Re: Aluminum Radiator
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 19:46:01 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote: > Lon Stowell wrote: > > > > Approximately 9/11/03 12:08, Mike Romain uttered for posterity: > > > > > Aluminum conducts heat slightly better than brass. The big difference > > > is in the eye of the buyer though in my mind.... > > > ;-) > > > > I'll be darned, you're right, woulda thought brass would be higher > > in thermal conductivity. However radiators are usually copper, > > which is almost as good as silver, not brass. > > > > Diamond 1.28 > > Silver 0.968 > > Copper 0.928 > > Aluminum 0.520 > > Brass 0.338 > > > > Obviously, what you need for your winch/jeep is a diamond radiator. > > LOL! > > So that is the second time you have mentioned copper rads???!!! > > I don't believe I have ever seen a copper rad. All the ones I have > repaired were brass or maybe bronze (brass and copper) but I sure can't > think of any copper colored ones. I used to see a lot of brass caps with brass tubes and copper fins but I don't think I've ever seen copper tubes, much less end caps and I haven't paid much attention lately but the las brass/brass radiator I repaired had brazed foil to the tubes, -- Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net> |
Re: Aluminum Radiator
Will Honea wrote:
> > On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 19:46:01 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> > wrote: > > > Lon Stowell wrote: > > > > > > Approximately 9/11/03 12:08, Mike Romain uttered for posterity: > > > > > > > Aluminum conducts heat slightly better than brass. The big difference > > > > is in the eye of the buyer though in my mind.... > > > > ;-) > > > > > > I'll be darned, you're right, woulda thought brass would be higher > > > in thermal conductivity. However radiators are usually copper, > > > which is almost as good as silver, not brass. > > > > > > Diamond 1.28 > > > Silver 0.968 > > > Copper 0.928 > > > Aluminum 0.520 > > > Brass 0.338 > > > > > > Obviously, what you need for your winch/jeep is a diamond radiator. > > > > LOL! > > > > So that is the second time you have mentioned copper rads???!!! > > > > I don't believe I have ever seen a copper rad. All the ones I have > > repaired were brass or maybe bronze (brass and copper) but I sure can't > > think of any copper colored ones. > > I used to see a lot of brass caps with brass tubes and copper fins but > I don't think I've ever seen copper tubes, much less end caps and I > haven't paid much attention lately but the las brass/brass radiator I > repaired had brazed foil to the tubes, > > -- For sure I have seen copper fins, but they radiate better than aluminum, so changing them is a down grade. I was thinking the tank and tubes when I made my comment. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's |
Re: Aluminum Radiator
Will Honea wrote:
> > On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 19:46:01 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> > wrote: > > > Lon Stowell wrote: > > > > > > Approximately 9/11/03 12:08, Mike Romain uttered for posterity: > > > > > > > Aluminum conducts heat slightly better than brass. The big difference > > > > is in the eye of the buyer though in my mind.... > > > > ;-) > > > > > > I'll be darned, you're right, woulda thought brass would be higher > > > in thermal conductivity. However radiators are usually copper, > > > which is almost as good as silver, not brass. > > > > > > Diamond 1.28 > > > Silver 0.968 > > > Copper 0.928 > > > Aluminum 0.520 > > > Brass 0.338 > > > > > > Obviously, what you need for your winch/jeep is a diamond radiator. > > > > LOL! > > > > So that is the second time you have mentioned copper rads???!!! > > > > I don't believe I have ever seen a copper rad. All the ones I have > > repaired were brass or maybe bronze (brass and copper) but I sure can't > > think of any copper colored ones. > > I used to see a lot of brass caps with brass tubes and copper fins but > I don't think I've ever seen copper tubes, much less end caps and I > haven't paid much attention lately but the las brass/brass radiator I > repaired had brazed foil to the tubes, > > -- For sure I have seen copper fins, but they radiate better than aluminum, so changing them is a down grade. I was thinking the tank and tubes when I made my comment. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's |
Re: Aluminum Radiator
Diamond conducts heat well??? How about that! Well, it *is* carbon. I
just never would have thought of diamond as a good heat conductor. Talk about an expensive radiator! "Lon Stowell" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message news:q548b.417977$o%2.189777@sccrnsc02... > Approximately 9/11/03 12:08, Mike Romain uttered for posterity: > > > Aluminum conducts heat slightly better than brass. The big difference > > is in the eye of the buyer though in my mind.... > > ;-) > > I'll be darned, you're right, woulda thought brass would be higher > in thermal conductivity. However radiators are usually copper, > which is almost as good as silver, not brass. > > Diamond 1.28 > Silver 0.968 > Copper 0.928 > Aluminum 0.520 > Brass 0.338 > > Obviously, what you need for your winch/jeep is a diamond radiator. > |
Re: Aluminum Radiator
Diamond conducts heat well??? How about that! Well, it *is* carbon. I
just never would have thought of diamond as a good heat conductor. Talk about an expensive radiator! "Lon Stowell" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message news:q548b.417977$o%2.189777@sccrnsc02... > Approximately 9/11/03 12:08, Mike Romain uttered for posterity: > > > Aluminum conducts heat slightly better than brass. The big difference > > is in the eye of the buyer though in my mind.... > > ;-) > > I'll be darned, you're right, woulda thought brass would be higher > in thermal conductivity. However radiators are usually copper, > which is almost as good as silver, not brass. > > Diamond 1.28 > Silver 0.968 > Copper 0.928 > Aluminum 0.520 > Brass 0.338 > > Obviously, what you need for your winch/jeep is a diamond radiator. > |
Re: Aluminum Radiator
Approximately 9/11/03 17:12, TJim uttered for posterity:
> Diamond conducts heat well??? How about that! Well, it *is* carbon. I > just never would have thought of diamond as a good heat conductor. Talk > about an expensive radiator! Check with a computer chip geek, is used there for the excellent thermal conductivity. |
Re: Aluminum Radiator
Approximately 9/11/03 17:12, TJim uttered for posterity:
> Diamond conducts heat well??? How about that! Well, it *is* carbon. I > just never would have thought of diamond as a good heat conductor. Talk > about an expensive radiator! Check with a computer chip geek, is used there for the excellent thermal conductivity. |
Re: Aluminum Radiator
That's why they call it ice.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ TJim wrote: > > Diamond conducts heat well??? How about that! Well, it *is* carbon. I > just never would have thought of diamond as a good heat conductor. Talk > about an expensive radiator! |
Re: Aluminum Radiator
That's why they call it ice.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ TJim wrote: > > Diamond conducts heat well??? How about that! Well, it *is* carbon. I > just never would have thought of diamond as a good heat conductor. Talk > about an expensive radiator! |
Re: Aluminum Radiator
Joshua Nelson wrote:
> Ok, remedial question time. What is special about aluminum? It's lightweight, relatively inexpensive, easy to machine, weld, extrude, and form, and an especially good heat conductor, Josh. >Why > would an aluminum radiator be any better than a non-aluminum radiator? Because weight savings are a good thing. The lighter your vehicle the less energy needed to move it, whether on flat roads, or stuck in (guffaw) deep mud! > Is aluminum an especially good heat conductor or something? Why, yes, Joshua, it certainly is. Its thermal conductivity is rather efficient. More so than steel. Do you have a piece of aluminum stock and a sander? Sand the aluminum and grind a hell of a lot of material off. Gets kind of hot in your hand, doesn't it? |
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