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testert555@gmail.com 01-05-2006 03:38 PM

91 YJ Heater problem
 
91 YJ 4.0 (125k miles, no AC)

While driving home from work yesterday I noticed the heater was blowing
cold air only. This may have started several days ago but I really
didn't notice. I watched the temp and it remained consistant (210 +-3
degrees).

This morning on the way to work I was ultra paranoid about the temp. I
noticed at highway speed it was normal, but at highway stop lights (2
min) it would creep up (+10 degrees). Once I got moving again the temp
would go back to normal.

At the office I checked the coolant level and found it to be low (I
could see it at the bottom of the resv). At luch I went out to get
some coolant and magically the heater was working fine. After driving
the Jeep to normal operating temp, I idled for 20 min without
experiencing a large jump in the temperature.

Would anything other then a block in the heater core cause the lose of
heat? Would a blocked heater core cause the temp to fluxuate as
described?

When adding less then a gallon of coolant, can I use water only? I had
the water pump changed last winter, and I don't know what type of
coolant was used. Can I just match colors?

Thanks for the help.

CTM


Mike Romain 01-05-2006 03:46 PM

Re: 91 YJ Heater problem
 
Your radiator is low on coolant. You need to use a mix to top it up.
You are pretty safe with the same color I think. Top up the rad first,
then top up the overflow to be sure the rad still doesn't have air
inside.

You are describing low coolant in the rad with the temp changes.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

"testert555@gmail.com" wrote:
>
> 91 YJ 4.0 (125k miles, no AC)
>
> While driving home from work yesterday I noticed the heater was blowing
> cold air only. This may have started several days ago but I really
> didn't notice. I watched the temp and it remained consistant (210 +-3
> degrees).
>
> This morning on the way to work I was ultra paranoid about the temp. I
> noticed at highway speed it was normal, but at highway stop lights (2
> min) it would creep up (+10 degrees). Once I got moving again the temp
> would go back to normal.
>
> At the office I checked the coolant level and found it to be low (I
> could see it at the bottom of the resv). At luch I went out to get
> some coolant and magically the heater was working fine. After driving
> the Jeep to normal operating temp, I idled for 20 min without
> experiencing a large jump in the temperature.
>
> Would anything other then a block in the heater core cause the lose of
> heat? Would a blocked heater core cause the temp to fluxuate as
> described?
>
> When adding less then a gallon of coolant, can I use water only? I had
> the water pump changed last winter, and I don't know what type of
> coolant was used. Can I just match colors?
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> CTM


Mike Romain 01-05-2006 03:46 PM

Re: 91 YJ Heater problem
 
Your radiator is low on coolant. You need to use a mix to top it up.
You are pretty safe with the same color I think. Top up the rad first,
then top up the overflow to be sure the rad still doesn't have air
inside.

You are describing low coolant in the rad with the temp changes.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

"testert555@gmail.com" wrote:
>
> 91 YJ 4.0 (125k miles, no AC)
>
> While driving home from work yesterday I noticed the heater was blowing
> cold air only. This may have started several days ago but I really
> didn't notice. I watched the temp and it remained consistant (210 +-3
> degrees).
>
> This morning on the way to work I was ultra paranoid about the temp. I
> noticed at highway speed it was normal, but at highway stop lights (2
> min) it would creep up (+10 degrees). Once I got moving again the temp
> would go back to normal.
>
> At the office I checked the coolant level and found it to be low (I
> could see it at the bottom of the resv). At luch I went out to get
> some coolant and magically the heater was working fine. After driving
> the Jeep to normal operating temp, I idled for 20 min without
> experiencing a large jump in the temperature.
>
> Would anything other then a block in the heater core cause the lose of
> heat? Would a blocked heater core cause the temp to fluxuate as
> described?
>
> When adding less then a gallon of coolant, can I use water only? I had
> the water pump changed last winter, and I don't know what type of
> coolant was used. Can I just match colors?
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> CTM


Mike Romain 01-05-2006 03:46 PM

Re: 91 YJ Heater problem
 
Your radiator is low on coolant. You need to use a mix to top it up.
You are pretty safe with the same color I think. Top up the rad first,
then top up the overflow to be sure the rad still doesn't have air
inside.

You are describing low coolant in the rad with the temp changes.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

"testert555@gmail.com" wrote:
>
> 91 YJ 4.0 (125k miles, no AC)
>
> While driving home from work yesterday I noticed the heater was blowing
> cold air only. This may have started several days ago but I really
> didn't notice. I watched the temp and it remained consistant (210 +-3
> degrees).
>
> This morning on the way to work I was ultra paranoid about the temp. I
> noticed at highway speed it was normal, but at highway stop lights (2
> min) it would creep up (+10 degrees). Once I got moving again the temp
> would go back to normal.
>
> At the office I checked the coolant level and found it to be low (I
> could see it at the bottom of the resv). At luch I went out to get
> some coolant and magically the heater was working fine. After driving
> the Jeep to normal operating temp, I idled for 20 min without
> experiencing a large jump in the temperature.
>
> Would anything other then a block in the heater core cause the lose of
> heat? Would a blocked heater core cause the temp to fluxuate as
> described?
>
> When adding less then a gallon of coolant, can I use water only? I had
> the water pump changed last winter, and I don't know what type of
> coolant was used. Can I just match colors?
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> CTM


billy ray 01-05-2006 04:05 PM

Re: 91 YJ Heater problem
 
A low coolant level will almost always result in poor or no heat output.

If you have American Green then you can, most likely just top it off with a
50/50 mix. Do Not just use water.

What color coolant do you have?


<testert555@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1136493497.626621.47840@g44g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> 91 YJ 4.0 (125k miles, no AC)
>
> While driving home from work yesterday I noticed the heater was blowing
> cold air only. This may have started several days ago but I really
> didn't notice. I watched the temp and it remained consistant (210 +-3
> degrees).
>
> This morning on the way to work I was ultra paranoid about the temp. I
> noticed at highway speed it was normal, but at highway stop lights (2
> min) it would creep up (+10 degrees). Once I got moving again the temp
> would go back to normal.
>
> At the office I checked the coolant level and found it to be low (I
> could see it at the bottom of the resv). At luch I went out to get
> some coolant and magically the heater was working fine. After driving
> the Jeep to normal operating temp, I idled for 20 min without
> experiencing a large jump in the temperature.
>
> Would anything other then a block in the heater core cause the lose of
> heat? Would a blocked heater core cause the temp to fluxuate as
> described?
>
> When adding less then a gallon of coolant, can I use water only? I had
> the water pump changed last winter, and I don't know what type of
> coolant was used. Can I just match colors?
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> CTM
>




billy ray 01-05-2006 04:05 PM

Re: 91 YJ Heater problem
 
A low coolant level will almost always result in poor or no heat output.

If you have American Green then you can, most likely just top it off with a
50/50 mix. Do Not just use water.

What color coolant do you have?


<testert555@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1136493497.626621.47840@g44g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> 91 YJ 4.0 (125k miles, no AC)
>
> While driving home from work yesterday I noticed the heater was blowing
> cold air only. This may have started several days ago but I really
> didn't notice. I watched the temp and it remained consistant (210 +-3
> degrees).
>
> This morning on the way to work I was ultra paranoid about the temp. I
> noticed at highway speed it was normal, but at highway stop lights (2
> min) it would creep up (+10 degrees). Once I got moving again the temp
> would go back to normal.
>
> At the office I checked the coolant level and found it to be low (I
> could see it at the bottom of the resv). At luch I went out to get
> some coolant and magically the heater was working fine. After driving
> the Jeep to normal operating temp, I idled for 20 min without
> experiencing a large jump in the temperature.
>
> Would anything other then a block in the heater core cause the lose of
> heat? Would a blocked heater core cause the temp to fluxuate as
> described?
>
> When adding less then a gallon of coolant, can I use water only? I had
> the water pump changed last winter, and I don't know what type of
> coolant was used. Can I just match colors?
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> CTM
>




billy ray 01-05-2006 04:05 PM

Re: 91 YJ Heater problem
 
A low coolant level will almost always result in poor or no heat output.

If you have American Green then you can, most likely just top it off with a
50/50 mix. Do Not just use water.

What color coolant do you have?


<testert555@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1136493497.626621.47840@g44g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> 91 YJ 4.0 (125k miles, no AC)
>
> While driving home from work yesterday I noticed the heater was blowing
> cold air only. This may have started several days ago but I really
> didn't notice. I watched the temp and it remained consistant (210 +-3
> degrees).
>
> This morning on the way to work I was ultra paranoid about the temp. I
> noticed at highway speed it was normal, but at highway stop lights (2
> min) it would creep up (+10 degrees). Once I got moving again the temp
> would go back to normal.
>
> At the office I checked the coolant level and found it to be low (I
> could see it at the bottom of the resv). At luch I went out to get
> some coolant and magically the heater was working fine. After driving
> the Jeep to normal operating temp, I idled for 20 min without
> experiencing a large jump in the temperature.
>
> Would anything other then a block in the heater core cause the lose of
> heat? Would a blocked heater core cause the temp to fluxuate as
> described?
>
> When adding less then a gallon of coolant, can I use water only? I had
> the water pump changed last winter, and I don't know what type of
> coolant was used. Can I just match colors?
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> CTM
>




Nick 01-05-2006 08:35 PM

Re: 91 YJ Heater problem
 
your core could be clogged. unhook both hoses going to the heater core, at
the engine side, and stick a garden hose on the side where the coolent flows
back to the engine. Turn on the hose and watch your core cough up some
horrible junk! Your all set now...
Nick

<testert555@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1136493497.626621.47840@g44g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> 91 YJ 4.0 (125k miles, no AC)
>
> While driving home from work yesterday I noticed the heater was blowing
> cold air only. This may have started several days ago but I really
> didn't notice. I watched the temp and it remained consistant (210 +-3
> degrees).
>
> This morning on the way to work I was ultra paranoid about the temp. I
> noticed at highway speed it was normal, but at highway stop lights (2
> min) it would creep up (+10 degrees). Once I got moving again the temp
> would go back to normal.
>
> At the office I checked the coolant level and found it to be low (I
> could see it at the bottom of the resv). At luch I went out to get
> some coolant and magically the heater was working fine. After driving
> the Jeep to normal operating temp, I idled for 20 min without
> experiencing a large jump in the temperature.
>
> Would anything other then a block in the heater core cause the lose of
> heat? Would a blocked heater core cause the temp to fluxuate as
> described?
>
> When adding less then a gallon of coolant, can I use water only? I had
> the water pump changed last winter, and I don't know what type of
> coolant was used. Can I just match colors?
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> CTM
>




Nick 01-05-2006 08:35 PM

Re: 91 YJ Heater problem
 
your core could be clogged. unhook both hoses going to the heater core, at
the engine side, and stick a garden hose on the side where the coolent flows
back to the engine. Turn on the hose and watch your core cough up some
horrible junk! Your all set now...
Nick

<testert555@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1136493497.626621.47840@g44g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> 91 YJ 4.0 (125k miles, no AC)
>
> While driving home from work yesterday I noticed the heater was blowing
> cold air only. This may have started several days ago but I really
> didn't notice. I watched the temp and it remained consistant (210 +-3
> degrees).
>
> This morning on the way to work I was ultra paranoid about the temp. I
> noticed at highway speed it was normal, but at highway stop lights (2
> min) it would creep up (+10 degrees). Once I got moving again the temp
> would go back to normal.
>
> At the office I checked the coolant level and found it to be low (I
> could see it at the bottom of the resv). At luch I went out to get
> some coolant and magically the heater was working fine. After driving
> the Jeep to normal operating temp, I idled for 20 min without
> experiencing a large jump in the temperature.
>
> Would anything other then a block in the heater core cause the lose of
> heat? Would a blocked heater core cause the temp to fluxuate as
> described?
>
> When adding less then a gallon of coolant, can I use water only? I had
> the water pump changed last winter, and I don't know what type of
> coolant was used. Can I just match colors?
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> CTM
>




Nick 01-05-2006 08:35 PM

Re: 91 YJ Heater problem
 
your core could be clogged. unhook both hoses going to the heater core, at
the engine side, and stick a garden hose on the side where the coolent flows
back to the engine. Turn on the hose and watch your core cough up some
horrible junk! Your all set now...
Nick

<testert555@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1136493497.626621.47840@g44g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> 91 YJ 4.0 (125k miles, no AC)
>
> While driving home from work yesterday I noticed the heater was blowing
> cold air only. This may have started several days ago but I really
> didn't notice. I watched the temp and it remained consistant (210 +-3
> degrees).
>
> This morning on the way to work I was ultra paranoid about the temp. I
> noticed at highway speed it was normal, but at highway stop lights (2
> min) it would creep up (+10 degrees). Once I got moving again the temp
> would go back to normal.
>
> At the office I checked the coolant level and found it to be low (I
> could see it at the bottom of the resv). At luch I went out to get
> some coolant and magically the heater was working fine. After driving
> the Jeep to normal operating temp, I idled for 20 min without
> experiencing a large jump in the temperature.
>
> Would anything other then a block in the heater core cause the lose of
> heat? Would a blocked heater core cause the temp to fluxuate as
> described?
>
> When adding less then a gallon of coolant, can I use water only? I had
> the water pump changed last winter, and I don't know what type of
> coolant was used. Can I just match colors?
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> CTM
>




macgraphics 01-08-2006 12:05 PM

Re: 91 YJ Heater problem
 
I just purchased a 91 YJ with the same symptom. The gage shows that the
engine is warming up but it does not blow any hot air. I topped off the
rad and overflow and then took it for a little ride, still no hot air.
Other posts mention disconnecting hoses and attaching a garden hose to
wash out any blockage. Mike, you definitely seem to be the man in this
forum. I am a newbie, but I can follow directions. I would like to try
to flush out these hoses to see if they are blocked. Do you think you
can provide me with some clear directions on this? It seems like a
relatively simply procedure, I just don't want to disconnect the wrong
hoses. Where exactly are these hoses located? Which end do I
disconnect? Thanks, I have learned so much reading your posts for about
a month. Thanks again - Mark


macgraphics 01-08-2006 12:05 PM

Re: 91 YJ Heater problem
 
I just purchased a 91 YJ with the same symptom. The gage shows that the
engine is warming up but it does not blow any hot air. I topped off the
rad and overflow and then took it for a little ride, still no hot air.
Other posts mention disconnecting hoses and attaching a garden hose to
wash out any blockage. Mike, you definitely seem to be the man in this
forum. I am a newbie, but I can follow directions. I would like to try
to flush out these hoses to see if they are blocked. Do you think you
can provide me with some clear directions on this? It seems like a
relatively simply procedure, I just don't want to disconnect the wrong
hoses. Where exactly are these hoses located? Which end do I
disconnect? Thanks, I have learned so much reading your posts for about
a month. Thanks again - Mark


macgraphics 01-08-2006 12:05 PM

Re: 91 YJ Heater problem
 
I just purchased a 91 YJ with the same symptom. The gage shows that the
engine is warming up but it does not blow any hot air. I topped off the
rad and overflow and then took it for a little ride, still no hot air.
Other posts mention disconnecting hoses and attaching a garden hose to
wash out any blockage. Mike, you definitely seem to be the man in this
forum. I am a newbie, but I can follow directions. I would like to try
to flush out these hoses to see if they are blocked. Do you think you
can provide me with some clear directions on this? It seems like a
relatively simply procedure, I just don't want to disconnect the wrong
hoses. Where exactly are these hoses located? Which end do I
disconnect? Thanks, I have learned so much reading your posts for about
a month. Thanks again - Mark


testert555@gmail.com 01-09-2006 09:03 AM

Re: 91 YJ Heater problem
 
Mark,
There was a post I read while researching the problem. It described
feeling the hoses to determine if the core is blocked. If it is
blocked, one will feel significantly hotter then the other. There were
also many people that warned that if you use too high of a pressure,
you will blow out the core.

Pick up a copy of a Chilton or Hayes manual. The graphic make it much
easier to understand what is described in the forum.

CTM


testert555@gmail.com 01-09-2006 09:03 AM

Re: 91 YJ Heater problem
 
Mark,
There was a post I read while researching the problem. It described
feeling the hoses to determine if the core is blocked. If it is
blocked, one will feel significantly hotter then the other. There were
also many people that warned that if you use too high of a pressure,
you will blow out the core.

Pick up a copy of a Chilton or Hayes manual. The graphic make it much
easier to understand what is described in the forum.

CTM


testert555@gmail.com 01-09-2006 09:03 AM

Re: 91 YJ Heater problem
 
Mark,
There was a post I read while researching the problem. It described
feeling the hoses to determine if the core is blocked. If it is
blocked, one will feel significantly hotter then the other. There were
also many people that warned that if you use too high of a pressure,
you will blow out the core.

Pick up a copy of a Chilton or Hayes manual. The graphic make it much
easier to understand what is described in the forum.

CTM


macgraphics 01-09-2006 03:25 PM

Re: 91 YJ Heater problem
 
I fixed the problem. It was actually a whole lot easier than I had
imagined. I unhooked both heater hoses (from the engine end) and
attached a garden hose (with an attachment), ran the water and repeated
on the other hose. There really was not much to it. I was expecting
huge globs of stuff to flow out, never really got any; I just waited
until it looked like it was just clear water flowing through the hoses.
Hooked everything back up and I had heat. Being a newbie, I was just
hesitant but it was really extremely easy. Thank you everyone for your
advice. This forum continues to teach me loads.


macgraphics 01-09-2006 03:25 PM

Re: 91 YJ Heater problem
 
I fixed the problem. It was actually a whole lot easier than I had
imagined. I unhooked both heater hoses (from the engine end) and
attached a garden hose (with an attachment), ran the water and repeated
on the other hose. There really was not much to it. I was expecting
huge globs of stuff to flow out, never really got any; I just waited
until it looked like it was just clear water flowing through the hoses.
Hooked everything back up and I had heat. Being a newbie, I was just
hesitant but it was really extremely easy. Thank you everyone for your
advice. This forum continues to teach me loads.


macgraphics 01-09-2006 03:25 PM

Re: 91 YJ Heater problem
 
I fixed the problem. It was actually a whole lot easier than I had
imagined. I unhooked both heater hoses (from the engine end) and
attached a garden hose (with an attachment), ran the water and repeated
on the other hose. There really was not much to it. I was expecting
huge globs of stuff to flow out, never really got any; I just waited
until it looked like it was just clear water flowing through the hoses.
Hooked everything back up and I had heat. Being a newbie, I was just
hesitant but it was really extremely easy. Thank you everyone for your
advice. This forum continues to teach me loads.


Will Honea 01-09-2006 11:44 PM

Re: 91 YJ Heater problem
 
Next time you are in there, run the hose through in one direction for
while, then switch the connection and flush in the other direction.
Betcha it takes 2-3 swaps to get it clear both ways. The crud just
migrates top to bottom or into the cores and it takes some patience to
get it all out.

On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 20:25:05 UTC "macgraphics" <macleans@metrocast.net>
wrote:

> I fixed the problem. It was actually a whole lot easier than I had
> imagined. I unhooked both heater hoses (from the engine end) and
> attached a garden hose (with an attachment), ran the water and repeated
> on the other hose. There really was not much to it. I was expecting
> huge globs of stuff to flow out, never really got any; I just waited
> until it looked like it was just clear water flowing through the hoses.
> Hooked everything back up and I had heat. Being a newbie, I was just
> hesitant but it was really extremely easy. Thank you everyone for your
> advice. This forum continues to teach me loads.
>



--
Will Honea

Will Honea 01-09-2006 11:44 PM

Re: 91 YJ Heater problem
 
Next time you are in there, run the hose through in one direction for
while, then switch the connection and flush in the other direction.
Betcha it takes 2-3 swaps to get it clear both ways. The crud just
migrates top to bottom or into the cores and it takes some patience to
get it all out.

On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 20:25:05 UTC "macgraphics" <macleans@metrocast.net>
wrote:

> I fixed the problem. It was actually a whole lot easier than I had
> imagined. I unhooked both heater hoses (from the engine end) and
> attached a garden hose (with an attachment), ran the water and repeated
> on the other hose. There really was not much to it. I was expecting
> huge globs of stuff to flow out, never really got any; I just waited
> until it looked like it was just clear water flowing through the hoses.
> Hooked everything back up and I had heat. Being a newbie, I was just
> hesitant but it was really extremely easy. Thank you everyone for your
> advice. This forum continues to teach me loads.
>



--
Will Honea

Will Honea 01-09-2006 11:44 PM

Re: 91 YJ Heater problem
 
Next time you are in there, run the hose through in one direction for
while, then switch the connection and flush in the other direction.
Betcha it takes 2-3 swaps to get it clear both ways. The crud just
migrates top to bottom or into the cores and it takes some patience to
get it all out.

On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 20:25:05 UTC "macgraphics" <macleans@metrocast.net>
wrote:

> I fixed the problem. It was actually a whole lot easier than I had
> imagined. I unhooked both heater hoses (from the engine end) and
> attached a garden hose (with an attachment), ran the water and repeated
> on the other hose. There really was not much to it. I was expecting
> huge globs of stuff to flow out, never really got any; I just waited
> until it looked like it was just clear water flowing through the hoses.
> Hooked everything back up and I had heat. Being a newbie, I was just
> hesitant but it was really extremely easy. Thank you everyone for your
> advice. This forum continues to teach me loads.
>



--
Will Honea


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