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Walt Barie 10-30-2004 08:17 PM

'93 GC Seat Belt Warning Buzzer stays on
 
Now that it has gotten cooler, it seems that the seatbelt warning buzzer
in my 93 GC is staying on after starting the vehicle. It seems to be
temperature sensitive with the buzzer only staying on when the temp
<60F. This tends to happen in the morning and the buzzer can stay on
for 5 - 10 minutes before it turns itself off. The warning light on the
dash goes off only after a few seconds like it always did. It does not
seem to matter if I buckle the belt before or after I start the engine.
When the buzzer finally turns off it slowly turns off with a few on
and off cycles.

So my question is...Is there a buzzer module that I can remove to stop
the incessant electronic buzz? And if so does anyone know were it is
located? With the winter coming I don't think that I can take the
buzzer buzzing 10 minutes every morning.

Walt B.

DougW 10-31-2004 01:09 AM

Re: '93 GC Seat Belt Warning Buzzer stays on
 
Walt Barie did pass the time by typing:
> Now that it has gotten cooler, it seems that the seatbelt warning buzzer
> in my 93 GC is staying on after starting the vehicle. It seems to be
> temperature sensitive with the buzzer only staying on when the temp
> <60F. This tends to happen in the morning and the buzzer can stay on
> for 5 - 10 minutes before it turns itself off. The warning light on the
> dash goes off only after a few seconds like it always did. It does not
> seem to matter if I buckle the belt before or after I start the engine.
> When the buzzer finally turns off it slowly turns off with a few on
> and off cycles.
>
> So my question is...Is there a buzzer module that I can remove to stop
> the incessant electronic buzz? And if so does anyone know were it is
> located? With the winter coming I don't think that I can take the
> buzzer buzzing 10 minutes every morning.


Follow the seat belt harness down to the carpet and find the wire.
Light Green with a Red stripe. Ground the wire to the chassis and that
will bypass the switch that has started to fail. Or clean the seatbelt
switch. (a real pain in the butt)

You can't directly pull the module, it's tied into other things.


--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!



DougW 10-31-2004 01:09 AM

Re: '93 GC Seat Belt Warning Buzzer stays on
 
Walt Barie did pass the time by typing:
> Now that it has gotten cooler, it seems that the seatbelt warning buzzer
> in my 93 GC is staying on after starting the vehicle. It seems to be
> temperature sensitive with the buzzer only staying on when the temp
> <60F. This tends to happen in the morning and the buzzer can stay on
> for 5 - 10 minutes before it turns itself off. The warning light on the
> dash goes off only after a few seconds like it always did. It does not
> seem to matter if I buckle the belt before or after I start the engine.
> When the buzzer finally turns off it slowly turns off with a few on
> and off cycles.
>
> So my question is...Is there a buzzer module that I can remove to stop
> the incessant electronic buzz? And if so does anyone know were it is
> located? With the winter coming I don't think that I can take the
> buzzer buzzing 10 minutes every morning.


Follow the seat belt harness down to the carpet and find the wire.
Light Green with a Red stripe. Ground the wire to the chassis and that
will bypass the switch that has started to fail. Or clean the seatbelt
switch. (a real pain in the butt)

You can't directly pull the module, it's tied into other things.


--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!



DougW 10-31-2004 01:09 AM

Re: '93 GC Seat Belt Warning Buzzer stays on
 
Walt Barie did pass the time by typing:
> Now that it has gotten cooler, it seems that the seatbelt warning buzzer
> in my 93 GC is staying on after starting the vehicle. It seems to be
> temperature sensitive with the buzzer only staying on when the temp
> <60F. This tends to happen in the morning and the buzzer can stay on
> for 5 - 10 minutes before it turns itself off. The warning light on the
> dash goes off only after a few seconds like it always did. It does not
> seem to matter if I buckle the belt before or after I start the engine.
> When the buzzer finally turns off it slowly turns off with a few on
> and off cycles.
>
> So my question is...Is there a buzzer module that I can remove to stop
> the incessant electronic buzz? And if so does anyone know were it is
> located? With the winter coming I don't think that I can take the
> buzzer buzzing 10 minutes every morning.


Follow the seat belt harness down to the carpet and find the wire.
Light Green with a Red stripe. Ground the wire to the chassis and that
will bypass the switch that has started to fail. Or clean the seatbelt
switch. (a real pain in the butt)

You can't directly pull the module, it's tied into other things.


--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!



Walt Barie 10-31-2004 12:25 PM

Re: '93 GC Seat Belt Warning Buzzer stays on
 
Thanks I'll look for the wire today.


DougW wrote:
> Walt Barie did pass the time by typing:
>
>>Now that it has gotten cooler, it seems that the seatbelt warning buzzer
>>in my 93 GC is staying on after starting the vehicle. It seems to be
>>temperature sensitive with the buzzer only staying on when the temp
>><60F. This tends to happen in the morning and the buzzer can stay on
>>for 5 - 10 minutes before it turns itself off. The warning light on the
>>dash goes off only after a few seconds like it always did. It does not
>>seem to matter if I buckle the belt before or after I start the engine.
>> When the buzzer finally turns off it slowly turns off with a few on
>>and off cycles.
>>
>>So my question is...Is there a buzzer module that I can remove to stop
>>the incessant electronic buzz? And if so does anyone know were it is
>>located? With the winter coming I don't think that I can take the
>>buzzer buzzing 10 minutes every morning.

>
>
> Follow the seat belt harness down to the carpet and find the wire.
> Light Green with a Red stripe. Ground the wire to the chassis and that
> will bypass the switch that has started to fail. Or clean the seatbelt
> switch. (a real pain in the butt)
>
> You can't directly pull the module, it's tied into other things.
>
>


Walt Barie 10-31-2004 12:25 PM

Re: '93 GC Seat Belt Warning Buzzer stays on
 
Thanks I'll look for the wire today.


DougW wrote:
> Walt Barie did pass the time by typing:
>
>>Now that it has gotten cooler, it seems that the seatbelt warning buzzer
>>in my 93 GC is staying on after starting the vehicle. It seems to be
>>temperature sensitive with the buzzer only staying on when the temp
>><60F. This tends to happen in the morning and the buzzer can stay on
>>for 5 - 10 minutes before it turns itself off. The warning light on the
>>dash goes off only after a few seconds like it always did. It does not
>>seem to matter if I buckle the belt before or after I start the engine.
>> When the buzzer finally turns off it slowly turns off with a few on
>>and off cycles.
>>
>>So my question is...Is there a buzzer module that I can remove to stop
>>the incessant electronic buzz? And if so does anyone know were it is
>>located? With the winter coming I don't think that I can take the
>>buzzer buzzing 10 minutes every morning.

>
>
> Follow the seat belt harness down to the carpet and find the wire.
> Light Green with a Red stripe. Ground the wire to the chassis and that
> will bypass the switch that has started to fail. Or clean the seatbelt
> switch. (a real pain in the butt)
>
> You can't directly pull the module, it's tied into other things.
>
>


Walt Barie 10-31-2004 12:25 PM

Re: '93 GC Seat Belt Warning Buzzer stays on
 
Thanks I'll look for the wire today.


DougW wrote:
> Walt Barie did pass the time by typing:
>
>>Now that it has gotten cooler, it seems that the seatbelt warning buzzer
>>in my 93 GC is staying on after starting the vehicle. It seems to be
>>temperature sensitive with the buzzer only staying on when the temp
>><60F. This tends to happen in the morning and the buzzer can stay on
>>for 5 - 10 minutes before it turns itself off. The warning light on the
>>dash goes off only after a few seconds like it always did. It does not
>>seem to matter if I buckle the belt before or after I start the engine.
>> When the buzzer finally turns off it slowly turns off with a few on
>>and off cycles.
>>
>>So my question is...Is there a buzzer module that I can remove to stop
>>the incessant electronic buzz? And if so does anyone know were it is
>>located? With the winter coming I don't think that I can take the
>>buzzer buzzing 10 minutes every morning.

>
>
> Follow the seat belt harness down to the carpet and find the wire.
> Light Green with a Red stripe. Ground the wire to the chassis and that
> will bypass the switch that has started to fail. Or clean the seatbelt
> switch. (a real pain in the butt)
>
> You can't directly pull the module, it's tied into other things.
>
>


Walt Barie 11-03-2004 06:34 PM

Re: '93 GC Seat Belt Warning Buzzer stays on
 
Well unfortunately grounding and/or shorting the wires going to and from
the buckle did not help the situation. I pulled the pink colored module
located under the dash to quiet the infernal buzzer. Does anyone know
if these modules typically go bad or could I go junk yarding and pick up
another one.

Walt B.


Walt B wrote:
> Thanks I'll look for the wire today.
>
>
> DougW wrote:
>
>> Walt Barie did pass the time by typing:
>>
>>> Now that it has gotten cooler, it seems that the seatbelt warning buzzer
>>> in my 93 GC is staying on after starting the vehicle. It seems to be
>>> temperature sensitive with the buzzer only staying on when the temp
>>> <60F. This tends to happen in the morning and the buzzer can stay on
>>> for 5 - 10 minutes before it turns itself off. The warning light on the
>>> dash goes off only after a few seconds like it always did. It does not
>>> seem to matter if I buckle the belt before or after I start the engine.
>>> When the buzzer finally turns off it slowly turns off with a few on
>>> and off cycles.
>>>
>>> So my question is...Is there a buzzer module that I can remove to stop
>>> the incessant electronic buzz? And if so does anyone know were it is
>>> located? With the winter coming I don't think that I can take the
>>> buzzer buzzing 10 minutes every morning.

>>
>>
>>
>> Follow the seat belt harness down to the carpet and find the wire.
>> Light Green with a Red stripe. Ground the wire to the chassis and that
>> will bypass the switch that has started to fail. Or clean the seatbelt
>> switch. (a real pain in the butt)
>>
>> You can't directly pull the module, it's tied into other things.
>>
>>


Walt Barie 11-03-2004 06:34 PM

Re: '93 GC Seat Belt Warning Buzzer stays on
 
Well unfortunately grounding and/or shorting the wires going to and from
the buckle did not help the situation. I pulled the pink colored module
located under the dash to quiet the infernal buzzer. Does anyone know
if these modules typically go bad or could I go junk yarding and pick up
another one.

Walt B.


Walt B wrote:
> Thanks I'll look for the wire today.
>
>
> DougW wrote:
>
>> Walt Barie did pass the time by typing:
>>
>>> Now that it has gotten cooler, it seems that the seatbelt warning buzzer
>>> in my 93 GC is staying on after starting the vehicle. It seems to be
>>> temperature sensitive with the buzzer only staying on when the temp
>>> <60F. This tends to happen in the morning and the buzzer can stay on
>>> for 5 - 10 minutes before it turns itself off. The warning light on the
>>> dash goes off only after a few seconds like it always did. It does not
>>> seem to matter if I buckle the belt before or after I start the engine.
>>> When the buzzer finally turns off it slowly turns off with a few on
>>> and off cycles.
>>>
>>> So my question is...Is there a buzzer module that I can remove to stop
>>> the incessant electronic buzz? And if so does anyone know were it is
>>> located? With the winter coming I don't think that I can take the
>>> buzzer buzzing 10 minutes every morning.

>>
>>
>>
>> Follow the seat belt harness down to the carpet and find the wire.
>> Light Green with a Red stripe. Ground the wire to the chassis and that
>> will bypass the switch that has started to fail. Or clean the seatbelt
>> switch. (a real pain in the butt)
>>
>> You can't directly pull the module, it's tied into other things.
>>
>>


DougW 11-03-2004 07:16 PM

Re: '93 GC Seat Belt Warning Buzzer stays on
 
Walt Barie did pass the time by typing:
> Well unfortunately grounding and/or shorting the wires going to and from
> the buckle did not help the situation. I pulled the pink colored module
> located under the dash to quiet the infernal buzzer. Does anyone know
> if these modules typically go bad or could I go junk yarding and pick up
> another one.


Odd. :/

Cavity C4 in the socket where the chime plugs is the line to the seatbelt
if you have a multimeter you could check the switch.

With the chime module out you won't get "lamps on", "turnsignal left running",
or "key in the ignition" beeps. And you will be able to lock the drivers door
using the powerlocks if the key is in the ignition.

Never heard of a module going bad. The pinout is like this.
(looking into the socket where the chime module plugs)

[ ]
C1 C2 C3 C4
C8 C7 C6 C5

C1 - Fused Ignition (12V) Running
C2 - Seat belt lamp (bulb on the dash)
C3 - Ground
C4 - Seat Belt Switch
C5 - Power Door Lock Inhibit
C6 - Fused Battery (12V) Constant
C7 - Headlamp Switch
C8 - Tone Line (chime from the VIC)

Don't have any details on the modules guts.

--
DougW




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