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Mike Romain 10-30-2004 09:30 AM

Re: 91 YJ Fuel System Help
 
The ground for the pump is on a bolt that holds the emergency brake
pedal in place. I would be sure that is tight and hooked up.

There have been a mess of pump failures lately because of the e-brake
recall. The 'techs', I won't call them 'mechanics', they aren't, aren't
smart enough to make sure any wire got put back on tight when they swap
the part.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Chris wrote:
>
> 4.0 v6 MPI - Thank to your help on getting the tank down. It did take
> some convincing but it eventually dropped. I replaced the fuel filter
> and put in a shiny new pump. Connected everything back up, but left it
> down to test just in case I screwed something up at it did not blow up.
> There is still no pressure in the fuel rail. I hooked up a fuel
> pressure gauge and am getting some fuel in the line but no registering
> pressure. I am not hearing the pump come on at all. After quadruple
> checking connections and all lines under the vehicle I could find, I
> began thinking electrical. Disconnected the electrical connection to
> the pump and hooked up the DMM to the connector and turned the ignition
> to on, even as far as bring the starter on, but only mV levels are
> showing. Looking at the schematic and reading posts here, I am thinking
> it may be the fuel pump relay. Where do I find this (could not locate
> in the shop book). Any ideas on what else to test or look for. Again, a
> little fuel in the rail and dribbles out when pressing the relief pin,
> no spurt and no pressure registering with a gauge hooked up. Pump is
> making NO sound, even when pulled from the tank and car turned to on
> quickly.
> Thank again. First Jeep, and bought this for some 4x4 fun, and to learn
> how to do this stuff. The help you all provide here is invaluable.


Mike Romain 10-30-2004 09:30 AM

Re: 91 YJ Fuel System Help
 
The ground for the pump is on a bolt that holds the emergency brake
pedal in place. I would be sure that is tight and hooked up.

There have been a mess of pump failures lately because of the e-brake
recall. The 'techs', I won't call them 'mechanics', they aren't, aren't
smart enough to make sure any wire got put back on tight when they swap
the part.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Chris wrote:
>
> 4.0 v6 MPI - Thank to your help on getting the tank down. It did take
> some convincing but it eventually dropped. I replaced the fuel filter
> and put in a shiny new pump. Connected everything back up, but left it
> down to test just in case I screwed something up at it did not blow up.
> There is still no pressure in the fuel rail. I hooked up a fuel
> pressure gauge and am getting some fuel in the line but no registering
> pressure. I am not hearing the pump come on at all. After quadruple
> checking connections and all lines under the vehicle I could find, I
> began thinking electrical. Disconnected the electrical connection to
> the pump and hooked up the DMM to the connector and turned the ignition
> to on, even as far as bring the starter on, but only mV levels are
> showing. Looking at the schematic and reading posts here, I am thinking
> it may be the fuel pump relay. Where do I find this (could not locate
> in the shop book). Any ideas on what else to test or look for. Again, a
> little fuel in the rail and dribbles out when pressing the relief pin,
> no spurt and no pressure registering with a gauge hooked up. Pump is
> making NO sound, even when pulled from the tank and car turned to on
> quickly.
> Thank again. First Jeep, and bought this for some 4x4 fun, and to learn
> how to do this stuff. The help you all provide here is invaluable.


Mike Romain 10-30-2004 09:30 AM

Re: 91 YJ Fuel System Help
 
The ground for the pump is on a bolt that holds the emergency brake
pedal in place. I would be sure that is tight and hooked up.

There have been a mess of pump failures lately because of the e-brake
recall. The 'techs', I won't call them 'mechanics', they aren't, aren't
smart enough to make sure any wire got put back on tight when they swap
the part.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Chris wrote:
>
> 4.0 v6 MPI - Thank to your help on getting the tank down. It did take
> some convincing but it eventually dropped. I replaced the fuel filter
> and put in a shiny new pump. Connected everything back up, but left it
> down to test just in case I screwed something up at it did not blow up.
> There is still no pressure in the fuel rail. I hooked up a fuel
> pressure gauge and am getting some fuel in the line but no registering
> pressure. I am not hearing the pump come on at all. After quadruple
> checking connections and all lines under the vehicle I could find, I
> began thinking electrical. Disconnected the electrical connection to
> the pump and hooked up the DMM to the connector and turned the ignition
> to on, even as far as bring the starter on, but only mV levels are
> showing. Looking at the schematic and reading posts here, I am thinking
> it may be the fuel pump relay. Where do I find this (could not locate
> in the shop book). Any ideas on what else to test or look for. Again, a
> little fuel in the rail and dribbles out when pressing the relief pin,
> no spurt and no pressure registering with a gauge hooked up. Pump is
> making NO sound, even when pulled from the tank and car turned to on
> quickly.
> Thank again. First Jeep, and bought this for some 4x4 fun, and to learn
> how to do this stuff. The help you all provide here is invaluable.


Ufatbasted 10-30-2004 03:14 PM

Re: 91 YJ Fuel System Help
 
Check the fuel pump ground near the e-brake mounting bolt.
I heard there is a wire next to the emergency brake mounting bolt
thats a fuel pump ground. I had starting problems and learned after a
while that if I released the e-brake handle the rig would start. Still
have not found the wire as in my case someone turned the e-brake
handle upside down. When I turned the e-brake handle back so the text
on the handle read right all my starting problems went away. But
prior to that after releasing my e-brake I would hear my pump prime
and the rig would start.

My gas gauge would always peg to full with the key in the start
position if the fuel pump would not come on and would give an accurate
reading when the fuel pump would come on.

James Gemmill <gemmilljim@hotmail,com> wrote in message news:<jm76o01i0svcakgmsp706eq504jjsh6eto@4ax.com>. ..
> On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:33:00 -0700, Chris <chris@borngraphics.com>
> wrote:
>
> >4.0 v6 MPI - Thank to your help on getting the tank down. It did take
> >some convincing but it eventually dropped. I replaced the fuel filter
> >and put in a shiny new pump. Connected everything back up, but left it
> >down to test just in case I screwed something up at it did not blow up.
> >There is still no pressure in the fuel rail. I hooked up a fuel
> >pressure gauge and am getting some fuel in the line but no registering
> >pressure. I am not hearing the pump come on at all. After quadruple
> >checking connections and all lines under the vehicle I could find, I
> >began thinking electrical. Disconnected the electrical connection to
> >the pump and hooked up the DMM to the connector and turned the ignition
> >to on, even as far as bring the starter on, but only mV levels are
> >showing. Looking at the schematic and reading posts here, I am thinking
> >it may be the fuel pump relay. Where do I find this (could not locate
> >in the shop book). Any ideas on what else to test or look for. Again, a
> >little fuel in the rail and dribbles out when pressing the relief pin,
> >no spurt and no pressure registering with a gauge hooked up. Pump is
> >making NO sound, even when pulled from the tank and car turned to on
> >quickly.
> >Thank again. First Jeep, and bought this for some 4x4 fun, and to learn
> >how to do this stuff. The help you all provide here is invaluable.

> Be sure your ground is good.


Ufatbasted 10-30-2004 03:14 PM

Re: 91 YJ Fuel System Help
 
Check the fuel pump ground near the e-brake mounting bolt.
I heard there is a wire next to the emergency brake mounting bolt
thats a fuel pump ground. I had starting problems and learned after a
while that if I released the e-brake handle the rig would start. Still
have not found the wire as in my case someone turned the e-brake
handle upside down. When I turned the e-brake handle back so the text
on the handle read right all my starting problems went away. But
prior to that after releasing my e-brake I would hear my pump prime
and the rig would start.

My gas gauge would always peg to full with the key in the start
position if the fuel pump would not come on and would give an accurate
reading when the fuel pump would come on.

James Gemmill <gemmilljim@hotmail,com> wrote in message news:<jm76o01i0svcakgmsp706eq504jjsh6eto@4ax.com>. ..
> On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:33:00 -0700, Chris <chris@borngraphics.com>
> wrote:
>
> >4.0 v6 MPI - Thank to your help on getting the tank down. It did take
> >some convincing but it eventually dropped. I replaced the fuel filter
> >and put in a shiny new pump. Connected everything back up, but left it
> >down to test just in case I screwed something up at it did not blow up.
> >There is still no pressure in the fuel rail. I hooked up a fuel
> >pressure gauge and am getting some fuel in the line but no registering
> >pressure. I am not hearing the pump come on at all. After quadruple
> >checking connections and all lines under the vehicle I could find, I
> >began thinking electrical. Disconnected the electrical connection to
> >the pump and hooked up the DMM to the connector and turned the ignition
> >to on, even as far as bring the starter on, but only mV levels are
> >showing. Looking at the schematic and reading posts here, I am thinking
> >it may be the fuel pump relay. Where do I find this (could not locate
> >in the shop book). Any ideas on what else to test or look for. Again, a
> >little fuel in the rail and dribbles out when pressing the relief pin,
> >no spurt and no pressure registering with a gauge hooked up. Pump is
> >making NO sound, even when pulled from the tank and car turned to on
> >quickly.
> >Thank again. First Jeep, and bought this for some 4x4 fun, and to learn
> >how to do this stuff. The help you all provide here is invaluable.

> Be sure your ground is good.


Ufatbasted 10-30-2004 03:14 PM

Re: 91 YJ Fuel System Help
 
Check the fuel pump ground near the e-brake mounting bolt.
I heard there is a wire next to the emergency brake mounting bolt
thats a fuel pump ground. I had starting problems and learned after a
while that if I released the e-brake handle the rig would start. Still
have not found the wire as in my case someone turned the e-brake
handle upside down. When I turned the e-brake handle back so the text
on the handle read right all my starting problems went away. But
prior to that after releasing my e-brake I would hear my pump prime
and the rig would start.

My gas gauge would always peg to full with the key in the start
position if the fuel pump would not come on and would give an accurate
reading when the fuel pump would come on.

James Gemmill <gemmilljim@hotmail,com> wrote in message news:<jm76o01i0svcakgmsp706eq504jjsh6eto@4ax.com>. ..
> On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:33:00 -0700, Chris <chris@borngraphics.com>
> wrote:
>
> >4.0 v6 MPI - Thank to your help on getting the tank down. It did take
> >some convincing but it eventually dropped. I replaced the fuel filter
> >and put in a shiny new pump. Connected everything back up, but left it
> >down to test just in case I screwed something up at it did not blow up.
> >There is still no pressure in the fuel rail. I hooked up a fuel
> >pressure gauge and am getting some fuel in the line but no registering
> >pressure. I am not hearing the pump come on at all. After quadruple
> >checking connections and all lines under the vehicle I could find, I
> >began thinking electrical. Disconnected the electrical connection to
> >the pump and hooked up the DMM to the connector and turned the ignition
> >to on, even as far as bring the starter on, but only mV levels are
> >showing. Looking at the schematic and reading posts here, I am thinking
> >it may be the fuel pump relay. Where do I find this (could not locate
> >in the shop book). Any ideas on what else to test or look for. Again, a
> >little fuel in the rail and dribbles out when pressing the relief pin,
> >no spurt and no pressure registering with a gauge hooked up. Pump is
> >making NO sound, even when pulled from the tank and car turned to on
> >quickly.
> >Thank again. First Jeep, and bought this for some 4x4 fun, and to learn
> >how to do this stuff. The help you all provide here is invaluable.

> Be sure your ground is good.



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