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Greg 11-19-2004 01:02 PM

9", 28 0r 31 spl. ?
 
Aside from pulling an axle out, is there anyway to tell a 28 spline ford
9" from a 31? Was going to get my daughter a detroit for Xmas, since she has
sent back the 2nd lockright, we've given up on them, but I don't know how to
tell 28 from 31, and it's pretty hard to say, Do you mind if I keep your
jeep for a while so I can pull out an axle? And still keep it a suprise.
When I pulled this rear end out of a car with my brother-in-law, he said
it was a 31 spline, but when he redid gears for us, he didn't use the 3rd
member from the thunderbird we took it out of, he used one from a van, so
now I'm not sure if any of it, including 31 spline axles are still there, or
if those got swapped too.



Jeff Strickland 11-19-2004 01:26 PM

Re: 9", 28 0r 31 spl. ?
 
I don't think you can tell from the outside. If the 3rd Member is from a
van, I'd expect it to be the stouter 31-spline type. But, that's just a
guess ...

The assumption I use in making that guess is that the van will have a
heavier payload than the Tbird, therefore a stronger axle. If you remember
the year of the van, you may be able to dial in on the spline count from a
parts manual.






"Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:wyqnd.279351$%k.203308@pd7tw2no...
> Aside from pulling an axle out, is there anyway to tell a 28 spline ford
> 9" from a 31? Was going to get my daughter a detroit for Xmas, since she

has
> sent back the 2nd lockright, we've given up on them, but I don't know how

to
> tell 28 from 31, and it's pretty hard to say, Do you mind if I keep your
> jeep for a while so I can pull out an axle? And still keep it a suprise.
> When I pulled this rear end out of a car with my brother-in-law, he said
> it was a 31 spline, but when he redid gears for us, he didn't use the 3rd
> member from the thunderbird we took it out of, he used one from a van, so
> now I'm not sure if any of it, including 31 spline axles are still there,

or
> if those got swapped too.
>
>




Jeff Strickland 11-19-2004 01:26 PM

Re: 9", 28 0r 31 spl. ?
 
I don't think you can tell from the outside. If the 3rd Member is from a
van, I'd expect it to be the stouter 31-spline type. But, that's just a
guess ...

The assumption I use in making that guess is that the van will have a
heavier payload than the Tbird, therefore a stronger axle. If you remember
the year of the van, you may be able to dial in on the spline count from a
parts manual.






"Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:wyqnd.279351$%k.203308@pd7tw2no...
> Aside from pulling an axle out, is there anyway to tell a 28 spline ford
> 9" from a 31? Was going to get my daughter a detroit for Xmas, since she

has
> sent back the 2nd lockright, we've given up on them, but I don't know how

to
> tell 28 from 31, and it's pretty hard to say, Do you mind if I keep your
> jeep for a while so I can pull out an axle? And still keep it a suprise.
> When I pulled this rear end out of a car with my brother-in-law, he said
> it was a 31 spline, but when he redid gears for us, he didn't use the 3rd
> member from the thunderbird we took it out of, he used one from a van, so
> now I'm not sure if any of it, including 31 spline axles are still there,

or
> if those got swapped too.
>
>




Jeff Strickland 11-19-2004 01:26 PM

Re: 9", 28 0r 31 spl. ?
 
I don't think you can tell from the outside. If the 3rd Member is from a
van, I'd expect it to be the stouter 31-spline type. But, that's just a
guess ...

The assumption I use in making that guess is that the van will have a
heavier payload than the Tbird, therefore a stronger axle. If you remember
the year of the van, you may be able to dial in on the spline count from a
parts manual.






"Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:wyqnd.279351$%k.203308@pd7tw2no...
> Aside from pulling an axle out, is there anyway to tell a 28 spline ford
> 9" from a 31? Was going to get my daughter a detroit for Xmas, since she

has
> sent back the 2nd lockright, we've given up on them, but I don't know how

to
> tell 28 from 31, and it's pretty hard to say, Do you mind if I keep your
> jeep for a while so I can pull out an axle? And still keep it a suprise.
> When I pulled this rear end out of a car with my brother-in-law, he said
> it was a 31 spline, but when he redid gears for us, he didn't use the 3rd
> member from the thunderbird we took it out of, he used one from a van, so
> now I'm not sure if any of it, including 31 spline axles are still there,

or
> if those got swapped too.
>
>




Greg 11-19-2004 02:22 PM

Re: 9", 28 0r 31 spl. ?
 
Don't know anything about the Econoline it came out of, 69 T bird housing
and 78 econoline 3rd member.

"Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message
news:10psemmkidikr43@corp.supernews.com...
>I don't think you can tell from the outside. If the 3rd Member is from a
> van, I'd expect it to be the stouter 31-spline type. But, that's just a
> guess ...
>
> The assumption I use in making that guess is that the van will have a
> heavier payload than the Tbird, therefore a stronger axle. If you remember
> the year of the van, you may be able to dial in on the spline count from a
> parts manual.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:wyqnd.279351$%k.203308@pd7tw2no...
>> Aside from pulling an axle out, is there anyway to tell a 28 spline
>> ford
>> 9" from a 31? Was going to get my daughter a detroit for Xmas, since she

> has
>> sent back the 2nd lockright, we've given up on them, but I don't know how

> to
>> tell 28 from 31, and it's pretty hard to say, Do you mind if I keep your
>> jeep for a while so I can pull out an axle? And still keep it a suprise.
>> When I pulled this rear end out of a car with my brother-in-law, he
>> said
>> it was a 31 spline, but when he redid gears for us, he didn't use the 3rd
>> member from the thunderbird we took it out of, he used one from a van, so
>> now I'm not sure if any of it, including 31 spline axles are still there,

> or
>> if those got swapped too.
>>
>>

>
>




Greg 11-19-2004 02:22 PM

Re: 9", 28 0r 31 spl. ?
 
Don't know anything about the Econoline it came out of, 69 T bird housing
and 78 econoline 3rd member.

"Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message
news:10psemmkidikr43@corp.supernews.com...
>I don't think you can tell from the outside. If the 3rd Member is from a
> van, I'd expect it to be the stouter 31-spline type. But, that's just a
> guess ...
>
> The assumption I use in making that guess is that the van will have a
> heavier payload than the Tbird, therefore a stronger axle. If you remember
> the year of the van, you may be able to dial in on the spline count from a
> parts manual.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:wyqnd.279351$%k.203308@pd7tw2no...
>> Aside from pulling an axle out, is there anyway to tell a 28 spline
>> ford
>> 9" from a 31? Was going to get my daughter a detroit for Xmas, since she

> has
>> sent back the 2nd lockright, we've given up on them, but I don't know how

> to
>> tell 28 from 31, and it's pretty hard to say, Do you mind if I keep your
>> jeep for a while so I can pull out an axle? And still keep it a suprise.
>> When I pulled this rear end out of a car with my brother-in-law, he
>> said
>> it was a 31 spline, but when he redid gears for us, he didn't use the 3rd
>> member from the thunderbird we took it out of, he used one from a van, so
>> now I'm not sure if any of it, including 31 spline axles are still there,

> or
>> if those got swapped too.
>>
>>

>
>




Greg 11-19-2004 02:22 PM

Re: 9", 28 0r 31 spl. ?
 
Don't know anything about the Econoline it came out of, 69 T bird housing
and 78 econoline 3rd member.

"Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message
news:10psemmkidikr43@corp.supernews.com...
>I don't think you can tell from the outside. If the 3rd Member is from a
> van, I'd expect it to be the stouter 31-spline type. But, that's just a
> guess ...
>
> The assumption I use in making that guess is that the van will have a
> heavier payload than the Tbird, therefore a stronger axle. If you remember
> the year of the van, you may be able to dial in on the spline count from a
> parts manual.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:wyqnd.279351$%k.203308@pd7tw2no...
>> Aside from pulling an axle out, is there anyway to tell a 28 spline
>> ford
>> 9" from a 31? Was going to get my daughter a detroit for Xmas, since she

> has
>> sent back the 2nd lockright, we've given up on them, but I don't know how

> to
>> tell 28 from 31, and it's pretty hard to say, Do you mind if I keep your
>> jeep for a while so I can pull out an axle? And still keep it a suprise.
>> When I pulled this rear end out of a car with my brother-in-law, he
>> said
>> it was a 31 spline, but when he redid gears for us, he didn't use the 3rd
>> member from the thunderbird we took it out of, he used one from a van, so
>> now I'm not sure if any of it, including 31 spline axles are still there,

> or
>> if those got swapped too.
>>
>>

>
>




Steve 11-19-2004 03:15 PM

Re: 9", 28 0r 31 spl. ?
 
"early half ton trucks got the 28 spline axles and carriers, while
sometime in the early 70’s the switch was made to mostly 31 spline axles
and carriers for most trucks" :

http://www.gearheadracing.com/Refere...FordDiffer.htm

Almost certainly a 31 spline, but there's only one way to know for sure.

Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org


Greg wrote:
> Don't know anything about the Econoline it came out of, 69 T bird housing
> and 78 econoline 3rd member.
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message
> news:10psemmkidikr43@corp.supernews.com...
>
>>I don't think you can tell from the outside. If the 3rd Member is from a
>>van, I'd expect it to be the stouter 31-spline type. But, that's just a
>>guess ...
>>
>>The assumption I use in making that guess is that the van will have a
>>heavier payload than the Tbird, therefore a stronger axle. If you remember
>>the year of the van, you may be able to dial in on the spline count from a
>>parts manual.


Steve 11-19-2004 03:15 PM

Re: 9", 28 0r 31 spl. ?
 
"early half ton trucks got the 28 spline axles and carriers, while
sometime in the early 70’s the switch was made to mostly 31 spline axles
and carriers for most trucks" :

http://www.gearheadracing.com/Refere...FordDiffer.htm

Almost certainly a 31 spline, but there's only one way to know for sure.

Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org


Greg wrote:
> Don't know anything about the Econoline it came out of, 69 T bird housing
> and 78 econoline 3rd member.
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message
> news:10psemmkidikr43@corp.supernews.com...
>
>>I don't think you can tell from the outside. If the 3rd Member is from a
>>van, I'd expect it to be the stouter 31-spline type. But, that's just a
>>guess ...
>>
>>The assumption I use in making that guess is that the van will have a
>>heavier payload than the Tbird, therefore a stronger axle. If you remember
>>the year of the van, you may be able to dial in on the spline count from a
>>parts manual.


Steve 11-19-2004 03:15 PM

Re: 9", 28 0r 31 spl. ?
 
"early half ton trucks got the 28 spline axles and carriers, while
sometime in the early 70’s the switch was made to mostly 31 spline axles
and carriers for most trucks" :

http://www.gearheadracing.com/Refere...FordDiffer.htm

Almost certainly a 31 spline, but there's only one way to know for sure.

Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org


Greg wrote:
> Don't know anything about the Econoline it came out of, 69 T bird housing
> and 78 econoline 3rd member.
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message
> news:10psemmkidikr43@corp.supernews.com...
>
>>I don't think you can tell from the outside. If the 3rd Member is from a
>>van, I'd expect it to be the stouter 31-spline type. But, that's just a
>>guess ...
>>
>>The assumption I use in making that guess is that the van will have a
>>heavier payload than the Tbird, therefore a stronger axle. If you remember
>>the year of the van, you may be able to dial in on the spline count from a
>>parts manual.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-19-2004 03:19 PM

Re: 9", 28 0r 31 spl. ?
 
Hi Greg,
It's not much more than pulling a wheel to pull the axle:
http://www.quickperformance.com/ninecase.htm A couple of pops with a
chain, if you don't have slide hammer.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Greg wrote:
>
> Aside from pulling an axle out, is there anyway to tell a 28 spline ford
> 9" from a 31? Was going to get my daughter a detroit for Xmas, since she has
> sent back the 2nd lockright, we've given up on them, but I don't know how to
> tell 28 from 31, and it's pretty hard to say, Do you mind if I keep your
> jeep for a while so I can pull out an axle? And still keep it a suprise.
> When I pulled this rear end out of a car with my brother-in-law, he said
> it was a 31 spline, but when he redid gears for us, he didn't use the 3rd
> member from the thunderbird we took it out of, he used one from a van, so
> now I'm not sure if any of it, including 31 spline axles are still there, or
> if those got swapped too.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-19-2004 03:19 PM

Re: 9", 28 0r 31 spl. ?
 
Hi Greg,
It's not much more than pulling a wheel to pull the axle:
http://www.quickperformance.com/ninecase.htm A couple of pops with a
chain, if you don't have slide hammer.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Greg wrote:
>
> Aside from pulling an axle out, is there anyway to tell a 28 spline ford
> 9" from a 31? Was going to get my daughter a detroit for Xmas, since she has
> sent back the 2nd lockright, we've given up on them, but I don't know how to
> tell 28 from 31, and it's pretty hard to say, Do you mind if I keep your
> jeep for a while so I can pull out an axle? And still keep it a suprise.
> When I pulled this rear end out of a car with my brother-in-law, he said
> it was a 31 spline, but when he redid gears for us, he didn't use the 3rd
> member from the thunderbird we took it out of, he used one from a van, so
> now I'm not sure if any of it, including 31 spline axles are still there, or
> if those got swapped too.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-19-2004 03:19 PM

Re: 9", 28 0r 31 spl. ?
 
Hi Greg,
It's not much more than pulling a wheel to pull the axle:
http://www.quickperformance.com/ninecase.htm A couple of pops with a
chain, if you don't have slide hammer.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Greg wrote:
>
> Aside from pulling an axle out, is there anyway to tell a 28 spline ford
> 9" from a 31? Was going to get my daughter a detroit for Xmas, since she has
> sent back the 2nd lockright, we've given up on them, but I don't know how to
> tell 28 from 31, and it's pretty hard to say, Do you mind if I keep your
> jeep for a while so I can pull out an axle? And still keep it a suprise.
> When I pulled this rear end out of a car with my brother-in-law, he said
> it was a 31 spline, but when he redid gears for us, he didn't use the 3rd
> member from the thunderbird we took it out of, he used one from a van, so
> now I'm not sure if any of it, including 31 spline axles are still there, or
> if those got swapped too.


Greg 11-19-2004 03:46 PM

Re: 9", 28 0r 31 spl. ?
 
Thanks for all replies, just heard back from my brother-in-law, 31 spline.
And we deffinately know how easy it is to pull the axles out. We install in
her YJ, but lockright locker was no good, last one block, out it came, back
in without locker, then when new lockright came, back out again, in with
locker, that one last a week, out it came again, back in without locker, my
daughter's getting to be a pro at removing this 3rd member.

"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:419E555B.FB155F66@cox.net...
> Hi Greg,
> It's not much more than pulling a wheel to pull the axle:
> http://www.quickperformance.com/ninecase.htm A couple of pops with a
> chain, if you don't have slide hammer.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Greg wrote:
>>
>> Aside from pulling an axle out, is there anyway to tell a 28 spline
>> ford
>> 9" from a 31? Was going to get my daughter a detroit for Xmas, since she
>> has
>> sent back the 2nd lockright, we've given up on them, but I don't know how
>> to
>> tell 28 from 31, and it's pretty hard to say, Do you mind if I keep your
>> jeep for a while so I can pull out an axle? And still keep it a suprise.
>> When I pulled this rear end out of a car with my brother-in-law, he
>> said
>> it was a 31 spline, but when he redid gears for us, he didn't use the 3rd
>> member from the thunderbird we took it out of, he used one from a van, so
>> now I'm not sure if any of it, including 31 spline axles are still there,
>> or
>> if those got swapped too.




Greg 11-19-2004 03:46 PM

Re: 9", 28 0r 31 spl. ?
 
Thanks for all replies, just heard back from my brother-in-law, 31 spline.
And we deffinately know how easy it is to pull the axles out. We install in
her YJ, but lockright locker was no good, last one block, out it came, back
in without locker, then when new lockright came, back out again, in with
locker, that one last a week, out it came again, back in without locker, my
daughter's getting to be a pro at removing this 3rd member.

"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:419E555B.FB155F66@cox.net...
> Hi Greg,
> It's not much more than pulling a wheel to pull the axle:
> http://www.quickperformance.com/ninecase.htm A couple of pops with a
> chain, if you don't have slide hammer.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Greg wrote:
>>
>> Aside from pulling an axle out, is there anyway to tell a 28 spline
>> ford
>> 9" from a 31? Was going to get my daughter a detroit for Xmas, since she
>> has
>> sent back the 2nd lockright, we've given up on them, but I don't know how
>> to
>> tell 28 from 31, and it's pretty hard to say, Do you mind if I keep your
>> jeep for a while so I can pull out an axle? And still keep it a suprise.
>> When I pulled this rear end out of a car with my brother-in-law, he
>> said
>> it was a 31 spline, but when he redid gears for us, he didn't use the 3rd
>> member from the thunderbird we took it out of, he used one from a van, so
>> now I'm not sure if any of it, including 31 spline axles are still there,
>> or
>> if those got swapped too.




Greg 11-19-2004 03:46 PM

Re: 9", 28 0r 31 spl. ?
 
Thanks for all replies, just heard back from my brother-in-law, 31 spline.
And we deffinately know how easy it is to pull the axles out. We install in
her YJ, but lockright locker was no good, last one block, out it came, back
in without locker, then when new lockright came, back out again, in with
locker, that one last a week, out it came again, back in without locker, my
daughter's getting to be a pro at removing this 3rd member.

"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:419E555B.FB155F66@cox.net...
> Hi Greg,
> It's not much more than pulling a wheel to pull the axle:
> http://www.quickperformance.com/ninecase.htm A couple of pops with a
> chain, if you don't have slide hammer.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Greg wrote:
>>
>> Aside from pulling an axle out, is there anyway to tell a 28 spline
>> ford
>> 9" from a 31? Was going to get my daughter a detroit for Xmas, since she
>> has
>> sent back the 2nd lockright, we've given up on them, but I don't know how
>> to
>> tell 28 from 31, and it's pretty hard to say, Do you mind if I keep your
>> jeep for a while so I can pull out an axle? And still keep it a suprise.
>> When I pulled this rear end out of a car with my brother-in-law, he
>> said
>> it was a 31 spline, but when he redid gears for us, he didn't use the 3rd
>> member from the thunderbird we took it out of, he used one from a van, so
>> now I'm not sure if any of it, including 31 spline axles are still there,
>> or
>> if those got swapped too.




L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-19-2004 03:59 PM

Re: 9", 28 0r 31 spl. ?
 
Fix it, with a welder was built by Lincoln Electric.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Greg wrote:
>
> Thanks for all replies, just heard back from my brother-in-law, 31 spline.
> And we deffinately know how easy it is to pull the axles out. We install in
> her YJ, but lockright locker was no good, last one block, out it came, back
> in without locker, then when new lockright came, back out again, in with
> locker, that one last a week, out it came again, back in without locker, my
> daughter's getting to be a pro at removing this 3rd member.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-19-2004 03:59 PM

Re: 9", 28 0r 31 spl. ?
 
Fix it, with a welder was built by Lincoln Electric.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Greg wrote:
>
> Thanks for all replies, just heard back from my brother-in-law, 31 spline.
> And we deffinately know how easy it is to pull the axles out. We install in
> her YJ, but lockright locker was no good, last one block, out it came, back
> in without locker, then when new lockright came, back out again, in with
> locker, that one last a week, out it came again, back in without locker, my
> daughter's getting to be a pro at removing this 3rd member.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-19-2004 03:59 PM

Re: 9", 28 0r 31 spl. ?
 
Fix it, with a welder was built by Lincoln Electric.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Greg wrote:
>
> Thanks for all replies, just heard back from my brother-in-law, 31 spline.
> And we deffinately know how easy it is to pull the axles out. We install in
> her YJ, but lockright locker was no good, last one block, out it came, back
> in without locker, then when new lockright came, back out again, in with
> locker, that one last a week, out it came again, back in without locker, my
> daughter's getting to be a pro at removing this 3rd member.



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