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Peter Bogiatzidis 02-13-2007 07:58 AM

Re: '95 Cherokee Sport - Courtesy lights stay on
 
That's not the problem. When I tested the new headlight switch for proper
operation I could see a noticeable flicker when it was turned to that
position. As I stated in my original post, the courtesy lights stay on
without a headlight switch installed. I'm thinking maybe there's possibly a
relay that's stuck, but haven't found out if there is one in the circuit or
not.

Thanks for replying.

"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:45d0ebe8$0$16312$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> Turn the light switch knob back to dash lights, bright.
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "Peter Bogiatzidis" <pbogi@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:z03Ah.7258$gj4.5533@newssvr14.news.prodigy.ne t...
>> Hello,
>>
>> I've tried searching for help with this problem without any success and

> was
>> hoping to find some help here in this group.
>>
>> The other day, I replaced the headlight switch on the above vehicle ('95
>> Cherokee Sport) for a friend, who had broken the old one by pulling out

> the
>> knob out too far. Something must have broken inside, as there was no way
>> that the knob would seat back in the switch. Luckily, however, it had

> broken
>> with the headlights in the off position.
>>
>> A strange thing occurred though. Upon returning with the new part, I

> noticed
>> that the interior courtesy lights where on. This was without the old

> switch
>> being in place. I proceeded with the installation of the new switch and
>> checked for proper headlight operation. Everything worked fine. The dash
>> lights, along with both high and low beams, and the blue high beam

> indicator
>> were functioning at that point.
>>
>> The problem is that the courtesy lights still won't turn off. I've tried
>> looking for a stuck door switch or a possible pinched wire near the
>> headlight switch, but couldn't find anything wrong. Keep in mind that the
>> courtesy lights were on by themselves without a headlight switch

> installed.
>> So, I'm thinking that it must just be a strange coincidence and have

> nothing
>> to do with the new switch.
>>
>> In order to not kill the battery, I pulled the fuse, which was labeled "9
>> Batt". That, not only, turned off the courtesy lights, but also, the
>> clock
>> and the power door locks. All lights and signals work fine, so the
>> vehicle
>> is safe to drive.
>>
>> Does anyone in the group have any ideas as to what may be going on here
>> or
>> what else to check? I would appreciate any help that anyone has to offer.
>>
>> Thanks in advance to those who post a reply here to the group.
>>
>> Peter.
>>
>>

>
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>




Peter Bogiatzidis 02-13-2007 07:58 AM

Re: '95 Cherokee Sport - Courtesy lights stay on
 
That's not the problem. When I tested the new headlight switch for proper
operation I could see a noticeable flicker when it was turned to that
position. As I stated in my original post, the courtesy lights stay on
without a headlight switch installed. I'm thinking maybe there's possibly a
relay that's stuck, but haven't found out if there is one in the circuit or
not.

Thanks for replying.

"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:45d0ebe8$0$16312$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> Turn the light switch knob back to dash lights, bright.
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "Peter Bogiatzidis" <pbogi@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:z03Ah.7258$gj4.5533@newssvr14.news.prodigy.ne t...
>> Hello,
>>
>> I've tried searching for help with this problem without any success and

> was
>> hoping to find some help here in this group.
>>
>> The other day, I replaced the headlight switch on the above vehicle ('95
>> Cherokee Sport) for a friend, who had broken the old one by pulling out

> the
>> knob out too far. Something must have broken inside, as there was no way
>> that the knob would seat back in the switch. Luckily, however, it had

> broken
>> with the headlights in the off position.
>>
>> A strange thing occurred though. Upon returning with the new part, I

> noticed
>> that the interior courtesy lights where on. This was without the old

> switch
>> being in place. I proceeded with the installation of the new switch and
>> checked for proper headlight operation. Everything worked fine. The dash
>> lights, along with both high and low beams, and the blue high beam

> indicator
>> were functioning at that point.
>>
>> The problem is that the courtesy lights still won't turn off. I've tried
>> looking for a stuck door switch or a possible pinched wire near the
>> headlight switch, but couldn't find anything wrong. Keep in mind that the
>> courtesy lights were on by themselves without a headlight switch

> installed.
>> So, I'm thinking that it must just be a strange coincidence and have

> nothing
>> to do with the new switch.
>>
>> In order to not kill the battery, I pulled the fuse, which was labeled "9
>> Batt". That, not only, turned off the courtesy lights, but also, the
>> clock
>> and the power door locks. All lights and signals work fine, so the
>> vehicle
>> is safe to drive.
>>
>> Does anyone in the group have any ideas as to what may be going on here
>> or
>> what else to check? I would appreciate any help that anyone has to offer.
>>
>> Thanks in advance to those who post a reply here to the group.
>>
>> Peter.
>>
>>

>
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>




Peter Bogiatzidis 02-13-2007 07:58 AM

Re: '95 Cherokee Sport - Courtesy lights stay on
 
That's not the problem. When I tested the new headlight switch for proper
operation I could see a noticeable flicker when it was turned to that
position. As I stated in my original post, the courtesy lights stay on
without a headlight switch installed. I'm thinking maybe there's possibly a
relay that's stuck, but haven't found out if there is one in the circuit or
not.

Thanks for replying.

"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:45d0ebe8$0$16312$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> Turn the light switch knob back to dash lights, bright.
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "Peter Bogiatzidis" <pbogi@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:z03Ah.7258$gj4.5533@newssvr14.news.prodigy.ne t...
>> Hello,
>>
>> I've tried searching for help with this problem without any success and

> was
>> hoping to find some help here in this group.
>>
>> The other day, I replaced the headlight switch on the above vehicle ('95
>> Cherokee Sport) for a friend, who had broken the old one by pulling out

> the
>> knob out too far. Something must have broken inside, as there was no way
>> that the knob would seat back in the switch. Luckily, however, it had

> broken
>> with the headlights in the off position.
>>
>> A strange thing occurred though. Upon returning with the new part, I

> noticed
>> that the interior courtesy lights where on. This was without the old

> switch
>> being in place. I proceeded with the installation of the new switch and
>> checked for proper headlight operation. Everything worked fine. The dash
>> lights, along with both high and low beams, and the blue high beam

> indicator
>> were functioning at that point.
>>
>> The problem is that the courtesy lights still won't turn off. I've tried
>> looking for a stuck door switch or a possible pinched wire near the
>> headlight switch, but couldn't find anything wrong. Keep in mind that the
>> courtesy lights were on by themselves without a headlight switch

> installed.
>> So, I'm thinking that it must just be a strange coincidence and have

> nothing
>> to do with the new switch.
>>
>> In order to not kill the battery, I pulled the fuse, which was labeled "9
>> Batt". That, not only, turned off the courtesy lights, but also, the
>> clock
>> and the power door locks. All lights and signals work fine, so the
>> vehicle
>> is safe to drive.
>>
>> Does anyone in the group have any ideas as to what may be going on here
>> or
>> what else to check? I would appreciate any help that anyone has to offer.
>>
>> Thanks in advance to those who post a reply here to the group.
>>
>> Peter.
>>
>>

>
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>




DougW 02-13-2007 06:12 PM

Re: '95 Cherokee Sport - Courtesy lights stay on
 
Peter Bogiatzidis wrote:
> That's not the problem. When I tested the new headlight switch for
> proper operation I could see a noticeable flicker when it was turned
> to that position. As I stated in my original post, the courtesy
> lights stay on without a headlight switch installed. I'm thinking
> maybe there's possibly a relay that's stuck, but haven't found out if
> there is one in the circuit or not.


In the ZJ the courtesy lights have a timer and relay that is supposed to
shut them off after the door closes + a few minutes. That relay is under
the glovebox bottom, but I don't think yours is in the same place.
Don't have a book for your year.

--
DougW



DougW 02-13-2007 06:12 PM

Re: '95 Cherokee Sport - Courtesy lights stay on
 
Peter Bogiatzidis wrote:
> That's not the problem. When I tested the new headlight switch for
> proper operation I could see a noticeable flicker when it was turned
> to that position. As I stated in my original post, the courtesy
> lights stay on without a headlight switch installed. I'm thinking
> maybe there's possibly a relay that's stuck, but haven't found out if
> there is one in the circuit or not.


In the ZJ the courtesy lights have a timer and relay that is supposed to
shut them off after the door closes + a few minutes. That relay is under
the glovebox bottom, but I don't think yours is in the same place.
Don't have a book for your year.

--
DougW



DougW 02-13-2007 06:12 PM

Re: '95 Cherokee Sport - Courtesy lights stay on
 
Peter Bogiatzidis wrote:
> That's not the problem. When I tested the new headlight switch for
> proper operation I could see a noticeable flicker when it was turned
> to that position. As I stated in my original post, the courtesy
> lights stay on without a headlight switch installed. I'm thinking
> maybe there's possibly a relay that's stuck, but haven't found out if
> there is one in the circuit or not.


In the ZJ the courtesy lights have a timer and relay that is supposed to
shut them off after the door closes + a few minutes. That relay is under
the glovebox bottom, but I don't think yours is in the same place.
Don't have a book for your year.

--
DougW



DougW 02-13-2007 06:12 PM

Re: '95 Cherokee Sport - Courtesy lights stay on
 
Peter Bogiatzidis wrote:
> That's not the problem. When I tested the new headlight switch for
> proper operation I could see a noticeable flicker when it was turned
> to that position. As I stated in my original post, the courtesy
> lights stay on without a headlight switch installed. I'm thinking
> maybe there's possibly a relay that's stuck, but haven't found out if
> there is one in the circuit or not.


In the ZJ the courtesy lights have a timer and relay that is supposed to
shut them off after the door closes + a few minutes. That relay is under
the glovebox bottom, but I don't think yours is in the same place.
Don't have a book for your year.

--
DougW



billy ray 02-13-2007 11:11 PM

Re: '95 Cherokee Sport - Courtesy lights stay on
 
From the '95 XJ FSM:
DOME/COURTESY LAMP SERVICE

INFORMATION-XJ

Voltage is applied at all times via the dome lamp

fuse to each of the interior lamp bulbs. The interior

lamp bulbs illuminate when they are connected to

body ground via the switch:

² Headlamp switch.

² Glove box switch.

² Door pillar switch.

² Liftgate switch (if the cargo lamp is ON).

If equipped with Security Alarm Module, refer to

Group 8Q, Vehicle Theft Security System.



It appears that if your lights are on full time that they are being grounded
somewhere other than through the switch.


"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:oBrAh.103284$5q6.91453@newsfe17.lga...
> Peter Bogiatzidis wrote:
>> That's not the problem. When I tested the new headlight switch for
>> proper operation I could see a noticeable flicker when it was turned
>> to that position. As I stated in my original post, the courtesy
>> lights stay on without a headlight switch installed. I'm thinking
>> maybe there's possibly a relay that's stuck, but haven't found out if
>> there is one in the circuit or not.

>
> In the ZJ the courtesy lights have a timer and relay that is supposed to
> shut them off after the door closes + a few minutes. That relay is under
> the glovebox bottom, but I don't think yours is in the same place.
> Don't have a book for your year.
>
> --
> DougW
>




billy ray 02-13-2007 11:11 PM

Re: '95 Cherokee Sport - Courtesy lights stay on
 
From the '95 XJ FSM:
DOME/COURTESY LAMP SERVICE

INFORMATION-XJ

Voltage is applied at all times via the dome lamp

fuse to each of the interior lamp bulbs. The interior

lamp bulbs illuminate when they are connected to

body ground via the switch:

² Headlamp switch.

² Glove box switch.

² Door pillar switch.

² Liftgate switch (if the cargo lamp is ON).

If equipped with Security Alarm Module, refer to

Group 8Q, Vehicle Theft Security System.



It appears that if your lights are on full time that they are being grounded
somewhere other than through the switch.


"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:oBrAh.103284$5q6.91453@newsfe17.lga...
> Peter Bogiatzidis wrote:
>> That's not the problem. When I tested the new headlight switch for
>> proper operation I could see a noticeable flicker when it was turned
>> to that position. As I stated in my original post, the courtesy
>> lights stay on without a headlight switch installed. I'm thinking
>> maybe there's possibly a relay that's stuck, but haven't found out if
>> there is one in the circuit or not.

>
> In the ZJ the courtesy lights have a timer and relay that is supposed to
> shut them off after the door closes + a few minutes. That relay is under
> the glovebox bottom, but I don't think yours is in the same place.
> Don't have a book for your year.
>
> --
> DougW
>




billy ray 02-13-2007 11:11 PM

Re: '95 Cherokee Sport - Courtesy lights stay on
 
From the '95 XJ FSM:
DOME/COURTESY LAMP SERVICE

INFORMATION-XJ

Voltage is applied at all times via the dome lamp

fuse to each of the interior lamp bulbs. The interior

lamp bulbs illuminate when they are connected to

body ground via the switch:

² Headlamp switch.

² Glove box switch.

² Door pillar switch.

² Liftgate switch (if the cargo lamp is ON).

If equipped with Security Alarm Module, refer to

Group 8Q, Vehicle Theft Security System.



It appears that if your lights are on full time that they are being grounded
somewhere other than through the switch.


"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:oBrAh.103284$5q6.91453@newsfe17.lga...
> Peter Bogiatzidis wrote:
>> That's not the problem. When I tested the new headlight switch for
>> proper operation I could see a noticeable flicker when it was turned
>> to that position. As I stated in my original post, the courtesy
>> lights stay on without a headlight switch installed. I'm thinking
>> maybe there's possibly a relay that's stuck, but haven't found out if
>> there is one in the circuit or not.

>
> In the ZJ the courtesy lights have a timer and relay that is supposed to
> shut them off after the door closes + a few minutes. That relay is under
> the glovebox bottom, but I don't think yours is in the same place.
> Don't have a book for your year.
>
> --
> DougW
>





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