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scopenutt@yahoo.com 01-03-2005 11:39 AM

90YJ SNow-Driving
 
looking for advice, when driving on snow, on pavement,,,mnt.-passes
ect.
are cables better than chains,
do i want cables/chains, for all four tires?
thanks,
johnp


MudPuppy76 01-03-2005 07:23 PM

Re: 90YJ SNow-Driving
 
scopenutt@yahoo.com wrote:
> looking for advice, when driving on snow, on pavement,,,mnt.-passes
> ect.
> are cables better than chains,
> do i want cables/chains, for all four tires?
> thanks,
> johnp
>

i think that with either of them, you can't go
over 20mph. i have studded snows on my 93 YJ and
it's practically unstoppable.

--
Ben Jerew
ASE Master Technician
New Country Lexus of Latham, NY
Amateur Off-Roader

MudPuppy76 01-03-2005 07:23 PM

Re: 90YJ SNow-Driving
 
scopenutt@yahoo.com wrote:
> looking for advice, when driving on snow, on pavement,,,mnt.-passes
> ect.
> are cables better than chains,
> do i want cables/chains, for all four tires?
> thanks,
> johnp
>

i think that with either of them, you can't go
over 20mph. i have studded snows on my 93 YJ and
it's practically unstoppable.

--
Ben Jerew
ASE Master Technician
New Country Lexus of Latham, NY
Amateur Off-Roader

MudPuppy76 01-03-2005 07:23 PM

Re: 90YJ SNow-Driving
 
scopenutt@yahoo.com wrote:
> looking for advice, when driving on snow, on pavement,,,mnt.-passes
> ect.
> are cables better than chains,
> do i want cables/chains, for all four tires?
> thanks,
> johnp
>

i think that with either of them, you can't go
over 20mph. i have studded snows on my 93 YJ and
it's practically unstoppable.

--
Ben Jerew
ASE Master Technician
New Country Lexus of Latham, NY
Amateur Off-Roader

Lon 01-03-2005 10:01 PM

Re: 90YJ SNow-Driving
 
MudPuppy76 <"<moc.rr.pacyn"@"pupralop"> proclaimed:

> scopenutt@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> looking for advice, when driving on snow, on pavement,,,mnt.-passes
>> ect.
>> are cables better than chains,
>> do i want cables/chains, for all four tires?
>> thanks,
>> johnp
>>

> i think that with either of them, you can't go over 20mph. i have
> studded snows on my 93 YJ and it's practically unstoppable.
>

A good set of cable chains properly tightened will allow over 20mph
with considerably less jaw rattling than normal chains. Not that it
is particularly a good idea to be doing much over 20 if the road is
bad enough to need chains on a 4x4. Only thing I hate about studs
is that you can't quickly pop them in when you need them, then
remove them on the dry stuff.

Lon 01-03-2005 10:01 PM

Re: 90YJ SNow-Driving
 
MudPuppy76 <"<moc.rr.pacyn"@"pupralop"> proclaimed:

> scopenutt@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> looking for advice, when driving on snow, on pavement,,,mnt.-passes
>> ect.
>> are cables better than chains,
>> do i want cables/chains, for all four tires?
>> thanks,
>> johnp
>>

> i think that with either of them, you can't go over 20mph. i have
> studded snows on my 93 YJ and it's practically unstoppable.
>

A good set of cable chains properly tightened will allow over 20mph
with considerably less jaw rattling than normal chains. Not that it
is particularly a good idea to be doing much over 20 if the road is
bad enough to need chains on a 4x4. Only thing I hate about studs
is that you can't quickly pop them in when you need them, then
remove them on the dry stuff.

Lon 01-03-2005 10:01 PM

Re: 90YJ SNow-Driving
 
MudPuppy76 <"<moc.rr.pacyn"@"pupralop"> proclaimed:

> scopenutt@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> looking for advice, when driving on snow, on pavement,,,mnt.-passes
>> ect.
>> are cables better than chains,
>> do i want cables/chains, for all four tires?
>> thanks,
>> johnp
>>

> i think that with either of them, you can't go over 20mph. i have
> studded snows on my 93 YJ and it's practically unstoppable.
>

A good set of cable chains properly tightened will allow over 20mph
with considerably less jaw rattling than normal chains. Not that it
is particularly a good idea to be doing much over 20 if the road is
bad enough to need chains on a 4x4. Only thing I hate about studs
is that you can't quickly pop them in when you need them, then
remove them on the dry stuff.

MudPuppy76 01-03-2005 10:14 PM

Re: 90YJ SNow-Driving
 
Lon wrote:

> MudPuppy76 <"<moc.rr.pacyn"@"pupralop"> proclaimed:
>
>> scopenutt@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>> looking for advice, when driving on snow, on pavement,,,mnt.-passes
>>> ect.
>>> are cables better than chains,
>>> do i want cables/chains, for all four tires?
>>> thanks,
>>> johnp
>>>

>> i think that with either of them, you can't go over 20mph. i have
>> studded snows on my 93 YJ and it's practically unstoppable.
>>

> A good set of cable chains properly tightened will allow over 20mph
> with considerably less jaw rattling than normal chains. Not that it
> is particularly a good idea to be doing much over 20 if the road is
> bad enough to need chains on a 4x4. Only thing I hate about studs
> is that you can't quickly pop them in when you need them, then
> remove them on the dry stuff.

well, studs are noisier to be sure, but then, i
only run them in the winter months. this year in
upstate NY was pretty stupid idea (no snow, WTF?)
but in the summer i run BFG Mud-Terrains, and
they're a bit noisier than the studs.

any particular reason you wouldn't want to run
studs on dry pavement? keep in mind i'm not
familiar with driving out west, if that makes a
difference.

--
Ben Jerew
ASE Master Technician
New Country Lexus of Latham, NY
Amateur Off-Roader

MudPuppy76 01-03-2005 10:14 PM

Re: 90YJ SNow-Driving
 
Lon wrote:

> MudPuppy76 <"<moc.rr.pacyn"@"pupralop"> proclaimed:
>
>> scopenutt@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>> looking for advice, when driving on snow, on pavement,,,mnt.-passes
>>> ect.
>>> are cables better than chains,
>>> do i want cables/chains, for all four tires?
>>> thanks,
>>> johnp
>>>

>> i think that with either of them, you can't go over 20mph. i have
>> studded snows on my 93 YJ and it's practically unstoppable.
>>

> A good set of cable chains properly tightened will allow over 20mph
> with considerably less jaw rattling than normal chains. Not that it
> is particularly a good idea to be doing much over 20 if the road is
> bad enough to need chains on a 4x4. Only thing I hate about studs
> is that you can't quickly pop them in when you need them, then
> remove them on the dry stuff.

well, studs are noisier to be sure, but then, i
only run them in the winter months. this year in
upstate NY was pretty stupid idea (no snow, WTF?)
but in the summer i run BFG Mud-Terrains, and
they're a bit noisier than the studs.

any particular reason you wouldn't want to run
studs on dry pavement? keep in mind i'm not
familiar with driving out west, if that makes a
difference.

--
Ben Jerew
ASE Master Technician
New Country Lexus of Latham, NY
Amateur Off-Roader

MudPuppy76 01-03-2005 10:14 PM

Re: 90YJ SNow-Driving
 
Lon wrote:

> MudPuppy76 <"<moc.rr.pacyn"@"pupralop"> proclaimed:
>
>> scopenutt@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>> looking for advice, when driving on snow, on pavement,,,mnt.-passes
>>> ect.
>>> are cables better than chains,
>>> do i want cables/chains, for all four tires?
>>> thanks,
>>> johnp
>>>

>> i think that with either of them, you can't go over 20mph. i have
>> studded snows on my 93 YJ and it's practically unstoppable.
>>

> A good set of cable chains properly tightened will allow over 20mph
> with considerably less jaw rattling than normal chains. Not that it
> is particularly a good idea to be doing much over 20 if the road is
> bad enough to need chains on a 4x4. Only thing I hate about studs
> is that you can't quickly pop them in when you need them, then
> remove them on the dry stuff.

well, studs are noisier to be sure, but then, i
only run them in the winter months. this year in
upstate NY was pretty stupid idea (no snow, WTF?)
but in the summer i run BFG Mud-Terrains, and
they're a bit noisier than the studs.

any particular reason you wouldn't want to run
studs on dry pavement? keep in mind i'm not
familiar with driving out west, if that makes a
difference.

--
Ben Jerew
ASE Master Technician
New Country Lexus of Latham, NY
Amateur Off-Roader


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