amc 20
> > with a dana 44. But some vibrations occured both while accelerating
> > and decelerating probably because of the rear driveshaft.It's a bit
> > difficult to find parts for cjs in Turkey, i need to have some parts
> > made customly. Do i need a longer driveshaft as it looks slightly
> > longer now the it used to be or should i try to have a cv type drive
> > shaft custom made as i'm thinking of buying a 2 inch lift kit in the
> > near future? With a cv drive shaft do i need transfer case lowering
> > kit for 2 inch lift?
> > Thank you all in advance,
> > Deniz
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com

First of all thank you all guys,
I'll first check the angles, but i was quite carefull installing the
shaft. The d44 i bought was a second hand one and it was in a very
good condition, unfortunately without a drive shaft. To be honest i
hadn't measured the housings. But by the look of the mud marks and
clean parts of the shaft i can tell that it's standing a wee bit
longer. I'll try to find an old jeep on the road and stop it and get
under to measure the shaft unfortunately there arent't many of those.
The cv shaft option is gonna have to wait till i get the lift kit as i
understand that i need to change the angles of the spring perches and
i don't want to take the the axle off again, i wanna drive it for a
while as i'd been working on it for quite some time, i missed the
little beasty. I'll replace the u joints as well once i measure a D44
drive shaft. The u joints are a couple of years old but i hadn't
maintained them regularly.
Thank you all again.

Deniz

Re: amc 20 dana 44 replacement
 

I'll go out and measure my AMC 20 when it gets light out, will post in an
hour or so.

"Deniz" <dhasirci@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1175755955.763919.258190@p77g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com...
> On 5 Nisan, 06:53, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" <billhug...@cox.net>
> wrote:
>>
>> http://www.4xshaft.com/driveline101....com/index.html
>> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
>> mailto:LW------...@aol.comhttp://www.----------.com/
>>
>> "Deniz" <dhasi...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1175674679.158682.313630@d57g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>> > Hi guys,
>> > I'm from Turkey and i have 79 cj5. Recently i have replaced my amc 20
>> > with a dana 44. But some vibrations occured both while accelerating
>> > and decelerating probably because of the rear driveshaft.It's a bit
>> > difficult to find parts for cjs in Turkey, i need to have some parts
>> > made customly. Do i need a longer driveshaft as it looks slightly
>> > longer now the it used to be or should i try to have a cv type drive
>> > shaft custom made as i'm thinking of buying a 2 inch lift kit in the
>> > near future? With a cv drive shaft do i need transfer case lowering
>> > kit for 2 inch lift?
>> > Thank you all in advance,
>> > Deniz
>>
>> --
>> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com
>
> First of all thank you all guys,
> I'll first check the angles, but i was quite carefull installing the
> shaft. The d44 i bought was a second hand one and it was in a very
> good condition, unfortunately without a drive shaft. To be honest i
> hadn't measured the housings. But by the look of the mud marks and
> clean parts of the shaft i can tell that it's standing a wee bit
> longer. I'll try to find an old jeep on the road and stop it and get
> under to measure the shaft unfortunately there arent't many of those.
> The cv shaft option is gonna have to wait till i get the lift kit as i
> understand that i need to change the angles of the spring perches and
> i don't want to take the the axle off again, i wanna drive it for a
> while as i'd been working on it for quite some time, i missed the
> little beasty. I'll replace the u joints as well once i measure a D44
> drive shaft. The u joints are a couple of years old but i hadn't
> maintained them regularly.
> Thank you all again.
>
> Deniz
>