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Re: 94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
Kapper94 proclaimed:
> On Jun 26, 12:22 pm, RoyJ <spaml...@microsoft.net> wrote: > >>Make sure you have the proper gear lube in the tranny. Flush and bleed >>the clutch hydraulic system. >> >>If those are OK, you have a problem with the clutch or the tranny. Quick >>test: put tranny in neutral, clutch out, rev to 1500 rpnm or so. Push >>the clutch in, wait for 5 seconds, try to put it in reverse (no synchros >>here). If it goes in quietly, good chance you have bad synchros on 4th >>gear. $$$$$$ for tranny work. If it grinds the gears going into reverse, >>the clutch is not disengaging fully. Look at bad master, slave, or >>clutch plate. >> >>Mileage and engine would help. >> >> > > > Odometer reads 108k. > I'll try that tonight. If it acts like the bad Synchros scenario you > described, is something an average guy could do with a manual in his > gerage? > Not rocket science. You'll want a good jack or some really strong buddies. If you swap the transmission, might as well redo the clutch while it is apart. Probably need a pilot tool, some places rent them but not hard to buy--used to align everything when you put it together to avoid vibration. If it is the tranny, see if you can identify the model transmission and ask here if the old Redline trick might keep it running for a while. |
Re: Re: 94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 15:26:55 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<----------@cox.net> wrote: > Nope, no one makes a puny 9" clutch disk to fit the NV3550 nor AX15: No, it is quite doable to install a AX15 in place of a AX5. Check out link below http://forum.snoman.com/viewtopic.php?t=240 ----------------- TheSnoMan.com |
Re: Re: 94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 15:26:55 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<----------@cox.net> wrote: > Nope, no one makes a puny 9" clutch disk to fit the NV3550 nor AX15: No, it is quite doable to install a AX15 in place of a AX5. Check out link below http://forum.snoman.com/viewtopic.php?t=240 ----------------- TheSnoMan.com |
Re: Re: 94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 15:26:55 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<----------@cox.net> wrote: > Nope, no one makes a puny 9" clutch disk to fit the NV3550 nor AX15: No, it is quite doable to install a AX15 in place of a AX5. Check out link below http://forum.snoman.com/viewtopic.php?t=240 ----------------- TheSnoMan.com |
Re: Re: 94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 15:26:55 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<----------@cox.net> wrote: > Nope, no one makes a puny 9" clutch disk to fit the NV3550 nor AX15: No, it is quite doable to install a AX15 in place of a AX5. Check out link below http://forum.snoman.com/viewtopic.php?t=240 ----------------- TheSnoMan.com |
Re: 94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
Correction: http://www.jeeps-offroad.com/articles/ax15swap.php
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Kapper94" <otten.kap@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1182893374.648153.154630@i38g2000prf.googlegr oups.com... > > > I have the 4cyl. Will the NV3550 be a direct bolt replacement for the > AX5? I'm beginning to have some buyers remorse. > Thanks for the help. > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: 94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
Correction: http://www.jeeps-offroad.com/articles/ax15swap.php
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Kapper94" <otten.kap@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1182893374.648153.154630@i38g2000prf.googlegr oups.com... > > > I have the 4cyl. Will the NV3550 be a direct bolt replacement for the > AX5? I'm beginning to have some buyers remorse. > Thanks for the help. > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: 94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
Correction: http://www.jeeps-offroad.com/articles/ax15swap.php
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Kapper94" <otten.kap@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1182893374.648153.154630@i38g2000prf.googlegr oups.com... > > > I have the 4cyl. Will the NV3550 be a direct bolt replacement for the > AX5? I'm beginning to have some buyers remorse. > Thanks for the help. > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: 94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
Correction: http://www.jeeps-offroad.com/articles/ax15swap.php
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Kapper94" <otten.kap@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1182893374.648153.154630@i38g2000prf.googlegr oups.com... > > > I have the 4cyl. Will the NV3550 be a direct bolt replacement for the > AX5? I'm beginning to have some buyers remorse. > Thanks for the help. > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: 94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
Kapper94 wrote:
> Hey Guys, > > I just a bought a 94 wrangler and now it grinds when shifitng into > 4th. What should I check before I refinance my house to pay a > professional to fix it. Any and all help or suggestions are greatly > appreciated. This is my first Jeep. Thanks > > Kap > They are extremely picky about the correct transmission fluid in them, even for a top up. If someone even topped it up with the wrong grade fluid, the syncros will act like they are dying. If it is a little low in fluid, same thing. The cheapest and easiest thing to do would be a fluid change, then you know for sure that isn't the issue. It is 'very' unusual for the tranny to go out on a 4 banger, but can happen. It 'sure' isn't worth jury rigging something else to fit when there are tons of them on the road so the wreckers should have good used one if you aren't up to a rebuild. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) |
Re: 94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
Kapper94 wrote:
> Hey Guys, > > I just a bought a 94 wrangler and now it grinds when shifitng into > 4th. What should I check before I refinance my house to pay a > professional to fix it. Any and all help or suggestions are greatly > appreciated. This is my first Jeep. Thanks > > Kap > They are extremely picky about the correct transmission fluid in them, even for a top up. If someone even topped it up with the wrong grade fluid, the syncros will act like they are dying. If it is a little low in fluid, same thing. The cheapest and easiest thing to do would be a fluid change, then you know for sure that isn't the issue. It is 'very' unusual for the tranny to go out on a 4 banger, but can happen. It 'sure' isn't worth jury rigging something else to fit when there are tons of them on the road so the wreckers should have good used one if you aren't up to a rebuild. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) |
Re: 94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
Kapper94 wrote:
> Hey Guys, > > I just a bought a 94 wrangler and now it grinds when shifitng into > 4th. What should I check before I refinance my house to pay a > professional to fix it. Any and all help or suggestions are greatly > appreciated. This is my first Jeep. Thanks > > Kap > They are extremely picky about the correct transmission fluid in them, even for a top up. If someone even topped it up with the wrong grade fluid, the syncros will act like they are dying. If it is a little low in fluid, same thing. The cheapest and easiest thing to do would be a fluid change, then you know for sure that isn't the issue. It is 'very' unusual for the tranny to go out on a 4 banger, but can happen. It 'sure' isn't worth jury rigging something else to fit when there are tons of them on the road so the wreckers should have good used one if you aren't up to a rebuild. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) |
Re: 94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
Kapper94 wrote:
> Hey Guys, > > I just a bought a 94 wrangler and now it grinds when shifitng into > 4th. What should I check before I refinance my house to pay a > professional to fix it. Any and all help or suggestions are greatly > appreciated. This is my first Jeep. Thanks > > Kap > They are extremely picky about the correct transmission fluid in them, even for a top up. If someone even topped it up with the wrong grade fluid, the syncros will act like they are dying. If it is a little low in fluid, same thing. The cheapest and easiest thing to do would be a fluid change, then you know for sure that isn't the issue. It is 'very' unusual for the tranny to go out on a 4 banger, but can happen. It 'sure' isn't worth jury rigging something else to fit when there are tons of them on the road so the wreckers should have good used one if you aren't up to a rebuild. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) |
Re: Re: 94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 09:59:29 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote: >It is 'very' unusual for the tranny to go out on a 4 banger, but can >happen. It is not that rare especail if you play hard off road with it > It 'sure' isn't worth jury rigging something else to fit when >there are tons of them on the road so the wreckers should have good used >one if you aren't up to a rebuild. Someone with your limited grasp would say something like this. The AX5 to AX15 upgrade swap is fairly popular and well knows to anyone that REALLY knows Jeeps and how to build them (unlike yourself). ----------------- TheSnoMan.com |
Re: Re: 94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 09:59:29 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote: >It is 'very' unusual for the tranny to go out on a 4 banger, but can >happen. It is not that rare especail if you play hard off road with it > It 'sure' isn't worth jury rigging something else to fit when >there are tons of them on the road so the wreckers should have good used >one if you aren't up to a rebuild. Someone with your limited grasp would say something like this. The AX5 to AX15 upgrade swap is fairly popular and well knows to anyone that REALLY knows Jeeps and how to build them (unlike yourself). ----------------- TheSnoMan.com |
Re: Re: 94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 09:59:29 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote: >It is 'very' unusual for the tranny to go out on a 4 banger, but can >happen. It is not that rare especail if you play hard off road with it > It 'sure' isn't worth jury rigging something else to fit when >there are tons of them on the road so the wreckers should have good used >one if you aren't up to a rebuild. Someone with your limited grasp would say something like this. The AX5 to AX15 upgrade swap is fairly popular and well knows to anyone that REALLY knows Jeeps and how to build them (unlike yourself). ----------------- TheSnoMan.com |
Re: Re: 94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 09:59:29 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote: >It is 'very' unusual for the tranny to go out on a 4 banger, but can >happen. It is not that rare especail if you play hard off road with it > It 'sure' isn't worth jury rigging something else to fit when >there are tons of them on the road so the wreckers should have good used >one if you aren't up to a rebuild. Someone with your limited grasp would say something like this. The AX5 to AX15 upgrade swap is fairly popular and well knows to anyone that REALLY knows Jeeps and how to build them (unlike yourself). ----------------- TheSnoMan.com |
Re: Re: 94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
How can you play hard with a four banger?????? They can't even maintain
traffic speed! God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message news:cfqa839afjb65tmnlks29ch4pc68u43684@4ax.com... > > It is not that rare especail if you play hard off road with it > > Someone with your limited grasp would say something like this. The AX5 > to AX15 upgrade swap is fairly popular and well knows to anyone that > REALLY knows Jeeps and how to build them (unlike yourself). > ----------------- > TheSnoMan.com -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Re: 94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
How can you play hard with a four banger?????? They can't even maintain
traffic speed! God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message news:cfqa839afjb65tmnlks29ch4pc68u43684@4ax.com... > > It is not that rare especail if you play hard off road with it > > Someone with your limited grasp would say something like this. The AX5 > to AX15 upgrade swap is fairly popular and well knows to anyone that > REALLY knows Jeeps and how to build them (unlike yourself). > ----------------- > TheSnoMan.com -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Re: 94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
How can you play hard with a four banger?????? They can't even maintain
traffic speed! God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message news:cfqa839afjb65tmnlks29ch4pc68u43684@4ax.com... > > It is not that rare especail if you play hard off road with it > > Someone with your limited grasp would say something like this. The AX5 > to AX15 upgrade swap is fairly popular and well knows to anyone that > REALLY knows Jeeps and how to build them (unlike yourself). > ----------------- > TheSnoMan.com -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Re: 94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
How can you play hard with a four banger?????? They can't even maintain
traffic speed! God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message news:cfqa839afjb65tmnlks29ch4pc68u43684@4ax.com... > > It is not that rare especail if you play hard off road with it > > Someone with your limited grasp would say something like this. The AX5 > to AX15 upgrade swap is fairly popular and well knows to anyone that > REALLY knows Jeeps and how to build them (unlike yourself). > ----------------- > TheSnoMan.com -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Re: Re: 94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 18:06:44 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote: > How can you play hard with a four banger?????? They can't even maintain >traffic speed! They only people that would say that are one with limited vision and understanding like you and Mike Romain. the AMC 2.5 does a fine job if it has propergearing for the load on it and it has good low speed torque for its size and is a sturdy engine. If you install big tires and a lift with stock gears it will no do well but if you take the time to regear it is will do a fine job. IWe have a 2000 cherokee with a 2.5 and a 5 speed we bought new and it has 81K miles on it now and it has stock tires and 4.10 gears and it does not lack at all in traffic. (it has even pulled a 2K trailer a few times around town without busting a gut) We drove a few 4.0 cheokee with 5 speeds before we bought the 2.5 one and I was not impressed by the overall performance on the 4.0 one with its stock factory 3.07 gears that requires a lot more clutch action to get rolling and uninspiring OD performance while the 2.5 one with 4.10 gear was more "fun" to drive in town where it sees most of its life. That little 2.5 will pull OD strongly from 30 MPH if you want it too. I never regreted getting a 2.5 in it and would do it over. It also get pretty good MPG for what it is with consistant very high teens to low 20's in urban/city traffic using A/C too. On highway it will do about 25 MPG and once got 27. I knew a guy that had one in a old wrangler with a lift and gears and it had 150K on it before he killed it when he sank it in a pond. It did a fine job until then. People that install lift and tires without gear will complain it is a bad motor because they lack the capacity to understand that you need proper gearing to match power curve to load. It is all about the gearing and effective gear ratio , not about using low range more and giving up 5th gear as people that do this really do not understand the bigger picture here. ----------------- TheSnoMan.com |
Re: Re: Re: 94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 18:06:44 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote: > How can you play hard with a four banger?????? They can't even maintain >traffic speed! They only people that would say that are one with limited vision and understanding like you and Mike Romain. the AMC 2.5 does a fine job if it has propergearing for the load on it and it has good low speed torque for its size and is a sturdy engine. If you install big tires and a lift with stock gears it will no do well but if you take the time to regear it is will do a fine job. IWe have a 2000 cherokee with a 2.5 and a 5 speed we bought new and it has 81K miles on it now and it has stock tires and 4.10 gears and it does not lack at all in traffic. (it has even pulled a 2K trailer a few times around town without busting a gut) We drove a few 4.0 cheokee with 5 speeds before we bought the 2.5 one and I was not impressed by the overall performance on the 4.0 one with its stock factory 3.07 gears that requires a lot more clutch action to get rolling and uninspiring OD performance while the 2.5 one with 4.10 gear was more "fun" to drive in town where it sees most of its life. That little 2.5 will pull OD strongly from 30 MPH if you want it too. I never regreted getting a 2.5 in it and would do it over. It also get pretty good MPG for what it is with consistant very high teens to low 20's in urban/city traffic using A/C too. On highway it will do about 25 MPG and once got 27. I knew a guy that had one in a old wrangler with a lift and gears and it had 150K on it before he killed it when he sank it in a pond. It did a fine job until then. People that install lift and tires without gear will complain it is a bad motor because they lack the capacity to understand that you need proper gearing to match power curve to load. It is all about the gearing and effective gear ratio , not about using low range more and giving up 5th gear as people that do this really do not understand the bigger picture here. ----------------- TheSnoMan.com |
Re: Re: Re: 94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 18:06:44 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote: > How can you play hard with a four banger?????? They can't even maintain >traffic speed! They only people that would say that are one with limited vision and understanding like you and Mike Romain. the AMC 2.5 does a fine job if it has propergearing for the load on it and it has good low speed torque for its size and is a sturdy engine. If you install big tires and a lift with stock gears it will no do well but if you take the time to regear it is will do a fine job. IWe have a 2000 cherokee with a 2.5 and a 5 speed we bought new and it has 81K miles on it now and it has stock tires and 4.10 gears and it does not lack at all in traffic. (it has even pulled a 2K trailer a few times around town without busting a gut) We drove a few 4.0 cheokee with 5 speeds before we bought the 2.5 one and I was not impressed by the overall performance on the 4.0 one with its stock factory 3.07 gears that requires a lot more clutch action to get rolling and uninspiring OD performance while the 2.5 one with 4.10 gear was more "fun" to drive in town where it sees most of its life. That little 2.5 will pull OD strongly from 30 MPH if you want it too. I never regreted getting a 2.5 in it and would do it over. It also get pretty good MPG for what it is with consistant very high teens to low 20's in urban/city traffic using A/C too. On highway it will do about 25 MPG and once got 27. I knew a guy that had one in a old wrangler with a lift and gears and it had 150K on it before he killed it when he sank it in a pond. It did a fine job until then. People that install lift and tires without gear will complain it is a bad motor because they lack the capacity to understand that you need proper gearing to match power curve to load. It is all about the gearing and effective gear ratio , not about using low range more and giving up 5th gear as people that do this really do not understand the bigger picture here. ----------------- TheSnoMan.com |
Re: Re: Re: 94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 18:06:44 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote: > How can you play hard with a four banger?????? They can't even maintain >traffic speed! They only people that would say that are one with limited vision and understanding like you and Mike Romain. the AMC 2.5 does a fine job if it has propergearing for the load on it and it has good low speed torque for its size and is a sturdy engine. If you install big tires and a lift with stock gears it will no do well but if you take the time to regear it is will do a fine job. IWe have a 2000 cherokee with a 2.5 and a 5 speed we bought new and it has 81K miles on it now and it has stock tires and 4.10 gears and it does not lack at all in traffic. (it has even pulled a 2K trailer a few times around town without busting a gut) We drove a few 4.0 cheokee with 5 speeds before we bought the 2.5 one and I was not impressed by the overall performance on the 4.0 one with its stock factory 3.07 gears that requires a lot more clutch action to get rolling and uninspiring OD performance while the 2.5 one with 4.10 gear was more "fun" to drive in town where it sees most of its life. That little 2.5 will pull OD strongly from 30 MPH if you want it too. I never regreted getting a 2.5 in it and would do it over. It also get pretty good MPG for what it is with consistant very high teens to low 20's in urban/city traffic using A/C too. On highway it will do about 25 MPG and once got 27. I knew a guy that had one in a old wrangler with a lift and gears and it had 150K on it before he killed it when he sank it in a pond. It did a fine job until then. People that install lift and tires without gear will complain it is a bad motor because they lack the capacity to understand that you need proper gearing to match power curve to load. It is all about the gearing and effective gear ratio , not about using low range more and giving up 5th gear as people that do this really do not understand the bigger picture here. ----------------- TheSnoMan.com |
Re: Re: Re: 94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
Well fortunately for stupid people like you, you don't have any
mountains like California: http://www.navicache.com/cgi-bin/db/...l?CacheID=8858 Nor Traffic speeds: http://www.dot.ca.gov/dist11/d11tmc/sdmap/showmap.html God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message news:iagc83p3l9ef58rlstpl1p386nek4b3jbd@4ax.com... > On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 18:06:44 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" > <LWBill------@------.net> wrote: > > > How can you play hard with a four banger?????? They can't even maintain > >traffic speed! > > They only people that would say that are one with limited vision and > understanding like you and Mike Romain. the AMC 2.5 does a fine job if > it has propergearing for the load on it and it has good low speed > torque for its size and is a sturdy engine. If you install big tires > and a lift with stock gears it will no do well but if you take the > time to regear it is will do a fine job. IWe have a 2000 cherokee with > a 2.5 and a 5 speed we bought new and it has 81K miles on it now and > it has stock tires and 4.10 gears and it does not lack at all in > traffic. (it has even pulled a 2K trailer a few times around town > without busting a gut) We drove a few 4.0 cheokee with 5 speeds before > we bought the 2.5 one and I was not impressed by the overall > performance on the 4.0 one with its stock factory 3.07 gears that > requires a lot more clutch action to get rolling and uninspiring OD > performance while the 2.5 one with 4.10 gear was more "fun" to drive > in town where it sees most of its life. That little 2.5 will pull OD > strongly from 30 MPH if you want it too. I never regreted getting a > 2.5 in it and would do it over. It also get pretty good MPG for what > it is with consistant very high teens to low 20's in urban/city > traffic using A/C too. On highway it will do about 25 MPG and once got > 27. I knew a guy that had one in a old wrangler with a lift and gears > and it had 150K on it before he killed it when he sank it in a pond. > It did a fine job until then. People that install lift and tires > without gear will complain it is a bad motor because they lack the > capacity to understand that you need proper gearing to match power > curve to load. It is all about the gearing and effective gear ratio , > not about using low range more and giving up 5th gear as people that > do this really do not understand the bigger picture here. > ----------------- > TheSnoMan.com -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Re: Re: 94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
Well fortunately for stupid people like you, you don't have any
mountains like California: http://www.navicache.com/cgi-bin/db/...l?CacheID=8858 Nor Traffic speeds: http://www.dot.ca.gov/dist11/d11tmc/sdmap/showmap.html God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message news:iagc83p3l9ef58rlstpl1p386nek4b3jbd@4ax.com... > On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 18:06:44 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" > <LWBill------@------.net> wrote: > > > How can you play hard with a four banger?????? They can't even maintain > >traffic speed! > > They only people that would say that are one with limited vision and > understanding like you and Mike Romain. the AMC 2.5 does a fine job if > it has propergearing for the load on it and it has good low speed > torque for its size and is a sturdy engine. If you install big tires > and a lift with stock gears it will no do well but if you take the > time to regear it is will do a fine job. IWe have a 2000 cherokee with > a 2.5 and a 5 speed we bought new and it has 81K miles on it now and > it has stock tires and 4.10 gears and it does not lack at all in > traffic. (it has even pulled a 2K trailer a few times around town > without busting a gut) We drove a few 4.0 cheokee with 5 speeds before > we bought the 2.5 one and I was not impressed by the overall > performance on the 4.0 one with its stock factory 3.07 gears that > requires a lot more clutch action to get rolling and uninspiring OD > performance while the 2.5 one with 4.10 gear was more "fun" to drive > in town where it sees most of its life. That little 2.5 will pull OD > strongly from 30 MPH if you want it too. I never regreted getting a > 2.5 in it and would do it over. It also get pretty good MPG for what > it is with consistant very high teens to low 20's in urban/city > traffic using A/C too. On highway it will do about 25 MPG and once got > 27. I knew a guy that had one in a old wrangler with a lift and gears > and it had 150K on it before he killed it when he sank it in a pond. > It did a fine job until then. People that install lift and tires > without gear will complain it is a bad motor because they lack the > capacity to understand that you need proper gearing to match power > curve to load. It is all about the gearing and effective gear ratio , > not about using low range more and giving up 5th gear as people that > do this really do not understand the bigger picture here. > ----------------- > TheSnoMan.com -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Re: Re: 94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
Well fortunately for stupid people like you, you don't have any
mountains like California: http://www.navicache.com/cgi-bin/db/...l?CacheID=8858 Nor Traffic speeds: http://www.dot.ca.gov/dist11/d11tmc/sdmap/showmap.html God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message news:iagc83p3l9ef58rlstpl1p386nek4b3jbd@4ax.com... > On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 18:06:44 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" > <LWBill------@------.net> wrote: > > > How can you play hard with a four banger?????? They can't even maintain > >traffic speed! > > They only people that would say that are one with limited vision and > understanding like you and Mike Romain. the AMC 2.5 does a fine job if > it has propergearing for the load on it and it has good low speed > torque for its size and is a sturdy engine. If you install big tires > and a lift with stock gears it will no do well but if you take the > time to regear it is will do a fine job. IWe have a 2000 cherokee with > a 2.5 and a 5 speed we bought new and it has 81K miles on it now and > it has stock tires and 4.10 gears and it does not lack at all in > traffic. (it has even pulled a 2K trailer a few times around town > without busting a gut) We drove a few 4.0 cheokee with 5 speeds before > we bought the 2.5 one and I was not impressed by the overall > performance on the 4.0 one with its stock factory 3.07 gears that > requires a lot more clutch action to get rolling and uninspiring OD > performance while the 2.5 one with 4.10 gear was more "fun" to drive > in town where it sees most of its life. That little 2.5 will pull OD > strongly from 30 MPH if you want it too. I never regreted getting a > 2.5 in it and would do it over. It also get pretty good MPG for what > it is with consistant very high teens to low 20's in urban/city > traffic using A/C too. On highway it will do about 25 MPG and once got > 27. I knew a guy that had one in a old wrangler with a lift and gears > and it had 150K on it before he killed it when he sank it in a pond. > It did a fine job until then. People that install lift and tires > without gear will complain it is a bad motor because they lack the > capacity to understand that you need proper gearing to match power > curve to load. It is all about the gearing and effective gear ratio , > not about using low range more and giving up 5th gear as people that > do this really do not understand the bigger picture here. > ----------------- > TheSnoMan.com -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Re: Re: 94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
Well fortunately for stupid people like you, you don't have any
mountains like California: http://www.navicache.com/cgi-bin/db/...l?CacheID=8858 Nor Traffic speeds: http://www.dot.ca.gov/dist11/d11tmc/sdmap/showmap.html God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message news:iagc83p3l9ef58rlstpl1p386nek4b3jbd@4ax.com... > On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 18:06:44 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" > <LWBill------@------.net> wrote: > > > How can you play hard with a four banger?????? They can't even maintain > >traffic speed! > > They only people that would say that are one with limited vision and > understanding like you and Mike Romain. the AMC 2.5 does a fine job if > it has propergearing for the load on it and it has good low speed > torque for its size and is a sturdy engine. If you install big tires > and a lift with stock gears it will no do well but if you take the > time to regear it is will do a fine job. IWe have a 2000 cherokee with > a 2.5 and a 5 speed we bought new and it has 81K miles on it now and > it has stock tires and 4.10 gears and it does not lack at all in > traffic. (it has even pulled a 2K trailer a few times around town > without busting a gut) We drove a few 4.0 cheokee with 5 speeds before > we bought the 2.5 one and I was not impressed by the overall > performance on the 4.0 one with its stock factory 3.07 gears that > requires a lot more clutch action to get rolling and uninspiring OD > performance while the 2.5 one with 4.10 gear was more "fun" to drive > in town where it sees most of its life. That little 2.5 will pull OD > strongly from 30 MPH if you want it too. I never regreted getting a > 2.5 in it and would do it over. It also get pretty good MPG for what > it is with consistant very high teens to low 20's in urban/city > traffic using A/C too. On highway it will do about 25 MPG and once got > 27. I knew a guy that had one in a old wrangler with a lift and gears > and it had 150K on it before he killed it when he sank it in a pond. > It did a fine job until then. People that install lift and tires > without gear will complain it is a bad motor because they lack the > capacity to understand that you need proper gearing to match power > curve to load. It is all about the gearing and effective gear ratio , > not about using low range more and giving up 5th gear as people that > do this really do not understand the bigger picture here. > ----------------- > TheSnoMan.com -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Re: Re: Re: 94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 18:53:05 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote: > Well fortunately for stupid people like you, you don't have any >mountains like California: You mean people like you do not know what real mountains are. I spent a lot of time in rockies and I lived at about 7000 ft MSL and that was in a valley too. I have been above 12000 feet in a vehicle a lot and driven up peaks peak 4 times and there is NOTHING that you can tell me about high altitude driving. Also one of the quickest trips up and down the "peak" was in a 4 cyl Toyota. (high tesh 4 valve per cylinder engine seem to far better in thin air because of increased induction effecency) There was actually a time before exhaust emission days that vehicle bound for high elevation sales came with deeper axle ratios. All naturally aspiried engines loss power with altitude and deeper gears can help more than a air filter or dual exhaust. There are those like you and Mike though that think gears do not matter at all. How did the Jeep ever rise to fame in WW2 with its 60 HP engine? Gears that made good use of availble power. ----------------- TheSnoMan.com |
Re: Re: Re: Re: 94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 18:53:05 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote: > Well fortunately for stupid people like you, you don't have any >mountains like California: You mean people like you do not know what real mountains are. I spent a lot of time in rockies and I lived at about 7000 ft MSL and that was in a valley too. I have been above 12000 feet in a vehicle a lot and driven up peaks peak 4 times and there is NOTHING that you can tell me about high altitude driving. Also one of the quickest trips up and down the "peak" was in a 4 cyl Toyota. (high tesh 4 valve per cylinder engine seem to far better in thin air because of increased induction effecency) There was actually a time before exhaust emission days that vehicle bound for high elevation sales came with deeper axle ratios. All naturally aspiried engines loss power with altitude and deeper gears can help more than a air filter or dual exhaust. There are those like you and Mike though that think gears do not matter at all. How did the Jeep ever rise to fame in WW2 with its 60 HP engine? Gears that made good use of availble power. ----------------- TheSnoMan.com |
Re: Re: Re: Re: 94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 18:53:05 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote: > Well fortunately for stupid people like you, you don't have any >mountains like California: You mean people like you do not know what real mountains are. I spent a lot of time in rockies and I lived at about 7000 ft MSL and that was in a valley too. I have been above 12000 feet in a vehicle a lot and driven up peaks peak 4 times and there is NOTHING that you can tell me about high altitude driving. Also one of the quickest trips up and down the "peak" was in a 4 cyl Toyota. (high tesh 4 valve per cylinder engine seem to far better in thin air because of increased induction effecency) There was actually a time before exhaust emission days that vehicle bound for high elevation sales came with deeper axle ratios. All naturally aspiried engines loss power with altitude and deeper gears can help more than a air filter or dual exhaust. There are those like you and Mike though that think gears do not matter at all. How did the Jeep ever rise to fame in WW2 with its 60 HP engine? Gears that made good use of availble power. ----------------- TheSnoMan.com |
Re: Re: Re: Re: 94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 18:53:05 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote: > Well fortunately for stupid people like you, you don't have any >mountains like California: You mean people like you do not know what real mountains are. I spent a lot of time in rockies and I lived at about 7000 ft MSL and that was in a valley too. I have been above 12000 feet in a vehicle a lot and driven up peaks peak 4 times and there is NOTHING that you can tell me about high altitude driving. Also one of the quickest trips up and down the "peak" was in a 4 cyl Toyota. (high tesh 4 valve per cylinder engine seem to far better in thin air because of increased induction effecency) There was actually a time before exhaust emission days that vehicle bound for high elevation sales came with deeper axle ratios. All naturally aspiried engines loss power with altitude and deeper gears can help more than a air filter or dual exhaust. There are those like you and Mike though that think gears do not matter at all. How did the Jeep ever rise to fame in WW2 with its 60 HP engine? Gears that made good use of availble power. ----------------- TheSnoMan.com |
Re: Re: Re: Re: 94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
TOTAL BULLSH*T!
And the WWII Jeep was made to carry, and was lifted by one soldier before the Contract was OK'd. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message news:cg1f83t8128b7u7rrb416tonfus6tlbmql@4ax.com... > > You mean people like you do not know what real mountains are. I spent > a lot of time in rockies and I lived at about 7000 ft MSL and that was > in a valley too. I have been above 12000 feet in a vehicle a lot and > driven up peaks peak 4 times and there is NOTHING that you can tell me > about high altitude driving. Also one of the quickest trips up and > down the "peak" was in a 4 cyl Toyota. (high tesh 4 valve per cylinder > engine seem to far better in thin air because of increased induction > effecency) There was actually a time before exhaust emission days that > vehicle bound for high elevation sales came with deeper axle ratios. > All naturally aspiried engines loss power with altitude and deeper > gears can help more than a air filter or dual exhaust. There are those > like you and Mike though that think gears do not matter at all. How > did the Jeep ever rise to fame in WW2 with its 60 HP engine? Gears > that made good use of availble power. > ----------------- > TheSnoMan.com -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Re: Re: Re: 94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
TOTAL BULLSH*T!
And the WWII Jeep was made to carry, and was lifted by one soldier before the Contract was OK'd. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message news:cg1f83t8128b7u7rrb416tonfus6tlbmql@4ax.com... > > You mean people like you do not know what real mountains are. I spent > a lot of time in rockies and I lived at about 7000 ft MSL and that was > in a valley too. I have been above 12000 feet in a vehicle a lot and > driven up peaks peak 4 times and there is NOTHING that you can tell me > about high altitude driving. Also one of the quickest trips up and > down the "peak" was in a 4 cyl Toyota. (high tesh 4 valve per cylinder > engine seem to far better in thin air because of increased induction > effecency) There was actually a time before exhaust emission days that > vehicle bound for high elevation sales came with deeper axle ratios. > All naturally aspiried engines loss power with altitude and deeper > gears can help more than a air filter or dual exhaust. There are those > like you and Mike though that think gears do not matter at all. How > did the Jeep ever rise to fame in WW2 with its 60 HP engine? Gears > that made good use of availble power. > ----------------- > TheSnoMan.com -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Re: Re: Re: 94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
TOTAL BULLSH*T!
And the WWII Jeep was made to carry, and was lifted by one soldier before the Contract was OK'd. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message news:cg1f83t8128b7u7rrb416tonfus6tlbmql@4ax.com... > > You mean people like you do not know what real mountains are. I spent > a lot of time in rockies and I lived at about 7000 ft MSL and that was > in a valley too. I have been above 12000 feet in a vehicle a lot and > driven up peaks peak 4 times and there is NOTHING that you can tell me > about high altitude driving. Also one of the quickest trips up and > down the "peak" was in a 4 cyl Toyota. (high tesh 4 valve per cylinder > engine seem to far better in thin air because of increased induction > effecency) There was actually a time before exhaust emission days that > vehicle bound for high elevation sales came with deeper axle ratios. > All naturally aspiried engines loss power with altitude and deeper > gears can help more than a air filter or dual exhaust. There are those > like you and Mike though that think gears do not matter at all. How > did the Jeep ever rise to fame in WW2 with its 60 HP engine? Gears > that made good use of availble power. > ----------------- > TheSnoMan.com -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Re: Re: Re: 94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
TOTAL BULLSH*T!
And the WWII Jeep was made to carry, and was lifted by one soldier before the Contract was OK'd. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message news:cg1f83t8128b7u7rrb416tonfus6tlbmql@4ax.com... > > You mean people like you do not know what real mountains are. I spent > a lot of time in rockies and I lived at about 7000 ft MSL and that was > in a valley too. I have been above 12000 feet in a vehicle a lot and > driven up peaks peak 4 times and there is NOTHING that you can tell me > about high altitude driving. Also one of the quickest trips up and > down the "peak" was in a 4 cyl Toyota. (high tesh 4 valve per cylinder > engine seem to far better in thin air because of increased induction > effecency) There was actually a time before exhaust emission days that > vehicle bound for high elevation sales came with deeper axle ratios. > All naturally aspiried engines loss power with altitude and deeper > gears can help more than a air filter or dual exhaust. There are those > like you and Mike though that think gears do not matter at all. How > did the Jeep ever rise to fame in WW2 with its 60 HP engine? Gears > that made good use of availble power. > ----------------- > TheSnoMan.com -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: 94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
On Sun, 1 Jul 2007 16:00:49 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> Amazingly Replied without Prejudice below: TOTAL BULLSH*T! That's the way people feel about you! :> TOTAL BULLSH*T! :> And the WWII Jeep was made to carry, and was lifted by one soldier :>before the Contract was OK'd. :>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ :> :> :>"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message :>news:cg1f83t8128b7u7rrb416tonfus6tlbmql@4ax.com. .. :>> :>> You mean people like you do not know what real mountains are. I spent :>> a lot of time in rockies and I lived at about 7000 ft MSL and that was :>> in a valley too. I have been above 12000 feet in a vehicle a lot and :>> driven up peaks peak 4 times and there is NOTHING that you can tell me :>> about high altitude driving. Also one of the quickest trips up and :>> down the "peak" was in a 4 cyl Toyota. (high tesh 4 valve per cylinder :>> engine seem to far better in thin air because of increased induction :>> effecency) There was actually a time before exhaust emission days that :>> vehicle bound for high elevation sales came with deeper axle ratios. :>> All naturally aspiried engines loss power with altitude and deeper :>> gears can help more than a air filter or dual exhaust. There are those :>> like you and Mike though that think gears do not matter at all. How :>> did the Jeep ever rise to fame in WW2 with its 60 HP engine? Gears :>> that made good use of availble power. :>> ----------------- :>> TheSnoMan.com L.W.(Bill) ------ III replied in message 450E4BED.E758656A@cox.net: Like, you know you've ever sucked a sweater ---- than mine? God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- |
Re: 94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
On Sun, 1 Jul 2007 16:00:49 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> Amazingly Replied without Prejudice below: TOTAL BULLSH*T! That's the way people feel about you! :> TOTAL BULLSH*T! :> And the WWII Jeep was made to carry, and was lifted by one soldier :>before the Contract was OK'd. :>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ :> :> :>"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message :>news:cg1f83t8128b7u7rrb416tonfus6tlbmql@4ax.com. .. :>> :>> You mean people like you do not know what real mountains are. I spent :>> a lot of time in rockies and I lived at about 7000 ft MSL and that was :>> in a valley too. I have been above 12000 feet in a vehicle a lot and :>> driven up peaks peak 4 times and there is NOTHING that you can tell me :>> about high altitude driving. Also one of the quickest trips up and :>> down the "peak" was in a 4 cyl Toyota. (high tesh 4 valve per cylinder :>> engine seem to far better in thin air because of increased induction :>> effecency) There was actually a time before exhaust emission days that :>> vehicle bound for high elevation sales came with deeper axle ratios. :>> All naturally aspiried engines loss power with altitude and deeper :>> gears can help more than a air filter or dual exhaust. There are those :>> like you and Mike though that think gears do not matter at all. How :>> did the Jeep ever rise to fame in WW2 with its 60 HP engine? Gears :>> that made good use of availble power. :>> ----------------- :>> TheSnoMan.com L.W.(Bill) ------ III replied in message 450E4BED.E758656A@cox.net: Like, you know you've ever sucked a sweater ---- than mine? God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- |
Re: 94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
On Sun, 1 Jul 2007 16:00:49 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> Amazingly Replied without Prejudice below: TOTAL BULLSH*T! That's the way people feel about you! :> TOTAL BULLSH*T! :> And the WWII Jeep was made to carry, and was lifted by one soldier :>before the Contract was OK'd. :>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ :> :> :>"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message :>news:cg1f83t8128b7u7rrb416tonfus6tlbmql@4ax.com. .. :>> :>> You mean people like you do not know what real mountains are. I spent :>> a lot of time in rockies and I lived at about 7000 ft MSL and that was :>> in a valley too. I have been above 12000 feet in a vehicle a lot and :>> driven up peaks peak 4 times and there is NOTHING that you can tell me :>> about high altitude driving. Also one of the quickest trips up and :>> down the "peak" was in a 4 cyl Toyota. (high tesh 4 valve per cylinder :>> engine seem to far better in thin air because of increased induction :>> effecency) There was actually a time before exhaust emission days that :>> vehicle bound for high elevation sales came with deeper axle ratios. :>> All naturally aspiried engines loss power with altitude and deeper :>> gears can help more than a air filter or dual exhaust. There are those :>> like you and Mike though that think gears do not matter at all. How :>> did the Jeep ever rise to fame in WW2 with its 60 HP engine? Gears :>> that made good use of availble power. :>> ----------------- :>> TheSnoMan.com L.W.(Bill) ------ III replied in message 450E4BED.E758656A@cox.net: Like, you know you've ever sucked a sweater ---- than mine? God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- |
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