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Dirty Ditch Dawg 03-22-2005 09:45 PM

90YJ tired old dawg,,
 
Well, i pulled the starter,after this morning of nuthing but clicks,
and only one start, had it tested, its bad,
BUT, i had it tested 4 weeks ago, it was fine,
so now my question is this,

yesterday when all this started it would turn the motor over,
but not start the motor,
now its toast,
,
can any electrical/computer, problem cause an alternator,
and now my starter to crap out,
can i have a major wiring/computer- problem??
or is the dam thing just gettin tired?
,
thanks,
johnp
dam things getting on the diagnostic computer first of the month,
grrrrrrrrrr,,,,,


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 03-22-2005 10:28 PM

Re: 90YJ tired old dawg,,
 
With your hard starting, probably you ran the starter over ten
seconds and it got hot and threw the solder, and like a light bulb,
burnt out.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dirty Ditch Dawg wrote:
>
> Well, i pulled the starter,after this morning of nuthing but clicks,
> and only one start, had it tested, its bad,
> BUT, i had it tested 4 weeks ago, it was fine,
> so now my question is this,
>
> yesterday when all this started it would turn the motor over,
> but not start the motor,
> now its toast,
> ,
> can any electrical/computer, problem cause an alternator,
> and now my starter to crap out,
> can i have a major wiring/computer- problem??
> or is the dam thing just gettin tired?
> ,
> thanks,
> johnp
> dam things getting on the diagnostic computer first of the month,
> grrrrrrrrrr,,,,,


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 03-22-2005 10:28 PM

Re: 90YJ tired old dawg,,
 
With your hard starting, probably you ran the starter over ten
seconds and it got hot and threw the solder, and like a light bulb,
burnt out.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dirty Ditch Dawg wrote:
>
> Well, i pulled the starter,after this morning of nuthing but clicks,
> and only one start, had it tested, its bad,
> BUT, i had it tested 4 weeks ago, it was fine,
> so now my question is this,
>
> yesterday when all this started it would turn the motor over,
> but not start the motor,
> now its toast,
> ,
> can any electrical/computer, problem cause an alternator,
> and now my starter to crap out,
> can i have a major wiring/computer- problem??
> or is the dam thing just gettin tired?
> ,
> thanks,
> johnp
> dam things getting on the diagnostic computer first of the month,
> grrrrrrrrrr,,,,,


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 03-22-2005 10:28 PM

Re: 90YJ tired old dawg,,
 
With your hard starting, probably you ran the starter over ten
seconds and it got hot and threw the solder, and like a light bulb,
burnt out.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dirty Ditch Dawg wrote:
>
> Well, i pulled the starter,after this morning of nuthing but clicks,
> and only one start, had it tested, its bad,
> BUT, i had it tested 4 weeks ago, it was fine,
> so now my question is this,
>
> yesterday when all this started it would turn the motor over,
> but not start the motor,
> now its toast,
> ,
> can any electrical/computer, problem cause an alternator,
> and now my starter to crap out,
> can i have a major wiring/computer- problem??
> or is the dam thing just gettin tired?
> ,
> thanks,
> johnp
> dam things getting on the diagnostic computer first of the month,
> grrrrrrrrrr,,,,,


Mike Romain 03-23-2005 09:03 AM

Re: 90YJ tired old dawg,,
 
You have a bad electrical connection where the negative battery cable
bolts to the engine block.

This is the cause of the clicking and it was/is part of the cause for
the new alternator not turning on and is likely the cause of the crappy
mileage and the computer forgetting how to idle. They 'all' tie
directly to that bad connection.

The connection will arc eventually for a short time and allow a start
and things like the alternator and computer to run but who know for the
next start.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Dirty Ditch Dawg wrote:
>
> Well, i pulled the starter,after this morning of nuthing but clicks,
> and only one start, had it tested, its bad,
> BUT, i had it tested 4 weeks ago, it was fine,
> so now my question is this,
>
> yesterday when all this started it would turn the motor over,
> but not start the motor,
> now its toast,
> ,
> can any electrical/computer, problem cause an alternator,
> and now my starter to crap out,
> can i have a major wiring/computer- problem??
> or is the dam thing just gettin tired?
> ,
> thanks,
> johnp
> dam things getting on the diagnostic computer first of the month,
> grrrrrrrrrr,,,,,


Mike Romain 03-23-2005 09:03 AM

Re: 90YJ tired old dawg,,
 
You have a bad electrical connection where the negative battery cable
bolts to the engine block.

This is the cause of the clicking and it was/is part of the cause for
the new alternator not turning on and is likely the cause of the crappy
mileage and the computer forgetting how to idle. They 'all' tie
directly to that bad connection.

The connection will arc eventually for a short time and allow a start
and things like the alternator and computer to run but who know for the
next start.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Dirty Ditch Dawg wrote:
>
> Well, i pulled the starter,after this morning of nuthing but clicks,
> and only one start, had it tested, its bad,
> BUT, i had it tested 4 weeks ago, it was fine,
> so now my question is this,
>
> yesterday when all this started it would turn the motor over,
> but not start the motor,
> now its toast,
> ,
> can any electrical/computer, problem cause an alternator,
> and now my starter to crap out,
> can i have a major wiring/computer- problem??
> or is the dam thing just gettin tired?
> ,
> thanks,
> johnp
> dam things getting on the diagnostic computer first of the month,
> grrrrrrrrrr,,,,,


Mike Romain 03-23-2005 09:03 AM

Re: 90YJ tired old dawg,,
 
You have a bad electrical connection where the negative battery cable
bolts to the engine block.

This is the cause of the clicking and it was/is part of the cause for
the new alternator not turning on and is likely the cause of the crappy
mileage and the computer forgetting how to idle. They 'all' tie
directly to that bad connection.

The connection will arc eventually for a short time and allow a start
and things like the alternator and computer to run but who know for the
next start.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Dirty Ditch Dawg wrote:
>
> Well, i pulled the starter,after this morning of nuthing but clicks,
> and only one start, had it tested, its bad,
> BUT, i had it tested 4 weeks ago, it was fine,
> so now my question is this,
>
> yesterday when all this started it would turn the motor over,
> but not start the motor,
> now its toast,
> ,
> can any electrical/computer, problem cause an alternator,
> and now my starter to crap out,
> can i have a major wiring/computer- problem??
> or is the dam thing just gettin tired?
> ,
> thanks,
> johnp
> dam things getting on the diagnostic computer first of the month,
> grrrrrrrrrr,,,,,


Dirty Ditch Dawg 03-23-2005 07:48 PM

Re: 90YJ tired old dawg,,
 
Mike you and Bill are right,
bad termanal, over tightened the bolt connecting the cable, when i did
the alternator,
two weeks ago, pulled it through the lead,
,
then as bill said i kept at the starter, and toasted it,
,
new termanals, new used-starter,,
were running,
,
johnp
THANKS again


Dirty Ditch Dawg 03-23-2005 07:48 PM

Re: 90YJ tired old dawg,,
 
Mike you and Bill are right,
bad termanal, over tightened the bolt connecting the cable, when i did
the alternator,
two weeks ago, pulled it through the lead,
,
then as bill said i kept at the starter, and toasted it,
,
new termanals, new used-starter,,
were running,
,
johnp
THANKS again


Dirty Ditch Dawg 03-23-2005 07:48 PM

Re: 90YJ tired old dawg,,
 
Mike you and Bill are right,
bad termanal, over tightened the bolt connecting the cable, when i did
the alternator,
two weeks ago, pulled it through the lead,
,
then as bill said i kept at the starter, and toasted it,
,
new termanals, new used-starter,,
were running,
,
johnp
THANKS again



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