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Smarny 09-06-2004 11:58 PM

96 Cherokee "Clutch" problem
 
Hey folks,

I've got a 6 Cherokee Sport. 4.0, 5-speed, 4WD...

The problem is that the clutch sometimes won't engage when the pedal
is pushed all the way in.

Manuals says to 1st check the fluid level in the master cylendar.
It's full.

Other problems cited are fluid on the clutch plate, throw out bearing,
bad spring etc. Reasonable things to check but before dropping the
tranny???

Also, I've got some questions...

The problem is that it is sometimes hard or impossible to shift. The
stick just won't budge. Then I'll do something like turn off the A/C
and all of a sudden, it works.

Problem solved? Don't use the AC...

Unfortunately, the problem came back later today with the AC off. I
couldn't get the Jeep out of reverse. I was pushing the clutch pedal
all the way in and the shifter wouldnt move. Actually, the car was
slowly moving backward as if the clutch was barely engaged.

Out of frustration, I turned off the ignition, released the clutch,
released the break and the car rolled forward in gear. I then turned
on the ignition and the problem was gone...

Any thoughts or ideas?

The thing that gets me is that it is intermittant.

Thanks

Tom

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 09-07-2004 12:44 AM

Re: 96 Cherokee "Clutch" problem
 
Hi Tom,
A bad clutch master cylinder will be intermittent, depending on if
the worn out cup catches a charge of fluid or not. You might be able to
feel it pump up if you peddle it a couple of times before you attempt to
shift gears.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Smarny wrote:
>
> Hey folks,
>
> I've got a 6 Cherokee Sport. 4.0, 5-speed, 4WD...
>
> The problem is that the clutch sometimes won't engage when the pedal
> is pushed all the way in.
>
> Manuals says to 1st check the fluid level in the master cylendar.
> It's full.
>
> Other problems cited are fluid on the clutch plate, throw out bearing,
> bad spring etc. Reasonable things to check but before dropping the
> tranny???
>
> Also, I've got some questions...
>
> The problem is that it is sometimes hard or impossible to shift. The
> stick just won't budge. Then I'll do something like turn off the A/C
> and all of a sudden, it works.
>
> Problem solved? Don't use the AC...
>
> Unfortunately, the problem came back later today with the AC off. I
> couldn't get the Jeep out of reverse. I was pushing the clutch pedal
> all the way in and the shifter wouldnt move. Actually, the car was
> slowly moving backward as if the clutch was barely engaged.
>
> Out of frustration, I turned off the ignition, released the clutch,
> released the break and the car rolled forward in gear. I then turned
> on the ignition and the problem was gone...
>
> Any thoughts or ideas?
>
> The thing that gets me is that it is intermittant.
>
> Thanks
>
> Tom


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 09-07-2004 12:44 AM

Re: 96 Cherokee "Clutch" problem
 
Hi Tom,
A bad clutch master cylinder will be intermittent, depending on if
the worn out cup catches a charge of fluid or not. You might be able to
feel it pump up if you peddle it a couple of times before you attempt to
shift gears.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Smarny wrote:
>
> Hey folks,
>
> I've got a 6 Cherokee Sport. 4.0, 5-speed, 4WD...
>
> The problem is that the clutch sometimes won't engage when the pedal
> is pushed all the way in.
>
> Manuals says to 1st check the fluid level in the master cylendar.
> It's full.
>
> Other problems cited are fluid on the clutch plate, throw out bearing,
> bad spring etc. Reasonable things to check but before dropping the
> tranny???
>
> Also, I've got some questions...
>
> The problem is that it is sometimes hard or impossible to shift. The
> stick just won't budge. Then I'll do something like turn off the A/C
> and all of a sudden, it works.
>
> Problem solved? Don't use the AC...
>
> Unfortunately, the problem came back later today with the AC off. I
> couldn't get the Jeep out of reverse. I was pushing the clutch pedal
> all the way in and the shifter wouldnt move. Actually, the car was
> slowly moving backward as if the clutch was barely engaged.
>
> Out of frustration, I turned off the ignition, released the clutch,
> released the break and the car rolled forward in gear. I then turned
> on the ignition and the problem was gone...
>
> Any thoughts or ideas?
>
> The thing that gets me is that it is intermittant.
>
> Thanks
>
> Tom


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 09-07-2004 12:44 AM

Re: 96 Cherokee "Clutch" problem
 
Hi Tom,
A bad clutch master cylinder will be intermittent, depending on if
the worn out cup catches a charge of fluid or not. You might be able to
feel it pump up if you peddle it a couple of times before you attempt to
shift gears.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Smarny wrote:
>
> Hey folks,
>
> I've got a 6 Cherokee Sport. 4.0, 5-speed, 4WD...
>
> The problem is that the clutch sometimes won't engage when the pedal
> is pushed all the way in.
>
> Manuals says to 1st check the fluid level in the master cylendar.
> It's full.
>
> Other problems cited are fluid on the clutch plate, throw out bearing,
> bad spring etc. Reasonable things to check but before dropping the
> tranny???
>
> Also, I've got some questions...
>
> The problem is that it is sometimes hard or impossible to shift. The
> stick just won't budge. Then I'll do something like turn off the A/C
> and all of a sudden, it works.
>
> Problem solved? Don't use the AC...
>
> Unfortunately, the problem came back later today with the AC off. I
> couldn't get the Jeep out of reverse. I was pushing the clutch pedal
> all the way in and the shifter wouldnt move. Actually, the car was
> slowly moving backward as if the clutch was barely engaged.
>
> Out of frustration, I turned off the ignition, released the clutch,
> released the break and the car rolled forward in gear. I then turned
> on the ignition and the problem was gone...
>
> Any thoughts or ideas?
>
> The thing that gets me is that it is intermittant.
>
> Thanks
>
> Tom


Smarny 09-20-2004 08:07 PM

Re: 96 Cherokee "Clutch" problem
 
Thanks Bill:

I unbolted the slave which was easy enough, but can see no simple way
to disconnect the hydraulic line. The manual shows a threaded fitting
to attach to the slave and master. Mine has a different fitting
altogether and I can see no way to disconnect it. It sounds to me like
they want me to replace both as a unit. I found a kit online that
looks suspiciously like mine. Does this sound familiar?

I'm not opposed to replacing both if I have to. Just wondering.

Thanks

TWR


L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:<413D3C93.9A286B9C@cox.net>...
> Hi Tom,
> A bad clutch master cylinder will be intermittent, depending on if
> the worn out cup catches a charge of fluid or not. You might be able to
> feel it pump up if you peddle it a couple of times before you attempt to
> shift gears.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Smarny wrote:
> >
> > Hey folks,
> >
> > I've got a 6 Cherokee Sport. 4.0, 5-speed, 4WD...
> >
> > The problem is that the clutch sometimes won't engage when the pedal
> > is pushed all the way in.
> >
> > Manuals says to 1st check the fluid level in the master cylendar.
> > It's full.
> >
> > Other problems cited are fluid on the clutch plate, throw out bearing,
> > bad spring etc. Reasonable things to check but before dropping the
> > tranny???
> >
> > Also, I've got some questions...
> >
> > The problem is that it is sometimes hard or impossible to shift. The
> > stick just won't budge. Then I'll do something like turn off the A/C
> > and all of a sudden, it works.
> >
> > Problem solved? Don't use the AC...
> >
> > Unfortunately, the problem came back later today with the AC off. I
> > couldn't get the Jeep out of reverse. I was pushing the clutch pedal
> > all the way in and the shifter wouldnt move. Actually, the car was
> > slowly moving backward as if the clutch was barely engaged.
> >
> > Out of frustration, I turned off the ignition, released the clutch,
> > released the break and the car rolled forward in gear. I then turned
> > on the ignition and the problem was gone...
> >
> > Any thoughts or ideas?
> >
> > The thing that gets me is that it is intermittant.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Tom


Smarny 09-20-2004 08:07 PM

Re: 96 Cherokee "Clutch" problem
 
Thanks Bill:

I unbolted the slave which was easy enough, but can see no simple way
to disconnect the hydraulic line. The manual shows a threaded fitting
to attach to the slave and master. Mine has a different fitting
altogether and I can see no way to disconnect it. It sounds to me like
they want me to replace both as a unit. I found a kit online that
looks suspiciously like mine. Does this sound familiar?

I'm not opposed to replacing both if I have to. Just wondering.

Thanks

TWR


L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:<413D3C93.9A286B9C@cox.net>...
> Hi Tom,
> A bad clutch master cylinder will be intermittent, depending on if
> the worn out cup catches a charge of fluid or not. You might be able to
> feel it pump up if you peddle it a couple of times before you attempt to
> shift gears.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Smarny wrote:
> >
> > Hey folks,
> >
> > I've got a 6 Cherokee Sport. 4.0, 5-speed, 4WD...
> >
> > The problem is that the clutch sometimes won't engage when the pedal
> > is pushed all the way in.
> >
> > Manuals says to 1st check the fluid level in the master cylendar.
> > It's full.
> >
> > Other problems cited are fluid on the clutch plate, throw out bearing,
> > bad spring etc. Reasonable things to check but before dropping the
> > tranny???
> >
> > Also, I've got some questions...
> >
> > The problem is that it is sometimes hard or impossible to shift. The
> > stick just won't budge. Then I'll do something like turn off the A/C
> > and all of a sudden, it works.
> >
> > Problem solved? Don't use the AC...
> >
> > Unfortunately, the problem came back later today with the AC off. I
> > couldn't get the Jeep out of reverse. I was pushing the clutch pedal
> > all the way in and the shifter wouldnt move. Actually, the car was
> > slowly moving backward as if the clutch was barely engaged.
> >
> > Out of frustration, I turned off the ignition, released the clutch,
> > released the break and the car rolled forward in gear. I then turned
> > on the ignition and the problem was gone...
> >
> > Any thoughts or ideas?
> >
> > The thing that gets me is that it is intermittant.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Tom


Smarny 09-20-2004 08:07 PM

Re: 96 Cherokee "Clutch" problem
 
Thanks Bill:

I unbolted the slave which was easy enough, but can see no simple way
to disconnect the hydraulic line. The manual shows a threaded fitting
to attach to the slave and master. Mine has a different fitting
altogether and I can see no way to disconnect it. It sounds to me like
they want me to replace both as a unit. I found a kit online that
looks suspiciously like mine. Does this sound familiar?

I'm not opposed to replacing both if I have to. Just wondering.

Thanks

TWR


L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:<413D3C93.9A286B9C@cox.net>...
> Hi Tom,
> A bad clutch master cylinder will be intermittent, depending on if
> the worn out cup catches a charge of fluid or not. You might be able to
> feel it pump up if you peddle it a couple of times before you attempt to
> shift gears.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Smarny wrote:
> >
> > Hey folks,
> >
> > I've got a 6 Cherokee Sport. 4.0, 5-speed, 4WD...
> >
> > The problem is that the clutch sometimes won't engage when the pedal
> > is pushed all the way in.
> >
> > Manuals says to 1st check the fluid level in the master cylendar.
> > It's full.
> >
> > Other problems cited are fluid on the clutch plate, throw out bearing,
> > bad spring etc. Reasonable things to check but before dropping the
> > tranny???
> >
> > Also, I've got some questions...
> >
> > The problem is that it is sometimes hard or impossible to shift. The
> > stick just won't budge. Then I'll do something like turn off the A/C
> > and all of a sudden, it works.
> >
> > Problem solved? Don't use the AC...
> >
> > Unfortunately, the problem came back later today with the AC off. I
> > couldn't get the Jeep out of reverse. I was pushing the clutch pedal
> > all the way in and the shifter wouldnt move. Actually, the car was
> > slowly moving backward as if the clutch was barely engaged.
> >
> > Out of frustration, I turned off the ignition, released the clutch,
> > released the break and the car rolled forward in gear. I then turned
> > on the ignition and the problem was gone...
> >
> > Any thoughts or ideas?
> >
> > The thing that gets me is that it is intermittant.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Tom


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 09-20-2004 08:49 PM

Re: 96 Cherokee "Clutch" problem
 
Bummer.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Smarny wrote:
>
> Thanks Bill:
>
> I unbolted the slave which was easy enough, but can see no simple way
> to disconnect the hydraulic line. The manual shows a threaded fitting
> to attach to the slave and master. Mine has a different fitting
> altogether and I can see no way to disconnect it. It sounds to me like
> they want me to replace both as a unit. I found a kit online that
> looks suspiciously like mine. Does this sound familiar?
>
> I'm not opposed to replacing both if I have to. Just wondering.
>
> Thanks
>
> TWR
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:<413D3C93.9A286B9C@cox.net>...
> > Hi Tom,
> > A bad clutch master cylinder will be intermittent, depending on if
> > the worn out cup catches a charge of fluid or not. You might be able to
> > feel it pump up if you peddle it a couple of times before you attempt to
> > shift gears.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Smarny wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey folks,
> > >
> > > I've got a 6 Cherokee Sport. 4.0, 5-speed, 4WD...
> > >
> > > The problem is that the clutch sometimes won't engage when the pedal
> > > is pushed all the way in.
> > >
> > > Manuals says to 1st check the fluid level in the master cylendar.
> > > It's full.
> > >
> > > Other problems cited are fluid on the clutch plate, throw out bearing,
> > > bad spring etc. Reasonable things to check but before dropping the
> > > tranny???
> > >
> > > Also, I've got some questions...
> > >
> > > The problem is that it is sometimes hard or impossible to shift. The
> > > stick just won't budge. Then I'll do something like turn off the A/C
> > > and all of a sudden, it works.
> > >
> > > Problem solved? Don't use the AC...
> > >
> > > Unfortunately, the problem came back later today with the AC off. I
> > > couldn't get the Jeep out of reverse. I was pushing the clutch pedal
> > > all the way in and the shifter wouldnt move. Actually, the car was
> > > slowly moving backward as if the clutch was barely engaged.
> > >
> > > Out of frustration, I turned off the ignition, released the clutch,
> > > released the break and the car rolled forward in gear. I then turned
> > > on the ignition and the problem was gone...
> > >
> > > Any thoughts or ideas?
> > >
> > > The thing that gets me is that it is intermittant.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Tom


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 09-20-2004 08:49 PM

Re: 96 Cherokee "Clutch" problem
 
Bummer.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Smarny wrote:
>
> Thanks Bill:
>
> I unbolted the slave which was easy enough, but can see no simple way
> to disconnect the hydraulic line. The manual shows a threaded fitting
> to attach to the slave and master. Mine has a different fitting
> altogether and I can see no way to disconnect it. It sounds to me like
> they want me to replace both as a unit. I found a kit online that
> looks suspiciously like mine. Does this sound familiar?
>
> I'm not opposed to replacing both if I have to. Just wondering.
>
> Thanks
>
> TWR
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:<413D3C93.9A286B9C@cox.net>...
> > Hi Tom,
> > A bad clutch master cylinder will be intermittent, depending on if
> > the worn out cup catches a charge of fluid or not. You might be able to
> > feel it pump up if you peddle it a couple of times before you attempt to
> > shift gears.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Smarny wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey folks,
> > >
> > > I've got a 6 Cherokee Sport. 4.0, 5-speed, 4WD...
> > >
> > > The problem is that the clutch sometimes won't engage when the pedal
> > > is pushed all the way in.
> > >
> > > Manuals says to 1st check the fluid level in the master cylendar.
> > > It's full.
> > >
> > > Other problems cited are fluid on the clutch plate, throw out bearing,
> > > bad spring etc. Reasonable things to check but before dropping the
> > > tranny???
> > >
> > > Also, I've got some questions...
> > >
> > > The problem is that it is sometimes hard or impossible to shift. The
> > > stick just won't budge. Then I'll do something like turn off the A/C
> > > and all of a sudden, it works.
> > >
> > > Problem solved? Don't use the AC...
> > >
> > > Unfortunately, the problem came back later today with the AC off. I
> > > couldn't get the Jeep out of reverse. I was pushing the clutch pedal
> > > all the way in and the shifter wouldnt move. Actually, the car was
> > > slowly moving backward as if the clutch was barely engaged.
> > >
> > > Out of frustration, I turned off the ignition, released the clutch,
> > > released the break and the car rolled forward in gear. I then turned
> > > on the ignition and the problem was gone...
> > >
> > > Any thoughts or ideas?
> > >
> > > The thing that gets me is that it is intermittant.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Tom


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 09-20-2004 08:49 PM

Re: 96 Cherokee "Clutch" problem
 
Bummer.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Smarny wrote:
>
> Thanks Bill:
>
> I unbolted the slave which was easy enough, but can see no simple way
> to disconnect the hydraulic line. The manual shows a threaded fitting
> to attach to the slave and master. Mine has a different fitting
> altogether and I can see no way to disconnect it. It sounds to me like
> they want me to replace both as a unit. I found a kit online that
> looks suspiciously like mine. Does this sound familiar?
>
> I'm not opposed to replacing both if I have to. Just wondering.
>
> Thanks
>
> TWR
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:<413D3C93.9A286B9C@cox.net>...
> > Hi Tom,
> > A bad clutch master cylinder will be intermittent, depending on if
> > the worn out cup catches a charge of fluid or not. You might be able to
> > feel it pump up if you peddle it a couple of times before you attempt to
> > shift gears.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Smarny wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey folks,
> > >
> > > I've got a 6 Cherokee Sport. 4.0, 5-speed, 4WD...
> > >
> > > The problem is that the clutch sometimes won't engage when the pedal
> > > is pushed all the way in.
> > >
> > > Manuals says to 1st check the fluid level in the master cylendar.
> > > It's full.
> > >
> > > Other problems cited are fluid on the clutch plate, throw out bearing,
> > > bad spring etc. Reasonable things to check but before dropping the
> > > tranny???
> > >
> > > Also, I've got some questions...
> > >
> > > The problem is that it is sometimes hard or impossible to shift. The
> > > stick just won't budge. Then I'll do something like turn off the A/C
> > > and all of a sudden, it works.
> > >
> > > Problem solved? Don't use the AC...
> > >
> > > Unfortunately, the problem came back later today with the AC off. I
> > > couldn't get the Jeep out of reverse. I was pushing the clutch pedal
> > > all the way in and the shifter wouldnt move. Actually, the car was
> > > slowly moving backward as if the clutch was barely engaged.
> > >
> > > Out of frustration, I turned off the ignition, released the clutch,
> > > released the break and the car rolled forward in gear. I then turned
> > > on the ignition and the problem was gone...
> > >
> > > Any thoughts or ideas?
> > >
> > > The thing that gets me is that it is intermittant.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Tom



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