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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 09-17-2007 08:19 PM

Re: 97 TJ - shimmy when braking
 
There you go again, the little Psychopath, jealous, REALLY JEALOUS,
over the fact that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents,
possessions, successes, manliness, Super Southern California surfer body,
Christian family, and name. What a jealous little draft dodging senile
coward from 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT, Mediacom
Communications Corp MEDIACOMCC-12-205-156-0-GULF-BREEZE-Florida, that of
course, doesn't have a DD214, it had to have served our country for that.
Who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its self, with its goat
obsession/fetish, where it writes via remailers, to no one's surprise. Like
when the other kids laughed at its attempt to use foul language in
elementary school play grounds, but its just gibberish. Too senile to
remember what he last wrote, like the rest of Florida. You remind me of a
little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking it's rabid
head off, me too, me too. And is too afraid to use your name, address, or
even sign your statement as any man would, totally worthless!
Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
As a member of the moral majority I know what ---- is when I see it!
But now worth the time to forward this low life to: abuse@mchsi.com,
fraud@mchsi.com, fraud@4AX.COM, abuse@aioe.org, admin@cox.net,
abuse@teranews.com for forgery.
I thought your attacks were just personal disagreements, but with
passing of my country's Independents Day, I realize these attacks are
stemming from my love of God and America, and that's what you've been doing
all along is declaring your hatred for the United States of America, with
each declaration of my signature, but just too cowardly to be a ---------.
It's America, love it, or leave it, so get the f*ck out!
Considering the source, which you're a habitual lair, so these plus your
other accusations would be thrown out of court.
When are you going to take responsibility for yourself, and become a
man??????????
People that follow astrology, know the traits you have listed are a
hundred eighty out from any Capricorn.
Forwarded to: alt.binaries.pictures.autos, alt.binaries.automobile.pictures
groups so they may to see what an a**hole you really are!!!!!
Is this what your Psychologist wrote about you? They don't fit any
Capricorn, sounds like a spoil Leo.
You're a LIAR and never been in the Service much less Vietnam, as you
suggest!!!!!
If you think I'm a Psycho, then report me to my friends at the San Diego
Sheriffs Department.
I'm just really curious as to who you think will believe you over any
man responsible enough to list his name and address here and in every place
I know of????? All you can do is lie, as most everything you have said
contradicts it's self.
You know what they say, once a ------ coward, always a ------ coward.
I won't give up until traitors like you are gone from these groups I
participate and see you've pretty well killed this group I will devote my
life to reminding your groups who you are!!!!!!!
I would appreciate the name and address of these trolls, Square Wheel:
S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251 intrepidator@shaw.ca and
24bit:
12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT Mediacom Communications Corp. I
will keep your name in confidence, kindly email -------------------- or
LW------@------.net
Sincerely,
Llewellyn W. (Bill) ------ III
You're not fooling anyone, ------!!!!!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"24BitŪ" <24Bit@Ur.Asylm.org> wrote in message
news:qe0ue3hmhgvt9f1hps5chrun7rantb0q5k@4ax.com
>
> You are without a doubt a real case,a completely wacked out Psychopath
> ----wad, who doesn't know the difference between his ass or -----,
> why don't you just die and get it over with, no one will miss you, not
> even your dog.
>
> Go pray to your god,
>
>
>
> The lord that the Psychopath Llewellyn W. (Bill) ------ III worships:
>
> Abaddon, Accuser of our brethren, Adversary, Angel of Light,
> Antichrist, Angel of the bottomless pit, Antichrist, Apollyon,
> Beelzebub, Belial, Crooked serpent, Devil, Enemy,Dragon,
> Father of lies, God of this World, Leviathan, Liar, Lucifer,
> Lying spirit, Murderer, Old serpent, Piercing serpent, Power of
> darkness,Prince of the devils, Prince of the power of the air,
> Roaring lion, Prince of this world, Ruler of this world, Satan,
> Serpent, Swine,Son of the Morning, Spirit who now works in
> the sons of disobedience, Tempter, Unclean spirit, Wicked one.




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jbjeep 09-17-2007 09:34 PM

Re: 97 TJ - shimmy when braking
 
That probably was meant to read "dont turn the stock rotors". they are a piece of
$%&#. Get new aftermarket rotors if they are warped.
-jenn



On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 19:04:19 -0500, d <wtaminut@hotmail.com> wrote:

>>On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 16:46:10 -0500, "DougW"
>><I.only.read.usenet@invalid.address> wrote:
>>>
>>>I'd suspect warped rotors.
>>>
>>>Don't let any shop talk you into turning them.
>>>(actually, if they do, you should find a new shop.)
>>>The rotors will simply warp again.
>>>
>>>

>>Don't turn the rotors??????
>>How would you suggest to get them straight again?
>>Turning also gets rid of the "hard spots" caused from heat when
>>braking. Just make sure whoever turns them is bright enough to measure
>>rotor thickness.


jbjeep 09-17-2007 09:34 PM

Re: 97 TJ - shimmy when braking
 
That probably was meant to read "dont turn the stock rotors". they are a piece of
$%&#. Get new aftermarket rotors if they are warped.
-jenn



On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 19:04:19 -0500, d <wtaminut@hotmail.com> wrote:

>>On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 16:46:10 -0500, "DougW"
>><I.only.read.usenet@invalid.address> wrote:
>>>
>>>I'd suspect warped rotors.
>>>
>>>Don't let any shop talk you into turning them.
>>>(actually, if they do, you should find a new shop.)
>>>The rotors will simply warp again.
>>>
>>>

>>Don't turn the rotors??????
>>How would you suggest to get them straight again?
>>Turning also gets rid of the "hard spots" caused from heat when
>>braking. Just make sure whoever turns them is bright enough to measure
>>rotor thickness.


jbjeep 09-17-2007 09:34 PM

Re: 97 TJ - shimmy when braking
 
That probably was meant to read "dont turn the stock rotors". they are a piece of
$%&#. Get new aftermarket rotors if they are warped.
-jenn



On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 19:04:19 -0500, d <wtaminut@hotmail.com> wrote:

>>On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 16:46:10 -0500, "DougW"
>><I.only.read.usenet@invalid.address> wrote:
>>>
>>>I'd suspect warped rotors.
>>>
>>>Don't let any shop talk you into turning them.
>>>(actually, if they do, you should find a new shop.)
>>>The rotors will simply warp again.
>>>
>>>

>>Don't turn the rotors??????
>>How would you suggest to get them straight again?
>>Turning also gets rid of the "hard spots" caused from heat when
>>braking. Just make sure whoever turns them is bright enough to measure
>>rotor thickness.


jbjeep 09-17-2007 09:34 PM

Re: 97 TJ - shimmy when braking
 
That probably was meant to read "dont turn the stock rotors". they are a piece of
$%&#. Get new aftermarket rotors if they are warped.
-jenn



On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 19:04:19 -0500, d <wtaminut@hotmail.com> wrote:

>>On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 16:46:10 -0500, "DougW"
>><I.only.read.usenet@invalid.address> wrote:
>>>
>>>I'd suspect warped rotors.
>>>
>>>Don't let any shop talk you into turning them.
>>>(actually, if they do, you should find a new shop.)
>>>The rotors will simply warp again.
>>>
>>>

>>Don't turn the rotors??????
>>How would you suggest to get them straight again?
>>Turning also gets rid of the "hard spots" caused from heat when
>>braking. Just make sure whoever turns them is bright enough to measure
>>rotor thickness.


DougW 09-17-2007 11:44 PM

Re: 97 TJ - shimmy when braking
 
jbjeep wrote:
> That probably was meant to read "dont turn the stock rotors". they
> are a piece of $%&#. Get new aftermarket rotors if they are warped.


With stock, absolutly. With aftermarket it depends on how bad the
warp is. Turning just flattens them out, it does nothing for the root
cause of warping which is a change in one part of the rotors metal.
A badly warped rotor can simply not be turned flat. To restore a
badly warped rotor require heat treating to relive the stress, then turning.

> <wtaminut> wrote:
>
>>> "DougW" wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'd suspect warped rotors.
>>>>
>>>> Don't let any shop talk you into turning them.
>>>> (actually, if they do, you should find a new shop.)
>>>> The rotors will simply warp again.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Don't turn the rotors??????
>>> How would you suggest to get them straight again?
>>> Turning also gets rid of the "hard spots" caused from heat when
>>> braking. Just make sure whoever turns them is bright enough to
>>> measure rotor thickness.



As for getting the rotors straight again I suggest new rotors of
better that the $#$% OEM and a proper brake-in (pun intended) procedure.
There are no "hard spots" from normal braking providing the rotors have
been properly broken in. Riding a new set of brakes hard then sitting
at a stoplight with the brakes applied is the surest way to cause heat
soak and a warped rotor. I have ran my brakes exceptionally hard, cherry
red in some cases, and have had zero warpage.

Turning is mainly done to correct any surface issues or "lip" that forms
on the disc. For the most part, discs should never be turned unless there
is a significant surface defect (rivet or backer pad tracks). The caliper
adjusts for rotors that are still parallel but unevenly worn.

--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!



DougW 09-17-2007 11:44 PM

Re: 97 TJ - shimmy when braking
 
jbjeep wrote:
> That probably was meant to read "dont turn the stock rotors". they
> are a piece of $%&#. Get new aftermarket rotors if they are warped.


With stock, absolutly. With aftermarket it depends on how bad the
warp is. Turning just flattens them out, it does nothing for the root
cause of warping which is a change in one part of the rotors metal.
A badly warped rotor can simply not be turned flat. To restore a
badly warped rotor require heat treating to relive the stress, then turning.

> <wtaminut> wrote:
>
>>> "DougW" wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'd suspect warped rotors.
>>>>
>>>> Don't let any shop talk you into turning them.
>>>> (actually, if they do, you should find a new shop.)
>>>> The rotors will simply warp again.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Don't turn the rotors??????
>>> How would you suggest to get them straight again?
>>> Turning also gets rid of the "hard spots" caused from heat when
>>> braking. Just make sure whoever turns them is bright enough to
>>> measure rotor thickness.



As for getting the rotors straight again I suggest new rotors of
better that the $#$% OEM and a proper brake-in (pun intended) procedure.
There are no "hard spots" from normal braking providing the rotors have
been properly broken in. Riding a new set of brakes hard then sitting
at a stoplight with the brakes applied is the surest way to cause heat
soak and a warped rotor. I have ran my brakes exceptionally hard, cherry
red in some cases, and have had zero warpage.

Turning is mainly done to correct any surface issues or "lip" that forms
on the disc. For the most part, discs should never be turned unless there
is a significant surface defect (rivet or backer pad tracks). The caliper
adjusts for rotors that are still parallel but unevenly worn.

--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!



DougW 09-17-2007 11:44 PM

Re: 97 TJ - shimmy when braking
 
jbjeep wrote:
> That probably was meant to read "dont turn the stock rotors". they
> are a piece of $%&#. Get new aftermarket rotors if they are warped.


With stock, absolutly. With aftermarket it depends on how bad the
warp is. Turning just flattens them out, it does nothing for the root
cause of warping which is a change in one part of the rotors metal.
A badly warped rotor can simply not be turned flat. To restore a
badly warped rotor require heat treating to relive the stress, then turning.

> <wtaminut> wrote:
>
>>> "DougW" wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'd suspect warped rotors.
>>>>
>>>> Don't let any shop talk you into turning them.
>>>> (actually, if they do, you should find a new shop.)
>>>> The rotors will simply warp again.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Don't turn the rotors??????
>>> How would you suggest to get them straight again?
>>> Turning also gets rid of the "hard spots" caused from heat when
>>> braking. Just make sure whoever turns them is bright enough to
>>> measure rotor thickness.



As for getting the rotors straight again I suggest new rotors of
better that the $#$% OEM and a proper brake-in (pun intended) procedure.
There are no "hard spots" from normal braking providing the rotors have
been properly broken in. Riding a new set of brakes hard then sitting
at a stoplight with the brakes applied is the surest way to cause heat
soak and a warped rotor. I have ran my brakes exceptionally hard, cherry
red in some cases, and have had zero warpage.

Turning is mainly done to correct any surface issues or "lip" that forms
on the disc. For the most part, discs should never be turned unless there
is a significant surface defect (rivet or backer pad tracks). The caliper
adjusts for rotors that are still parallel but unevenly worn.

--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!



DougW 09-17-2007 11:44 PM

Re: 97 TJ - shimmy when braking
 
jbjeep wrote:
> That probably was meant to read "dont turn the stock rotors". they
> are a piece of $%&#. Get new aftermarket rotors if they are warped.


With stock, absolutly. With aftermarket it depends on how bad the
warp is. Turning just flattens them out, it does nothing for the root
cause of warping which is a change in one part of the rotors metal.
A badly warped rotor can simply not be turned flat. To restore a
badly warped rotor require heat treating to relive the stress, then turning.

> <wtaminut> wrote:
>
>>> "DougW" wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'd suspect warped rotors.
>>>>
>>>> Don't let any shop talk you into turning them.
>>>> (actually, if they do, you should find a new shop.)
>>>> The rotors will simply warp again.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Don't turn the rotors??????
>>> How would you suggest to get them straight again?
>>> Turning also gets rid of the "hard spots" caused from heat when
>>> braking. Just make sure whoever turns them is bright enough to
>>> measure rotor thickness.



As for getting the rotors straight again I suggest new rotors of
better that the $#$% OEM and a proper brake-in (pun intended) procedure.
There are no "hard spots" from normal braking providing the rotors have
been properly broken in. Riding a new set of brakes hard then sitting
at a stoplight with the brakes applied is the surest way to cause heat
soak and a warped rotor. I have ran my brakes exceptionally hard, cherry
red in some cases, and have had zero warpage.

Turning is mainly done to correct any surface issues or "lip" that forms
on the disc. For the most part, discs should never be turned unless there
is a significant surface defect (rivet or backer pad tracks). The caliper
adjusts for rotors that are still parallel but unevenly worn.

--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!



d 09-18-2007 12:48 AM

Re: 97 TJ - shimmy when braking
 
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 22:44:14 -0500, "DougW"
<I.only.read.usenet@invalid.address> wrote:

>jbjeep wrote:
>> That probably was meant to read "dont turn the stock rotors". they
>> are a piece of $%&#. Get new aftermarket rotors if they are warped.

>
>With stock, absolutly. With aftermarket it depends on how bad the
>warp is. Turning just flattens them out, it does nothing for the root
>cause of warping which is a change in one part of the rotors metal.
>A badly warped rotor can simply not be turned flat. To restore a
>badly warped rotor require heat treating to relive the stress, then turning.
>
>> <wtaminut> wrote:
>>
>>>> "DougW" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd suspect warped rotors.
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't let any shop talk you into turning them.
>>>>> (actually, if they do, you should find a new shop.)
>>>>> The rotors will simply warp again.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Don't turn the rotors??????
>>>> How would you suggest to get them straight again?
>>>> Turning also gets rid of the "hard spots" caused from heat when
>>>> braking. Just make sure whoever turns them is bright enough to
>>>> measure rotor thickness.

>
>
>As for getting the rotors straight again I suggest new rotors of
>better that the $#$% OEM and a proper brake-in (pun intended) procedure.
>There are no "hard spots" from normal braking providing the rotors have
>been properly broken in. Riding a new set of brakes hard then sitting
>at a stoplight with the brakes applied is the surest way to cause heat
>soak and a warped rotor. I have ran my brakes exceptionally hard, cherry
>red in some cases, and have had zero warpage.
>
>Turning is mainly done to correct any surface issues or "lip" that forms
>on the disc. For the most part, discs should never be turned unless there
>is a significant surface defect (rivet or backer pad tracks). The caliper
>adjusts for rotors that are still parallel but unevenly worn.



Hard spots do occur on any rotor over time. It is also reccommended
that you turn new rotors to "dress" them to insure a perfect surface
to begin with.


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