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markdgordon2002@gmail.com 04-21-2006 12:07 PM

97 Jeep wrangler tires
 
Looking to put bigger tires on my 97 jeep wrangler.
Not going bigger than 31*10.5*15's
Do I need to put on a lift for clearance issues. Also I don't really
want to go any higher than a 2" lift.

Any feed back on this issue would be appreciated.
It only has the 2.5 cycle engine in it, also is a standard. I really
love that 4 popper and the stick finishes the deal.

P.S.- Little tid bit about painted on pin stripeing. Oven Cleaner works
for taking it off, doesn't hurt the clear coat. Unless you let it sit
on the paint job to long. If you do that the oven cleaner will eat
through the paint. (not good)
Apply oven cleaner wait about a minute, wipe off stripes. Then wipe
with wet clean cloth, rinse thourghly. After done, hose down jeep clean
as normal. Take to detailing shop have them was and buff the outside.
If good looking woman works there, have her polish...............


Jarod Sprauer 04-21-2006 01:46 PM

Re: 97 Jeep wrangler tires
 
31x10.50s will fit stock rims.... if you have the gamblers they might rub a
hair on the control arms when turning very sharp

--
Jarod Sprauer
Talk is "JEEP" @
www.SprauerMotorsports.com
<markdgordon2002@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1145635637.658582.33540@v46g2000cwv.googlegro ups.com...
> Looking to put bigger tires on my 97 jeep wrangler.
> Not going bigger than 31*10.5*15's
> Do I need to put on a lift for clearance issues. Also I don't really
> want to go any higher than a 2" lift.
>
> Any feed back on this issue would be appreciated.
> It only has the 2.5 cycle engine in it, also is a standard. I really
> love that 4 popper and the stick finishes the deal.
>
> P.S.- Little tid bit about painted on pin stripeing. Oven Cleaner works
> for taking it off, doesn't hurt the clear coat. Unless you let it sit
> on the paint job to long. If you do that the oven cleaner will eat
> through the paint. (not good)
> Apply oven cleaner wait about a minute, wipe off stripes. Then wipe
> with wet clean cloth, rinse thourghly. After done, hose down jeep clean
> as normal. Take to detailing shop have them was and buff the outside.
> If good looking woman works there, have her polish...............
>




Jarod Sprauer 04-21-2006 01:46 PM

Re: 97 Jeep wrangler tires
 
31x10.50s will fit stock rims.... if you have the gamblers they might rub a
hair on the control arms when turning very sharp

--
Jarod Sprauer
Talk is "JEEP" @
www.SprauerMotorsports.com
<markdgordon2002@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1145635637.658582.33540@v46g2000cwv.googlegro ups.com...
> Looking to put bigger tires on my 97 jeep wrangler.
> Not going bigger than 31*10.5*15's
> Do I need to put on a lift for clearance issues. Also I don't really
> want to go any higher than a 2" lift.
>
> Any feed back on this issue would be appreciated.
> It only has the 2.5 cycle engine in it, also is a standard. I really
> love that 4 popper and the stick finishes the deal.
>
> P.S.- Little tid bit about painted on pin stripeing. Oven Cleaner works
> for taking it off, doesn't hurt the clear coat. Unless you let it sit
> on the paint job to long. If you do that the oven cleaner will eat
> through the paint. (not good)
> Apply oven cleaner wait about a minute, wipe off stripes. Then wipe
> with wet clean cloth, rinse thourghly. After done, hose down jeep clean
> as normal. Take to detailing shop have them was and buff the outside.
> If good looking woman works there, have her polish...............
>




Jarod Sprauer 04-21-2006 01:46 PM

Re: 97 Jeep wrangler tires
 
31x10.50s will fit stock rims.... if you have the gamblers they might rub a
hair on the control arms when turning very sharp

--
Jarod Sprauer
Talk is "JEEP" @
www.SprauerMotorsports.com
<markdgordon2002@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1145635637.658582.33540@v46g2000cwv.googlegro ups.com...
> Looking to put bigger tires on my 97 jeep wrangler.
> Not going bigger than 31*10.5*15's
> Do I need to put on a lift for clearance issues. Also I don't really
> want to go any higher than a 2" lift.
>
> Any feed back on this issue would be appreciated.
> It only has the 2.5 cycle engine in it, also is a standard. I really
> love that 4 popper and the stick finishes the deal.
>
> P.S.- Little tid bit about painted on pin stripeing. Oven Cleaner works
> for taking it off, doesn't hurt the clear coat. Unless you let it sit
> on the paint job to long. If you do that the oven cleaner will eat
> through the paint. (not good)
> Apply oven cleaner wait about a minute, wipe off stripes. Then wipe
> with wet clean cloth, rinse thourghly. After done, hose down jeep clean
> as normal. Take to detailing shop have them was and buff the outside.
> If good looking woman works there, have her polish...............
>




Wildfire 04-23-2006 07:30 PM

Re: 97 Jeep wrangler tires
 
I've had 31x10.5 BFG AT/KO's on my TJ for over 5 years. Same set up as
you 4cyl 2.5L. Othere than breaking my old "ear driven" shifting
reflexes, I haven't had any bad effects from them and I live in
Pittsburgh where the term "flat" means 15 degree angle. You should
note that you won't get into 5th gear except on very flat highways -
or downhill The 4cyl has more than enough power to handles the 31's.

Your tires might slightly rub on the steering stops, but they're not
hard to find or adjust. I ordered new wheels with 8.5 inch
backspacing and they work just fine. BUT ! 10/5W with 8.5"
backspacing causes a 1" protrusion of the tire beyond the wheel well.
While not legal in PA, I've never been stopped and still pass
inspection due to the "nebulous-ness" of the PA code for off road
vehicles. The 1" also tosses up more ground gunk so you might want to
consider mud flaps if you don't have them already.

FYI, the 31" also gives you another 2" of ground clearance already
because your stock tires are 27's. (31-27)/2 = axel lift of 2
inches.

You also should get a new speedometer gear to compensate for the
different road diameter in your 31's. Roughly speaking, you'll go
1.15x more miles than your speedometer registers. I never changed mine
and have no bad side effects (except that it looks like I get
phenomenal mileage for a jeep ?;-) ). Not getting it may be a problem
in some states like New Jersey where they go nuts on all the things
they check. Again, fairly easy to fix.

I wouldn't let any of this stop you from getting the new tires.





On 21 Apr 2006 09:07:17 -0700, "markdgordon2002@gmail.com"
<markdgordon2002@gmail.com> wrote:

>Looking to put bigger tires on my 97 jeep wrangler.
>Not going bigger than 31*10.5*15's
>Do I need to put on a lift for clearance issues. Also I don't really
>want to go any higher than a 2" lift.
>
>Any feed back on this issue would be appreciated.
>It only has the 2.5 cycle engine in it, also is a standard. I really
>love that 4 popper and the stick finishes the deal.
>
>P.S.- Little tid bit about painted on pin stripeing. Oven Cleaner works
>for taking it off, doesn't hurt the clear coat. Unless you let it sit
>on the paint job to long. If you do that the oven cleaner will eat
>through the paint. (not good)
>Apply oven cleaner wait about a minute, wipe off stripes. Then wipe
>with wet clean cloth, rinse thourghly. After done, hose down jeep clean
>as normal. Take to detailing shop have them was and buff the outside.
>If good looking woman works there, have her polish...............



Wildfire 04-23-2006 07:30 PM

Re: 97 Jeep wrangler tires
 
I've had 31x10.5 BFG AT/KO's on my TJ for over 5 years. Same set up as
you 4cyl 2.5L. Othere than breaking my old "ear driven" shifting
reflexes, I haven't had any bad effects from them and I live in
Pittsburgh where the term "flat" means 15 degree angle. You should
note that you won't get into 5th gear except on very flat highways -
or downhill The 4cyl has more than enough power to handles the 31's.

Your tires might slightly rub on the steering stops, but they're not
hard to find or adjust. I ordered new wheels with 8.5 inch
backspacing and they work just fine. BUT ! 10/5W with 8.5"
backspacing causes a 1" protrusion of the tire beyond the wheel well.
While not legal in PA, I've never been stopped and still pass
inspection due to the "nebulous-ness" of the PA code for off road
vehicles. The 1" also tosses up more ground gunk so you might want to
consider mud flaps if you don't have them already.

FYI, the 31" also gives you another 2" of ground clearance already
because your stock tires are 27's. (31-27)/2 = axel lift of 2
inches.

You also should get a new speedometer gear to compensate for the
different road diameter in your 31's. Roughly speaking, you'll go
1.15x more miles than your speedometer registers. I never changed mine
and have no bad side effects (except that it looks like I get
phenomenal mileage for a jeep ?;-) ). Not getting it may be a problem
in some states like New Jersey where they go nuts on all the things
they check. Again, fairly easy to fix.

I wouldn't let any of this stop you from getting the new tires.





On 21 Apr 2006 09:07:17 -0700, "markdgordon2002@gmail.com"
<markdgordon2002@gmail.com> wrote:

>Looking to put bigger tires on my 97 jeep wrangler.
>Not going bigger than 31*10.5*15's
>Do I need to put on a lift for clearance issues. Also I don't really
>want to go any higher than a 2" lift.
>
>Any feed back on this issue would be appreciated.
>It only has the 2.5 cycle engine in it, also is a standard. I really
>love that 4 popper and the stick finishes the deal.
>
>P.S.- Little tid bit about painted on pin stripeing. Oven Cleaner works
>for taking it off, doesn't hurt the clear coat. Unless you let it sit
>on the paint job to long. If you do that the oven cleaner will eat
>through the paint. (not good)
>Apply oven cleaner wait about a minute, wipe off stripes. Then wipe
>with wet clean cloth, rinse thourghly. After done, hose down jeep clean
>as normal. Take to detailing shop have them was and buff the outside.
>If good looking woman works there, have her polish...............



Wildfire 04-23-2006 07:30 PM

Re: 97 Jeep wrangler tires
 
I've had 31x10.5 BFG AT/KO's on my TJ for over 5 years. Same set up as
you 4cyl 2.5L. Othere than breaking my old "ear driven" shifting
reflexes, I haven't had any bad effects from them and I live in
Pittsburgh where the term "flat" means 15 degree angle. You should
note that you won't get into 5th gear except on very flat highways -
or downhill The 4cyl has more than enough power to handles the 31's.

Your tires might slightly rub on the steering stops, but they're not
hard to find or adjust. I ordered new wheels with 8.5 inch
backspacing and they work just fine. BUT ! 10/5W with 8.5"
backspacing causes a 1" protrusion of the tire beyond the wheel well.
While not legal in PA, I've never been stopped and still pass
inspection due to the "nebulous-ness" of the PA code for off road
vehicles. The 1" also tosses up more ground gunk so you might want to
consider mud flaps if you don't have them already.

FYI, the 31" also gives you another 2" of ground clearance already
because your stock tires are 27's. (31-27)/2 = axel lift of 2
inches.

You also should get a new speedometer gear to compensate for the
different road diameter in your 31's. Roughly speaking, you'll go
1.15x more miles than your speedometer registers. I never changed mine
and have no bad side effects (except that it looks like I get
phenomenal mileage for a jeep ?;-) ). Not getting it may be a problem
in some states like New Jersey where they go nuts on all the things
they check. Again, fairly easy to fix.

I wouldn't let any of this stop you from getting the new tires.





On 21 Apr 2006 09:07:17 -0700, "markdgordon2002@gmail.com"
<markdgordon2002@gmail.com> wrote:

>Looking to put bigger tires on my 97 jeep wrangler.
>Not going bigger than 31*10.5*15's
>Do I need to put on a lift for clearance issues. Also I don't really
>want to go any higher than a 2" lift.
>
>Any feed back on this issue would be appreciated.
>It only has the 2.5 cycle engine in it, also is a standard. I really
>love that 4 popper and the stick finishes the deal.
>
>P.S.- Little tid bit about painted on pin stripeing. Oven Cleaner works
>for taking it off, doesn't hurt the clear coat. Unless you let it sit
>on the paint job to long. If you do that the oven cleaner will eat
>through the paint. (not good)
>Apply oven cleaner wait about a minute, wipe off stripes. Then wipe
>with wet clean cloth, rinse thourghly. After done, hose down jeep clean
>as normal. Take to detailing shop have them was and buff the outside.
>If good looking woman works there, have her polish...............



Mike Romain 04-24-2006 09:39 AM

Re: 97 Jeep wrangler tires
 
You really might want to use a GPS to verify your tire size to
speedometer... On our Cherokee oversized P235's make the speedometer
exact to the GPS and for some strange reason 33's do it on my CJ7.

I have heard that some TJ speedometers are exact to a GPS with 31's....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Wildfire wrote:
>
> I've had 31x10.5 BFG AT/KO's on my TJ for over 5 years. Same set up as
> you 4cyl 2.5L. Othere than breaking my old "ear driven" shifting
> reflexes, I haven't had any bad effects from them and I live in
> Pittsburgh where the term "flat" means 15 degree angle. You should
> note that you won't get into 5th gear except on very flat highways -
> or downhill The 4cyl has more than enough power to handles the 31's.
>
> Your tires might slightly rub on the steering stops, but they're not
> hard to find or adjust. I ordered new wheels with 8.5 inch
> backspacing and they work just fine. BUT ! 10/5W with 8.5"
> backspacing causes a 1" protrusion of the tire beyond the wheel well.
> While not legal in PA, I've never been stopped and still pass
> inspection due to the "nebulous-ness" of the PA code for off road
> vehicles. The 1" also tosses up more ground gunk so you might want to
> consider mud flaps if you don't have them already.
>
> FYI, the 31" also gives you another 2" of ground clearance already
> because your stock tires are 27's. (31-27)/2 = axel lift of 2
> inches.
>
> You also should get a new speedometer gear to compensate for the
> different road diameter in your 31's. Roughly speaking, you'll go
> 1.15x more miles than your speedometer registers. I never changed mine
> and have no bad side effects (except that it looks like I get
> phenomenal mileage for a jeep ?;-) ). Not getting it may be a problem
> in some states like New Jersey where they go nuts on all the things
> they check. Again, fairly easy to fix.
>
> I wouldn't let any of this stop you from getting the new tires.
>
> On 21 Apr 2006 09:07:17 -0700, "markdgordon2002@gmail.com"
> <markdgordon2002@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Looking to put bigger tires on my 97 jeep wrangler.
> >Not going bigger than 31*10.5*15's
> >Do I need to put on a lift for clearance issues. Also I don't really
> >want to go any higher than a 2" lift.
> >
> >Any feed back on this issue would be appreciated.
> >It only has the 2.5 cycle engine in it, also is a standard. I really
> >love that 4 popper and the stick finishes the deal.
> >
> >P.S.- Little tid bit about painted on pin stripeing. Oven Cleaner works
> >for taking it off, doesn't hurt the clear coat. Unless you let it sit
> >on the paint job to long. If you do that the oven cleaner will eat
> >through the paint. (not good)
> >Apply oven cleaner wait about a minute, wipe off stripes. Then wipe
> >with wet clean cloth, rinse thourghly. After done, hose down jeep clean
> >as normal. Take to detailing shop have them was and buff the outside.
> >If good looking woman works there, have her polish...............


Mike Romain 04-24-2006 09:39 AM

Re: 97 Jeep wrangler tires
 
You really might want to use a GPS to verify your tire size to
speedometer... On our Cherokee oversized P235's make the speedometer
exact to the GPS and for some strange reason 33's do it on my CJ7.

I have heard that some TJ speedometers are exact to a GPS with 31's....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Wildfire wrote:
>
> I've had 31x10.5 BFG AT/KO's on my TJ for over 5 years. Same set up as
> you 4cyl 2.5L. Othere than breaking my old "ear driven" shifting
> reflexes, I haven't had any bad effects from them and I live in
> Pittsburgh where the term "flat" means 15 degree angle. You should
> note that you won't get into 5th gear except on very flat highways -
> or downhill The 4cyl has more than enough power to handles the 31's.
>
> Your tires might slightly rub on the steering stops, but they're not
> hard to find or adjust. I ordered new wheels with 8.5 inch
> backspacing and they work just fine. BUT ! 10/5W with 8.5"
> backspacing causes a 1" protrusion of the tire beyond the wheel well.
> While not legal in PA, I've never been stopped and still pass
> inspection due to the "nebulous-ness" of the PA code for off road
> vehicles. The 1" also tosses up more ground gunk so you might want to
> consider mud flaps if you don't have them already.
>
> FYI, the 31" also gives you another 2" of ground clearance already
> because your stock tires are 27's. (31-27)/2 = axel lift of 2
> inches.
>
> You also should get a new speedometer gear to compensate for the
> different road diameter in your 31's. Roughly speaking, you'll go
> 1.15x more miles than your speedometer registers. I never changed mine
> and have no bad side effects (except that it looks like I get
> phenomenal mileage for a jeep ?;-) ). Not getting it may be a problem
> in some states like New Jersey where they go nuts on all the things
> they check. Again, fairly easy to fix.
>
> I wouldn't let any of this stop you from getting the new tires.
>
> On 21 Apr 2006 09:07:17 -0700, "markdgordon2002@gmail.com"
> <markdgordon2002@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Looking to put bigger tires on my 97 jeep wrangler.
> >Not going bigger than 31*10.5*15's
> >Do I need to put on a lift for clearance issues. Also I don't really
> >want to go any higher than a 2" lift.
> >
> >Any feed back on this issue would be appreciated.
> >It only has the 2.5 cycle engine in it, also is a standard. I really
> >love that 4 popper and the stick finishes the deal.
> >
> >P.S.- Little tid bit about painted on pin stripeing. Oven Cleaner works
> >for taking it off, doesn't hurt the clear coat. Unless you let it sit
> >on the paint job to long. If you do that the oven cleaner will eat
> >through the paint. (not good)
> >Apply oven cleaner wait about a minute, wipe off stripes. Then wipe
> >with wet clean cloth, rinse thourghly. After done, hose down jeep clean
> >as normal. Take to detailing shop have them was and buff the outside.
> >If good looking woman works there, have her polish...............


Mike Romain 04-24-2006 09:39 AM

Re: 97 Jeep wrangler tires
 
You really might want to use a GPS to verify your tire size to
speedometer... On our Cherokee oversized P235's make the speedometer
exact to the GPS and for some strange reason 33's do it on my CJ7.

I have heard that some TJ speedometers are exact to a GPS with 31's....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Wildfire wrote:
>
> I've had 31x10.5 BFG AT/KO's on my TJ for over 5 years. Same set up as
> you 4cyl 2.5L. Othere than breaking my old "ear driven" shifting
> reflexes, I haven't had any bad effects from them and I live in
> Pittsburgh where the term "flat" means 15 degree angle. You should
> note that you won't get into 5th gear except on very flat highways -
> or downhill The 4cyl has more than enough power to handles the 31's.
>
> Your tires might slightly rub on the steering stops, but they're not
> hard to find or adjust. I ordered new wheels with 8.5 inch
> backspacing and they work just fine. BUT ! 10/5W with 8.5"
> backspacing causes a 1" protrusion of the tire beyond the wheel well.
> While not legal in PA, I've never been stopped and still pass
> inspection due to the "nebulous-ness" of the PA code for off road
> vehicles. The 1" also tosses up more ground gunk so you might want to
> consider mud flaps if you don't have them already.
>
> FYI, the 31" also gives you another 2" of ground clearance already
> because your stock tires are 27's. (31-27)/2 = axel lift of 2
> inches.
>
> You also should get a new speedometer gear to compensate for the
> different road diameter in your 31's. Roughly speaking, you'll go
> 1.15x more miles than your speedometer registers. I never changed mine
> and have no bad side effects (except that it looks like I get
> phenomenal mileage for a jeep ?;-) ). Not getting it may be a problem
> in some states like New Jersey where they go nuts on all the things
> they check. Again, fairly easy to fix.
>
> I wouldn't let any of this stop you from getting the new tires.
>
> On 21 Apr 2006 09:07:17 -0700, "markdgordon2002@gmail.com"
> <markdgordon2002@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Looking to put bigger tires on my 97 jeep wrangler.
> >Not going bigger than 31*10.5*15's
> >Do I need to put on a lift for clearance issues. Also I don't really
> >want to go any higher than a 2" lift.
> >
> >Any feed back on this issue would be appreciated.
> >It only has the 2.5 cycle engine in it, also is a standard. I really
> >love that 4 popper and the stick finishes the deal.
> >
> >P.S.- Little tid bit about painted on pin stripeing. Oven Cleaner works
> >for taking it off, doesn't hurt the clear coat. Unless you let it sit
> >on the paint job to long. If you do that the oven cleaner will eat
> >through the paint. (not good)
> >Apply oven cleaner wait about a minute, wipe off stripes. Then wipe
> >with wet clean cloth, rinse thourghly. After done, hose down jeep clean
> >as normal. Take to detailing shop have them was and buff the outside.
> >If good looking woman works there, have her polish...............



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