agr power steering box 2
 

hello there! does any one here have any experience with one of these? i'm
looking to replace or rebuild my oe steering box. i have an 85 cj7. i've
heard that i can use a gm or camaro box as seen here
http://www.cjoffroad.com/writeup.asp?WU_ID=17&noAdd=1
i'd like to have a variable turning ratio-i think the ratio on the old box
was too low-it took to many turns of the wheel to turn the car.
thanks for any advice!

Re: agr power steering box 2
 

I have the AGR I and, while I have no complaints, I wish I had spent a
couple more dollars for the 2-stage. Sometimes the steering is a little too
responsive on the highway.

> From: "serg" <none@none.com>
> Organization: SBC http://yahoo.sbc.com
> Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
> Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 02:55:40 GMT
> Subject: agr power steering box 2
>
> hello there! does any one here have any experience with one of these? i'm
> looking to replace or rebuild my oe steering box. i have an 85 cj7. i've
> heard that i can use a gm or camaro box as seen here
> http://www.cjoffroad.com/writeup.asp?WU_ID=17&noAdd=1
> i'd like to have a variable turning ratio-i think the ratio on the old box
> was too low-it took to many turns of the wheel to turn the car.
> thanks for any advice!
>
>

Re: agr power steering box 2
 

I have the AGR I and, while I have no complaints, I wish I had spent a
couple more dollars for the 2-stage. Sometimes the steering is a little too
responsive on the highway.

> From: "serg" <none@none.com>
> Organization: SBC http://yahoo.sbc.com
> Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
> Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 02:55:40 GMT
> Subject: agr power steering box 2
>
> hello there! does any one here have any experience with one of these? i'm
> looking to replace or rebuild my oe steering box. i have an 85 cj7. i've
> heard that i can use a gm or camaro box as seen here
> http://www.cjoffroad.com/writeup.asp?WU_ID=17&noAdd=1
> i'd like to have a variable turning ratio-i think the ratio on the old box
> was too low-it took to many turns of the wheel to turn the car.
> thanks for any advice!
>
>

Re: agr power steering box 2
 

I have the AGR I and, while I have no complaints, I wish I had spent a
couple more dollars for the 2-stage. Sometimes the steering is a little too
responsive on the highway.

> From: "serg" <none@none.com>
> Organization: SBC http://yahoo.sbc.com
> Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
> Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 02:55:40 GMT
> Subject: agr power steering box 2
>
> hello there! does any one here have any experience with one of these? i'm
> looking to replace or rebuild my oe steering box. i have an 85 cj7. i've
> heard that i can use a gm or camaro box as seen here
> http://www.cjoffroad.com/writeup.asp?WU_ID=17&noAdd=1
> i'd like to have a variable turning ratio-i think the ratio on the old box
> was too low-it took to many turns of the wheel to turn the car.
> thanks for any advice!
>
>

Re: agr power steering box 2
 

The reason AMC switch to the GM style Saginaw steering box is we
all converted from the bell crank center point steering:
http://www.apple.queensu.ca/CJ3B/Pho...ationChart.gif
To the plentiful '63 Chevy steering box. I bet you'll be happier with
the twenty to one ratio made especially for the off road capable Jeep:
http://www.quadratec.com/cgi-bin/sgi...04022922452500
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

serg wrote:
>
> hello there! does any one here have any experience with one of these? i'm
> looking to replace or rebuild my oe steering box. i have an 85 cj7. i've
> heard that i can use a gm or camaro box as seen here
> http://www.cjoffroad.com/writeup.asp?WU_ID=17&noAdd=1
> i'd like to have a variable turning ratio-i think the ratio on the old box
> was too low-it took to many turns of the wheel to turn the car.
> thanks for any advice!

Re: agr power steering box 2
 

The reason AMC switch to the GM style Saginaw steering box is we
all converted from the bell crank center point steering:
http://www.apple.queensu.ca/CJ3B/Pho...ationChart.gif
To the plentiful '63 Chevy steering box. I bet you'll be happier with
the twenty to one ratio made especially for the off road capable Jeep:
http://www.quadratec.com/cgi-bin/sgi...04022922452500
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

serg wrote:
>
> hello there! does any one here have any experience with one of these? i'm
> looking to replace or rebuild my oe steering box. i have an 85 cj7. i've
> heard that i can use a gm or camaro box as seen here
> http://www.cjoffroad.com/writeup.asp?WU_ID=17&noAdd=1
> i'd like to have a variable turning ratio-i think the ratio on the old box
> was too low-it took to many turns of the wheel to turn the car.
> thanks for any advice!

Re: agr power steering box 2
 

The reason AMC switch to the GM style Saginaw steering box is we
all converted from the bell crank center point steering:
http://www.apple.queensu.ca/CJ3B/Pho...ationChart.gif
To the plentiful '63 Chevy steering box. I bet you'll be happier with
the twenty to one ratio made especially for the off road capable Jeep:
http://www.quadratec.com/cgi-bin/sgi...04022922452500
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

serg wrote:
>
> hello there! does any one here have any experience with one of these? i'm
> looking to replace or rebuild my oe steering box. i have an 85 cj7. i've
> heard that i can use a gm or camaro box as seen here
> http://www.cjoffroad.com/writeup.asp?WU_ID=17&noAdd=1
> i'd like to have a variable turning ratio-i think the ratio on the old box
> was too low-it took to many turns of the wheel to turn the car.
> thanks for any advice!

Re: agr power steering box 2
 

That's a manual box Bill!
One of the best upgrades I made to my CJ-7 was going from a manual to power
box. No way would I recommend a manual box for the trail.
I used a factory refurbished, stock Saginaw.

--
JimG
80' CJ-7, 258 CID
35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
4.56 D30-D44 SOA
D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
LockRight F&R



"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4042B271.AD33D0B9@cox.net...
> The reason AMC switch to the GM style Saginaw steering box is we
> all converted from the bell crank center point steering:
>
http://www.apple.queensu.ca/CJ3B/Pho...ationChart.gif
> To the plentiful '63 Chevy steering box. I bet you'll be happier with
> the twenty to one ratio made especially for the off road capable Jeep:
>
http://www.quadratec.com/cgi-bin/sgi...04022922452500
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> serg wrote:
> >
> > hello there! does any one here have any experience with one of these?
i'm
> > looking to replace or rebuild my oe steering box. i have an 85 cj7.
i've
> > heard that i can use a gm or camaro box as seen here
> > http://www.cjoffroad.com/writeup.asp?WU_ID=17&noAdd=1
> > i'd like to have a variable turning ratio-i think the ratio on the old
box
> > was too low-it took to many turns of the wheel to turn the car.
> > thanks for any advice!

Re: agr power steering box 2
 

That's a manual box Bill!
One of the best upgrades I made to my CJ-7 was going from a manual to power
box. No way would I recommend a manual box for the trail.
I used a factory refurbished, stock Saginaw.

--
JimG
80' CJ-7, 258 CID
35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
4.56 D30-D44 SOA
D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
LockRight F&R



"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4042B271.AD33D0B9@cox.net...
> The reason AMC switch to the GM style Saginaw steering box is we
> all converted from the bell crank center point steering:
>
http://www.apple.queensu.ca/CJ3B/Pho...ationChart.gif
> To the plentiful '63 Chevy steering box. I bet you'll be happier with
> the twenty to one ratio made especially for the off road capable Jeep:
>
http://www.quadratec.com/cgi-bin/sgi...04022922452500
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> serg wrote:
> >
> > hello there! does any one here have any experience with one of these?
i'm
> > looking to replace or rebuild my oe steering box. i have an 85 cj7.
i've
> > heard that i can use a gm or camaro box as seen here
> > http://www.cjoffroad.com/writeup.asp?WU_ID=17&noAdd=1
> > i'd like to have a variable turning ratio-i think the ratio on the old
box
> > was too low-it took to many turns of the wheel to turn the car.
> > thanks for any advice!

Re: agr power steering box 2
 

That's a manual box Bill!
One of the best upgrades I made to my CJ-7 was going from a manual to power
box. No way would I recommend a manual box for the trail.
I used a factory refurbished, stock Saginaw.

--
JimG
80' CJ-7, 258 CID
35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
4.56 D30-D44 SOA
D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
LockRight F&R



"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4042B271.AD33D0B9@cox.net...
> The reason AMC switch to the GM style Saginaw steering box is we
> all converted from the bell crank center point steering:
>
http://www.apple.queensu.ca/CJ3B/Pho...ationChart.gif
> To the plentiful '63 Chevy steering box. I bet you'll be happier with
> the twenty to one ratio made especially for the off road capable Jeep:
>
http://www.quadratec.com/cgi-bin/sgi...04022922452500
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> serg wrote:
> >
> > hello there! does any one here have any experience with one of these?
i'm
> > looking to replace or rebuild my oe steering box. i have an 85 cj7.
i've
> > heard that i can use a gm or camaro box as seen here
> > http://www.cjoffroad.com/writeup.asp?WU_ID=17&noAdd=1
> > i'd like to have a variable turning ratio-i think the ratio on the old
box
> > was too low-it took to many turns of the wheel to turn the car.
> > thanks for any advice!

Re: agr power steering box 2
 

Real Jeeps use only Armstrong power steering.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

JimG wrote:
>
> That's a manual box Bill!
> One of the best upgrades I made to my CJ-7 was going from a manual to power
> box. No way would I recommend a manual box for the trail.
> I used a factory refurbished, stock Saginaw.
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> LockRight F&R

Re: agr power steering box 2
 

Real Jeeps use only Armstrong power steering.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

JimG wrote:
>
> That's a manual box Bill!
> One of the best upgrades I made to my CJ-7 was going from a manual to power
> box. No way would I recommend a manual box for the trail.
> I used a factory refurbished, stock Saginaw.
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> LockRight F&R

Re: agr power steering box 2
 

Real Jeeps use only Armstrong power steering.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

JimG wrote:
>
> That's a manual box Bill!
> One of the best upgrades I made to my CJ-7 was going from a manual to power
> box. No way would I recommend a manual box for the trail.
> I used a factory refurbished, stock Saginaw.
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> LockRight F&R

Re: agr power steering box 2
 

Hi Bill,

Here's what prompted me to get rid of the "Armstrong power steering":
http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/CJ72roll.JPG
Doesn't look like a difficult place, but those ruts took hold of the
steering and my Armstrong didn't recover quick enough.
(of course no flex, no clearance didn't help either!)
:-)

JimG


"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4043A89F.2302C7A@cox.net...
> Real Jeeps use only Armstrong power steering.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> JimG wrote:
> >
> > That's a manual box Bill!
> > One of the best upgrades I made to my CJ-7 was going from a manual to
power
> > box. No way would I recommend a manual box for the trail.
> > I used a factory refurbished, stock Saginaw.
> >
> > --
> > JimG
> > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > LockRight F&R

Re: agr power steering box 2
 

Hi Bill,

Here's what prompted me to get rid of the "Armstrong power steering":
http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/CJ72roll.JPG
Doesn't look like a difficult place, but those ruts took hold of the
steering and my Armstrong didn't recover quick enough.
(of course no flex, no clearance didn't help either!)
:-)

JimG


"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4043A89F.2302C7A@cox.net...
> Real Jeeps use only Armstrong power steering.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> JimG wrote:
> >
> > That's a manual box Bill!
> > One of the best upgrades I made to my CJ-7 was going from a manual to
power
> > box. No way would I recommend a manual box for the trail.
> > I used a factory refurbished, stock Saginaw.
> >
> > --
> > JimG
> > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > LockRight F&R

Re: agr power steering box 2
 

Hi Bill,

Here's what prompted me to get rid of the "Armstrong power steering":
http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/CJ72roll.JPG
Doesn't look like a difficult place, but those ruts took hold of the
steering and my Armstrong didn't recover quick enough.
(of course no flex, no clearance didn't help either!)
:-)

JimG


"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4043A89F.2302C7A@cox.net...
> Real Jeeps use only Armstrong power steering.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> JimG wrote:
> >
> > That's a manual box Bill!
> > One of the best upgrades I made to my CJ-7 was going from a manual to
power
> > box. No way would I recommend a manual box for the trail.
> > I used a factory refurbished, stock Saginaw.
> >
> > --
> > JimG
> > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > LockRight F&R

Re: agr power steering box 2
 

Hi Jim,
I just figure that extra five ponies added to my four hundred is
all I may need to drive out of it.
I remember arguing over that picture as to whether you really felt
your weight was needed to keep it from falling over. ;-)
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

JimG wrote:
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> Here's what prompted me to get rid of the "Armstrong power steering":
> http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/CJ72roll.JPG
> Doesn't look like a difficult place, but those ruts took hold of the
> steering and my Armstrong didn't recover quick enough.
> (of course no flex, no clearance didn't help either!)
> :-)
>
> JimG
> > > --
> > > JimG
> > > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > > LockRight F&R

Re: agr power steering box 2
 

Hi Jim,
I just figure that extra five ponies added to my four hundred is
all I may need to drive out of it.
I remember arguing over that picture as to whether you really felt
your weight was needed to keep it from falling over. ;-)
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

JimG wrote:
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> Here's what prompted me to get rid of the "Armstrong power steering":
> http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/CJ72roll.JPG
> Doesn't look like a difficult place, but those ruts took hold of the
> steering and my Armstrong didn't recover quick enough.
> (of course no flex, no clearance didn't help either!)
> :-)
>
> JimG
> > > --
> > > JimG
> > > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > > LockRight F&R

Re: agr power steering box 2
 

Hi Jim,
I just figure that extra five ponies added to my four hundred is
all I may need to drive out of it.
I remember arguing over that picture as to whether you really felt
your weight was needed to keep it from falling over. ;-)
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

JimG wrote:
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> Here's what prompted me to get rid of the "Armstrong power steering":
> http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/CJ72roll.JPG
> Doesn't look like a difficult place, but those ruts took hold of the
> steering and my Armstrong didn't recover quick enough.
> (of course no flex, no clearance didn't help either!)
> :-)
>
> JimG
> > > --
> > > JimG
> > > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > > LockRight F&R

Re: agr power steering box 2
 

405 HP... impressive!
Just to clarify... I'm still in the Jeep suckin' up seat cushion! The big
guy on the nerf bar jumped on as the counter weight.
Here's my view:
http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/MyViewRoll.JPG



"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4043C827.8352D8E@cox.net...
> Hi Jim,
> I just figure that extra five ponies added to my four hundred is
> all I may need to drive out of it.
> I remember arguing over that picture as to whether you really felt
> your weight was needed to keep it from falling over. ;-)
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> JimG wrote:
> >
> > Hi Bill,
> >
> > Here's what prompted me to get rid of the "Armstrong power steering":
> > http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/CJ72roll.JPG
> > Doesn't look like a difficult place, but those ruts took hold of the
> > steering and my Armstrong didn't recover quick enough.
> > (of course no flex, no clearance didn't help either!)
> > :-)
> >
> > JimG
> > > > --
> > > > JimG
> > > > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > > > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > > > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > > > LockRight F&R

Re: agr power steering box 2
 

405 HP... impressive!
Just to clarify... I'm still in the Jeep suckin' up seat cushion! The big
guy on the nerf bar jumped on as the counter weight.
Here's my view:
http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/MyViewRoll.JPG



"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4043C827.8352D8E@cox.net...
> Hi Jim,
> I just figure that extra five ponies added to my four hundred is
> all I may need to drive out of it.
> I remember arguing over that picture as to whether you really felt
> your weight was needed to keep it from falling over. ;-)
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> JimG wrote:
> >
> > Hi Bill,
> >
> > Here's what prompted me to get rid of the "Armstrong power steering":
> > http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/CJ72roll.JPG
> > Doesn't look like a difficult place, but those ruts took hold of the
> > steering and my Armstrong didn't recover quick enough.
> > (of course no flex, no clearance didn't help either!)
> > :-)
> >
> > JimG
> > > > --
> > > > JimG
> > > > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > > > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > > > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > > > LockRight F&R

Re: agr power steering box 2
 

405 HP... impressive!
Just to clarify... I'm still in the Jeep suckin' up seat cushion! The big
guy on the nerf bar jumped on as the counter weight.
Here's my view:
http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/MyViewRoll.JPG



"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4043C827.8352D8E@cox.net...
> Hi Jim,
> I just figure that extra five ponies added to my four hundred is
> all I may need to drive out of it.
> I remember arguing over that picture as to whether you really felt
> your weight was needed to keep it from falling over. ;-)
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> JimG wrote:
> >
> > Hi Bill,
> >
> > Here's what prompted me to get rid of the "Armstrong power steering":
> > http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/CJ72roll.JPG
> > Doesn't look like a difficult place, but those ruts took hold of the
> > steering and my Armstrong didn't recover quick enough.
> > (of course no flex, no clearance didn't help either!)
> > :-)
> >
> > JimG
> > > > --
> > > > JimG
> > > > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > > > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > > > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > > > LockRight F&R

Re: agr power steering box 2
 

Jim you need a tilt meter: http://www.----------.com/MyViewRoll.jpg ;-)
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

JimG wrote:
>
> Just to clarify... I'm still in the Jeep suckin' up seat cushion! The big
> guy on the nerf bar jumped on as the counter weight.
> Here's my view:
> http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/MyViewRoll.JPG

Re: agr power steering box 2
 

Jim you need a tilt meter: http://www.----------.com/MyViewRoll.jpg ;-)
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

JimG wrote:
>
> Just to clarify... I'm still in the Jeep suckin' up seat cushion! The big
> guy on the nerf bar jumped on as the counter weight.
> Here's my view:
> http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/MyViewRoll.JPG

Re: agr power steering box 2
 

Jim you need a tilt meter: http://www.----------.com/MyViewRoll.jpg ;-)
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

JimG wrote:
>
> Just to clarify... I'm still in the Jeep suckin' up seat cushion! The big
> guy on the nerf bar jumped on as the counter weight.
> Here's my view:
> http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/MyViewRoll.JPG