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shaqtopz@aol.com 12-21-2007 01:10 AM

Re: 99 JGC Laredo 4.0L I6 stalling
 
On Dec 18, 11:43 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> lost_dogma wrote:
> > I have a 1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.0L I6, over 130,000 miles,
> > Selec-Trac 4WD...

>
> > Earlier in the month we had snow and record rainfall which cause
> > flooding and an awful lot of standing water in areas where I drive.
> > To keep a long story short, I'm guessing that something that shouldn't
> > have gotten wet must have because the engine check light came on and
> > the problems started occurring: The trouble codes that came up were:

>
> > P1596 (Speed control switch), and P0123 (Throttle position sensor).

>
> > After starting the engine, the rpms would race up past 2k then come
> > back down to normal. When slowing down or stopping it would stall and
> > die. I could easily start it again, but having this happen in traffic
> > is a pain and possibly dangerous. Needing the car, I took it to a
> > local shop and they were able to fix/clear the P1596 trouble code by
> > cleaning/drying the connections to the sensors, but the P0123 code
> > remains even after they installed a new TPS. So it still stalls
> > intermittenly and always at the most incovienent time. I also noticed
> > that as certain times around 20-25 mph it would hiccup for lack of a
> > better word. This would happend when I needed speed/power.

>
> > Before my Jeep ran like a champ, no probems whatsoever...
> > now it needs a little help to get back to its old self...

>
> > Any information, suggestions, possible fixes would highly be
> > appreciated!

>
> > Thank you,
> > Nelson

>
> You are still describing a TPS connection failure with the racing and
> stalling. The new part only cleaned 'half' the connection.
>
> Spraycontact cleaneror even WD40 is called for like Will mentions.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 'New' frame in the works for '08. Some Canadian Bush Trip and Build
> Photos:http://mikeromainjeeptrips.shutterfly.com- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Yikes, not WD-40 - good temporatary fix, but could make it worse in
awhile. Use deoxIT on all connections, works EVERY time. www.deoxit.com
Mike

Mike Romain 12-21-2007 10:59 AM

Re: 99 JGC Laredo 4.0L I6 stalling- Spam warning!
 
shaqtopz@aol.com wrote:

>
> Yikes, not WD-40 - good temporatary fix, but could make it worse in
> awhile. Use deoxIT on all connections, works EVERY time. <SPAM SNIPPED>


Listen you freaking SPAMMER, WD40 is called 'water displacement fluid #
40. It is 'designed to be used on electrical connections and 'WORKS
VERY WELL' for this.

Your deoxit is Spam ---- that will not fix the problem. WD40 is better!

WD40 at least adds a seal that your SPAM junk doesn't.

I would 'NEVER" buy Spammed snake oil, Your product only deserves a BOYCOTT!

Keep Spamming my posts all over Usenet and I 'WILL' start a Boycott
campaign.

A 'real' electronic contact cleaner is called for with dielectric grease
on the seal skirts to do a proper job.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
'New' frame in the works for '08. Some Canadian Bush Trip and Build
Photos: http://mikeromainjeeptrips.shutterfly.com

Mike Romain 12-21-2007 10:59 AM

Re: 99 JGC Laredo 4.0L I6 stalling- Spam warning!
 
shaqtopz@aol.com wrote:

>
> Yikes, not WD-40 - good temporatary fix, but could make it worse in
> awhile. Use deoxIT on all connections, works EVERY time. <SPAM SNIPPED>


Listen you freaking SPAMMER, WD40 is called 'water displacement fluid #
40. It is 'designed to be used on electrical connections and 'WORKS
VERY WELL' for this.

Your deoxit is Spam ---- that will not fix the problem. WD40 is better!

WD40 at least adds a seal that your SPAM junk doesn't.

I would 'NEVER" buy Spammed snake oil, Your product only deserves a BOYCOTT!

Keep Spamming my posts all over Usenet and I 'WILL' start a Boycott
campaign.

A 'real' electronic contact cleaner is called for with dielectric grease
on the seal skirts to do a proper job.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
'New' frame in the works for '08. Some Canadian Bush Trip and Build
Photos: http://mikeromainjeeptrips.shutterfly.com

philthy 12-23-2007 08:12 AM

Re: 99 JGC Laredo 4.0L I6 stalling
 
clean carbon off the throttle plate and throttle body and then clean battery
termianls too
poor battery connections casue all sorts of stalling issues in cars newer than
2000's

"shaqtopz@aol.com" wrote:

> On Dec 18, 11:43 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > lost_dogma wrote:
> > > I have a 1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.0L I6, over 130,000 miles,
> > > Selec-Trac 4WD...

> >
> > > Earlier in the month we had snow and record rainfall which cause
> > > flooding and an awful lot of standing water in areas where I drive.
> > > To keep a long story short, I'm guessing that something that shouldn't
> > > have gotten wet must have because the engine check light came on and
> > > the problems started occurring: The trouble codes that came up were:

> >
> > > P1596 (Speed control switch), and P0123 (Throttle position sensor).

> >
> > > After starting the engine, the rpms would race up past 2k then come
> > > back down to normal. When slowing down or stopping it would stall and
> > > die. I could easily start it again, but having this happen in traffic
> > > is a pain and possibly dangerous. Needing the car, I took it to a
> > > local shop and they were able to fix/clear the P1596 trouble code by
> > > cleaning/drying the connections to the sensors, but the P0123 code
> > > remains even after they installed a new TPS. So it still stalls
> > > intermittenly and always at the most incovienent time. I also noticed
> > > that as certain times around 20-25 mph it would hiccup for lack of a
> > > better word. This would happend when I needed speed/power.

> >
> > > Before my Jeep ran like a champ, no probems whatsoever...
> > > now it needs a little help to get back to its old self...

> >
> > > Any information, suggestions, possible fixes would highly be
> > > appreciated!

> >
> > > Thank you,
> > > Nelson

> >
> > You are still describing a TPS connection failure with the racing and
> > stalling. The new part only cleaned 'half' the connection.
> >
> > Spraycontact cleaneror even WD40 is called for like Will mentions.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 'New' frame in the works for '08. Some Canadian Bush Trip and Build
> > Photos:http://mikeromainjeeptrips.shutterfly.com- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -

>
> Yikes, not WD-40 - good temporatary fix, but could make it worse in
> awhile. Use deoxIT on all connections, works EVERY time. www.deoxit.com
> Mike



philthy 12-23-2007 08:12 AM

Re: 99 JGC Laredo 4.0L I6 stalling
 
clean carbon off the throttle plate and throttle body and then clean battery
termianls too
poor battery connections casue all sorts of stalling issues in cars newer than
2000's

"shaqtopz@aol.com" wrote:

> On Dec 18, 11:43 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > lost_dogma wrote:
> > > I have a 1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.0L I6, over 130,000 miles,
> > > Selec-Trac 4WD...

> >
> > > Earlier in the month we had snow and record rainfall which cause
> > > flooding and an awful lot of standing water in areas where I drive.
> > > To keep a long story short, I'm guessing that something that shouldn't
> > > have gotten wet must have because the engine check light came on and
> > > the problems started occurring: The trouble codes that came up were:

> >
> > > P1596 (Speed control switch), and P0123 (Throttle position sensor).

> >
> > > After starting the engine, the rpms would race up past 2k then come
> > > back down to normal. When slowing down or stopping it would stall and
> > > die. I could easily start it again, but having this happen in traffic
> > > is a pain and possibly dangerous. Needing the car, I took it to a
> > > local shop and they were able to fix/clear the P1596 trouble code by
> > > cleaning/drying the connections to the sensors, but the P0123 code
> > > remains even after they installed a new TPS. So it still stalls
> > > intermittenly and always at the most incovienent time. I also noticed
> > > that as certain times around 20-25 mph it would hiccup for lack of a
> > > better word. This would happend when I needed speed/power.

> >
> > > Before my Jeep ran like a champ, no probems whatsoever...
> > > now it needs a little help to get back to its old self...

> >
> > > Any information, suggestions, possible fixes would highly be
> > > appreciated!

> >
> > > Thank you,
> > > Nelson

> >
> > You are still describing a TPS connection failure with the racing and
> > stalling. The new part only cleaned 'half' the connection.
> >
> > Spraycontact cleaneror even WD40 is called for like Will mentions.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 'New' frame in the works for '08. Some Canadian Bush Trip and Build
> > Photos:http://mikeromainjeeptrips.shutterfly.com- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -

>
> Yikes, not WD-40 - good temporatary fix, but could make it worse in
> awhile. Use deoxIT on all connections, works EVERY time. www.deoxit.com
> Mike



philthy 12-23-2007 08:17 AM

Re: 99 JGC Laredo 4.0L I6 stalling- Spam warning!
 
mike you beloved wd gets into the plastics of the sensors and degrades the
plastic (both are made from petro chemicals)actully causing more damge to
sensors in the long run and in the case of the oring the tps sensor needs to
seal from a vacumm leak will cause the oring to fall apart i see it alot

Mike Romain wrote:

> shaqtopz@aol.com wrote:
>
> >
> > Yikes, not WD-40 - good temporatary fix, but could make it worse in
> > awhile. Use deoxIT on all connections, works EVERY time. <SPAM SNIPPED>

>
> Listen you freaking SPAMMER, WD40 is called 'water displacement fluid #
> 40. It is 'designed to be used on electrical connections and 'WORKS
> VERY WELL' for this.
>
> Your deoxit is Spam ---- that will not fix the problem. WD40 is better!
>
> WD40 at least adds a seal that your SPAM junk doesn't.
>
> I would 'NEVER" buy Spammed snake oil, Your product only deserves a BOYCOTT!
>
> Keep Spamming my posts all over Usenet and I 'WILL' start a Boycott
> campaign.
>
> A 'real' electronic contact cleaner is called for with dielectric grease
> on the seal skirts to do a proper job.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 'New' frame in the works for '08. Some Canadian Bush Trip and Build
> Photos: http://mikeromainjeeptrips.shutterfly.com



philthy 12-23-2007 08:17 AM

Re: 99 JGC Laredo 4.0L I6 stalling- Spam warning!
 
mike you beloved wd gets into the plastics of the sensors and degrades the
plastic (both are made from petro chemicals)actully causing more damge to
sensors in the long run and in the case of the oring the tps sensor needs to
seal from a vacumm leak will cause the oring to fall apart i see it alot

Mike Romain wrote:

> shaqtopz@aol.com wrote:
>
> >
> > Yikes, not WD-40 - good temporatary fix, but could make it worse in
> > awhile. Use deoxIT on all connections, works EVERY time. <SPAM SNIPPED>

>
> Listen you freaking SPAMMER, WD40 is called 'water displacement fluid #
> 40. It is 'designed to be used on electrical connections and 'WORKS
> VERY WELL' for this.
>
> Your deoxit is Spam ---- that will not fix the problem. WD40 is better!
>
> WD40 at least adds a seal that your SPAM junk doesn't.
>
> I would 'NEVER" buy Spammed snake oil, Your product only deserves a BOYCOTT!
>
> Keep Spamming my posts all over Usenet and I 'WILL' start a Boycott
> campaign.
>
> A 'real' electronic contact cleaner is called for with dielectric grease
> on the seal skirts to do a proper job.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 'New' frame in the works for '08. Some Canadian Bush Trip and Build
> Photos: http://mikeromainjeeptrips.shutterfly.com



Mike Romain 12-23-2007 11:11 AM

Re: 99 JGC Laredo 4.0L I6 stalling- Spam warning!
 
I was responding to a scumbucket Spammer and I was talking about the
'electrical connection' on the sensors, not the sensors themselves.

As well I did 'pointedly' state that a proper electronic contact cleaner
was the best way to go as did Will whom I quoted as having the proper
idea by saying 'In a pinch, WD40 will do a fair job'.

Maybe you should read the thread before butting in on a scumbucket's
post or are you his alter ego?

Is that your SPAM name?

Mike

philthy wrote:
> mike you beloved wd gets into the plastics of the sensors and degrades the
> plastic (both are made from petro chemicals)actully causing more damge to
> sensors in the long run and in the case of the oring the tps sensor needs to
> seal from a vacumm leak will cause the oring to fall apart i see it alot
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>> shaqtopz@aol.com wrote:
>>
>>> Yikes, not WD-40 - good temporatary fix, but could make it worse in
>>> awhile. Use deoxIT on all connections, works EVERY time. <SPAM SNIPPED>

>> Listen you freaking SPAMMER, WD40 is called 'water displacement fluid #
>> 40. It is 'designed to be used on electrical connections and 'WORKS
>> VERY WELL' for this.
>>
>> Your deoxit is Spam ---- that will not fix the problem. WD40 is better!
>>
>> WD40 at least adds a seal that your SPAM junk doesn't.
>>
>> I would 'NEVER" buy Spammed snake oil, Your product only deserves a BOYCOTT!
>>
>> Keep Spamming my posts all over Usenet and I 'WILL' start a Boycott
>> campaign.
>>
>> A 'real' electronic contact cleaner is called for with dielectric grease
>> on the seal skirts to do a proper job.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 'New' frame in the works for '08. Some Canadian Bush Trip and Build
>> Photos: http://mikeromainjeeptrips.shutterfly.com

>


Mike Romain 12-23-2007 11:11 AM

Re: 99 JGC Laredo 4.0L I6 stalling- Spam warning!
 
I was responding to a scumbucket Spammer and I was talking about the
'electrical connection' on the sensors, not the sensors themselves.

As well I did 'pointedly' state that a proper electronic contact cleaner
was the best way to go as did Will whom I quoted as having the proper
idea by saying 'In a pinch, WD40 will do a fair job'.

Maybe you should read the thread before butting in on a scumbucket's
post or are you his alter ego?

Is that your SPAM name?

Mike

philthy wrote:
> mike you beloved wd gets into the plastics of the sensors and degrades the
> plastic (both are made from petro chemicals)actully causing more damge to
> sensors in the long run and in the case of the oring the tps sensor needs to
> seal from a vacumm leak will cause the oring to fall apart i see it alot
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>> shaqtopz@aol.com wrote:
>>
>>> Yikes, not WD-40 - good temporatary fix, but could make it worse in
>>> awhile. Use deoxIT on all connections, works EVERY time. <SPAM SNIPPED>

>> Listen you freaking SPAMMER, WD40 is called 'water displacement fluid #
>> 40. It is 'designed to be used on electrical connections and 'WORKS
>> VERY WELL' for this.
>>
>> Your deoxit is Spam ---- that will not fix the problem. WD40 is better!
>>
>> WD40 at least adds a seal that your SPAM junk doesn't.
>>
>> I would 'NEVER" buy Spammed snake oil, Your product only deserves a BOYCOTT!
>>
>> Keep Spamming my posts all over Usenet and I 'WILL' start a Boycott
>> campaign.
>>
>> A 'real' electronic contact cleaner is called for with dielectric grease
>> on the seal skirts to do a proper job.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 'New' frame in the works for '08. Some Canadian Bush Trip and Build
>> Photos: http://mikeromainjeeptrips.shutterfly.com

>


Mike Romain 12-23-2007 11:15 AM

Re: 99 JGC Laredo 4.0L I6 stalling
 
His symptoms of revving high then stalling point directly to a bad
connection on the TPS. This is exactly how they act.

Why are you reposting SPAM? Not once, but twice now.

Mike

philthy wrote:
> clean carbon off the throttle plate and throttle body and then clean battery
> termianls too
> poor battery connections casue all sorts of stalling issues in cars newer than
> 2000's
>
> "shaqtopz@aol.com" wrote:
>
>> On Dec 18, 11:43 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>> lost_dogma wrote:
>>>> I have a 1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.0L I6, over 130,000 miles,
>>>> Selec-Trac 4WD...
>>>> Earlier in the month we had snow and record rainfall which cause
>>>> flooding and an awful lot of standing water in areas where I drive.
>>>> To keep a long story short, I'm guessing that something that shouldn't
>>>> have gotten wet must have because the engine check light came on and
>>>> the problems started occurring: The trouble codes that came up were:
>>>> P1596 (Speed control switch), and P0123 (Throttle position sensor).
>>>> After starting the engine, the rpms would race up past 2k then come
>>>> back down to normal. When slowing down or stopping it would stall and
>>>> die. I could easily start it again, but having this happen in traffic
>>>> is a pain and possibly dangerous. Needing the car, I took it to a
>>>> local shop and they were able to fix/clear the P1596 trouble code by
>>>> cleaning/drying the connections to the sensors, but the P0123 code
>>>> remains even after they installed a new TPS. So it still stalls
>>>> intermittenly and always at the most incovienent time. I also noticed
>>>> that as certain times around 20-25 mph it would hiccup for lack of a
>>>> better word. This would happend when I needed speed/power.
>>>> Before my Jeep ran like a champ, no probems whatsoever...
>>>> now it needs a little help to get back to its old self...
>>>> Any information, suggestions, possible fixes would highly be
>>>> appreciated!
>>>> Thank you,
>>>> Nelson
>>> You are still describing a TPS connection failure with the racing and
>>> stalling. The new part only cleaned 'half' the connection.
>>>
>>> Spraycontact cleaneror even WD40 is called for like Will mentions.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 'New' frame in the works for '08. Some Canadian Bush Trip and Build
>>> Photos:http://mikeromainjeeptrips.shutterfly.com- Hide quoted text -
>>>

<spam snipped>


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