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93 YJ Axle Question
after hearing descriptions of terror and fright regarding the dana 30
and 35 axles, i'm wondering what would warrant me replacing them, and with what, and at what cost and difficulty? i am not a full time off-roader, but i do put my vehicle to the test, at least i think i do (probably being stupid than anything else). currently running: 93 yj 4.0 3spd 31x10.5 BFG MT's 3" shackle lift (yeah, i know, you don't have to say anything) current plans: a real 3" or 4" suspension lift (something from black diamond or similar) drop pitman arm adjustable track bars locking diff's (aussie locker or traklox) cable operated front axle engagement winch maybe upgrade to 33"s?? is this a pipe dream or what? -- Ben Jerew ASE Master Technician New Country Lexus of Latham, NY Amateur Off-Roader |
Re: 93 YJ Axle Question
The Dana 30 is actually not a bad axle until you get into serious hard-core
stuff where you're running 37" or bigger. Built with decent hardened aftermarket axle shafts like from Superior Axle or Warn, a Dana 30 does well with 35" tires and serious wheeling. So that axle can likely stay in place, though replacing that two-piece axle on the passenger-side with a one-piece axle that also gets rid of the problematic disconnect system is a good idea. For most wheeling, a Dana 35c is "adequate".... but if you wheel seriously and test yourself and the Jeep with bigger than stock tires and lockers, the Dana 35c is clearly not strong enough, mainly the axle shafts are too small and they break. A Dana 44 upgrade is the next bigger axle and works well for tires up to around the 37" size, though really tough wheeling requires its axle shafts be upgraded with hardened axles from Superior Axle. Dana 44 axles are good because they're common and inexpensive, and can be a relatively easy upgrade. Other axles like a Ford 8.8 or 9" are good too but have a bit more to do first before they can be installed.... both are stronger than the Dana 44 but the Dana 44 is more than strong enough for 99% of offroading needs. Jerry -- -- Jerry Bransford To email, remove 'me' from my email address KC6TAY, PP-ASEL See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ "MudPuppy1976 <"moc.rr.pacyn"@67lamina" <--BACKWARDS> wrote in message news:MMHjb.34822$Hs.6465@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > after hearing descriptions of terror and fright regarding the dana 30 > and 35 axles, i'm wondering what would warrant me replacing them, and > with what, and at what cost and difficulty? > > i am not a full time off-roader, but i do put my vehicle to the test, at > least i think i do (probably being stupid than anything else). currently > running: > 93 yj 4.0 3spd > 31x10.5 BFG MT's > 3" shackle lift (yeah, i know, you don't have to say anything) > > > current plans: > a real 3" or 4" suspension lift (something from black diamond or similar) > drop pitman arm > adjustable track bars > locking diff's (aussie locker or traklox) > cable operated front axle engagement > winch > maybe upgrade to 33"s?? > > is this a pipe dream or what? > -- > Ben Jerew > ASE Master Technician > New Country Lexus of Latham, NY > Amateur Off-Roader > |
Re: 93 YJ Axle Question
The Dana 30 is actually not a bad axle until you get into serious hard-core
stuff where you're running 37" or bigger. Built with decent hardened aftermarket axle shafts like from Superior Axle or Warn, a Dana 30 does well with 35" tires and serious wheeling. So that axle can likely stay in place, though replacing that two-piece axle on the passenger-side with a one-piece axle that also gets rid of the problematic disconnect system is a good idea. For most wheeling, a Dana 35c is "adequate".... but if you wheel seriously and test yourself and the Jeep with bigger than stock tires and lockers, the Dana 35c is clearly not strong enough, mainly the axle shafts are too small and they break. A Dana 44 upgrade is the next bigger axle and works well for tires up to around the 37" size, though really tough wheeling requires its axle shafts be upgraded with hardened axles from Superior Axle. Dana 44 axles are good because they're common and inexpensive, and can be a relatively easy upgrade. Other axles like a Ford 8.8 or 9" are good too but have a bit more to do first before they can be installed.... both are stronger than the Dana 44 but the Dana 44 is more than strong enough for 99% of offroading needs. Jerry -- -- Jerry Bransford To email, remove 'me' from my email address KC6TAY, PP-ASEL See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ "MudPuppy1976 <"moc.rr.pacyn"@67lamina" <--BACKWARDS> wrote in message news:MMHjb.34822$Hs.6465@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > after hearing descriptions of terror and fright regarding the dana 30 > and 35 axles, i'm wondering what would warrant me replacing them, and > with what, and at what cost and difficulty? > > i am not a full time off-roader, but i do put my vehicle to the test, at > least i think i do (probably being stupid than anything else). currently > running: > 93 yj 4.0 3spd > 31x10.5 BFG MT's > 3" shackle lift (yeah, i know, you don't have to say anything) > > > current plans: > a real 3" or 4" suspension lift (something from black diamond or similar) > drop pitman arm > adjustable track bars > locking diff's (aussie locker or traklox) > cable operated front axle engagement > winch > maybe upgrade to 33"s?? > > is this a pipe dream or what? > -- > Ben Jerew > ASE Master Technician > New Country Lexus of Latham, NY > Amateur Off-Roader > |
Re: 93 YJ Axle Question
The Dana 30 is actually not a bad axle until you get into serious hard-core
stuff where you're running 37" or bigger. Built with decent hardened aftermarket axle shafts like from Superior Axle or Warn, a Dana 30 does well with 35" tires and serious wheeling. So that axle can likely stay in place, though replacing that two-piece axle on the passenger-side with a one-piece axle that also gets rid of the problematic disconnect system is a good idea. For most wheeling, a Dana 35c is "adequate".... but if you wheel seriously and test yourself and the Jeep with bigger than stock tires and lockers, the Dana 35c is clearly not strong enough, mainly the axle shafts are too small and they break. A Dana 44 upgrade is the next bigger axle and works well for tires up to around the 37" size, though really tough wheeling requires its axle shafts be upgraded with hardened axles from Superior Axle. Dana 44 axles are good because they're common and inexpensive, and can be a relatively easy upgrade. Other axles like a Ford 8.8 or 9" are good too but have a bit more to do first before they can be installed.... both are stronger than the Dana 44 but the Dana 44 is more than strong enough for 99% of offroading needs. Jerry -- -- Jerry Bransford To email, remove 'me' from my email address KC6TAY, PP-ASEL See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ "MudPuppy1976 <"moc.rr.pacyn"@67lamina" <--BACKWARDS> wrote in message news:MMHjb.34822$Hs.6465@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > after hearing descriptions of terror and fright regarding the dana 30 > and 35 axles, i'm wondering what would warrant me replacing them, and > with what, and at what cost and difficulty? > > i am not a full time off-roader, but i do put my vehicle to the test, at > least i think i do (probably being stupid than anything else). currently > running: > 93 yj 4.0 3spd > 31x10.5 BFG MT's > 3" shackle lift (yeah, i know, you don't have to say anything) > > > current plans: > a real 3" or 4" suspension lift (something from black diamond or similar) > drop pitman arm > adjustable track bars > locking diff's (aussie locker or traklox) > cable operated front axle engagement > winch > maybe upgrade to 33"s?? > > is this a pipe dream or what? > -- > Ben Jerew > ASE Master Technician > New Country Lexus of Latham, NY > Amateur Off-Roader > |
Re: 93 YJ Axle Question
> Other axles like a Ford 8.8 or 9" are good too but have a
> bit more to do first before they can be installed.... both are > stronger than the Dana 44 but the Dana 44 is more than > strong enough for 99% of offroading needs. Another option for the rear is a reverse cut Dana 60. The advantage, other than the strength, is that the pinion in on top of the axle, not the bottom. This helps with the driveshaft angles in lifted applications. Mike |
Re: 93 YJ Axle Question
> Other axles like a Ford 8.8 or 9" are good too but have a
> bit more to do first before they can be installed.... both are > stronger than the Dana 44 but the Dana 44 is more than > strong enough for 99% of offroading needs. Another option for the rear is a reverse cut Dana 60. The advantage, other than the strength, is that the pinion in on top of the axle, not the bottom. This helps with the driveshaft angles in lifted applications. Mike |
Re: 93 YJ Axle Question
> Other axles like a Ford 8.8 or 9" are good too but have a
> bit more to do first before they can be installed.... both are > stronger than the Dana 44 but the Dana 44 is more than > strong enough for 99% of offroading needs. Another option for the rear is a reverse cut Dana 60. The advantage, other than the strength, is that the pinion in on top of the axle, not the bottom. This helps with the driveshaft angles in lifted applications. Mike |
Re: 93 YJ Axle Question
But a reverse cut in the rear is not as strong as a non-reverse cut axle in
the rear. A reverse-cut is stronger up front, but not in the rear. Jerry -- Jerry Bransford To email, remove 'me' from my email address KC6TAY, PP-ASEL See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ "Mike Borkhuis" <nospam@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:A%Jjb.35377$Hs.14811@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > > Other axles like a Ford 8.8 or 9" are good too but have a > > bit more to do first before they can be installed.... both are > > stronger than the Dana 44 but the Dana 44 is more than > > strong enough for 99% of offroading needs. > > Another option for the rear is a reverse cut Dana 60. The advantage, > other than the strength, is that the pinion in on top of the axle, not the > bottom. This helps with the driveshaft angles in lifted applications. > > Mike > > |
Re: 93 YJ Axle Question
But a reverse cut in the rear is not as strong as a non-reverse cut axle in
the rear. A reverse-cut is stronger up front, but not in the rear. Jerry -- Jerry Bransford To email, remove 'me' from my email address KC6TAY, PP-ASEL See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ "Mike Borkhuis" <nospam@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:A%Jjb.35377$Hs.14811@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > > Other axles like a Ford 8.8 or 9" are good too but have a > > bit more to do first before they can be installed.... both are > > stronger than the Dana 44 but the Dana 44 is more than > > strong enough for 99% of offroading needs. > > Another option for the rear is a reverse cut Dana 60. The advantage, > other than the strength, is that the pinion in on top of the axle, not the > bottom. This helps with the driveshaft angles in lifted applications. > > Mike > > |
Re: 93 YJ Axle Question
But a reverse cut in the rear is not as strong as a non-reverse cut axle in
the rear. A reverse-cut is stronger up front, but not in the rear. Jerry -- Jerry Bransford To email, remove 'me' from my email address KC6TAY, PP-ASEL See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ "Mike Borkhuis" <nospam@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:A%Jjb.35377$Hs.14811@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > > Other axles like a Ford 8.8 or 9" are good too but have a > > bit more to do first before they can be installed.... both are > > stronger than the Dana 44 but the Dana 44 is more than > > strong enough for 99% of offroading needs. > > Another option for the rear is a reverse cut Dana 60. The advantage, > other than the strength, is that the pinion in on top of the axle, not the > bottom. This helps with the driveshaft angles in lifted applications. > > Mike > > |
Re: 93 YJ Axle Question
Jerry Bransford wrote: > The Dana 30 is actually not a bad axle until you get into serious hard-core > stuff where you're running 37" or bigger. Built with decent hardened > aftermarket axle shafts like from Superior Axle or Warn, a Dana 30 does well > with 35" tires and serious wheeling. So that axle can likely stay in place, > though replacing that two-piece axle on the passenger-side with a one-piece > axle that also gets rid of the problematic disconnect system is a good idea. > > For most wheeling, a Dana 35c is "adequate".... but if you wheel seriously > and test yourself and the Jeep with bigger than stock tires and lockers, the > Dana 35c is clearly not strong enough, mainly the axle shafts are too small > and they break. A Dana 44 upgrade is the next bigger axle and works well > for tires up to around the 37" size, though really tough wheeling requires > its axle shafts be upgraded with hardened axles from Superior Axle. Dana > 44 axles are good because they're common and inexpensive, and can be a > relatively easy upgrade. > > Other axles like a Ford 8.8 or 9" are good too but have a bit more to do > first before they can be installed.... both are stronger than the Dana 44 > but the Dana 44 is more than strong enough for 99% of offroading needs. > > Jerry > ok, so really, if i install lockers in my 35 and 35c, even going with 33" tires i'd still be pretty safe? like i said, i'm not doing this full time, just weekend warrior type stuff. -- Ben Jerew ASE Master Technician New Country Lexus of Latham, NY Amateur Off-Roader |
Re: 93 YJ Axle Question
Jerry Bransford wrote: > The Dana 30 is actually not a bad axle until you get into serious hard-core > stuff where you're running 37" or bigger. Built with decent hardened > aftermarket axle shafts like from Superior Axle or Warn, a Dana 30 does well > with 35" tires and serious wheeling. So that axle can likely stay in place, > though replacing that two-piece axle on the passenger-side with a one-piece > axle that also gets rid of the problematic disconnect system is a good idea. > > For most wheeling, a Dana 35c is "adequate".... but if you wheel seriously > and test yourself and the Jeep with bigger than stock tires and lockers, the > Dana 35c is clearly not strong enough, mainly the axle shafts are too small > and they break. A Dana 44 upgrade is the next bigger axle and works well > for tires up to around the 37" size, though really tough wheeling requires > its axle shafts be upgraded with hardened axles from Superior Axle. Dana > 44 axles are good because they're common and inexpensive, and can be a > relatively easy upgrade. > > Other axles like a Ford 8.8 or 9" are good too but have a bit more to do > first before they can be installed.... both are stronger than the Dana 44 > but the Dana 44 is more than strong enough for 99% of offroading needs. > > Jerry > ok, so really, if i install lockers in my 35 and 35c, even going with 33" tires i'd still be pretty safe? like i said, i'm not doing this full time, just weekend warrior type stuff. -- Ben Jerew ASE Master Technician New Country Lexus of Latham, NY Amateur Off-Roader |
Re: 93 YJ Axle Question
Jerry Bransford wrote: > The Dana 30 is actually not a bad axle until you get into serious hard-core > stuff where you're running 37" or bigger. Built with decent hardened > aftermarket axle shafts like from Superior Axle or Warn, a Dana 30 does well > with 35" tires and serious wheeling. So that axle can likely stay in place, > though replacing that two-piece axle on the passenger-side with a one-piece > axle that also gets rid of the problematic disconnect system is a good idea. > > For most wheeling, a Dana 35c is "adequate".... but if you wheel seriously > and test yourself and the Jeep with bigger than stock tires and lockers, the > Dana 35c is clearly not strong enough, mainly the axle shafts are too small > and they break. A Dana 44 upgrade is the next bigger axle and works well > for tires up to around the 37" size, though really tough wheeling requires > its axle shafts be upgraded with hardened axles from Superior Axle. Dana > 44 axles are good because they're common and inexpensive, and can be a > relatively easy upgrade. > > Other axles like a Ford 8.8 or 9" are good too but have a bit more to do > first before they can be installed.... both are stronger than the Dana 44 > but the Dana 44 is more than strong enough for 99% of offroading needs. > > Jerry > ok, so really, if i install lockers in my 35 and 35c, even going with 33" tires i'd still be pretty safe? like i said, i'm not doing this full time, just weekend warrior type stuff. -- Ben Jerew ASE Master Technician New Country Lexus of Latham, NY Amateur Off-Roader |
Re: 93 YJ Axle Question
Hi Ben,
Please, send the pictures of your broke axle to: mailto:-------------------- to be displayed at: http://www.----------.com/dana35c/ God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O "MudPuppy1976 <\"moc.rr.pacyn\"@67lamina" wrote: > > ok, so really, if i install lockers in my 35 and 35c, even going with > 33" tires i'd still be pretty safe? like i said, i'm not doing this full > time, just weekend warrior type stuff. > > -- > Ben Jerew > ASE Master Technician > New Country Lexus of Latham, NY > Amateur Off-Roader |
Re: 93 YJ Axle Question
Hi Ben,
Please, send the pictures of your broke axle to: mailto:-------------------- to be displayed at: http://www.----------.com/dana35c/ God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O "MudPuppy1976 <\"moc.rr.pacyn\"@67lamina" wrote: > > ok, so really, if i install lockers in my 35 and 35c, even going with > 33" tires i'd still be pretty safe? like i said, i'm not doing this full > time, just weekend warrior type stuff. > > -- > Ben Jerew > ASE Master Technician > New Country Lexus of Latham, NY > Amateur Off-Roader |
Re: 93 YJ Axle Question
Hi Ben,
Please, send the pictures of your broke axle to: mailto:-------------------- to be displayed at: http://www.----------.com/dana35c/ God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O "MudPuppy1976 <\"moc.rr.pacyn\"@67lamina" wrote: > > ok, so really, if i install lockers in my 35 and 35c, even going with > 33" tires i'd still be pretty safe? like i said, i'm not doing this full > time, just weekend warrior type stuff. > > -- > Ben Jerew > ASE Master Technician > New Country Lexus of Latham, NY > Amateur Off-Roader |
Re: 93 YJ Axle Question
well, i haven't broken anything yet, but i'll keep you in mind *wikkid
grin* L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote: > Hi Ben, > Please, send the pictures of your broke axle to: > mailto:-------------------- to be displayed at: > http://www.----------.com/dana35c/ > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > "MudPuppy1976 <\"moc.rr.pacyn\"@67lamina" wrote: > >>ok, so really, if i install lockers in my 35 and 35c, even going with >>33" tires i'd still be pretty safe? like i said, i'm not doing this full >>time, just weekend warrior type stuff. -- Ben Jerew ASE Master Technician New Country Lexus of Latham, NY Amateur Off-Roader |
Re: 93 YJ Axle Question
well, i haven't broken anything yet, but i'll keep you in mind *wikkid
grin* L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote: > Hi Ben, > Please, send the pictures of your broke axle to: > mailto:-------------------- to be displayed at: > http://www.----------.com/dana35c/ > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > "MudPuppy1976 <\"moc.rr.pacyn\"@67lamina" wrote: > >>ok, so really, if i install lockers in my 35 and 35c, even going with >>33" tires i'd still be pretty safe? like i said, i'm not doing this full >>time, just weekend warrior type stuff. -- Ben Jerew ASE Master Technician New Country Lexus of Latham, NY Amateur Off-Roader |
Re: 93 YJ Axle Question
well, i haven't broken anything yet, but i'll keep you in mind *wikkid
grin* L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote: > Hi Ben, > Please, send the pictures of your broke axle to: > mailto:-------------------- to be displayed at: > http://www.----------.com/dana35c/ > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > "MudPuppy1976 <\"moc.rr.pacyn\"@67lamina" wrote: > >>ok, so really, if i install lockers in my 35 and 35c, even going with >>33" tires i'd still be pretty safe? like i said, i'm not doing this full >>time, just weekend warrior type stuff. -- Ben Jerew ASE Master Technician New Country Lexus of Latham, NY Amateur Off-Roader |
Re: 93 YJ Axle Question
Thanks.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "MudPuppy1976 <\"moc.rr.pacyn\"@67lamina" wrote: > > well, i haven't broken anything yet, but i'll keep you in mind *wikkid > grin* > -- > Ben Jerew > ASE Master Technician |
Re: 93 YJ Axle Question
Thanks.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "MudPuppy1976 <\"moc.rr.pacyn\"@67lamina" wrote: > > well, i haven't broken anything yet, but i'll keep you in mind *wikkid > grin* > -- > Ben Jerew > ASE Master Technician |
Re: 93 YJ Axle Question
Thanks.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "MudPuppy1976 <\"moc.rr.pacyn\"@67lamina" wrote: > > well, i haven't broken anything yet, but i'll keep you in mind *wikkid > grin* > -- > Ben Jerew > ASE Master Technician |
Re: 93 YJ Axle Question
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> > Other axles like a Ford 8.8 or 9" are good too but have a bit more to do > > first before they can be installed.... both are stronger than the Dana 44 > > but the Dana 44 is more than strong enough for 99% of offroading needs. > > > > Jerry > > > ok, so really, if i install lockers in my 35 and 35c, even going with > 33" tires i'd still be pretty safe? like i said, i'm not doing this full > time, just weekend warrior type stuff. Take in mind that lockers will put real strain on your axles. without lockers only the torque that is requires to spin ONE wheel is on the axle. With locker the torque required to spin BOTH wheels tortures the axles. Add in super grippy offroad tires and you are adding a LOT motr strain on those axles and diffs .... somthing to take in mind .. Make sure you build your jeep wisely ... just makeing one part bigger will cause others to break ... I.e. Huge tires are nice but they need strong axles stronger brakes and stronger steering. Otherwise these things will give up To the locker you need to decide if you can life with a detroit type which you cant disengage ... they are nice and cheap but suck downhills off camber (snow) as they will push you seidways... Other options are Oxlocker (IMO the best), and I think detroit makes a new electric locker .. I have an ARB in my 4Runner. Although the locker is great the air system certainly isnt... Only after ALL the airlines from the locker up were custom did it work ... and the ARB compressor still leaks (it will be welded soon). Do NOT get the ARB compressor with the ARB locker ... If you want more info .. email me ... Happy wheeling matt |
Re: 93 YJ Axle Question
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> > Other axles like a Ford 8.8 or 9" are good too but have a bit more to do > > first before they can be installed.... both are stronger than the Dana 44 > > but the Dana 44 is more than strong enough for 99% of offroading needs. > > > > Jerry > > > ok, so really, if i install lockers in my 35 and 35c, even going with > 33" tires i'd still be pretty safe? like i said, i'm not doing this full > time, just weekend warrior type stuff. Take in mind that lockers will put real strain on your axles. without lockers only the torque that is requires to spin ONE wheel is on the axle. With locker the torque required to spin BOTH wheels tortures the axles. Add in super grippy offroad tires and you are adding a LOT motr strain on those axles and diffs .... somthing to take in mind .. Make sure you build your jeep wisely ... just makeing one part bigger will cause others to break ... I.e. Huge tires are nice but they need strong axles stronger brakes and stronger steering. Otherwise these things will give up To the locker you need to decide if you can life with a detroit type which you cant disengage ... they are nice and cheap but suck downhills off camber (snow) as they will push you seidways... Other options are Oxlocker (IMO the best), and I think detroit makes a new electric locker .. I have an ARB in my 4Runner. Although the locker is great the air system certainly isnt... Only after ALL the airlines from the locker up were custom did it work ... and the ARB compressor still leaks (it will be welded soon). Do NOT get the ARB compressor with the ARB locker ... If you want more info .. email me ... Happy wheeling matt |
Re: 93 YJ Axle Question
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> > Other axles like a Ford 8.8 or 9" are good too but have a bit more to do > > first before they can be installed.... both are stronger than the Dana 44 > > but the Dana 44 is more than strong enough for 99% of offroading needs. > > > > Jerry > > > ok, so really, if i install lockers in my 35 and 35c, even going with > 33" tires i'd still be pretty safe? like i said, i'm not doing this full > time, just weekend warrior type stuff. Take in mind that lockers will put real strain on your axles. without lockers only the torque that is requires to spin ONE wheel is on the axle. With locker the torque required to spin BOTH wheels tortures the axles. Add in super grippy offroad tires and you are adding a LOT motr strain on those axles and diffs .... somthing to take in mind .. Make sure you build your jeep wisely ... just makeing one part bigger will cause others to break ... I.e. Huge tires are nice but they need strong axles stronger brakes and stronger steering. Otherwise these things will give up To the locker you need to decide if you can life with a detroit type which you cant disengage ... they are nice and cheap but suck downhills off camber (snow) as they will push you seidways... Other options are Oxlocker (IMO the best), and I think detroit makes a new electric locker .. I have an ARB in my 4Runner. Although the locker is great the air system certainly isnt... Only after ALL the airlines from the locker up were custom did it work ... and the ARB compressor still leaks (it will be welded soon). Do NOT get the ARB compressor with the ARB locker ... If you want more info .. email me ... Happy wheeling matt |
Re: 93 YJ Axle Question
> But a reverse cut in the rear is not as strong as a non-reverse cut
> axle in the rear. A reverse-cut is stronger up front, but not in the rear. True... The one article I remember reading on the subject mentioned that a reverse-cut Dana 60 was similar to a regular Dana 44..... Mike |
Re: 93 YJ Axle Question
> But a reverse cut in the rear is not as strong as a non-reverse cut
> axle in the rear. A reverse-cut is stronger up front, but not in the rear. True... The one article I remember reading on the subject mentioned that a reverse-cut Dana 60 was similar to a regular Dana 44..... Mike |
Re: 93 YJ Axle Question
> But a reverse cut in the rear is not as strong as a non-reverse cut
> axle in the rear. A reverse-cut is stronger up front, but not in the rear. True... The one article I remember reading on the subject mentioned that a reverse-cut Dana 60 was similar to a regular Dana 44..... Mike |
Re: 93 YJ Axle Question
"Mike Borkhuis" <nospam@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:tV4kb.30197$Sc7.4374@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > > But a reverse cut in the rear is not as strong as a non-reverse cut > > axle in the rear. A reverse-cut is stronger up front, but not in the > rear. > > True... The one article I remember reading on the subject mentioned > that a reverse-cut Dana 60 was similar to a regular Dana 44..... Then why bother with a D60 since a D44 offers greater ground clearance? Jerry -- Jerry Bransford To email, remove 'me' from my email address KC6TAY, PP-ASEL See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: 93 YJ Axle Question
"Mike Borkhuis" <nospam@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:tV4kb.30197$Sc7.4374@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > > But a reverse cut in the rear is not as strong as a non-reverse cut > > axle in the rear. A reverse-cut is stronger up front, but not in the > rear. > > True... The one article I remember reading on the subject mentioned > that a reverse-cut Dana 60 was similar to a regular Dana 44..... Then why bother with a D60 since a D44 offers greater ground clearance? Jerry -- Jerry Bransford To email, remove 'me' from my email address KC6TAY, PP-ASEL See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: 93 YJ Axle Question
"Mike Borkhuis" <nospam@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:tV4kb.30197$Sc7.4374@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > > But a reverse cut in the rear is not as strong as a non-reverse cut > > axle in the rear. A reverse-cut is stronger up front, but not in the > rear. > > True... The one article I remember reading on the subject mentioned > that a reverse-cut Dana 60 was similar to a regular Dana 44..... Then why bother with a D60 since a D44 offers greater ground clearance? Jerry -- Jerry Bransford To email, remove 'me' from my email address KC6TAY, PP-ASEL See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: 93 YJ Axle Question
> > > But a reverse cut in the rear is not as strong as a non-reverse
> > > cut axle in the rear. A reverse-cut is stronger up front, but > > > not in the rear. > > > > True... The one article I remember reading on the subject > > mentioned that a reverse-cut Dana 60 was similar to a regular > Dana 44..... > > Then why bother with a D60 since a D44 offers greater ground clearance? Because the reverse cut 60 puts the pinion on top.... Reducing the driveshaft angle compared to a regular setup. Mike |
Re: 93 YJ Axle Question
> > > But a reverse cut in the rear is not as strong as a non-reverse
> > > cut axle in the rear. A reverse-cut is stronger up front, but > > > not in the rear. > > > > True... The one article I remember reading on the subject > > mentioned that a reverse-cut Dana 60 was similar to a regular > Dana 44..... > > Then why bother with a D60 since a D44 offers greater ground clearance? Because the reverse cut 60 puts the pinion on top.... Reducing the driveshaft angle compared to a regular setup. Mike |
Re: 93 YJ Axle Question
> > > But a reverse cut in the rear is not as strong as a non-reverse
> > > cut axle in the rear. A reverse-cut is stronger up front, but > > > not in the rear. > > > > True... The one article I remember reading on the subject > > mentioned that a reverse-cut Dana 60 was similar to a regular > Dana 44..... > > Then why bother with a D60 since a D44 offers greater ground clearance? Because the reverse cut 60 puts the pinion on top.... Reducing the driveshaft angle compared to a regular setup. Mike |
Re: 93 YJ Axle Question
Jerry's got a point. I installed a standard D60 a few years ago, right
before all these custom-center section 60's came on the market. It lost me a great deal of clearance at the pumpkin, however it'll take something extraordinary to break it. IMHO, if you plan to stay with the I6 forever, the D44 or 9" is probably strong enough for anything you can throw at it....but, it's always nice to have some reserve! "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message news:fy7kb.86660$gv5.31228@fed1read05... > > "Mike Borkhuis" <nospam@nowhere.com> wrote in message > news:tV4kb.30197$Sc7.4374@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > > > But a reverse cut in the rear is not as strong as a non-reverse cut > > > axle in the rear. A reverse-cut is stronger up front, but not in the > > rear. > > > > True... The one article I remember reading on the subject mentioned > > that a reverse-cut Dana 60 was similar to a regular Dana 44..... > > Then why bother with a D60 since a D44 offers greater ground clearance? > > Jerry > -- > Jerry Bransford > To email, remove 'me' from my email address > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL > See the Geezer Jeep at > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > |
Re: 93 YJ Axle Question
Jerry's got a point. I installed a standard D60 a few years ago, right
before all these custom-center section 60's came on the market. It lost me a great deal of clearance at the pumpkin, however it'll take something extraordinary to break it. IMHO, if you plan to stay with the I6 forever, the D44 or 9" is probably strong enough for anything you can throw at it....but, it's always nice to have some reserve! "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message news:fy7kb.86660$gv5.31228@fed1read05... > > "Mike Borkhuis" <nospam@nowhere.com> wrote in message > news:tV4kb.30197$Sc7.4374@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > > > But a reverse cut in the rear is not as strong as a non-reverse cut > > > axle in the rear. A reverse-cut is stronger up front, but not in the > > rear. > > > > True... The one article I remember reading on the subject mentioned > > that a reverse-cut Dana 60 was similar to a regular Dana 44..... > > Then why bother with a D60 since a D44 offers greater ground clearance? > > Jerry > -- > Jerry Bransford > To email, remove 'me' from my email address > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL > See the Geezer Jeep at > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > |
Re: 93 YJ Axle Question
Jerry's got a point. I installed a standard D60 a few years ago, right
before all these custom-center section 60's came on the market. It lost me a great deal of clearance at the pumpkin, however it'll take something extraordinary to break it. IMHO, if you plan to stay with the I6 forever, the D44 or 9" is probably strong enough for anything you can throw at it....but, it's always nice to have some reserve! "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message news:fy7kb.86660$gv5.31228@fed1read05... > > "Mike Borkhuis" <nospam@nowhere.com> wrote in message > news:tV4kb.30197$Sc7.4374@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > > > But a reverse cut in the rear is not as strong as a non-reverse cut > > > axle in the rear. A reverse-cut is stronger up front, but not in the > > rear. > > > > True... The one article I remember reading on the subject mentioned > > that a reverse-cut Dana 60 was similar to a regular Dana 44..... > > Then why bother with a D60 since a D44 offers greater ground clearance? > > Jerry > -- > Jerry Bransford > To email, remove 'me' from my email address > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL > See the Geezer Jeep at > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > |
Re: 93 YJ Axle Question
we'll see what the trail throws at me. for now i'm sticking with the
I6. if somehow i strike oil or win money, then maybe i'll start going crazy with the jeep, heheheh. thanks for all the info guys. happy wheeling Gerald G. McGeorge wrote: > Jerry's got a point. I installed a standard D60 a few years ago, right > before all these custom-center section 60's came on the market. It lost me a > great deal of clearance at the pumpkin, however it'll take something > extraordinary to break it. > > IMHO, if you plan to stay with the I6 forever, the D44 or 9" is probably > strong enough for anything you can throw at it....but, it's always nice to > have some reserve! > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message > news:fy7kb.86660$gv5.31228@fed1read05... > >>"Mike Borkhuis" <nospam@nowhere.com> wrote in message >>news:tV4kb.30197$Sc7.4374@twister.nyroc.rr.com.. . >> >>>>But a reverse cut in the rear is not as strong as a non-reverse cut >>>>axle in the rear. A reverse-cut is stronger up front, but not in the >>> >>>rear. >>> >>> True... The one article I remember reading on the subject mentioned >>>that a reverse-cut Dana 60 was similar to a regular Dana 44..... >> >>Then why bother with a D60 since a D44 offers greater ground clearance? >> >>Jerry -- Ben Jerew ASE Master Technician New Country Lexus of Latham, NY Amateur Off-Roader |
Re: 93 YJ Axle Question
we'll see what the trail throws at me. for now i'm sticking with the
I6. if somehow i strike oil or win money, then maybe i'll start going crazy with the jeep, heheheh. thanks for all the info guys. happy wheeling Gerald G. McGeorge wrote: > Jerry's got a point. I installed a standard D60 a few years ago, right > before all these custom-center section 60's came on the market. It lost me a > great deal of clearance at the pumpkin, however it'll take something > extraordinary to break it. > > IMHO, if you plan to stay with the I6 forever, the D44 or 9" is probably > strong enough for anything you can throw at it....but, it's always nice to > have some reserve! > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message > news:fy7kb.86660$gv5.31228@fed1read05... > >>"Mike Borkhuis" <nospam@nowhere.com> wrote in message >>news:tV4kb.30197$Sc7.4374@twister.nyroc.rr.com.. . >> >>>>But a reverse cut in the rear is not as strong as a non-reverse cut >>>>axle in the rear. A reverse-cut is stronger up front, but not in the >>> >>>rear. >>> >>> True... The one article I remember reading on the subject mentioned >>>that a reverse-cut Dana 60 was similar to a regular Dana 44..... >> >>Then why bother with a D60 since a D44 offers greater ground clearance? >> >>Jerry -- Ben Jerew ASE Master Technician New Country Lexus of Latham, NY Amateur Off-Roader |
Re: 93 YJ Axle Question
we'll see what the trail throws at me. for now i'm sticking with the
I6. if somehow i strike oil or win money, then maybe i'll start going crazy with the jeep, heheheh. thanks for all the info guys. happy wheeling Gerald G. McGeorge wrote: > Jerry's got a point. I installed a standard D60 a few years ago, right > before all these custom-center section 60's came on the market. It lost me a > great deal of clearance at the pumpkin, however it'll take something > extraordinary to break it. > > IMHO, if you plan to stay with the I6 forever, the D44 or 9" is probably > strong enough for anything you can throw at it....but, it's always nice to > have some reserve! > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message > news:fy7kb.86660$gv5.31228@fed1read05... > >>"Mike Borkhuis" <nospam@nowhere.com> wrote in message >>news:tV4kb.30197$Sc7.4374@twister.nyroc.rr.com.. . >> >>>>But a reverse cut in the rear is not as strong as a non-reverse cut >>>>axle in the rear. A reverse-cut is stronger up front, but not in the >>> >>>rear. >>> >>> True... The one article I remember reading on the subject mentioned >>>that a reverse-cut Dana 60 was similar to a regular Dana 44..... >> >>Then why bother with a D60 since a D44 offers greater ground clearance? >> >>Jerry -- Ben Jerew ASE Master Technician New Country Lexus of Latham, NY Amateur Off-Roader |
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