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Dave 12-03-2007 01:50 PM

98TJ Heat Issue
 
I'm looking for any ideas on this one, as it doesn't make much sense
to me:'

I drove to get lunch, and sitting in the drive-thru line, turned on
the heat. It was probably around 10 degrees Fahrenheit with the wind-
chill. The engine was about 3/4 warmed up, at which point, I should
(and have in the past) feel some nice heat. . But, all I got was cold
air. Very cold air. Heater controls all looked good, so I left it on,
and sat there, until the needle was vertical, and still, cold air.

So I turned the engine off, until I got my order, and fired it back
up, and immediately had heat.

At the time, I turned the engine off, as I suspected a stuck
thermostat, but later realized that the heater-core is always on the
same loop as the engine as far as the coolant goes, so that couldn't
be it. Any ideas? This is the first time this has happened, so I'll
post more if it happens more.

Any ideas?

DougW 12-03-2007 05:30 PM

Re: 98TJ Heat Issue
 
Dave wrote:
> I'm looking for any ideas on this one, as it doesn't make much sense
> to me:'
>
> I drove to get lunch, and sitting in the drive-thru line, turned on
> the heat. It was probably around 10 degrees Fahrenheit with the wind-
> chill. The engine was about 3/4 warmed up, at which point, I should
> (and have in the past) feel some nice heat. . But, all I got was cold
> air. Very cold air. Heater controls all looked good, so I left it on,
> and sat there, until the needle was vertical, and still, cold air.
>
> So I turned the engine off, until I got my order, and fired it back
> up, and immediately had heat.
>
> At the time, I turned the engine off, as I suspected a stuck
> thermostat, but later realized that the heater-core is always on the
> same loop as the engine as far as the coolant goes, so that couldn't
> be it. Any ideas? This is the first time this has happened, so I'll
> post more if it happens more.
>
> Any ideas?


Always.... :)

Vac leak, possibly a cracked hardline or something that took a bit
of heat from the engine to soften up and be able to seal. I'd check
the hard lines running from the intake rail for splits or loose soft
connections.

Although, IIRC the blend door is a stepper motor. In that case low
vac would have just kept the output stuck to one setting.

If it's electrical or a stuck blend door (Guess if it got water
in there it could freeze the rubber seals and make the door stick)
Heat would then free it.

I'm out of ideas. :/

--
DougW



DougW 12-03-2007 05:30 PM

Re: 98TJ Heat Issue
 
Dave wrote:
> I'm looking for any ideas on this one, as it doesn't make much sense
> to me:'
>
> I drove to get lunch, and sitting in the drive-thru line, turned on
> the heat. It was probably around 10 degrees Fahrenheit with the wind-
> chill. The engine was about 3/4 warmed up, at which point, I should
> (and have in the past) feel some nice heat. . But, all I got was cold
> air. Very cold air. Heater controls all looked good, so I left it on,
> and sat there, until the needle was vertical, and still, cold air.
>
> So I turned the engine off, until I got my order, and fired it back
> up, and immediately had heat.
>
> At the time, I turned the engine off, as I suspected a stuck
> thermostat, but later realized that the heater-core is always on the
> same loop as the engine as far as the coolant goes, so that couldn't
> be it. Any ideas? This is the first time this has happened, so I'll
> post more if it happens more.
>
> Any ideas?


Always.... :)

Vac leak, possibly a cracked hardline or something that took a bit
of heat from the engine to soften up and be able to seal. I'd check
the hard lines running from the intake rail for splits or loose soft
connections.

Although, IIRC the blend door is a stepper motor. In that case low
vac would have just kept the output stuck to one setting.

If it's electrical or a stuck blend door (Guess if it got water
in there it could freeze the rubber seals and make the door stick)
Heat would then free it.

I'm out of ideas. :/

--
DougW



J. Clarke 12-03-2007 07:32 PM

Re: 98TJ Heat Issue
 
DougW wrote:
> Dave wrote:
>> I'm looking for any ideas on this one, as it doesn't make much
>> sense
>> to me:'
>>
>> I drove to get lunch, and sitting in the drive-thru line, turned on
>> the heat. It was probably around 10 degrees Fahrenheit with the
>> wind-
>> chill. The engine was about 3/4 warmed up, at which point, I should
>> (and have in the past) feel some nice heat. . But, all I got was
>> cold
>> air. Very cold air. Heater controls all looked good, so I left it
>> on,
>> and sat there, until the needle was vertical, and still, cold air.
>>
>> So I turned the engine off, until I got my order, and fired it back
>> up, and immediately had heat.
>>
>> At the time, I turned the engine off, as I suspected a stuck
>> thermostat, but later realized that the heater-core is always on
>> the
>> same loop as the engine as far as the coolant goes, so that
>> couldn't
>> be it. Any ideas? This is the first time this has happened, so I'll
>> post more if it happens more.
>>
>> Any ideas?

>
> Always.... :)
>
> Vac leak, possibly a cracked hardline or something that took a bit
> of heat from the engine to soften up and be able to seal. I'd check
> the hard lines running from the intake rail for splits or loose soft
> connections.
>
> Although, IIRC the blend door is a stepper motor. In that case low
> vac would have just kept the output stuck to one setting.
>
> If it's electrical or a stuck blend door (Guess if it got water
> in there it could freeze the rubber seals and make the door stick)
> Heat would then free it.
>
> I'm out of ideas. :/


Might have just gotten some water in it, frozen enough to stick the
door, later the ice melted and problem solved.

--
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)



J. Clarke 12-03-2007 07:32 PM

Re: 98TJ Heat Issue
 
DougW wrote:
> Dave wrote:
>> I'm looking for any ideas on this one, as it doesn't make much
>> sense
>> to me:'
>>
>> I drove to get lunch, and sitting in the drive-thru line, turned on
>> the heat. It was probably around 10 degrees Fahrenheit with the
>> wind-
>> chill. The engine was about 3/4 warmed up, at which point, I should
>> (and have in the past) feel some nice heat. . But, all I got was
>> cold
>> air. Very cold air. Heater controls all looked good, so I left it
>> on,
>> and sat there, until the needle was vertical, and still, cold air.
>>
>> So I turned the engine off, until I got my order, and fired it back
>> up, and immediately had heat.
>>
>> At the time, I turned the engine off, as I suspected a stuck
>> thermostat, but later realized that the heater-core is always on
>> the
>> same loop as the engine as far as the coolant goes, so that
>> couldn't
>> be it. Any ideas? This is the first time this has happened, so I'll
>> post more if it happens more.
>>
>> Any ideas?

>
> Always.... :)
>
> Vac leak, possibly a cracked hardline or something that took a bit
> of heat from the engine to soften up and be able to seal. I'd check
> the hard lines running from the intake rail for splits or loose soft
> connections.
>
> Although, IIRC the blend door is a stepper motor. In that case low
> vac would have just kept the output stuck to one setting.
>
> If it's electrical or a stuck blend door (Guess if it got water
> in there it could freeze the rubber seals and make the door stick)
> Heat would then free it.
>
> I'm out of ideas. :/


Might have just gotten some water in it, frozen enough to stick the
door, later the ice melted and problem solved.

--
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)



L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 12-03-2007 07:48 PM

Re: 98TJ Heat Issue
 
Hi Dave,
Check the coolant level at the radiator, cold. Many times an air pock
may fill the theater core. Those dried deposits should be back flushed out,
every two years alone with the coolant regular change.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:----------@----------.com


"Dave" <dmcglynn@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:021e8fb0-fb14-412c-91f0-fba6f041e230@a35g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> I'm looking for any ideas on this one, as it doesn't make much sense
> to me:'
>
> I drove to get lunch, and sitting in the drive-thru line, turned on
> the heat. It was probably around 10 degrees Fahrenheit with the wind-
> chill. The engine was about 3/4 warmed up, at which point, I should
> (and have in the past) feel some nice heat. . But, all I got was cold
> air. Very cold air. Heater controls all looked good, so I left it on,
> and sat there, until the needle was vertical, and still, cold air.
>
> So I turned the engine off, until I got my order, and fired it back
> up, and immediately had heat.
>
> At the time, I turned the engine off, as I suspected a stuck
> thermostat, but later realized that the heater-core is always on the
> same loop as the engine as far as the coolant goes, so that couldn't
> be it. Any ideas? This is the first time this has happened, so I'll
> post more if it happens more.
>
> Any ideas?




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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 12-03-2007 07:48 PM

Re: 98TJ Heat Issue
 
Hi Dave,
Check the coolant level at the radiator, cold. Many times an air pock
may fill the theater core. Those dried deposits should be back flushed out,
every two years alone with the coolant regular change.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:----------@----------.com


"Dave" <dmcglynn@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:021e8fb0-fb14-412c-91f0-fba6f041e230@a35g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> I'm looking for any ideas on this one, as it doesn't make much sense
> to me:'
>
> I drove to get lunch, and sitting in the drive-thru line, turned on
> the heat. It was probably around 10 degrees Fahrenheit with the wind-
> chill. The engine was about 3/4 warmed up, at which point, I should
> (and have in the past) feel some nice heat. . But, all I got was cold
> air. Very cold air. Heater controls all looked good, so I left it on,
> and sat there, until the needle was vertical, and still, cold air.
>
> So I turned the engine off, until I got my order, and fired it back
> up, and immediately had heat.
>
> At the time, I turned the engine off, as I suspected a stuck
> thermostat, but later realized that the heater-core is always on the
> same loop as the engine as far as the coolant goes, so that couldn't
> be it. Any ideas? This is the first time this has happened, so I'll
> post more if it happens more.
>
> Any ideas?




--
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Lee Ayrton 12-03-2007 09:41 PM

Re: 98TJ Heat Issue
 
On Mon, 3 Dec 2007, Dave wrote:

> I'm looking for any ideas on this one, as it doesn't make much sense
> to me:'
>
> I drove to get lunch, and sitting in the drive-thru line, turned on
> the heat. It was probably around 10 degrees Fahrenheit with the wind-
> chill. The engine was about 3/4 warmed up, at which point, I should
> (and have in the past) feel some nice heat. . But, all I got was cold
> air. Very cold air. Heater controls all looked good, so I left it on,
> and sat there, until the needle was vertical, and still, cold air.
>
> So I turned the engine off, until I got my order, and fired it back
> up, and immediately had heat.
>
> At the time, I turned the engine off, as I suspected a stuck
> thermostat, but later realized that the heater-core is always on the
> same loop as the engine as far as the coolant goes, so that couldn't
> be it. Any ideas? This is the first time this has happened, so I'll
> post more if it happens more.
>
> Any ideas?


If your thermostat is stuck open the engine won't make any heat.
Happened last winter in my `69 4L XJ.



Lee Ayrton 12-03-2007 09:41 PM

Re: 98TJ Heat Issue
 
On Mon, 3 Dec 2007, Dave wrote:

> I'm looking for any ideas on this one, as it doesn't make much sense
> to me:'
>
> I drove to get lunch, and sitting in the drive-thru line, turned on
> the heat. It was probably around 10 degrees Fahrenheit with the wind-
> chill. The engine was about 3/4 warmed up, at which point, I should
> (and have in the past) feel some nice heat. . But, all I got was cold
> air. Very cold air. Heater controls all looked good, so I left it on,
> and sat there, until the needle was vertical, and still, cold air.
>
> So I turned the engine off, until I got my order, and fired it back
> up, and immediately had heat.
>
> At the time, I turned the engine off, as I suspected a stuck
> thermostat, but later realized that the heater-core is always on the
> same loop as the engine as far as the coolant goes, so that couldn't
> be it. Any ideas? This is the first time this has happened, so I'll
> post more if it happens more.
>
> Any ideas?


If your thermostat is stuck open the engine won't make any heat.
Happened last winter in my `69 4L XJ.



Dave 12-03-2007 09:43 PM

Re: 98TJ Heat Issue
 
On Dec 3, 7:32 pm, "J. Clarke" <jclarke.use...@cox.net> wrote:
> DougW wrote:
> > Dave wrote:
> >> I'm looking for any ideas on this one, as it doesn't make much
> >> sense
> >> to me:'

>
> >> I drove to get lunch, and sitting in the drive-thru line, turned on
> >> the heat. It was probably around 10 degrees Fahrenheit with the
> >> wind-
> >> chill. The engine was about 3/4 warmed up, at which point, I should
> >> (and have in the past) feel some nice heat. . But, all I got was
> >> cold
> >> air. Very cold air. Heater controls all looked good, so I left it
> >> on,
> >> and sat there, until the needle was vertical, and still, cold air.

>
> >> So I turned the engine off, until I got my order, and fired it back
> >> up, and immediately had heat.

>
> >> At the time, I turned the engine off, as I suspected a stuck
> >> thermostat, but later realized that the heater-core is always on
> >> the
> >> same loop as the engine as far as the coolant goes, so that
> >> couldn't
> >> be it. Any ideas? This is the first time this has happened, so I'll
> >> post more if it happens more.

>
> >> Any ideas?

>
> > Always.... :)

>
> > Vac leak, possibly a cracked hardline or something that took a bit
> > of heat from the engine to soften up and be able to seal. I'd check
> > the hard lines running from the intake rail for splits or loose soft
> > connections.

>
> > Although, IIRC the blend door is a stepper motor. In that case low
> > vac would have just kept the output stuck to one setting.

>
> > If it's electrical or a stuck blend door (Guess if it got water
> > in there it could freeze the rubber seals and make the door stick)
> > Heat would then free it.

>
> > I'm out of ideas. :/

>
> Might have just gotten some water in it, frozen enough to stick the
> door, later the ice melted and problem solved.
>
> --
> --
> --John
> to email, dial "usenet" and validate
> (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)


Riiight :) The regular coolant change :) That would be a good idea.

On the way home from work, it seemed to heat up normally, but I
noticed a couple strange things that don't seem familiar.. when the
engine warmed up, the heat was warm, but not hot . . but when I was
moving, or even when I revved the engine, the heat would get hot. At
the same time, I also noticed that when at idle, when the heat was not
as hot, my oil pressure guage would creep up to about 40, and then
when I revved the engine and the heat got hotter, the oil-pressure
dropped back down to about 25 or so..

Multiple problems showing up here?

The frozen blend door is quite possible, as the entire jeep was
encased in 1/4" of ice on Saturday night, and then an entire day of
rain followed.. I will check the coolant, and keep an eye on the
situation, and report any other strangities that show up.

Thanks for the help guys!

Dave 12-03-2007 09:43 PM

Re: 98TJ Heat Issue
 
On Dec 3, 7:32 pm, "J. Clarke" <jclarke.use...@cox.net> wrote:
> DougW wrote:
> > Dave wrote:
> >> I'm looking for any ideas on this one, as it doesn't make much
> >> sense
> >> to me:'

>
> >> I drove to get lunch, and sitting in the drive-thru line, turned on
> >> the heat. It was probably around 10 degrees Fahrenheit with the
> >> wind-
> >> chill. The engine was about 3/4 warmed up, at which point, I should
> >> (and have in the past) feel some nice heat. . But, all I got was
> >> cold
> >> air. Very cold air. Heater controls all looked good, so I left it
> >> on,
> >> and sat there, until the needle was vertical, and still, cold air.

>
> >> So I turned the engine off, until I got my order, and fired it back
> >> up, and immediately had heat.

>
> >> At the time, I turned the engine off, as I suspected a stuck
> >> thermostat, but later realized that the heater-core is always on
> >> the
> >> same loop as the engine as far as the coolant goes, so that
> >> couldn't
> >> be it. Any ideas? This is the first time this has happened, so I'll
> >> post more if it happens more.

>
> >> Any ideas?

>
> > Always.... :)

>
> > Vac leak, possibly a cracked hardline or something that took a bit
> > of heat from the engine to soften up and be able to seal. I'd check
> > the hard lines running from the intake rail for splits or loose soft
> > connections.

>
> > Although, IIRC the blend door is a stepper motor. In that case low
> > vac would have just kept the output stuck to one setting.

>
> > If it's electrical or a stuck blend door (Guess if it got water
> > in there it could freeze the rubber seals and make the door stick)
> > Heat would then free it.

>
> > I'm out of ideas. :/

>
> Might have just gotten some water in it, frozen enough to stick the
> door, later the ice melted and problem solved.
>
> --
> --
> --John
> to email, dial "usenet" and validate
> (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)


Riiight :) The regular coolant change :) That would be a good idea.

On the way home from work, it seemed to heat up normally, but I
noticed a couple strange things that don't seem familiar.. when the
engine warmed up, the heat was warm, but not hot . . but when I was
moving, or even when I revved the engine, the heat would get hot. At
the same time, I also noticed that when at idle, when the heat was not
as hot, my oil pressure guage would creep up to about 40, and then
when I revved the engine and the heat got hotter, the oil-pressure
dropped back down to about 25 or so..

Multiple problems showing up here?

The frozen blend door is quite possible, as the entire jeep was
encased in 1/4" of ice on Saturday night, and then an entire day of
rain followed.. I will check the coolant, and keep an eye on the
situation, and report any other strangities that show up.

Thanks for the help guys!

Carl S 12-04-2007 12:12 AM

Re: 98TJ Heat Issue
 
Sounds like low coolant.

Carl

"Dave" <dmcglynn@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:f8385493-9484-4ad6-8ceb-ec8f2258b3d8@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 3, 7:32 pm, "J. Clarke" <jclarke.use...@cox.net> wrote:
>> DougW wrote:
>> > Dave wrote:
>> >> I'm looking for any ideas on this one, as it doesn't make much
>> >> sense
>> >> to me:'

>>
>> >> I drove to get lunch, and sitting in the drive-thru line, turned on
>> >> the heat. It was probably around 10 degrees Fahrenheit with the
>> >> wind-
>> >> chill. The engine was about 3/4 warmed up, at which point, I should
>> >> (and have in the past) feel some nice heat. . But, all I got was
>> >> cold
>> >> air. Very cold air. Heater controls all looked good, so I left it
>> >> on,
>> >> and sat there, until the needle was vertical, and still, cold air.

>>
>> >> So I turned the engine off, until I got my order, and fired it back
>> >> up, and immediately had heat.

>>
>> >> At the time, I turned the engine off, as I suspected a stuck
>> >> thermostat, but later realized that the heater-core is always on
>> >> the
>> >> same loop as the engine as far as the coolant goes, so that
>> >> couldn't
>> >> be it. Any ideas? This is the first time this has happened, so I'll
>> >> post more if it happens more.

>>
>> >> Any ideas?

>>
>> > Always.... :)

>>
>> > Vac leak, possibly a cracked hardline or something that took a bit
>> > of heat from the engine to soften up and be able to seal. I'd check
>> > the hard lines running from the intake rail for splits or loose soft
>> > connections.

>>
>> > Although, IIRC the blend door is a stepper motor. In that case low
>> > vac would have just kept the output stuck to one setting.

>>
>> > If it's electrical or a stuck blend door (Guess if it got water
>> > in there it could freeze the rubber seals and make the door stick)
>> > Heat would then free it.

>>
>> > I'm out of ideas. :/

>>
>> Might have just gotten some water in it, frozen enough to stick the
>> door, later the ice melted and problem solved.
>>
>> --
>> --
>> --John
>> to email, dial "usenet" and validate
>> (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

>
> Riiight :) The regular coolant change :) That would be a good idea.
>
> On the way home from work, it seemed to heat up normally, but I
> noticed a couple strange things that don't seem familiar.. when the
> engine warmed up, the heat was warm, but not hot . . but when I was
> moving, or even when I revved the engine, the heat would get hot. At
> the same time, I also noticed that when at idle, when the heat was not
> as hot, my oil pressure guage would creep up to about 40, and then
> when I revved the engine and the heat got hotter, the oil-pressure
> dropped back down to about 25 or so..
>
> Multiple problems showing up here?
>
> The frozen blend door is quite possible, as the entire jeep was
> encased in 1/4" of ice on Saturday night, and then an entire day of
> rain followed.. I will check the coolant, and keep an eye on the
> situation, and report any other strangities that show up.
>
> Thanks for the help guys!




Carl S 12-04-2007 12:12 AM

Re: 98TJ Heat Issue
 
Sounds like low coolant.

Carl

"Dave" <dmcglynn@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:f8385493-9484-4ad6-8ceb-ec8f2258b3d8@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 3, 7:32 pm, "J. Clarke" <jclarke.use...@cox.net> wrote:
>> DougW wrote:
>> > Dave wrote:
>> >> I'm looking for any ideas on this one, as it doesn't make much
>> >> sense
>> >> to me:'

>>
>> >> I drove to get lunch, and sitting in the drive-thru line, turned on
>> >> the heat. It was probably around 10 degrees Fahrenheit with the
>> >> wind-
>> >> chill. The engine was about 3/4 warmed up, at which point, I should
>> >> (and have in the past) feel some nice heat. . But, all I got was
>> >> cold
>> >> air. Very cold air. Heater controls all looked good, so I left it
>> >> on,
>> >> and sat there, until the needle was vertical, and still, cold air.

>>
>> >> So I turned the engine off, until I got my order, and fired it back
>> >> up, and immediately had heat.

>>
>> >> At the time, I turned the engine off, as I suspected a stuck
>> >> thermostat, but later realized that the heater-core is always on
>> >> the
>> >> same loop as the engine as far as the coolant goes, so that
>> >> couldn't
>> >> be it. Any ideas? This is the first time this has happened, so I'll
>> >> post more if it happens more.

>>
>> >> Any ideas?

>>
>> > Always.... :)

>>
>> > Vac leak, possibly a cracked hardline or something that took a bit
>> > of heat from the engine to soften up and be able to seal. I'd check
>> > the hard lines running from the intake rail for splits or loose soft
>> > connections.

>>
>> > Although, IIRC the blend door is a stepper motor. In that case low
>> > vac would have just kept the output stuck to one setting.

>>
>> > If it's electrical or a stuck blend door (Guess if it got water
>> > in there it could freeze the rubber seals and make the door stick)
>> > Heat would then free it.

>>
>> > I'm out of ideas. :/

>>
>> Might have just gotten some water in it, frozen enough to stick the
>> door, later the ice melted and problem solved.
>>
>> --
>> --
>> --John
>> to email, dial "usenet" and validate
>> (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

>
> Riiight :) The regular coolant change :) That would be a good idea.
>
> On the way home from work, it seemed to heat up normally, but I
> noticed a couple strange things that don't seem familiar.. when the
> engine warmed up, the heat was warm, but not hot . . but when I was
> moving, or even when I revved the engine, the heat would get hot. At
> the same time, I also noticed that when at idle, when the heat was not
> as hot, my oil pressure guage would creep up to about 40, and then
> when I revved the engine and the heat got hotter, the oil-pressure
> dropped back down to about 25 or so..
>
> Multiple problems showing up here?
>
> The frozen blend door is quite possible, as the entire jeep was
> encased in 1/4" of ice on Saturday night, and then an entire day of
> rain followed.. I will check the coolant, and keep an eye on the
> situation, and report any other strangities that show up.
>
> Thanks for the help guys!




Terry Dactille©~® 12-04-2007 11:11 AM

Re: 98TJ Heat Issue
 
On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 16:48:46 -0800, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<----------@----------.com> wrote:

>Hi Dave,
> Check the coolant level at the radiator, cold. Many times an air pock
>may fill the theater core. Those dried deposits should be back flushed out,
>every two years alone with the coolant regular change.
> Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:----------@----------.com


Is that a Home Theater Two Cell??



Still waiting for the Facts to your allegations, don't see any just your usual -------- posts.

Terry Dactille©~® 12-04-2007 11:11 AM

Re: 98TJ Heat Issue
 
On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 16:48:46 -0800, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<----------@----------.com> wrote:

>Hi Dave,
> Check the coolant level at the radiator, cold. Many times an air pock
>may fill the theater core. Those dried deposits should be back flushed out,
>every two years alone with the coolant regular change.
> Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:----------@----------.com


Is that a Home Theater Two Cell??



Still waiting for the Facts to your allegations, don't see any just your usual -------- posts.

L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 12-04-2007 06:20 PM

Re: 98TJ Heat Issue
 
There you go again, the little Psychopath, jealous, REALLY JEALOUS,
over the fact that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents,
possessions, successes, manliness, Super Southern California surfer body,
Christian family, and name. What a jealous little draft dodging senile
coward from 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT, Mediacom
Communications Corp MEDIACOMCC-12-205-156-0-GULF-BREEZE-Florida, that of
course, I killed, now it's 12-202-247-159.client.mchsi.com New Albany,
Indiana asylum. now's it's back in 12-202-247-159.client.mchsi.com Navarre,
Florida: http://----------.com/temp/24wimp.jpg IP: 66.98.244.52 It doesn't
have a DD214, it had to have served our country for that. Who's only way to
get attention is to make a fool of its self, with its goat obsession/fetish,
where it writes via remailers, to no one's surprise. Like when the other
kids laughed at its attempt to use foul language in elementary school play
grounds, but its just gibberish. Too senile to remember what he last wrote,
like the rest of Florida. You remind me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican
Chihuahua with its senseless barking it's rabid head off, me too, me too.
And is too afraid to use your name, address, or even sign your statement as
any man would, totally worthless!
Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
As a member of the moral majority I know what ---- is when I see it!
But now worth the time to forward this low life to: abuse@mchsi.com,
fraud@mchsi.com, fraud@4AX.COM, abuse@aioe.org, admin@cox.net,
abuse@teranews.com for forgery.
I thought your attacks were just personal disagreements, but with
passing of my country's Independents Day, I realize these attacks are
stemming from my love of God and America, and that's what you've been doing
all along is declaring your hatred for the United States of America, with
each declaration of my signature, but just too cowardly to be a ---------.
It's America, love it, or leave it, so get the f*ck out!
Considering the source, which you're a habitual lair, so these plus your
other accusations would be thrown out of court.
When are you going to take responsibility for yourself, and become a
man??????????
People that follow astrology, know the traits you have listed are a
hundred eighty out from any Capricorn.
Forwarded to: alt.binaries.pictures.autos, alt.binaries.automobile.pictures
groups so they may to see what an a**hole you really are!!!!!
Is this what your Psychologist wrote about you? They don't fit any
Capricorn, sounds like a spoil Leo.
You're a LIAR and never been in the Service much less Vietnam, as you
suggest!!!!!
Why don't you call my friends at the San Diego Sheriffs Department at
858-974-2020, maybe under the pretense of my CCW permit, they're waiting for
you. AS YOU NEED HELP!
I'm just really curious as to who you think will believe you over any
man responsible enough to list his name and address here and in every place
I know of????? All you can do is lie, as most everything you have said
contradicts it's self.
You know what they say, once a ------ coward, always a ------ coward.
I won't give up until traitors like you are gone from these groups I
participate and see you've pretty well killed this group I will devote my
life to reminding your groups who you are!!!!!!!
I would appreciate the name and address of these trolls, Square Wheel:
S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251 intrepidator@shaw.ca and
24bit:
12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT Mediacom Communications Corp. I
will keep your name in confidence, kindly email -------------------- or
LW------@------.net
Sincerely,
Llewellyn W. (Bill) ------ III
You're not fooling anyone, ------! You need to get back in the hospital
before you hurt yourself or someone else.
Oh, and thanks for keeping my fight against troll/faggots like you at
the top of your groups! :-)
The only reason you write me is to try to put down my friends and my
Lord Jesus Christ. Well try as you may you're not strong enough for that,
coward.
BTW I put up a couple more of my friends cars for you to be jealous of.
:-)
I happen to know you've been locked in a rubber room, laced in a
straight jacket. Time for lights out at your insane asylum again.
Fortunately it is against the law for you to own a firearm.
There you go with that psychopathic goat obsession/fetish, that only
faggots like would think of.
That's what I've said, it's common knowledge you're a schizophrenic
------.
Hehehe I've got your user name blocked over at: Motzarella, COX, and
soon the world of servers.
What are you babbling about?????
And you think the news members won't recognize your girlie writing, and
see your user names, as fake as you.
I used to pity retarded people like you, now you just make me
laugh!!!!!!
You pathetic little schizophrenic psychopath, you make me laugh the way
a girlie, ------ writes, it gives me a feeling of extreme superiority!
<ROTFLMAO>
More jealous foul mouth girlie maricón acosador gibberish/babbling.
My service is well documented at: http://www.----------.com/ARMY.htm It
is you that has the dishonorable discharge, you're a coward. Thanks 24wimp
for the reply, so as I may forward it to your ------ groups.
I repeat: You have never been in the service, much less Vietnam!!!!!!!
What a lying coward!!!!!!!
24wimp, do you really think the news members won't catch on and
recognize your babbling on mchsi, Road Runner, news.alt.net, Newsguy
remailers, as you, the coward fag using fake names, as queer as you?
I'm just really curious as to who you think will believe your lies over
any responsible man, man enough as me, to list my name and address here, and
in every place I can think of?????
Come on out here little ------ and I'll treat you like a King:
http://www.----------.com/map.htm
Hehehe, keep'em coming. :-) Maybe, a little more language, and your
pornography in an original post, coward.
I'm still waiting for your real name and address like any man would
list.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:----------@----------.com


"Terry Dactille©~®" <pterry@jurassholle_pork.org> wrote in message
news:nvpal31ul4ajemvuoed7q0o4t79j869j2o@4ax.com...
>
> Is that a Home Theater Two Cell??
>
>
>
> Still waiting for the Facts to your allegations, don't see any just your

usual -------- posts.





L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 12-04-2007 06:20 PM

Re: 98TJ Heat Issue
 
There you go again, the little Psychopath, jealous, REALLY JEALOUS,
over the fact that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents,
possessions, successes, manliness, Super Southern California surfer body,
Christian family, and name. What a jealous little draft dodging senile
coward from 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT, Mediacom
Communications Corp MEDIACOMCC-12-205-156-0-GULF-BREEZE-Florida, that of
course, I killed, now it's 12-202-247-159.client.mchsi.com New Albany,
Indiana asylum. now's it's back in 12-202-247-159.client.mchsi.com Navarre,
Florida: http://----------.com/temp/24wimp.jpg IP: 66.98.244.52 It doesn't
have a DD214, it had to have served our country for that. Who's only way to
get attention is to make a fool of its self, with its goat obsession/fetish,
where it writes via remailers, to no one's surprise. Like when the other
kids laughed at its attempt to use foul language in elementary school play
grounds, but its just gibberish. Too senile to remember what he last wrote,
like the rest of Florida. You remind me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican
Chihuahua with its senseless barking it's rabid head off, me too, me too.
And is too afraid to use your name, address, or even sign your statement as
any man would, totally worthless!
Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
As a member of the moral majority I know what ---- is when I see it!
But now worth the time to forward this low life to: abuse@mchsi.com,
fraud@mchsi.com, fraud@4AX.COM, abuse@aioe.org, admin@cox.net,
abuse@teranews.com for forgery.
I thought your attacks were just personal disagreements, but with
passing of my country's Independents Day, I realize these attacks are
stemming from my love of God and America, and that's what you've been doing
all along is declaring your hatred for the United States of America, with
each declaration of my signature, but just too cowardly to be a ---------.
It's America, love it, or leave it, so get the f*ck out!
Considering the source, which you're a habitual lair, so these plus your
other accusations would be thrown out of court.
When are you going to take responsibility for yourself, and become a
man??????????
People that follow astrology, know the traits you have listed are a
hundred eighty out from any Capricorn.
Forwarded to: alt.binaries.pictures.autos, alt.binaries.automobile.pictures
groups so they may to see what an a**hole you really are!!!!!
Is this what your Psychologist wrote about you? They don't fit any
Capricorn, sounds like a spoil Leo.
You're a LIAR and never been in the Service much less Vietnam, as you
suggest!!!!!
Why don't you call my friends at the San Diego Sheriffs Department at
858-974-2020, maybe under the pretense of my CCW permit, they're waiting for
you. AS YOU NEED HELP!
I'm just really curious as to who you think will believe you over any
man responsible enough to list his name and address here and in every place
I know of????? All you can do is lie, as most everything you have said
contradicts it's self.
You know what they say, once a ------ coward, always a ------ coward.
I won't give up until traitors like you are gone from these groups I
participate and see you've pretty well killed this group I will devote my
life to reminding your groups who you are!!!!!!!
I would appreciate the name and address of these trolls, Square Wheel:
S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251 intrepidator@shaw.ca and
24bit:
12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT Mediacom Communications Corp. I
will keep your name in confidence, kindly email -------------------- or
LW------@------.net
Sincerely,
Llewellyn W. (Bill) ------ III
You're not fooling anyone, ------! You need to get back in the hospital
before you hurt yourself or someone else.
Oh, and thanks for keeping my fight against troll/faggots like you at
the top of your groups! :-)
The only reason you write me is to try to put down my friends and my
Lord Jesus Christ. Well try as you may you're not strong enough for that,
coward.
BTW I put up a couple more of my friends cars for you to be jealous of.
:-)
I happen to know you've been locked in a rubber room, laced in a
straight jacket. Time for lights out at your insane asylum again.
Fortunately it is against the law for you to own a firearm.
There you go with that psychopathic goat obsession/fetish, that only
faggots like would think of.
That's what I've said, it's common knowledge you're a schizophrenic
------.
Hehehe I've got your user name blocked over at: Motzarella, COX, and
soon the world of servers.
What are you babbling about?????
And you think the news members won't recognize your girlie writing, and
see your user names, as fake as you.
I used to pity retarded people like you, now you just make me
laugh!!!!!!
You pathetic little schizophrenic psychopath, you make me laugh the way
a girlie, ------ writes, it gives me a feeling of extreme superiority!
<ROTFLMAO>
More jealous foul mouth girlie maricón acosador gibberish/babbling.
My service is well documented at: http://www.----------.com/ARMY.htm It
is you that has the dishonorable discharge, you're a coward. Thanks 24wimp
for the reply, so as I may forward it to your ------ groups.
I repeat: You have never been in the service, much less Vietnam!!!!!!!
What a lying coward!!!!!!!
24wimp, do you really think the news members won't catch on and
recognize your babbling on mchsi, Road Runner, news.alt.net, Newsguy
remailers, as you, the coward fag using fake names, as queer as you?
I'm just really curious as to who you think will believe your lies over
any responsible man, man enough as me, to list my name and address here, and
in every place I can think of?????
Come on out here little ------ and I'll treat you like a King:
http://www.----------.com/map.htm
Hehehe, keep'em coming. :-) Maybe, a little more language, and your
pornography in an original post, coward.
I'm still waiting for your real name and address like any man would
list.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:----------@----------.com


"Terry Dactille©~®" <pterry@jurassholle_pork.org> wrote in message
news:nvpal31ul4ajemvuoed7q0o4t79j869j2o@4ax.com...
>
> Is that a Home Theater Two Cell??
>
>
>
> Still waiting for the Facts to your allegations, don't see any just your

usual -------- posts.





Terry Dactille©~® 12-04-2007 06:56 PM

Re: 98TJ Heat Issue
 
On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 15:20:23 -0800, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<----------@----------.com> wrote:


> I'm still waiting for your real name and address like any man would
>list.
> Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:----------@----------.com


I'm still waiting for your ticket conformation to FL, which will never
happen, because you're not a real man & a LIAR!
>
>
>"Terry Dactille©~®" <pterry@jurassholle_pork.org> wrote in message
>news:nvpal31ul4ajemvuoed7q0o4t79j869j2o@4ax.com.. .
>>
>> Is that a Home Theater Two Cell??
>>
>>
>>
>> Still waiting for the Facts to your allegations, don't see any just your

>usual -------- posts.
>
>
>




Still waiting for the Facts to your allegations, don't see any just your usual -------- posts.

Terry Dactille©~® 12-04-2007 06:56 PM

Re: 98TJ Heat Issue
 
On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 15:20:23 -0800, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<----------@----------.com> wrote:


> I'm still waiting for your real name and address like any man would
>list.
> Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:----------@----------.com


I'm still waiting for your ticket conformation to FL, which will never
happen, because you're not a real man & a LIAR!
>
>
>"Terry Dactille©~®" <pterry@jurassholle_pork.org> wrote in message
>news:nvpal31ul4ajemvuoed7q0o4t79j869j2o@4ax.com.. .
>>
>> Is that a Home Theater Two Cell??
>>
>>
>>
>> Still waiting for the Facts to your allegations, don't see any just your

>usual -------- posts.
>
>
>




Still waiting for the Facts to your allegations, don't see any just your usual -------- posts.

L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 12-04-2007 07:20 PM

Re: 98TJ Heat Issue
 
There you go again, the little Psychopath, jealous, REALLY JEALOUS,
over the fact that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents,
possessions, successes, manliness, Super Southern California surfer body,
Christian family, and name. What a jealous little draft dodging senile
coward from 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT, Mediacom
Communications Corp MEDIACOMCC-12-205-156-0-GULF-BREEZE-Florida, that of
course, I killed, now it's 12-202-247-159.client.mchsi.com New Albany,
Indiana asylum. now's it's back in 12-202-247-159.client.mchsi.com Navarre,
Florida: http://----------.com/temp/24wimp.jpg IP: 66.98.244.52 It doesn't
have a DD214, it had to have served our country for that. Who's only way to
get attention is to make a fool of its self, with its goat obsession/fetish,
where it writes via remailers, to no one's surprise. Like when the other
kids laughed at its attempt to use foul language in elementary school play
grounds, but its just gibberish. Too senile to remember what he last wrote,
like the rest of Florida. You remind me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican
Chihuahua with its senseless barking it's rabid head off, me too, me too.
And is too afraid to use your name, address, or even sign your statement as
any man would, totally worthless!
Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
As a member of the moral majority I know what ---- is when I see it!
But now worth the time to forward this low life to: abuse@mchsi.com,
fraud@mchsi.com, fraud@4AX.COM, abuse@aioe.org, admin@cox.net,
abuse@teranews.com for forgery.
I thought your attacks were just personal disagreements, but with
passing of my country's Independents Day, I realize these attacks are
stemming from my love of God and America, and that's what you've been doing
all along is declaring your hatred for the United States of America, with
each declaration of my signature, but just too cowardly to be a ---------.
It's America, love it, or leave it, so get the f*ck out!
Considering the source, which you're a habitual lair, so these plus your
other accusations would be thrown out of court.
When are you going to take responsibility for yourself, and become a
man??????????
People that follow astrology, know the traits you have listed are a
hundred eighty out from any Capricorn.
Forwarded to: alt.binaries.pictures.autos, alt.binaries.automobile.pictures
groups so they may to see what an a**hole you really are!!!!!
Is this what your Psychologist wrote about you? They don't fit any
Capricorn, sounds like a spoil Leo.
You're a LIAR and never been in the Service much less Vietnam, as you
suggest!!!!!
Why don't you call my friends at the San Diego Sheriffs Department at
858-974-2020, maybe under the pretense of my CCW permit, they're waiting for
you. AS YOU NEED HELP!
I'm just really curious as to who you think will believe you over any
man responsible enough to list his name and address here and in every place
I know of????? All you can do is lie, as most everything you have said
contradicts it's self.
You know what they say, once a ------ coward, always a ------ coward.
I won't give up until traitors like you are gone from these groups I
participate and see you've pretty well killed this group I will devote my
life to reminding your groups who you are!!!!!!!
I would appreciate the name and address of these trolls, Square Wheel:
S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251 intrepidator@shaw.ca and
24bit:
12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT Mediacom Communications Corp. I
will keep your name in confidence, kindly email -------------------- or
LW------@------.net
Sincerely,
Llewellyn W. (Bill) ------ III
You're not fooling anyone, ------! You need to get back in the hospital
before you hurt yourself or someone else.
Oh, and thanks for keeping my fight against troll/faggots like you at
the top of your groups! :-)
The only reason you write me is to try to put down my friends and my
Lord Jesus Christ. Well try as you may you're not strong enough for that,
coward.
BTW I put up a couple more of my friends cars for you to be jealous of.
:-)
I happen to know you've been locked in a rubber room, laced in a
straight jacket. Time for lights out at your insane asylum again.
Fortunately it is against the law for you to own a firearm.
There you go with that psychopathic goat obsession/fetish, that only
faggots like would think of.
That's what I've said, it's common knowledge you're a schizophrenic
------.
Hehehe I've got your user name blocked over at: Motzarella, COX, and
soon the world of servers.
What are you babbling about?????
And you think the news members won't recognize your girlie writing, and
see your user names, as fake as you.
I used to pity retarded people like you, now you just make me
laugh!!!!!!
You pathetic little schizophrenic psychopath, you make me laugh the way
a girlie, ------ writes, it gives me a feeling of extreme superiority!
<ROTFLMAO>
More jealous foul mouth girlie maricón acosador gibberish/babbling.
My service is well documented at: http://www.----------.com/ARMY.htm It
is you that has the dishonorable discharge, you're a coward. Thanks 24wimp
for the reply, so as I may forward it to your ------ groups.
I repeat: You have never been in the service, much less Vietnam!!!!!!!
What a lying coward!!!!!!!
24wimp, do you really think the news members won't catch on and
recognize your babbling on mchsi, Road Runner, news.alt.net, Newsguy
remailers, as you, the coward fag using fake names, as queer as you?
I'm just really curious as to who you think will believe your lies over
any responsible man, man enough as me, to list my name and address here, and
in every place I can think of?????
Come on out here little ------ and I'll treat you like a King:
http://www.----------.com/map.htm
Hehehe, keep'em coming. :-) Maybe, a little more language, and your
pornography in an original post, coward
I'm still waiting for your real name and address like any man would
list. But then you're a coward.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:----------@----------.com


"Terry Dactille©~®" <pterry@jurassholle_pork.org> wrote in message
news:rhpbl31vo8q8qvsnu5q6dglp2fbctbuciq@4ax.com...
>
> I'm still waiting for your ticket conformation to FL, which will never
> happen, because you're not a real man & a LIAR!
>






L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 12-04-2007 07:20 PM

Re: 98TJ Heat Issue
 
There you go again, the little Psychopath, jealous, REALLY JEALOUS,
over the fact that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents,
possessions, successes, manliness, Super Southern California surfer body,
Christian family, and name. What a jealous little draft dodging senile
coward from 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT, Mediacom
Communications Corp MEDIACOMCC-12-205-156-0-GULF-BREEZE-Florida, that of
course, I killed, now it's 12-202-247-159.client.mchsi.com New Albany,
Indiana asylum. now's it's back in 12-202-247-159.client.mchsi.com Navarre,
Florida: http://----------.com/temp/24wimp.jpg IP: 66.98.244.52 It doesn't
have a DD214, it had to have served our country for that. Who's only way to
get attention is to make a fool of its self, with its goat obsession/fetish,
where it writes via remailers, to no one's surprise. Like when the other
kids laughed at its attempt to use foul language in elementary school play
grounds, but its just gibberish. Too senile to remember what he last wrote,
like the rest of Florida. You remind me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican
Chihuahua with its senseless barking it's rabid head off, me too, me too.
And is too afraid to use your name, address, or even sign your statement as
any man would, totally worthless!
Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
As a member of the moral majority I know what ---- is when I see it!
But now worth the time to forward this low life to: abuse@mchsi.com,
fraud@mchsi.com, fraud@4AX.COM, abuse@aioe.org, admin@cox.net,
abuse@teranews.com for forgery.
I thought your attacks were just personal disagreements, but with
passing of my country's Independents Day, I realize these attacks are
stemming from my love of God and America, and that's what you've been doing
all along is declaring your hatred for the United States of America, with
each declaration of my signature, but just too cowardly to be a ---------.
It's America, love it, or leave it, so get the f*ck out!
Considering the source, which you're a habitual lair, so these plus your
other accusations would be thrown out of court.
When are you going to take responsibility for yourself, and become a
man??????????
People that follow astrology, know the traits you have listed are a
hundred eighty out from any Capricorn.
Forwarded to: alt.binaries.pictures.autos, alt.binaries.automobile.pictures
groups so they may to see what an a**hole you really are!!!!!
Is this what your Psychologist wrote about you? They don't fit any
Capricorn, sounds like a spoil Leo.
You're a LIAR and never been in the Service much less Vietnam, as you
suggest!!!!!
Why don't you call my friends at the San Diego Sheriffs Department at
858-974-2020, maybe under the pretense of my CCW permit, they're waiting for
you. AS YOU NEED HELP!
I'm just really curious as to who you think will believe you over any
man responsible enough to list his name and address here and in every place
I know of????? All you can do is lie, as most everything you have said
contradicts it's self.
You know what they say, once a ------ coward, always a ------ coward.
I won't give up until traitors like you are gone from these groups I
participate and see you've pretty well killed this group I will devote my
life to reminding your groups who you are!!!!!!!
I would appreciate the name and address of these trolls, Square Wheel:
S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251 intrepidator@shaw.ca and
24bit:
12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT Mediacom Communications Corp. I
will keep your name in confidence, kindly email -------------------- or
LW------@------.net
Sincerely,
Llewellyn W. (Bill) ------ III
You're not fooling anyone, ------! You need to get back in the hospital
before you hurt yourself or someone else.
Oh, and thanks for keeping my fight against troll/faggots like you at
the top of your groups! :-)
The only reason you write me is to try to put down my friends and my
Lord Jesus Christ. Well try as you may you're not strong enough for that,
coward.
BTW I put up a couple more of my friends cars for you to be jealous of.
:-)
I happen to know you've been locked in a rubber room, laced in a
straight jacket. Time for lights out at your insane asylum again.
Fortunately it is against the law for you to own a firearm.
There you go with that psychopathic goat obsession/fetish, that only
faggots like would think of.
That's what I've said, it's common knowledge you're a schizophrenic
------.
Hehehe I've got your user name blocked over at: Motzarella, COX, and
soon the world of servers.
What are you babbling about?????
And you think the news members won't recognize your girlie writing, and
see your user names, as fake as you.
I used to pity retarded people like you, now you just make me
laugh!!!!!!
You pathetic little schizophrenic psychopath, you make me laugh the way
a girlie, ------ writes, it gives me a feeling of extreme superiority!
<ROTFLMAO>
More jealous foul mouth girlie maricón acosador gibberish/babbling.
My service is well documented at: http://www.----------.com/ARMY.htm It
is you that has the dishonorable discharge, you're a coward. Thanks 24wimp
for the reply, so as I may forward it to your ------ groups.
I repeat: You have never been in the service, much less Vietnam!!!!!!!
What a lying coward!!!!!!!
24wimp, do you really think the news members won't catch on and
recognize your babbling on mchsi, Road Runner, news.alt.net, Newsguy
remailers, as you, the coward fag using fake names, as queer as you?
I'm just really curious as to who you think will believe your lies over
any responsible man, man enough as me, to list my name and address here, and
in every place I can think of?????
Come on out here little ------ and I'll treat you like a King:
http://www.----------.com/map.htm
Hehehe, keep'em coming. :-) Maybe, a little more language, and your
pornography in an original post, coward
I'm still waiting for your real name and address like any man would
list. But then you're a coward.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:----------@----------.com


"Terry Dactille©~®" <pterry@jurassholle_pork.org> wrote in message
news:rhpbl31vo8q8qvsnu5q6dglp2fbctbuciq@4ax.com...
>
> I'm still waiting for your ticket conformation to FL, which will never
> happen, because you're not a real man & a LIAR!
>






Lee Ayrton 12-04-2007 10:13 PM

Re: 98TJ Heat Issue
 
On Mon, 3 Dec 2007, Lee Ayrton wrote:

>> At the time, I turned the engine off, as I suspected a stuck
>> thermostat, but later realized that the heater-core is always on the
>> same loop as the engine as far as the coolant goes, so that couldn't
>> be it. Any ideas? This is the first time this has happened, so I'll
>> post more if it happens more.
>>
>> Any ideas?

>
> If your thermostat is stuck open the engine won't make any heat. Happened
> last winter in my `69 4L XJ.




Fatfingered. `96 XJ

Lee Ayrton 12-04-2007 10:13 PM

Re: 98TJ Heat Issue
 
On Mon, 3 Dec 2007, Lee Ayrton wrote:

>> At the time, I turned the engine off, as I suspected a stuck
>> thermostat, but later realized that the heater-core is always on the
>> same loop as the engine as far as the coolant goes, so that couldn't
>> be it. Any ideas? This is the first time this has happened, so I'll
>> post more if it happens more.
>>
>> Any ideas?

>
> If your thermostat is stuck open the engine won't make any heat. Happened
> last winter in my `69 4L XJ.




Fatfingered. `96 XJ


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