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Curtis 08-07-2006 07:16 PM

93 zj seatbelts...
 
hey all...wondering about the seat belt retractors in my 93 ZJ. For
the life of me I can't get the seatbelt to stop - like you'd want in a
crash - even if I pull out completely I can't get the retractor to
engage...

I think they are shot but wondering if the retracting mechanism engages
differently - I don't know...?

So if I need new retractors is it a hard fix??

thanks much,
c


DougW 08-07-2006 07:39 PM

Re: 93 zj seatbelts...
 
Curtis wrote:
> hey all...wondering about the seat belt retractors in my 93 ZJ. For
> the life of me I can't get the seatbelt to stop - like you'd want in
> a crash - even if I pull out completely I can't get the retractor to
> engage...
>
> I think they are shot but wondering if the retracting mechanism
> engages differently - I don't know...?
>
> So if I need new retractors is it a hard fix??


There isn't a pull/catch feature on the mechanisim
like there is on some that are made for child seats.


If your trying to test the seatbelts to see if they will hold in
a crash, you have to do that on a really bumpy or fairly steep
downhill trail while applying a bit of body weight to the belts.
The catch mechanisim relies on deceleration like you get in an
emergency stop. It's not much, dropping off a curb can sometimes
make them catch.

Replacing the unit isn't hard, it just takes a big ass star driver
to remove the bolts. And a screwdriver to remove all the cladding
that surrounds the workings.

--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!



DougW 08-07-2006 07:39 PM

Re: 93 zj seatbelts...
 
Curtis wrote:
> hey all...wondering about the seat belt retractors in my 93 ZJ. For
> the life of me I can't get the seatbelt to stop - like you'd want in
> a crash - even if I pull out completely I can't get the retractor to
> engage...
>
> I think they are shot but wondering if the retracting mechanism
> engages differently - I don't know...?
>
> So if I need new retractors is it a hard fix??


There isn't a pull/catch feature on the mechanisim
like there is on some that are made for child seats.


If your trying to test the seatbelts to see if they will hold in
a crash, you have to do that on a really bumpy or fairly steep
downhill trail while applying a bit of body weight to the belts.
The catch mechanisim relies on deceleration like you get in an
emergency stop. It's not much, dropping off a curb can sometimes
make them catch.

Replacing the unit isn't hard, it just takes a big ass star driver
to remove the bolts. And a screwdriver to remove all the cladding
that surrounds the workings.

--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!



DougW 08-07-2006 07:39 PM

Re: 93 zj seatbelts...
 
Curtis wrote:
> hey all...wondering about the seat belt retractors in my 93 ZJ. For
> the life of me I can't get the seatbelt to stop - like you'd want in
> a crash - even if I pull out completely I can't get the retractor to
> engage...
>
> I think they are shot but wondering if the retracting mechanism
> engages differently - I don't know...?
>
> So if I need new retractors is it a hard fix??


There isn't a pull/catch feature on the mechanisim
like there is on some that are made for child seats.


If your trying to test the seatbelts to see if they will hold in
a crash, you have to do that on a really bumpy or fairly steep
downhill trail while applying a bit of body weight to the belts.
The catch mechanisim relies on deceleration like you get in an
emergency stop. It's not much, dropping off a curb can sometimes
make them catch.

Replacing the unit isn't hard, it just takes a big ass star driver
to remove the bolts. And a screwdriver to remove all the cladding
that surrounds the workings.

--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!



DougW 08-07-2006 07:39 PM

Re: 93 zj seatbelts...
 
Curtis wrote:
> hey all...wondering about the seat belt retractors in my 93 ZJ. For
> the life of me I can't get the seatbelt to stop - like you'd want in
> a crash - even if I pull out completely I can't get the retractor to
> engage...
>
> I think they are shot but wondering if the retracting mechanism
> engages differently - I don't know...?
>
> So if I need new retractors is it a hard fix??


There isn't a pull/catch feature on the mechanisim
like there is on some that are made for child seats.


If your trying to test the seatbelts to see if they will hold in
a crash, you have to do that on a really bumpy or fairly steep
downhill trail while applying a bit of body weight to the belts.
The catch mechanisim relies on deceleration like you get in an
emergency stop. It's not much, dropping off a curb can sometimes
make them catch.

Replacing the unit isn't hard, it just takes a big ass star driver
to remove the bolts. And a screwdriver to remove all the cladding
that surrounds the workings.

--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!



Curtis 08-08-2006 12:09 PM

Re: 93 zj seatbelts...
 
OK I can live without the pull catch for the baby seat as I can use the
middle lap belt - but yes I was trying to see if they would hold in a
crash..

I'll go find some curbs!! Thanks again Doug for the info...

update - I got spooked on swapping out my drier receiver - I could
never get a straight answer if my system was discharged or not - so I
had the shop do it - and now the rig is a friken cooler - wow...

still gotta get those front sway bar bushings - gotta figure out what
size my sway bar is with the V8.

new baby at home so time is limited....:)

DougW wrote:
> Curtis wrote:
> > hey all...wondering about the seat belt retractors in my 93 ZJ. For
> > the life of me I can't get the seatbelt to stop - like you'd want in
> > a crash - even if I pull out completely I can't get the retractor to
> > engage...
> >
> > I think they are shot but wondering if the retracting mechanism
> > engages differently - I don't know...?
> >
> > So if I need new retractors is it a hard fix??

>
> There isn't a pull/catch feature on the mechanisim
> like there is on some that are made for child seats.
>
>
> If your trying to test the seatbelts to see if they will hold in
> a crash, you have to do that on a really bumpy or fairly steep
> downhill trail while applying a bit of body weight to the belts.
> The catch mechanisim relies on deceleration like you get in an
> emergency stop. It's not much, dropping off a curb can sometimes
> make them catch.
>
> Replacing the unit isn't hard, it just takes a big ass star driver
> to remove the bolts. And a screwdriver to remove all the cladding
> that surrounds the workings.
>
> --
> -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com
> HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
> Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
> Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!



Curtis 08-08-2006 12:09 PM

Re: 93 zj seatbelts...
 
OK I can live without the pull catch for the baby seat as I can use the
middle lap belt - but yes I was trying to see if they would hold in a
crash..

I'll go find some curbs!! Thanks again Doug for the info...

update - I got spooked on swapping out my drier receiver - I could
never get a straight answer if my system was discharged or not - so I
had the shop do it - and now the rig is a friken cooler - wow...

still gotta get those front sway bar bushings - gotta figure out what
size my sway bar is with the V8.

new baby at home so time is limited....:)

DougW wrote:
> Curtis wrote:
> > hey all...wondering about the seat belt retractors in my 93 ZJ. For
> > the life of me I can't get the seatbelt to stop - like you'd want in
> > a crash - even if I pull out completely I can't get the retractor to
> > engage...
> >
> > I think they are shot but wondering if the retracting mechanism
> > engages differently - I don't know...?
> >
> > So if I need new retractors is it a hard fix??

>
> There isn't a pull/catch feature on the mechanisim
> like there is on some that are made for child seats.
>
>
> If your trying to test the seatbelts to see if they will hold in
> a crash, you have to do that on a really bumpy or fairly steep
> downhill trail while applying a bit of body weight to the belts.
> The catch mechanisim relies on deceleration like you get in an
> emergency stop. It's not much, dropping off a curb can sometimes
> make them catch.
>
> Replacing the unit isn't hard, it just takes a big ass star driver
> to remove the bolts. And a screwdriver to remove all the cladding
> that surrounds the workings.
>
> --
> -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com
> HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
> Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
> Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!



Curtis 08-08-2006 12:09 PM

Re: 93 zj seatbelts...
 
OK I can live without the pull catch for the baby seat as I can use the
middle lap belt - but yes I was trying to see if they would hold in a
crash..

I'll go find some curbs!! Thanks again Doug for the info...

update - I got spooked on swapping out my drier receiver - I could
never get a straight answer if my system was discharged or not - so I
had the shop do it - and now the rig is a friken cooler - wow...

still gotta get those front sway bar bushings - gotta figure out what
size my sway bar is with the V8.

new baby at home so time is limited....:)

DougW wrote:
> Curtis wrote:
> > hey all...wondering about the seat belt retractors in my 93 ZJ. For
> > the life of me I can't get the seatbelt to stop - like you'd want in
> > a crash - even if I pull out completely I can't get the retractor to
> > engage...
> >
> > I think they are shot but wondering if the retracting mechanism
> > engages differently - I don't know...?
> >
> > So if I need new retractors is it a hard fix??

>
> There isn't a pull/catch feature on the mechanisim
> like there is on some that are made for child seats.
>
>
> If your trying to test the seatbelts to see if they will hold in
> a crash, you have to do that on a really bumpy or fairly steep
> downhill trail while applying a bit of body weight to the belts.
> The catch mechanisim relies on deceleration like you get in an
> emergency stop. It's not much, dropping off a curb can sometimes
> make them catch.
>
> Replacing the unit isn't hard, it just takes a big ass star driver
> to remove the bolts. And a screwdriver to remove all the cladding
> that surrounds the workings.
>
> --
> -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com
> HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
> Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
> Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!



Curtis 08-08-2006 12:09 PM

Re: 93 zj seatbelts...
 
OK I can live without the pull catch for the baby seat as I can use the
middle lap belt - but yes I was trying to see if they would hold in a
crash..

I'll go find some curbs!! Thanks again Doug for the info...

update - I got spooked on swapping out my drier receiver - I could
never get a straight answer if my system was discharged or not - so I
had the shop do it - and now the rig is a friken cooler - wow...

still gotta get those front sway bar bushings - gotta figure out what
size my sway bar is with the V8.

new baby at home so time is limited....:)

DougW wrote:
> Curtis wrote:
> > hey all...wondering about the seat belt retractors in my 93 ZJ. For
> > the life of me I can't get the seatbelt to stop - like you'd want in
> > a crash - even if I pull out completely I can't get the retractor to
> > engage...
> >
> > I think they are shot but wondering if the retracting mechanism
> > engages differently - I don't know...?
> >
> > So if I need new retractors is it a hard fix??

>
> There isn't a pull/catch feature on the mechanisim
> like there is on some that are made for child seats.
>
>
> If your trying to test the seatbelts to see if they will hold in
> a crash, you have to do that on a really bumpy or fairly steep
> downhill trail while applying a bit of body weight to the belts.
> The catch mechanisim relies on deceleration like you get in an
> emergency stop. It's not much, dropping off a curb can sometimes
> make them catch.
>
> Replacing the unit isn't hard, it just takes a big ass star driver
> to remove the bolts. And a screwdriver to remove all the cladding
> that surrounds the workings.
>
> --
> -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com
> HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
> Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
> Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!



billy ray 08-08-2006 12:17 PM

Re: 93 zj seatbelts...
 
If your has the inertia reels they will lock when your perform a firm
(quick) stop.

When you are out on a *clear* roadway brake *sharply* from 35 mph or so.
When you feel the deceleration try pulling the seatbelt out. It should grab
and lock and not release until after you come to a complete stop.


"Curtis" <cchandler63@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1155053349.869257.88940@i42g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> OK I can live without the pull catch for the baby seat as I can use the
> middle lap belt - but yes I was trying to see if they would hold in a
> crash..
>
> I'll go find some curbs!! Thanks again Doug for the info...
>
> update - I got spooked on swapping out my drier receiver - I could
> never get a straight answer if my system was discharged or not - so I
> had the shop do it - and now the rig is a friken cooler - wow...
>
> still gotta get those front sway bar bushings - gotta figure out what
> size my sway bar is with the V8.
>
> new baby at home so time is limited....:)
>
> DougW wrote:
>> Curtis wrote:
>> > hey all...wondering about the seat belt retractors in my 93 ZJ. For
>> > the life of me I can't get the seatbelt to stop - like you'd want in
>> > a crash - even if I pull out completely I can't get the retractor to
>> > engage...
>> >
>> > I think they are shot but wondering if the retracting mechanism
>> > engages differently - I don't know...?
>> >
>> > So if I need new retractors is it a hard fix??

>>
>> There isn't a pull/catch feature on the mechanisim
>> like there is on some that are made for child seats.
>>
>>
>> If your trying to test the seatbelts to see if they will hold in
>> a crash, you have to do that on a really bumpy or fairly steep
>> downhill trail while applying a bit of body weight to the belts.
>> The catch mechanisim relies on deceleration like you get in an
>> emergency stop. It's not much, dropping off a curb can sometimes
>> make them catch.
>>
>> Replacing the unit isn't hard, it just takes a big ass star driver
>> to remove the bolts. And a screwdriver to remove all the cladding
>> that surrounds the workings.
>>
>> --
>> -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com
>> HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
>> Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
>> Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!

>





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