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Jeff Strickland 05-06-2005 03:32 PM

Re: 96 grand cherokee abs light
 

"rufus t" <r_firefly@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:acBee.1619$X21.205@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com ...
> "nunya" <pereynoldsdfw@comcast.net> wrote in
> news:hMSdnan9AZDY3effRVn-2A@comcast.com:
>
> > in line 6 2wd. 205k miles.automatic, its green.
> >
> > this has been the best purchase of my life (save for the mail-order
> > bride) but I've got a couple of
> > "dumb guy" questions.
> >
> > 1) a month ago, I was towed, (no mech. problem, lets just leave it at
> > that,ok?) and my ABS light came on when I picked the car up. no codes,
> > just the light. In the course of normal operation, I've done the 50
> > start cycles, but the light is still on. Do I need to use some ranger
> > rick secret de-coder ring? or do I have to do the chickens sacrifice
> > again?
> >
> > 2) a "starting" problem.
> > when I first crank, it will not start. I have to crank for 5-10
> > seconds, then recrank, and it will start right up, no worries.
> > This happens when hot, cold, over night, after a 10 minute, or 2 hour
> > drive. It is independant of weather, temp, or operational conditions.
> >
> > as an aside, I get 17-19 mpg city, 22-24 hwy on regular. I change oil
> > every 3-4k, carries 20lbs of pressure, all in all, a great vehicle.
> >
> > "A car is like a woman. If you give them what they need before they
> > know they need it, they won't leave you by the side of the road"
> >
> > thanks.
> >
> >

>
> I haven't seen it mentioned in the threads anywhere, but have you tried
> disconnecting the battery to reset the indicator?
>



Any ABS fault is supposed to reset everytime the vehicle is started, then
return if it is still present AND the vehicle is moving. ABS doesn't care
that it doesn't work IF the vehicle is stopped - the trip hasn't yet begun.
ABS only cares that it doesn't work if the trip has been started, then it
doesn't care if the vehicle is moving or stopped, the ABS fault display
remains.

If the ABS fault report is due to an actual fault, there should be a code
stored.




Jeff Strickland 05-06-2005 03:32 PM

Re: 96 grand cherokee abs light
 

"rufus t" <r_firefly@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:acBee.1619$X21.205@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com ...
> "nunya" <pereynoldsdfw@comcast.net> wrote in
> news:hMSdnan9AZDY3effRVn-2A@comcast.com:
>
> > in line 6 2wd. 205k miles.automatic, its green.
> >
> > this has been the best purchase of my life (save for the mail-order
> > bride) but I've got a couple of
> > "dumb guy" questions.
> >
> > 1) a month ago, I was towed, (no mech. problem, lets just leave it at
> > that,ok?) and my ABS light came on when I picked the car up. no codes,
> > just the light. In the course of normal operation, I've done the 50
> > start cycles, but the light is still on. Do I need to use some ranger
> > rick secret de-coder ring? or do I have to do the chickens sacrifice
> > again?
> >
> > 2) a "starting" problem.
> > when I first crank, it will not start. I have to crank for 5-10
> > seconds, then recrank, and it will start right up, no worries.
> > This happens when hot, cold, over night, after a 10 minute, or 2 hour
> > drive. It is independant of weather, temp, or operational conditions.
> >
> > as an aside, I get 17-19 mpg city, 22-24 hwy on regular. I change oil
> > every 3-4k, carries 20lbs of pressure, all in all, a great vehicle.
> >
> > "A car is like a woman. If you give them what they need before they
> > know they need it, they won't leave you by the side of the road"
> >
> > thanks.
> >
> >

>
> I haven't seen it mentioned in the threads anywhere, but have you tried
> disconnecting the battery to reset the indicator?
>



Any ABS fault is supposed to reset everytime the vehicle is started, then
return if it is still present AND the vehicle is moving. ABS doesn't care
that it doesn't work IF the vehicle is stopped - the trip hasn't yet begun.
ABS only cares that it doesn't work if the trip has been started, then it
doesn't care if the vehicle is moving or stopped, the ABS fault display
remains.

If the ABS fault report is due to an actual fault, there should be a code
stored.




Jeff Strickland 05-06-2005 03:32 PM

Re: 96 grand cherokee abs light
 

"rufus t" <r_firefly@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:acBee.1619$X21.205@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com ...
> "nunya" <pereynoldsdfw@comcast.net> wrote in
> news:hMSdnan9AZDY3effRVn-2A@comcast.com:
>
> > in line 6 2wd. 205k miles.automatic, its green.
> >
> > this has been the best purchase of my life (save for the mail-order
> > bride) but I've got a couple of
> > "dumb guy" questions.
> >
> > 1) a month ago, I was towed, (no mech. problem, lets just leave it at
> > that,ok?) and my ABS light came on when I picked the car up. no codes,
> > just the light. In the course of normal operation, I've done the 50
> > start cycles, but the light is still on. Do I need to use some ranger
> > rick secret de-coder ring? or do I have to do the chickens sacrifice
> > again?
> >
> > 2) a "starting" problem.
> > when I first crank, it will not start. I have to crank for 5-10
> > seconds, then recrank, and it will start right up, no worries.
> > This happens when hot, cold, over night, after a 10 minute, or 2 hour
> > drive. It is independant of weather, temp, or operational conditions.
> >
> > as an aside, I get 17-19 mpg city, 22-24 hwy on regular. I change oil
> > every 3-4k, carries 20lbs of pressure, all in all, a great vehicle.
> >
> > "A car is like a woman. If you give them what they need before they
> > know they need it, they won't leave you by the side of the road"
> >
> > thanks.
> >
> >

>
> I haven't seen it mentioned in the threads anywhere, but have you tried
> disconnecting the battery to reset the indicator?
>



Any ABS fault is supposed to reset everytime the vehicle is started, then
return if it is still present AND the vehicle is moving. ABS doesn't care
that it doesn't work IF the vehicle is stopped - the trip hasn't yet begun.
ABS only cares that it doesn't work if the trip has been started, then it
doesn't care if the vehicle is moving or stopped, the ABS fault display
remains.

If the ABS fault report is due to an actual fault, there should be a code
stored.




Mike Romain 05-06-2005 04:19 PM

Re: 96 grand cherokee abs light
 
What condition is the ground strap between the head and the firewall
in? That could cause most things.

I would be looking really close where the tow truck hooked on for a
damaged wire to one of the ABS sensors. I am thinking a slight squeeze
short or a punky body ground can cause strange things.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

nunya wrote:
>
> in line 6 2wd. 205k miles.automatic, its green.
>
> this has been the best purchase of my life (save for the mail-order bride)
> but I've got a couple of
> "dumb guy" questions.
>
> 1) a month ago, I was towed, (no mech. problem, lets just leave it at
> that,ok?) and my ABS light came on when I picked the car up. no codes, just
> the light. In the course of normal operation, I've done the 50 start cycles,
> but the light is still on. Do I need to use some ranger rick secret de-coder
> ring? or do I have to do the chickens sacrifice again?
>
> 2) a "starting" problem.
> when I first crank, it will not start. I have to crank for 5-10 seconds,
> then recrank, and it will start right up, no worries.
> This happens when hot, cold, over night, after a 10 minute, or 2 hour drive.
> It is independant of weather, temp, or operational conditions.
>
> as an aside, I get 17-19 mpg city, 22-24 hwy on regular. I change oil every
> 3-4k, carries 20lbs of pressure, all in all, a great vehicle.
>
> "A car is like a woman. If you give them what they need before they know
> they need it, they won't leave you by the side of the road"
>
> thanks.


Mike Romain 05-06-2005 04:19 PM

Re: 96 grand cherokee abs light
 
What condition is the ground strap between the head and the firewall
in? That could cause most things.

I would be looking really close where the tow truck hooked on for a
damaged wire to one of the ABS sensors. I am thinking a slight squeeze
short or a punky body ground can cause strange things.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

nunya wrote:
>
> in line 6 2wd. 205k miles.automatic, its green.
>
> this has been the best purchase of my life (save for the mail-order bride)
> but I've got a couple of
> "dumb guy" questions.
>
> 1) a month ago, I was towed, (no mech. problem, lets just leave it at
> that,ok?) and my ABS light came on when I picked the car up. no codes, just
> the light. In the course of normal operation, I've done the 50 start cycles,
> but the light is still on. Do I need to use some ranger rick secret de-coder
> ring? or do I have to do the chickens sacrifice again?
>
> 2) a "starting" problem.
> when I first crank, it will not start. I have to crank for 5-10 seconds,
> then recrank, and it will start right up, no worries.
> This happens when hot, cold, over night, after a 10 minute, or 2 hour drive.
> It is independant of weather, temp, or operational conditions.
>
> as an aside, I get 17-19 mpg city, 22-24 hwy on regular. I change oil every
> 3-4k, carries 20lbs of pressure, all in all, a great vehicle.
>
> "A car is like a woman. If you give them what they need before they know
> they need it, they won't leave you by the side of the road"
>
> thanks.


Mike Romain 05-06-2005 04:19 PM

Re: 96 grand cherokee abs light
 
What condition is the ground strap between the head and the firewall
in? That could cause most things.

I would be looking really close where the tow truck hooked on for a
damaged wire to one of the ABS sensors. I am thinking a slight squeeze
short or a punky body ground can cause strange things.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

nunya wrote:
>
> in line 6 2wd. 205k miles.automatic, its green.
>
> this has been the best purchase of my life (save for the mail-order bride)
> but I've got a couple of
> "dumb guy" questions.
>
> 1) a month ago, I was towed, (no mech. problem, lets just leave it at
> that,ok?) and my ABS light came on when I picked the car up. no codes, just
> the light. In the course of normal operation, I've done the 50 start cycles,
> but the light is still on. Do I need to use some ranger rick secret de-coder
> ring? or do I have to do the chickens sacrifice again?
>
> 2) a "starting" problem.
> when I first crank, it will not start. I have to crank for 5-10 seconds,
> then recrank, and it will start right up, no worries.
> This happens when hot, cold, over night, after a 10 minute, or 2 hour drive.
> It is independant of weather, temp, or operational conditions.
>
> as an aside, I get 17-19 mpg city, 22-24 hwy on regular. I change oil every
> 3-4k, carries 20lbs of pressure, all in all, a great vehicle.
>
> "A car is like a woman. If you give them what they need before they know
> they need it, they won't leave you by the side of the road"
>
> thanks.


Mike Romain 05-06-2005 04:19 PM

Re: 96 grand cherokee abs light
 
What condition is the ground strap between the head and the firewall
in? That could cause most things.

I would be looking really close where the tow truck hooked on for a
damaged wire to one of the ABS sensors. I am thinking a slight squeeze
short or a punky body ground can cause strange things.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

nunya wrote:
>
> in line 6 2wd. 205k miles.automatic, its green.
>
> this has been the best purchase of my life (save for the mail-order bride)
> but I've got a couple of
> "dumb guy" questions.
>
> 1) a month ago, I was towed, (no mech. problem, lets just leave it at
> that,ok?) and my ABS light came on when I picked the car up. no codes, just
> the light. In the course of normal operation, I've done the 50 start cycles,
> but the light is still on. Do I need to use some ranger rick secret de-coder
> ring? or do I have to do the chickens sacrifice again?
>
> 2) a "starting" problem.
> when I first crank, it will not start. I have to crank for 5-10 seconds,
> then recrank, and it will start right up, no worries.
> This happens when hot, cold, over night, after a 10 minute, or 2 hour drive.
> It is independant of weather, temp, or operational conditions.
>
> as an aside, I get 17-19 mpg city, 22-24 hwy on regular. I change oil every
> 3-4k, carries 20lbs of pressure, all in all, a great vehicle.
>
> "A car is like a woman. If you give them what they need before they know
> they need it, they won't leave you by the side of the road"
>
> thanks.


rufus t 05-06-2005 04:57 PM

Re: 96 grand cherokee abs light
 
"Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in
news:Y7qdnQeZJNdxW-bfRVn-2w@ez2.net:

>
> "rufus t" <r_firefly@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:acBee.1619$X21.205@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com ...
>> "nunya" <pereynoldsdfw@comcast.net> wrote in
>> news:hMSdnan9AZDY3effRVn-2A@comcast.com:
>>
>> > in line 6 2wd. 205k miles.automatic, its green.
>> >
>> > this has been the best purchase of my life (save for the mail-order
>> > bride) but I've got a couple of
>> > "dumb guy" questions.
>> >
>> > 1) a month ago, I was towed, (no mech. problem, lets just leave it
>> > at that,ok?) and my ABS light came on when I picked the car up. no
>> > codes, just the light. In the course of normal operation, I've done
>> > the 50 start cycles, but the light is still on. Do I need to use
>> > some ranger rick secret de-coder ring? or do I have to do the
>> > chickens sacrifice again?
>> >
>> > 2) a "starting" problem.
>> > when I first crank, it will not start. I have to crank for 5-10
>> > seconds, then recrank, and it will start right up, no worries.
>> > This happens when hot, cold, over night, after a 10 minute, or 2
>> > hour drive. It is independant of weather, temp, or operational
>> > conditions.
>> >
>> > as an aside, I get 17-19 mpg city, 22-24 hwy on regular. I change
>> > oil every 3-4k, carries 20lbs of pressure, all in all, a great
>> > vehicle.
>> >
>> > "A car is like a woman. If you give them what they need before they
>> > know they need it, they won't leave you by the side of the road"
>> >
>> > thanks.
>> >
>> >

>>
>> I haven't seen it mentioned in the threads anywhere, but have you
>> tried disconnecting the battery to reset the indicator?
>>

>
>
> Any ABS fault is supposed to reset everytime the vehicle is started,
> then return if it is still present AND the vehicle is moving. ABS
> doesn't care that it doesn't work IF the vehicle is stopped - the trip
> hasn't yet begun. ABS only cares that it doesn't work if the trip has
> been started, then it doesn't care if the vehicle is moving or
> stopped, the ABS fault display remains.
>
> If the ABS fault report is due to an actual fault, there should be a
> code stored.
>
>
>


Yeah, OK, but "supposed to" doesn't mean "does".

If the tow/lift did something that confused the computer, then a hard power
reset might do something to un-confuse it. I don't mean to imply it's
the most likely solution, just that it's something i would try, if it were
me.


rufus t 05-06-2005 04:57 PM

Re: 96 grand cherokee abs light
 
"Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in
news:Y7qdnQeZJNdxW-bfRVn-2w@ez2.net:

>
> "rufus t" <r_firefly@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:acBee.1619$X21.205@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com ...
>> "nunya" <pereynoldsdfw@comcast.net> wrote in
>> news:hMSdnan9AZDY3effRVn-2A@comcast.com:
>>
>> > in line 6 2wd. 205k miles.automatic, its green.
>> >
>> > this has been the best purchase of my life (save for the mail-order
>> > bride) but I've got a couple of
>> > "dumb guy" questions.
>> >
>> > 1) a month ago, I was towed, (no mech. problem, lets just leave it
>> > at that,ok?) and my ABS light came on when I picked the car up. no
>> > codes, just the light. In the course of normal operation, I've done
>> > the 50 start cycles, but the light is still on. Do I need to use
>> > some ranger rick secret de-coder ring? or do I have to do the
>> > chickens sacrifice again?
>> >
>> > 2) a "starting" problem.
>> > when I first crank, it will not start. I have to crank for 5-10
>> > seconds, then recrank, and it will start right up, no worries.
>> > This happens when hot, cold, over night, after a 10 minute, or 2
>> > hour drive. It is independant of weather, temp, or operational
>> > conditions.
>> >
>> > as an aside, I get 17-19 mpg city, 22-24 hwy on regular. I change
>> > oil every 3-4k, carries 20lbs of pressure, all in all, a great
>> > vehicle.
>> >
>> > "A car is like a woman. If you give them what they need before they
>> > know they need it, they won't leave you by the side of the road"
>> >
>> > thanks.
>> >
>> >

>>
>> I haven't seen it mentioned in the threads anywhere, but have you
>> tried disconnecting the battery to reset the indicator?
>>

>
>
> Any ABS fault is supposed to reset everytime the vehicle is started,
> then return if it is still present AND the vehicle is moving. ABS
> doesn't care that it doesn't work IF the vehicle is stopped - the trip
> hasn't yet begun. ABS only cares that it doesn't work if the trip has
> been started, then it doesn't care if the vehicle is moving or
> stopped, the ABS fault display remains.
>
> If the ABS fault report is due to an actual fault, there should be a
> code stored.
>
>
>


Yeah, OK, but "supposed to" doesn't mean "does".

If the tow/lift did something that confused the computer, then a hard power
reset might do something to un-confuse it. I don't mean to imply it's
the most likely solution, just that it's something i would try, if it were
me.


rufus t 05-06-2005 04:57 PM

Re: 96 grand cherokee abs light
 
"Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in
news:Y7qdnQeZJNdxW-bfRVn-2w@ez2.net:

>
> "rufus t" <r_firefly@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:acBee.1619$X21.205@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com ...
>> "nunya" <pereynoldsdfw@comcast.net> wrote in
>> news:hMSdnan9AZDY3effRVn-2A@comcast.com:
>>
>> > in line 6 2wd. 205k miles.automatic, its green.
>> >
>> > this has been the best purchase of my life (save for the mail-order
>> > bride) but I've got a couple of
>> > "dumb guy" questions.
>> >
>> > 1) a month ago, I was towed, (no mech. problem, lets just leave it
>> > at that,ok?) and my ABS light came on when I picked the car up. no
>> > codes, just the light. In the course of normal operation, I've done
>> > the 50 start cycles, but the light is still on. Do I need to use
>> > some ranger rick secret de-coder ring? or do I have to do the
>> > chickens sacrifice again?
>> >
>> > 2) a "starting" problem.
>> > when I first crank, it will not start. I have to crank for 5-10
>> > seconds, then recrank, and it will start right up, no worries.
>> > This happens when hot, cold, over night, after a 10 minute, or 2
>> > hour drive. It is independant of weather, temp, or operational
>> > conditions.
>> >
>> > as an aside, I get 17-19 mpg city, 22-24 hwy on regular. I change
>> > oil every 3-4k, carries 20lbs of pressure, all in all, a great
>> > vehicle.
>> >
>> > "A car is like a woman. If you give them what they need before they
>> > know they need it, they won't leave you by the side of the road"
>> >
>> > thanks.
>> >
>> >

>>
>> I haven't seen it mentioned in the threads anywhere, but have you
>> tried disconnecting the battery to reset the indicator?
>>

>
>
> Any ABS fault is supposed to reset everytime the vehicle is started,
> then return if it is still present AND the vehicle is moving. ABS
> doesn't care that it doesn't work IF the vehicle is stopped - the trip
> hasn't yet begun. ABS only cares that it doesn't work if the trip has
> been started, then it doesn't care if the vehicle is moving or
> stopped, the ABS fault display remains.
>
> If the ABS fault report is due to an actual fault, there should be a
> code stored.
>
>
>


Yeah, OK, but "supposed to" doesn't mean "does".

If the tow/lift did something that confused the computer, then a hard power
reset might do something to un-confuse it. I don't mean to imply it's
the most likely solution, just that it's something i would try, if it were
me.



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