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Melodious Thunk 09-02-2006 03:34 PM

Re: 91 Cherokee calipers
 
In article <44f9d8d1$0$15185$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.com >,
"Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote:

> I'm not sure, but Torx bolts are a favorite of Jeep. This is a recessed
> thing that you stick the wrench into, correct? If you can get a good look
> at it, and it is a Torx, it will be star-shaped.
>
> Earle


Heh, if I could get a look at it, my head would be about 4 inches! Yes,
its recessed and covered with a rubber dust cap.

I'll buy a set of Torx drivers & see if one'll work. Thanks.

>
> "Melodious Thunk" <bill_gets_stuff@hotmail.c0m> wrote in message
> news:bill_gets_stuff-3464EF.11010302092006@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> > In article <44f9c060$0$15226$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.com >,
> > "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Probably a Torx bit. Sears Craftsman, NAPA, Autozone, etc. will have

> them.
> > >
> > > Earle

> >
> > Thanks, do you know for sure? And what size? I see that there's other
> > Torx bolts on the sway bar etc. For the calipers, the bolt heads are
> > obscured by little rubber dirt protectors... that clearly don't work,
> > since the bolt heads were well-packed with dried mud. I think I got the
> > dirt out, but can't see 'em to be sure or even to figure out what kind
> > of heads they are!
> >
> > Apparently, per a websearch, the Cherokee Sport used a completely
> > different caliper, mounted w/two 12mm bolts. So I'm asking about the '91
> > Cherokee Limited 4WD.
> >
> > >
> > > "Melodious Thunk" <bill_gets_stuff@hotmail.c0m> wrote in message
> > > news:bill_gets_stuff-30B36F.10231702092006@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> > > > What tool do I use to get the front calipers off? Hex wrenches don't
> > > > seem to fit & I've never done Cherokee brakes before. Thanks.


Melodious Thunk 09-02-2006 03:34 PM

Re: 91 Cherokee calipers
 
In article <44f9d8d1$0$15185$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.com >,
"Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote:

> I'm not sure, but Torx bolts are a favorite of Jeep. This is a recessed
> thing that you stick the wrench into, correct? If you can get a good look
> at it, and it is a Torx, it will be star-shaped.
>
> Earle


Heh, if I could get a look at it, my head would be about 4 inches! Yes,
its recessed and covered with a rubber dust cap.

I'll buy a set of Torx drivers & see if one'll work. Thanks.

>
> "Melodious Thunk" <bill_gets_stuff@hotmail.c0m> wrote in message
> news:bill_gets_stuff-3464EF.11010302092006@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> > In article <44f9c060$0$15226$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.com >,
> > "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Probably a Torx bit. Sears Craftsman, NAPA, Autozone, etc. will have

> them.
> > >
> > > Earle

> >
> > Thanks, do you know for sure? And what size? I see that there's other
> > Torx bolts on the sway bar etc. For the calipers, the bolt heads are
> > obscured by little rubber dirt protectors... that clearly don't work,
> > since the bolt heads were well-packed with dried mud. I think I got the
> > dirt out, but can't see 'em to be sure or even to figure out what kind
> > of heads they are!
> >
> > Apparently, per a websearch, the Cherokee Sport used a completely
> > different caliper, mounted w/two 12mm bolts. So I'm asking about the '91
> > Cherokee Limited 4WD.
> >
> > >
> > > "Melodious Thunk" <bill_gets_stuff@hotmail.c0m> wrote in message
> > > news:bill_gets_stuff-30B36F.10231702092006@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> > > > What tool do I use to get the front calipers off? Hex wrenches don't
> > > > seem to fit & I've never done Cherokee brakes before. Thanks.


Melodious Thunk 09-02-2006 03:34 PM

Re: 91 Cherokee calipers
 
In article <44f9d8d1$0$15185$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.com >,
"Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote:

> I'm not sure, but Torx bolts are a favorite of Jeep. This is a recessed
> thing that you stick the wrench into, correct? If you can get a good look
> at it, and it is a Torx, it will be star-shaped.
>
> Earle


Heh, if I could get a look at it, my head would be about 4 inches! Yes,
its recessed and covered with a rubber dust cap.

I'll buy a set of Torx drivers & see if one'll work. Thanks.

>
> "Melodious Thunk" <bill_gets_stuff@hotmail.c0m> wrote in message
> news:bill_gets_stuff-3464EF.11010302092006@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> > In article <44f9c060$0$15226$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.com >,
> > "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Probably a Torx bit. Sears Craftsman, NAPA, Autozone, etc. will have

> them.
> > >
> > > Earle

> >
> > Thanks, do you know for sure? And what size? I see that there's other
> > Torx bolts on the sway bar etc. For the calipers, the bolt heads are
> > obscured by little rubber dirt protectors... that clearly don't work,
> > since the bolt heads were well-packed with dried mud. I think I got the
> > dirt out, but can't see 'em to be sure or even to figure out what kind
> > of heads they are!
> >
> > Apparently, per a websearch, the Cherokee Sport used a completely
> > different caliper, mounted w/two 12mm bolts. So I'm asking about the '91
> > Cherokee Limited 4WD.
> >
> > >
> > > "Melodious Thunk" <bill_gets_stuff@hotmail.c0m> wrote in message
> > > news:bill_gets_stuff-30B36F.10231702092006@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> > > > What tool do I use to get the front calipers off? Hex wrenches don't
> > > > seem to fit & I've never done Cherokee brakes before. Thanks.


Carl 09-02-2006 06:34 PM

Re: 91 Cherokee calipers
 
Be sure you get the kind that work like sockets. You won't be able to get
enough power with a screwdriver-type. I'm not familiar with that specific
bolt, but it's probably somewhere between t-25 and t-35. Let us know what it
is.

Carl


"Melodious Thunk" <bill_gets_stuff@hotmail.c0m> wrote in message
news:bill_gets_stuff-BE384F.12342902092006@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> In article <44f9d8d1$0$15185$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.com >,
> "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure, but Torx bolts are a favorite of Jeep. This is a recessed
>> thing that you stick the wrench into, correct? If you can get a good
>> look
>> at it, and it is a Torx, it will be star-shaped.
>>
>> Earle

>
> Heh, if I could get a look at it, my head would be about 4 inches! Yes,
> its recessed and covered with a rubber dust cap.
>
> I'll buy a set of Torx drivers & see if one'll work. Thanks.
>
>>
>> "Melodious Thunk" <bill_gets_stuff@hotmail.c0m> wrote in message
>> news:bill_gets_stuff-3464EF.11010302092006@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>> > In article <44f9c060$0$15226$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.com >,
>> > "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Probably a Torx bit. Sears Craftsman, NAPA, Autozone, etc. will have

>> them.
>> > >
>> > > Earle
>> >
>> > Thanks, do you know for sure? And what size? I see that there's other
>> > Torx bolts on the sway bar etc. For the calipers, the bolt heads are
>> > obscured by little rubber dirt protectors... that clearly don't work,
>> > since the bolt heads were well-packed with dried mud. I think I got the
>> > dirt out, but can't see 'em to be sure or even to figure out what kind
>> > of heads they are!
>> >
>> > Apparently, per a websearch, the Cherokee Sport used a completely
>> > different caliper, mounted w/two 12mm bolts. So I'm asking about the
>> > '91
>> > Cherokee Limited 4WD.
>> >
>> > >
>> > > "Melodious Thunk" <bill_gets_stuff@hotmail.c0m> wrote in message
>> > > news:bill_gets_stuff-30B36F.10231702092006@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>> > > > What tool do I use to get the front calipers off? Hex wrenches
>> > > > don't
>> > > > seem to fit & I've never done Cherokee brakes before. Thanks.




Carl 09-02-2006 06:34 PM

Re: 91 Cherokee calipers
 
Be sure you get the kind that work like sockets. You won't be able to get
enough power with a screwdriver-type. I'm not familiar with that specific
bolt, but it's probably somewhere between t-25 and t-35. Let us know what it
is.

Carl


"Melodious Thunk" <bill_gets_stuff@hotmail.c0m> wrote in message
news:bill_gets_stuff-BE384F.12342902092006@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> In article <44f9d8d1$0$15185$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.com >,
> "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure, but Torx bolts are a favorite of Jeep. This is a recessed
>> thing that you stick the wrench into, correct? If you can get a good
>> look
>> at it, and it is a Torx, it will be star-shaped.
>>
>> Earle

>
> Heh, if I could get a look at it, my head would be about 4 inches! Yes,
> its recessed and covered with a rubber dust cap.
>
> I'll buy a set of Torx drivers & see if one'll work. Thanks.
>
>>
>> "Melodious Thunk" <bill_gets_stuff@hotmail.c0m> wrote in message
>> news:bill_gets_stuff-3464EF.11010302092006@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>> > In article <44f9c060$0$15226$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.com >,
>> > "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Probably a Torx bit. Sears Craftsman, NAPA, Autozone, etc. will have

>> them.
>> > >
>> > > Earle
>> >
>> > Thanks, do you know for sure? And what size? I see that there's other
>> > Torx bolts on the sway bar etc. For the calipers, the bolt heads are
>> > obscured by little rubber dirt protectors... that clearly don't work,
>> > since the bolt heads were well-packed with dried mud. I think I got the
>> > dirt out, but can't see 'em to be sure or even to figure out what kind
>> > of heads they are!
>> >
>> > Apparently, per a websearch, the Cherokee Sport used a completely
>> > different caliper, mounted w/two 12mm bolts. So I'm asking about the
>> > '91
>> > Cherokee Limited 4WD.
>> >
>> > >
>> > > "Melodious Thunk" <bill_gets_stuff@hotmail.c0m> wrote in message
>> > > news:bill_gets_stuff-30B36F.10231702092006@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>> > > > What tool do I use to get the front calipers off? Hex wrenches
>> > > > don't
>> > > > seem to fit & I've never done Cherokee brakes before. Thanks.




Carl 09-02-2006 06:34 PM

Re: 91 Cherokee calipers
 
Be sure you get the kind that work like sockets. You won't be able to get
enough power with a screwdriver-type. I'm not familiar with that specific
bolt, but it's probably somewhere between t-25 and t-35. Let us know what it
is.

Carl


"Melodious Thunk" <bill_gets_stuff@hotmail.c0m> wrote in message
news:bill_gets_stuff-BE384F.12342902092006@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> In article <44f9d8d1$0$15185$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.com >,
> "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure, but Torx bolts are a favorite of Jeep. This is a recessed
>> thing that you stick the wrench into, correct? If you can get a good
>> look
>> at it, and it is a Torx, it will be star-shaped.
>>
>> Earle

>
> Heh, if I could get a look at it, my head would be about 4 inches! Yes,
> its recessed and covered with a rubber dust cap.
>
> I'll buy a set of Torx drivers & see if one'll work. Thanks.
>
>>
>> "Melodious Thunk" <bill_gets_stuff@hotmail.c0m> wrote in message
>> news:bill_gets_stuff-3464EF.11010302092006@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>> > In article <44f9c060$0$15226$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.com >,
>> > "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Probably a Torx bit. Sears Craftsman, NAPA, Autozone, etc. will have

>> them.
>> > >
>> > > Earle
>> >
>> > Thanks, do you know for sure? And what size? I see that there's other
>> > Torx bolts on the sway bar etc. For the calipers, the bolt heads are
>> > obscured by little rubber dirt protectors... that clearly don't work,
>> > since the bolt heads were well-packed with dried mud. I think I got the
>> > dirt out, but can't see 'em to be sure or even to figure out what kind
>> > of heads they are!
>> >
>> > Apparently, per a websearch, the Cherokee Sport used a completely
>> > different caliper, mounted w/two 12mm bolts. So I'm asking about the
>> > '91
>> > Cherokee Limited 4WD.
>> >
>> > >
>> > > "Melodious Thunk" <bill_gets_stuff@hotmail.c0m> wrote in message
>> > > news:bill_gets_stuff-30B36F.10231702092006@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>> > > > What tool do I use to get the front calipers off? Hex wrenches
>> > > > don't
>> > > > seem to fit & I've never done Cherokee brakes before. Thanks.




bllsht 09-02-2006 10:11 PM

Re: 91 Cherokee calipers
 
In message <bill_gets_stuff-BE384F.12342902092006@comcast.dca.giganews.com>,
"Melodious Thunk" wrote:

>In article <44f9d8d1$0$15185$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.com >,
> "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure, but Torx bolts are a favorite of Jeep. This is a recessed
>> thing that you stick the wrench into, correct? If you can get a good look
>> at it, and it is a Torx, it will be star-shaped.
>>
>> Earle

>
>Heh, if I could get a look at it, my head would be about 4 inches! Yes,
>its recessed and covered with a rubber dust cap.


You don't own a mirror?


>
>I'll buy a set of Torx drivers & see if one'll work. Thanks.
>
>>
>> "Melodious Thunk" <bill_gets_stuff@hotmail.c0m> wrote in message
>> news:bill_gets_stuff-3464EF.11010302092006@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>> > In article <44f9c060$0$15226$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.com >,
>> > "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Probably a Torx bit. Sears Craftsman, NAPA, Autozone, etc. will have

>> them.
>> > >
>> > > Earle
>> >
>> > Thanks, do you know for sure? And what size? I see that there's other
>> > Torx bolts on the sway bar etc. For the calipers, the bolt heads are
>> > obscured by little rubber dirt protectors... that clearly don't work,
>> > since the bolt heads were well-packed with dried mud. I think I got the
>> > dirt out, but can't see 'em to be sure or even to figure out what kind
>> > of heads they are!
>> >
>> > Apparently, per a websearch, the Cherokee Sport used a completely
>> > different caliper, mounted w/two 12mm bolts. So I'm asking about the '91
>> > Cherokee Limited 4WD.
>> >
>> > >
>> > > "Melodious Thunk" <bill_gets_stuff@hotmail.c0m> wrote in message
>> > > news:bill_gets_stuff-30B36F.10231702092006@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>> > > > What tool do I use to get the front calipers off? Hex wrenches don't
>> > > > seem to fit & I've never done Cherokee brakes before. Thanks.


bllsht 09-02-2006 10:11 PM

Re: 91 Cherokee calipers
 
In message <bill_gets_stuff-BE384F.12342902092006@comcast.dca.giganews.com>,
"Melodious Thunk" wrote:

>In article <44f9d8d1$0$15185$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.com >,
> "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure, but Torx bolts are a favorite of Jeep. This is a recessed
>> thing that you stick the wrench into, correct? If you can get a good look
>> at it, and it is a Torx, it will be star-shaped.
>>
>> Earle

>
>Heh, if I could get a look at it, my head would be about 4 inches! Yes,
>its recessed and covered with a rubber dust cap.


You don't own a mirror?


>
>I'll buy a set of Torx drivers & see if one'll work. Thanks.
>
>>
>> "Melodious Thunk" <bill_gets_stuff@hotmail.c0m> wrote in message
>> news:bill_gets_stuff-3464EF.11010302092006@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>> > In article <44f9c060$0$15226$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.com >,
>> > "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Probably a Torx bit. Sears Craftsman, NAPA, Autozone, etc. will have

>> them.
>> > >
>> > > Earle
>> >
>> > Thanks, do you know for sure? And what size? I see that there's other
>> > Torx bolts on the sway bar etc. For the calipers, the bolt heads are
>> > obscured by little rubber dirt protectors... that clearly don't work,
>> > since the bolt heads were well-packed with dried mud. I think I got the
>> > dirt out, but can't see 'em to be sure or even to figure out what kind
>> > of heads they are!
>> >
>> > Apparently, per a websearch, the Cherokee Sport used a completely
>> > different caliper, mounted w/two 12mm bolts. So I'm asking about the '91
>> > Cherokee Limited 4WD.
>> >
>> > >
>> > > "Melodious Thunk" <bill_gets_stuff@hotmail.c0m> wrote in message
>> > > news:bill_gets_stuff-30B36F.10231702092006@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>> > > > What tool do I use to get the front calipers off? Hex wrenches don't
>> > > > seem to fit & I've never done Cherokee brakes before. Thanks.


bllsht 09-02-2006 10:11 PM

Re: 91 Cherokee calipers
 
In message <bill_gets_stuff-BE384F.12342902092006@comcast.dca.giganews.com>,
"Melodious Thunk" wrote:

>In article <44f9d8d1$0$15185$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.com >,
> "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure, but Torx bolts are a favorite of Jeep. This is a recessed
>> thing that you stick the wrench into, correct? If you can get a good look
>> at it, and it is a Torx, it will be star-shaped.
>>
>> Earle

>
>Heh, if I could get a look at it, my head would be about 4 inches! Yes,
>its recessed and covered with a rubber dust cap.


You don't own a mirror?


>
>I'll buy a set of Torx drivers & see if one'll work. Thanks.
>
>>
>> "Melodious Thunk" <bill_gets_stuff@hotmail.c0m> wrote in message
>> news:bill_gets_stuff-3464EF.11010302092006@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>> > In article <44f9c060$0$15226$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.com >,
>> > "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Probably a Torx bit. Sears Craftsman, NAPA, Autozone, etc. will have

>> them.
>> > >
>> > > Earle
>> >
>> > Thanks, do you know for sure? And what size? I see that there's other
>> > Torx bolts on the sway bar etc. For the calipers, the bolt heads are
>> > obscured by little rubber dirt protectors... that clearly don't work,
>> > since the bolt heads were well-packed with dried mud. I think I got the
>> > dirt out, but can't see 'em to be sure or even to figure out what kind
>> > of heads they are!
>> >
>> > Apparently, per a websearch, the Cherokee Sport used a completely
>> > different caliper, mounted w/two 12mm bolts. So I'm asking about the '91
>> > Cherokee Limited 4WD.
>> >
>> > >
>> > > "Melodious Thunk" <bill_gets_stuff@hotmail.c0m> wrote in message
>> > > news:bill_gets_stuff-30B36F.10231702092006@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>> > > > What tool do I use to get the front calipers off? Hex wrenches don't
>> > > > seem to fit & I've never done Cherokee brakes before. Thanks.


Earle Horton 09-02-2006 11:41 PM

Re: 91 Cherokee calipers
 
"bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
news:bbekf2dkvdaabf79em3hqcsuj2grnqo0ho@4ax.com...
> In message

<bill_gets_stuff-BE384F.12342902092006@comcast.dca.giganews.com>,
> "Melodious Thunk" wrote:
>
> >In article <44f9d8d1$0$15185$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.com >,
> > "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I'm not sure, but Torx bolts are a favorite of Jeep. This is a
> >> recessed thing that you stick the wrench into, correct? If you
> >> can get a good look at it, and it is a Torx, it will be star-shaped.
> >>
> >> Earle

> >
> >Heh, if I could get a look at it, my head would be about 4 inches! Yes,
> >its recessed and covered with a rubber dust cap.

>
> You don't own a mirror?


Apparently not. I happened to replace the pads and rotors on my 1995
Wrangler today. 84,000 miles and hardly any wear at all, but I happened to
find it a good time to replace them. The Haynes picture shows Allen head
caliper mounting pins prior to 1990, and twelve point cap screws afterwards.
Haynes says to use a twelve point box end wrench on the later pins, but it
doesn't say which size. My 1995 has half inch head cap screws at this
location!

Another way to get a better look at things is to put the vehicle frame on
jack stands, remove the tires, and lower the axle you want to work on.

Earle
>
>
> >
> >I'll buy a set of Torx drivers & see if one'll work. Thanks.
> >
> >>
> >> "Melodious Thunk" <bill_gets_stuff@hotmail.c0m> wrote in message
> >> news:bill_gets_stuff-3464EF.11010302092006@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> >> > In article <44f9c060$0$15226$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.com >,
> >> > "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Probably a Torx bit. Sears Craftsman, NAPA, Autozone, etc. will

have
> >> them.
> >> > >
> >> > > Earle
> >> >
> >> > Thanks, do you know for sure? And what size? I see that there's other
> >> > Torx bolts on the sway bar etc. For the calipers, the bolt heads are
> >> > obscured by little rubber dirt protectors... that clearly don't work,
> >> > since the bolt heads were well-packed with dried mud. I think I got

the
> >> > dirt out, but can't see 'em to be sure or even to figure out what

kind
> >> > of heads they are!
> >> >
> >> > Apparently, per a websearch, the Cherokee Sport used a completely
> >> > different caliper, mounted w/two 12mm bolts. So I'm asking about the

'91
> >> > Cherokee Limited 4WD.
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > > "Melodious Thunk" <bill_gets_stuff@hotmail.c0m> wrote in message
> >> > >

news:bill_gets_stuff-30B36F.10231702092006@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> >> > > > What tool do I use to get the front calipers off? Hex wrenches

don't
> >> > > > seem to fit & I've never done Cherokee brakes before. Thanks.






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