'95 YJ alternator(?)problem
OK, so I'm driving to work. Cruising along, not a care in the world
at about 60mph. All of a sudden the Check Engine light comes on. Upon looking at the gauges, I discover that the dash lights are dim and the volt gauge shows that the alternator is not charging. Just from habit, I push in the clutch and rev the engine. The volt gauge goes back to 14.5v and the dash lights get bright again. Of course the CE light stays on. Continued on towards home and this repeats itself a couple of times and then, the last 30 miles were trouble free. Got home and checked the codes. The only one I got that was new was a 41(or maybe 42, I've slept since last night). "alt field open or shorted" Now, I heard a nasty rumour that DC put the voltage reg in the 'puter on these Jeeps and not in the alt., although my book(a Chilton's)says different. Am I looking at a wiring problem or possible failure of the alternator or ECM? I know it would be a lot easier to diagnose if it'd quit altogether, but I'd rather not have to go through the "dead on the side of the road" stage, as the weather around here is supposed to turn nasty and I've still got the 135 mile round trip to work to do every day until Friday. Oh, and what's with the damned thing throwing an a/c clutch relay code, when it doesn't and never did have a/c? -- Old Crow '82 Shovelhead FLTC 92" 'Pearl' '95 Jeep Wrangler YJ TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51, SPONGER#2 |
Re: '95 YJ alternator(?)problem
Old Crow did pass the time by typing:
> Got home and checked the codes. The only one I got that was new was a > 41(or maybe 42, I've slept since last night). "alt field open or > shorted" Loose/dirty connection probably > Now, I heard a nasty rumour that DC put the voltage reg in the 'puter > on these Jeeps and not in the alt., although my book(a Chilton's)says > different. On the ZJs at least it's part of the ECU. But with what your describing I'd check for loose connections first. Last time I had that problem I gave the battery cable a tug and it popped out. > Oh, and what's with the damned thing throwing an a/c clutch relay > code, when it doesn't and never did have a/c? The A/C fault code on a non A/C equipped vehicle is normal. It's always there, just won't turn the CE light on. -- DougW |
Re: '95 YJ alternator(?)problem
Old Crow did pass the time by typing:
> Got home and checked the codes. The only one I got that was new was a > 41(or maybe 42, I've slept since last night). "alt field open or > shorted" Loose/dirty connection probably > Now, I heard a nasty rumour that DC put the voltage reg in the 'puter > on these Jeeps and not in the alt., although my book(a Chilton's)says > different. On the ZJs at least it's part of the ECU. But with what your describing I'd check for loose connections first. Last time I had that problem I gave the battery cable a tug and it popped out. > Oh, and what's with the damned thing throwing an a/c clutch relay > code, when it doesn't and never did have a/c? The A/C fault code on a non A/C equipped vehicle is normal. It's always there, just won't turn the CE light on. -- DougW |
Re: '95 YJ alternator(?)problem
Old Crow did pass the time by typing:
> Got home and checked the codes. The only one I got that was new was a > 41(or maybe 42, I've slept since last night). "alt field open or > shorted" Loose/dirty connection probably > Now, I heard a nasty rumour that DC put the voltage reg in the 'puter > on these Jeeps and not in the alt., although my book(a Chilton's)says > different. On the ZJs at least it's part of the ECU. But with what your describing I'd check for loose connections first. Last time I had that problem I gave the battery cable a tug and it popped out. > Oh, and what's with the damned thing throwing an a/c clutch relay > code, when it doesn't and never did have a/c? The A/C fault code on a non A/C equipped vehicle is normal. It's always there, just won't turn the CE light on. -- DougW |
Re: '95 YJ alternator(?)problem
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 06:30:58 -0600, "DougW"
<post.replies@invalid.address> wrote: >Old Crow did pass the time by typing: > >> Got home and checked the codes. The only one I got that was new was a >> 41(or maybe 42, I've slept since last night). "alt field open or >> shorted" > >Loose/dirty connection probably > >> Now, I heard a nasty rumour that DC put the voltage reg in the 'puter >> on these Jeeps and not in the alt., although my book(a Chilton's)says >> different. > >On the ZJs at least it's part of the ECU. But with what your describing >I'd check for loose connections first. Last time I had that problem I gave >the battery cable a tug and it popped out. Well, due to our snowstorm, I had time over the holidays to look at the damned thing. Took the connections at the alt loose, sanded them and re-installed the alt, also set the belt a bit tighter than it had been. Took the battery loose(actually the first step<g.), and cleaned all the connections. Drove over to a friend's house last night(80 mile round trip)and got home without the alternator doing anything funny. So maybe it's fixed. I'll be more confident tonight after I get home from work, as I really didn't see anything amiss while I was fussing with it. -- Old Crow '82 Shovelhead FLTC 92" 'Pearl' '95 Jeep Wrangler YJ TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51, SPONGER#2 |
Re: '95 YJ alternator(?)problem
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 06:30:58 -0600, "DougW"
<post.replies@invalid.address> wrote: >Old Crow did pass the time by typing: > >> Got home and checked the codes. The only one I got that was new was a >> 41(or maybe 42, I've slept since last night). "alt field open or >> shorted" > >Loose/dirty connection probably > >> Now, I heard a nasty rumour that DC put the voltage reg in the 'puter >> on these Jeeps and not in the alt., although my book(a Chilton's)says >> different. > >On the ZJs at least it's part of the ECU. But with what your describing >I'd check for loose connections first. Last time I had that problem I gave >the battery cable a tug and it popped out. Well, due to our snowstorm, I had time over the holidays to look at the damned thing. Took the connections at the alt loose, sanded them and re-installed the alt, also set the belt a bit tighter than it had been. Took the battery loose(actually the first step<g.), and cleaned all the connections. Drove over to a friend's house last night(80 mile round trip)and got home without the alternator doing anything funny. So maybe it's fixed. I'll be more confident tonight after I get home from work, as I really didn't see anything amiss while I was fussing with it. -- Old Crow '82 Shovelhead FLTC 92" 'Pearl' '95 Jeep Wrangler YJ TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51, SPONGER#2 |
Re: '95 YJ alternator(?)problem
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 06:30:58 -0600, "DougW"
<post.replies@invalid.address> wrote: >Old Crow did pass the time by typing: > >> Got home and checked the codes. The only one I got that was new was a >> 41(or maybe 42, I've slept since last night). "alt field open or >> shorted" > >Loose/dirty connection probably > >> Now, I heard a nasty rumour that DC put the voltage reg in the 'puter >> on these Jeeps and not in the alt., although my book(a Chilton's)says >> different. > >On the ZJs at least it's part of the ECU. But with what your describing >I'd check for loose connections first. Last time I had that problem I gave >the battery cable a tug and it popped out. Well, due to our snowstorm, I had time over the holidays to look at the damned thing. Took the connections at the alt loose, sanded them and re-installed the alt, also set the belt a bit tighter than it had been. Took the battery loose(actually the first step<g.), and cleaned all the connections. Drove over to a friend's house last night(80 mile round trip)and got home without the alternator doing anything funny. So maybe it's fixed. I'll be more confident tonight after I get home from work, as I really didn't see anything amiss while I was fussing with it. -- Old Crow '82 Shovelhead FLTC 92" 'Pearl' '95 Jeep Wrangler YJ TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51, SPONGER#2 |
Re: '95 YJ alternator(?)problem
Old Crow wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 06:30:58 -0600, "DougW" > <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote: > > >>Old Crow did pass the time by typing: >> >> >>>Got home and checked the codes. The only one I got that was new was a >>>41(or maybe 42, I've slept since last night). "alt field open or >>>shorted" >> >>Loose/dirty connection probably >> >> >>>Now, I heard a nasty rumour that DC put the voltage reg in the 'puter >>>on these Jeeps and not in the alt., although my book(a Chilton's)says >>>different. >> >>On the ZJs at least it's part of the ECU. But with what your describing >>I'd check for loose connections first. Last time I had that problem I gave >>the battery cable a tug and it popped out. > > > Well, due to our snowstorm, I had time over the holidays to look at > the damned thing. > Took the connections at the alt loose, sanded them and re-installed > the alt, also set the belt a bit tighter than it had been. > Took the battery loose(actually the first step<g.), and cleaned all > the connections. Drove over to a friend's house last night(80 mile > round trip)and got home without the alternator doing anything funny. > So maybe it's fixed. I'll be more confident tonight after I get home > from work, as I really didn't see anything amiss while I was fussing > with it. > > -- > Old Crow > '82 Shovelhead FLTC 92" 'Pearl' > '95 Jeep Wrangler YJ > TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51, SPONGER#2 ok, i just had this problem in my 93 yj. last monday night was barely over 0 degrees. the next morning, still only 2 degrees. i noticed i was getting no charging at all. about 10 minutes after starting, then my charge came back. it hasn't happened since (temps were over 25 all week). tonight is going to be around 0 again, i will see what happens. -- Ben Jerew ASE Master Technician New Country Lexus of Latham, NY Amateur Off-Roader |
Re: '95 YJ alternator(?)problem
Old Crow wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 06:30:58 -0600, "DougW" > <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote: > > >>Old Crow did pass the time by typing: >> >> >>>Got home and checked the codes. The only one I got that was new was a >>>41(or maybe 42, I've slept since last night). "alt field open or >>>shorted" >> >>Loose/dirty connection probably >> >> >>>Now, I heard a nasty rumour that DC put the voltage reg in the 'puter >>>on these Jeeps and not in the alt., although my book(a Chilton's)says >>>different. >> >>On the ZJs at least it's part of the ECU. But with what your describing >>I'd check for loose connections first. Last time I had that problem I gave >>the battery cable a tug and it popped out. > > > Well, due to our snowstorm, I had time over the holidays to look at > the damned thing. > Took the connections at the alt loose, sanded them and re-installed > the alt, also set the belt a bit tighter than it had been. > Took the battery loose(actually the first step<g.), and cleaned all > the connections. Drove over to a friend's house last night(80 mile > round trip)and got home without the alternator doing anything funny. > So maybe it's fixed. I'll be more confident tonight after I get home > from work, as I really didn't see anything amiss while I was fussing > with it. > > -- > Old Crow > '82 Shovelhead FLTC 92" 'Pearl' > '95 Jeep Wrangler YJ > TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51, SPONGER#2 ok, i just had this problem in my 93 yj. last monday night was barely over 0 degrees. the next morning, still only 2 degrees. i noticed i was getting no charging at all. about 10 minutes after starting, then my charge came back. it hasn't happened since (temps were over 25 all week). tonight is going to be around 0 again, i will see what happens. -- Ben Jerew ASE Master Technician New Country Lexus of Latham, NY Amateur Off-Roader |
Re: '95 YJ alternator(?)problem
Old Crow wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 06:30:58 -0600, "DougW" > <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote: > > >>Old Crow did pass the time by typing: >> >> >>>Got home and checked the codes. The only one I got that was new was a >>>41(or maybe 42, I've slept since last night). "alt field open or >>>shorted" >> >>Loose/dirty connection probably >> >> >>>Now, I heard a nasty rumour that DC put the voltage reg in the 'puter >>>on these Jeeps and not in the alt., although my book(a Chilton's)says >>>different. >> >>On the ZJs at least it's part of the ECU. But with what your describing >>I'd check for loose connections first. Last time I had that problem I gave >>the battery cable a tug and it popped out. > > > Well, due to our snowstorm, I had time over the holidays to look at > the damned thing. > Took the connections at the alt loose, sanded them and re-installed > the alt, also set the belt a bit tighter than it had been. > Took the battery loose(actually the first step<g.), and cleaned all > the connections. Drove over to a friend's house last night(80 mile > round trip)and got home without the alternator doing anything funny. > So maybe it's fixed. I'll be more confident tonight after I get home > from work, as I really didn't see anything amiss while I was fussing > with it. > > -- > Old Crow > '82 Shovelhead FLTC 92" 'Pearl' > '95 Jeep Wrangler YJ > TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51, SPONGER#2 ok, i just had this problem in my 93 yj. last monday night was barely over 0 degrees. the next morning, still only 2 degrees. i noticed i was getting no charging at all. about 10 minutes after starting, then my charge came back. it hasn't happened since (temps were over 25 all week). tonight is going to be around 0 again, i will see what happens. -- Ben Jerew ASE Master Technician New Country Lexus of Latham, NY Amateur Off-Roader |
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