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Troy 07-07-2006 06:30 PM

90 XJ cranking issue
 
Haven't sold that darn thing yet, but I drive it around and sometimes after
I drive for 30 mins. or so then go back to crank the thing up again an hour
later it doesn't want to start, just turns over. I usually turn the key
forward in the ignition for a few seconds, then back and turn it forward
again and try cranking more. It eventually will start after a few tries of
this.

If its the fuel pump, do I have to drop the rear gastank to get to it? The
thing is it's from New York and the bottom totally rusted out. I'd have a
fit trying to get all that stuff unbolted and most likely something is gonna
break I'm sure.

Troy



Mike Romain 07-07-2006 06:49 PM

Re: 90 XJ cranking issue
 
I would use a spray contact cleaner on the TPS and CPS connections.
That can do it wonders... Even WD40 will work, but a real contact
cleaner is best.

The CPS is located on the top of the drivers side bell housing and the
plug on mine is just above the manifold where heat affects it.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Troy wrote:
>
> Haven't sold that darn thing yet, but I drive it around and sometimes after
> I drive for 30 mins. or so then go back to crank the thing up again an hour
> later it doesn't want to start, just turns over. I usually turn the key
> forward in the ignition for a few seconds, then back and turn it forward
> again and try cranking more. It eventually will start after a few tries of
> this.
>
> If its the fuel pump, do I have to drop the rear gastank to get to it? The
> thing is it's from New York and the bottom totally rusted out. I'd have a
> fit trying to get all that stuff unbolted and most likely something is gonna
> break I'm sure.
>
> Troy


Mike Romain 07-07-2006 06:49 PM

Re: 90 XJ cranking issue
 
I would use a spray contact cleaner on the TPS and CPS connections.
That can do it wonders... Even WD40 will work, but a real contact
cleaner is best.

The CPS is located on the top of the drivers side bell housing and the
plug on mine is just above the manifold where heat affects it.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Troy wrote:
>
> Haven't sold that darn thing yet, but I drive it around and sometimes after
> I drive for 30 mins. or so then go back to crank the thing up again an hour
> later it doesn't want to start, just turns over. I usually turn the key
> forward in the ignition for a few seconds, then back and turn it forward
> again and try cranking more. It eventually will start after a few tries of
> this.
>
> If its the fuel pump, do I have to drop the rear gastank to get to it? The
> thing is it's from New York and the bottom totally rusted out. I'd have a
> fit trying to get all that stuff unbolted and most likely something is gonna
> break I'm sure.
>
> Troy


Mike Romain 07-07-2006 06:49 PM

Re: 90 XJ cranking issue
 
I would use a spray contact cleaner on the TPS and CPS connections.
That can do it wonders... Even WD40 will work, but a real contact
cleaner is best.

The CPS is located on the top of the drivers side bell housing and the
plug on mine is just above the manifold where heat affects it.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Troy wrote:
>
> Haven't sold that darn thing yet, but I drive it around and sometimes after
> I drive for 30 mins. or so then go back to crank the thing up again an hour
> later it doesn't want to start, just turns over. I usually turn the key
> forward in the ignition for a few seconds, then back and turn it forward
> again and try cranking more. It eventually will start after a few tries of
> this.
>
> If its the fuel pump, do I have to drop the rear gastank to get to it? The
> thing is it's from New York and the bottom totally rusted out. I'd have a
> fit trying to get all that stuff unbolted and most likely something is gonna
> break I'm sure.
>
> Troy


Troy 07-08-2006 09:42 AM

Re: 90 XJ cranking issue
 
Hmm, well I've replaced the cps sensor already so it must be the TPS... I
remember it drove funny and so I just unplugged it and plugged it back in a
few times and that seemed to fix it. I will get the cleaner now and just
use up the can on all the connections I can find in the thing for good
measure, thanks!

Troy


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44AEE503.69F166A6@sympatico.ca...
>I would use a spray contact cleaner on the TPS and CPS connections.
> That can do it wonders... Even WD40 will work, but a real contact
> cleaner is best.
>
> The CPS is located on the top of the drivers side bell housing and the
> plug on mine is just above the manifold where heat affects it.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Troy wrote:
>>
>> Haven't sold that darn thing yet, but I drive it around and sometimes
>> after
>> I drive for 30 mins. or so then go back to crank the thing up again an
>> hour
>> later it doesn't want to start, just turns over. I usually turn the key
>> forward in the ignition for a few seconds, then back and turn it forward
>> again and try cranking more. It eventually will start after a few tries
>> of
>> this.
>>
>> If its the fuel pump, do I have to drop the rear gastank to get to it?
>> The
>> thing is it's from New York and the bottom totally rusted out. I'd have
>> a
>> fit trying to get all that stuff unbolted and most likely something is
>> gonna
>> break I'm sure.
>>
>> Troy




Troy 07-08-2006 09:42 AM

Re: 90 XJ cranking issue
 
Hmm, well I've replaced the cps sensor already so it must be the TPS... I
remember it drove funny and so I just unplugged it and plugged it back in a
few times and that seemed to fix it. I will get the cleaner now and just
use up the can on all the connections I can find in the thing for good
measure, thanks!

Troy


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44AEE503.69F166A6@sympatico.ca...
>I would use a spray contact cleaner on the TPS and CPS connections.
> That can do it wonders... Even WD40 will work, but a real contact
> cleaner is best.
>
> The CPS is located on the top of the drivers side bell housing and the
> plug on mine is just above the manifold where heat affects it.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Troy wrote:
>>
>> Haven't sold that darn thing yet, but I drive it around and sometimes
>> after
>> I drive for 30 mins. or so then go back to crank the thing up again an
>> hour
>> later it doesn't want to start, just turns over. I usually turn the key
>> forward in the ignition for a few seconds, then back and turn it forward
>> again and try cranking more. It eventually will start after a few tries
>> of
>> this.
>>
>> If its the fuel pump, do I have to drop the rear gastank to get to it?
>> The
>> thing is it's from New York and the bottom totally rusted out. I'd have
>> a
>> fit trying to get all that stuff unbolted and most likely something is
>> gonna
>> break I'm sure.
>>
>> Troy




Troy 07-08-2006 09:42 AM

Re: 90 XJ cranking issue
 
Hmm, well I've replaced the cps sensor already so it must be the TPS... I
remember it drove funny and so I just unplugged it and plugged it back in a
few times and that seemed to fix it. I will get the cleaner now and just
use up the can on all the connections I can find in the thing for good
measure, thanks!

Troy


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44AEE503.69F166A6@sympatico.ca...
>I would use a spray contact cleaner on the TPS and CPS connections.
> That can do it wonders... Even WD40 will work, but a real contact
> cleaner is best.
>
> The CPS is located on the top of the drivers side bell housing and the
> plug on mine is just above the manifold where heat affects it.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Troy wrote:
>>
>> Haven't sold that darn thing yet, but I drive it around and sometimes
>> after
>> I drive for 30 mins. or so then go back to crank the thing up again an
>> hour
>> later it doesn't want to start, just turns over. I usually turn the key
>> forward in the ignition for a few seconds, then back and turn it forward
>> again and try cranking more. It eventually will start after a few tries
>> of
>> this.
>>
>> If its the fuel pump, do I have to drop the rear gastank to get to it?
>> The
>> thing is it's from New York and the bottom totally rusted out. I'd have
>> a
>> fit trying to get all that stuff unbolted and most likely something is
>> gonna
>> break I'm sure.
>>
>> Troy




L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 07-08-2006 02:42 PM

Re: 90 XJ cranking issue
 
That is the test for the Crankshaft Position Sensor, first going
bad:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Troy wrote:
>
> Hmm, well I've replaced the cps sensor already so it must be the TPS... I
> remember it drove funny and so I just unplugged it and plugged it back in a
> few times and that seemed to fix it. I will get the cleaner now and just
> use up the can on all the connections I can find in the thing for good
> measure, thanks!
>
> Troy


L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 07-08-2006 02:42 PM

Re: 90 XJ cranking issue
 
That is the test for the Crankshaft Position Sensor, first going
bad:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Troy wrote:
>
> Hmm, well I've replaced the cps sensor already so it must be the TPS... I
> remember it drove funny and so I just unplugged it and plugged it back in a
> few times and that seemed to fix it. I will get the cleaner now and just
> use up the can on all the connections I can find in the thing for good
> measure, thanks!
>
> Troy


L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 07-08-2006 02:42 PM

Re: 90 XJ cranking issue
 
That is the test for the Crankshaft Position Sensor, first going
bad:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Troy wrote:
>
> Hmm, well I've replaced the cps sensor already so it must be the TPS... I
> remember it drove funny and so I just unplugged it and plugged it back in a
> few times and that seemed to fix it. I will get the cleaner now and just
> use up the can on all the connections I can find in the thing for good
> measure, thanks!
>
> Troy



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