93ZJ drive shaft question / HELP.
 

The wifey's ZJ has been at the shop for almost a week. It has had a
fair bit of work done to it (brakes, rear axle seals & Bearings, front
cv boots and some other stuff).

Anyways the last job it needs done it to have the front drive shaft
replaced (from front diff to x-fer case). My garage is have a hell
of a time finding one. I was wondering if there would be any problems
driving the J**P with the front shaft removed??? The J**P has
Quadra-trac.

Thanks
Snow....

Re: 93ZJ drive shaft question / HELP.
 

Snow wrote:
> The wifey's ZJ has been at the shop for almost a week. It has had a
> fair bit of work done to it (brakes, rear axle seals & Bearings, front
> cv boots and some other stuff).
>
> Anyways the last job it needs done it to have the front drive shaft
> replaced (from front diff to x-fer case). My garage is have a hell
> of a time finding one. I was wondering if there would be any problems
> driving the J**P with the front shaft removed??? The J**P has
> Quadra-trac.

From what I understand that is one of the problems with Quadra-trac
in the 93, no lock. So without a front or rear shaft the limited slip
part of the case will just generate a ton of heat and the open output
will still spin. And that give you a real good chance of burning out
the transfer case. It has to be flatbedded. :/

chryslerpartsdirect.com Shows it under Front drive axle, Drive axles,
Propeller Shaft, Drive shaft for ..wow.. $464.10 for the 4.0 Auto.
The other bits are there too, depending on what broke.


--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!

Re: 93ZJ drive shaft question / HELP.
 

Snow wrote:
> The wifey's ZJ has been at the shop for almost a week. It has had a
> fair bit of work done to it (brakes, rear axle seals & Bearings, front
> cv boots and some other stuff).
>
> Anyways the last job it needs done it to have the front drive shaft
> replaced (from front diff to x-fer case). My garage is have a hell
> of a time finding one. I was wondering if there would be any problems
> driving the J**P with the front shaft removed??? The J**P has
> Quadra-trac.

From what I understand that is one of the problems with Quadra-trac
in the 93, no lock. So without a front or rear shaft the limited slip
part of the case will just generate a ton of heat and the open output
will still spin. And that give you a real good chance of burning out
the transfer case. It has to be flatbedded. :/

chryslerpartsdirect.com Shows it under Front drive axle, Drive axles,
Propeller Shaft, Drive shaft for ..wow.. $464.10 for the 4.0 Auto.
The other bits are there too, depending on what broke.


--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!

Re: 93ZJ drive shaft question / HELP.
 

Snow wrote:
> The wifey's ZJ has been at the shop for almost a week. It has had a
> fair bit of work done to it (brakes, rear axle seals & Bearings, front
> cv boots and some other stuff).
>
> Anyways the last job it needs done it to have the front drive shaft
> replaced (from front diff to x-fer case). My garage is have a hell
> of a time finding one. I was wondering if there would be any problems
> driving the J**P with the front shaft removed??? The J**P has
> Quadra-trac.

From what I understand that is one of the problems with Quadra-trac
in the 93, no lock. So without a front or rear shaft the limited slip
part of the case will just generate a ton of heat and the open output
will still spin. And that give you a real good chance of burning out
the transfer case. It has to be flatbedded. :/

chryslerpartsdirect.com Shows it under Front drive axle, Drive axles,
Propeller Shaft, Drive shaft for ..wow.. $464.10 for the 4.0 Auto.
The other bits are there too, depending on what broke.


--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!

Re: 93ZJ drive shaft question / HELP.
 

Snow wrote:
> The wifey's ZJ has been at the shop for almost a week. It has had a
> fair bit of work done to it (brakes, rear axle seals & Bearings, front
> cv boots and some other stuff).
>
> Anyways the last job it needs done it to have the front drive shaft
> replaced (from front diff to x-fer case). My garage is have a hell
> of a time finding one. I was wondering if there would be any problems
> driving the J**P with the front shaft removed??? The J**P has
> Quadra-trac.

From what I understand that is one of the problems with Quadra-trac
in the 93, no lock. So without a front or rear shaft the limited slip
part of the case will just generate a ton of heat and the open output
will still spin. And that give you a real good chance of burning out
the transfer case. It has to be flatbedded. :/

chryslerpartsdirect.com Shows it under Front drive axle, Drive axles,
Propeller Shaft, Drive shaft for ..wow.. $464.10 for the 4.0 Auto.
The other bits are there too, depending on what broke.


--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!

Re: 93ZJ drive shaft question / HELP.
 

On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 21:47:04 -0700, Snow <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>The wifey's ZJ has been at the shop for almost a week. It has had a
>fair bit of work done to it (brakes, rear axle seals & Bearings, front
>cv boots and some other stuff).
>
>Anyways the last job it needs done it to have the front drive shaft
>replaced (from front diff to x-fer case). My garage is have a hell
>of a time finding one. I was wondering if there would be any problems
>driving the J**P with the front shaft removed??? The J**P has
>Quadra-trac.
>
>Thanks
>Snow....


Well they call it Qtrac but the real Qtrac was made from 73 to 79. I
know I still have one in a 79 that I have owned for over 22 years now.
If it is anything on front drive shafts like my old J20 is it tends to
wear out Ujopints and CV in it over time as mine is always spining and
running at a bit of a angle even stock. There is no need to replace it
because unless the splines on the spline yoke are stripped out it is
fully rebuildable. Any competent driveshaft shop can rebuild it for
you and cheaper than a new one too and while you are at it have it
balanced as well. The CV in that drive shaft and ujoints need regular
lubing for long life. When you get it rebuilt get Ujoints in the CV
cage with grease fittings on caps so you can grease them with a grease
needle on a grease gun. There is also a grease fitting in the
centering ball in the CV cage that needs to be greased with a needle
too (many neglete this) I picked up a second drive shaft in a bone
yard long ago and I swap them out every year or two and service them
as needed while out so it is ready for next swap. (I cannot grease
centerball fitting with shaft installed on my truck and one reason I
swap them) I have come to live with mine being hard on front drive
shafts as it seems to be the nature of the beast with full time 4x4.
In my case I can swap out drive shaft in about 20 minutes or so.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

Re: 93ZJ drive shaft question / HELP.
 

On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 21:47:04 -0700, Snow <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>The wifey's ZJ has been at the shop for almost a week. It has had a
>fair bit of work done to it (brakes, rear axle seals & Bearings, front
>cv boots and some other stuff).
>
>Anyways the last job it needs done it to have the front drive shaft
>replaced (from front diff to x-fer case). My garage is have a hell
>of a time finding one. I was wondering if there would be any problems
>driving the J**P with the front shaft removed??? The J**P has
>Quadra-trac.
>
>Thanks
>Snow....


Well they call it Qtrac but the real Qtrac was made from 73 to 79. I
know I still have one in a 79 that I have owned for over 22 years now.
If it is anything on front drive shafts like my old J20 is it tends to
wear out Ujopints and CV in it over time as mine is always spining and
running at a bit of a angle even stock. There is no need to replace it
because unless the splines on the spline yoke are stripped out it is
fully rebuildable. Any competent driveshaft shop can rebuild it for
you and cheaper than a new one too and while you are at it have it
balanced as well. The CV in that drive shaft and ujoints need regular
lubing for long life. When you get it rebuilt get Ujoints in the CV
cage with grease fittings on caps so you can grease them with a grease
needle on a grease gun. There is also a grease fitting in the
centering ball in the CV cage that needs to be greased with a needle
too (many neglete this) I picked up a second drive shaft in a bone
yard long ago and I swap them out every year or two and service them
as needed while out so it is ready for next swap. (I cannot grease
centerball fitting with shaft installed on my truck and one reason I
swap them) I have come to live with mine being hard on front drive
shafts as it seems to be the nature of the beast with full time 4x4.
In my case I can swap out drive shaft in about 20 minutes or so.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

Re: 93ZJ drive shaft question / HELP.
 

On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 21:47:04 -0700, Snow <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>The wifey's ZJ has been at the shop for almost a week. It has had a
>fair bit of work done to it (brakes, rear axle seals & Bearings, front
>cv boots and some other stuff).
>
>Anyways the last job it needs done it to have the front drive shaft
>replaced (from front diff to x-fer case). My garage is have a hell
>of a time finding one. I was wondering if there would be any problems
>driving the J**P with the front shaft removed??? The J**P has
>Quadra-trac.
>
>Thanks
>Snow....


Well they call it Qtrac but the real Qtrac was made from 73 to 79. I
know I still have one in a 79 that I have owned for over 22 years now.
If it is anything on front drive shafts like my old J20 is it tends to
wear out Ujopints and CV in it over time as mine is always spining and
running at a bit of a angle even stock. There is no need to replace it
because unless the splines on the spline yoke are stripped out it is
fully rebuildable. Any competent driveshaft shop can rebuild it for
you and cheaper than a new one too and while you are at it have it
balanced as well. The CV in that drive shaft and ujoints need regular
lubing for long life. When you get it rebuilt get Ujoints in the CV
cage with grease fittings on caps so you can grease them with a grease
needle on a grease gun. There is also a grease fitting in the
centering ball in the CV cage that needs to be greased with a needle
too (many neglete this) I picked up a second drive shaft in a bone
yard long ago and I swap them out every year or two and service them
as needed while out so it is ready for next swap. (I cannot grease
centerball fitting with shaft installed on my truck and one reason I
swap them) I have come to live with mine being hard on front drive
shafts as it seems to be the nature of the beast with full time 4x4.
In my case I can swap out drive shaft in about 20 minutes or so.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

Re: 93ZJ drive shaft question / HELP.
 

On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 21:47:04 -0700, Snow <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>The wifey's ZJ has been at the shop for almost a week. It has had a
>fair bit of work done to it (brakes, rear axle seals & Bearings, front
>cv boots and some other stuff).
>
>Anyways the last job it needs done it to have the front drive shaft
>replaced (from front diff to x-fer case). My garage is have a hell
>of a time finding one. I was wondering if there would be any problems
>driving the J**P with the front shaft removed??? The J**P has
>Quadra-trac.
>
>Thanks
>Snow....


Well they call it Qtrac but the real Qtrac was made from 73 to 79. I
know I still have one in a 79 that I have owned for over 22 years now.
If it is anything on front drive shafts like my old J20 is it tends to
wear out Ujopints and CV in it over time as mine is always spining and
running at a bit of a angle even stock. There is no need to replace it
because unless the splines on the spline yoke are stripped out it is
fully rebuildable. Any competent driveshaft shop can rebuild it for
you and cheaper than a new one too and while you are at it have it
balanced as well. The CV in that drive shaft and ujoints need regular
lubing for long life. When you get it rebuilt get Ujoints in the CV
cage with grease fittings on caps so you can grease them with a grease
needle on a grease gun. There is also a grease fitting in the
centering ball in the CV cage that needs to be greased with a needle
too (many neglete this) I picked up a second drive shaft in a bone
yard long ago and I swap them out every year or two and service them
as needed while out so it is ready for next swap. (I cannot grease
centerball fitting with shaft installed on my truck and one reason I
swap them) I have come to live with mine being hard on front drive
shafts as it seems to be the nature of the beast with full time 4x4.
In my case I can swap out drive shaft in about 20 minutes or so.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com