86 MJ brake lines altered
 

I just noticed that the brake lines starting with the proportioning valve
have been reworked on my recently acquired MJ. I haven't traced all the
altered lines but for one thing the height sensing valve has been bypassed.
Maybe this explains wht the dash light is always illuminated. (I fixed that
probem : ) )The brakes generally work OK but a light foot is required to
keep the rears from locking up. My question is: In how big of a hurry do I
need to be to return to the original configuration? This of course presumes
that the height sensing valve can be salvaged or replaced. Thanks.

86 MJ longbed, auto, 2.5L, 155K


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Re: 86 MJ brake lines altered
 

Hi Stephen,
I think your Comanche may have come with the anti lock brakes for
the rear axle, that failed of course. Because we couldn't bypass
anything on a regular system's proportioning valve or master cylinder
and have anything work properly. Like the previous owner may have
salvaged some of the lines pictured on the upper half of page number
three: http://www.----------.com/88JeepBrakeParts.pdf And replaced the
master cylinder with page number one. I think your best bet would be to
go to a bone yard and buy the complete set of lines, from an XJ, because
as I remember some of the fitting of that f**k up system used left hand
threads, to keep us from disconnect that POS from new.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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"Stephen R. Conrad" wrote:
>
> I just noticed that the brake lines starting with the proportioning valve
> have been reworked on my recently acquired MJ. I haven't traced all the
> altered lines but for one thing the height sensing valve has been bypassed.
> Maybe this explains wht the dash light is always illuminated. (I fixed that
> probem : ) )The brakes generally work OK but a light foot is required to
> keep the rears from locking up. My question is: In how big of a hurry do I
> need to be to return to the original configuration? This of course presumes
> that the height sensing valve can be salvaged or replaced. Thanks.
>
> 86 MJ longbed, auto, 2.5L, 155K
>
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Re: 86 MJ brake lines altered
 

Hi Stephen,
I think your Comanche may have come with the anti lock brakes for
the rear axle, that failed of course. Because we couldn't bypass
anything on a regular system's proportioning valve or master cylinder
and have anything work properly. Like the previous owner may have
salvaged some of the lines pictured on the upper half of page number
three: http://www.----------.com/88JeepBrakeParts.pdf And replaced the
master cylinder with page number one. I think your best bet would be to
go to a bone yard and buy the complete set of lines, from an XJ, because
as I remember some of the fitting of that f**k up system used left hand
threads, to keep us from disconnect that POS from new.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

"Stephen R. Conrad" wrote:
>
> I just noticed that the brake lines starting with the proportioning valve
> have been reworked on my recently acquired MJ. I haven't traced all the
> altered lines but for one thing the height sensing valve has been bypassed.
> Maybe this explains wht the dash light is always illuminated. (I fixed that
> probem : ) )The brakes generally work OK but a light foot is required to
> keep the rears from locking up. My question is: In how big of a hurry do I
> need to be to return to the original configuration? This of course presumes
> that the height sensing valve can be salvaged or replaced. Thanks.
>
> 86 MJ longbed, auto, 2.5L, 155K
>
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Re: 86 MJ brake lines altered
 

Hi Stephen,
I think your Comanche may have come with the anti lock brakes for
the rear axle, that failed of course. Because we couldn't bypass
anything on a regular system's proportioning valve or master cylinder
and have anything work properly. Like the previous owner may have
salvaged some of the lines pictured on the upper half of page number
three: http://www.----------.com/88JeepBrakeParts.pdf And replaced the
master cylinder with page number one. I think your best bet would be to
go to a bone yard and buy the complete set of lines, from an XJ, because
as I remember some of the fitting of that f**k up system used left hand
threads, to keep us from disconnect that POS from new.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

"Stephen R. Conrad" wrote:
>
> I just noticed that the brake lines starting with the proportioning valve
> have been reworked on my recently acquired MJ. I haven't traced all the
> altered lines but for one thing the height sensing valve has been bypassed.
> Maybe this explains wht the dash light is always illuminated. (I fixed that
> probem : ) )The brakes generally work OK but a light foot is required to
> keep the rears from locking up. My question is: In how big of a hurry do I
> need to be to return to the original configuration? This of course presumes
> that the height sensing valve can be salvaged or replaced. Thanks.
>
> 86 MJ longbed, auto, 2.5L, 155K
>
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Re: 86 MJ brake lines altered
 

On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 02:03:09 UTC "Stephen R. Conrad"
<sconradpt@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I just noticed that the brake lines starting with the proportioning valve
> have been reworked on my recently acquired MJ. I haven't traced all the
> altered lines but for one thing the height sensing valve has been bypassed.
> Maybe this explains wht the dash light is always illuminated. (I fixed that
> probem : ) )The brakes generally work OK but a light foot is required to
> keep the rears from locking up. My question is: In how big of a hurry do I
> need to be to return to the original configuration? This of course presumes
> that the height sensing valve can be salvaged or replaced. Thanks.
>
> 86 MJ longbed, auto, 2.5L, 155K

Stephen, I've got an 88 long bed and I would suggest you find that
load adjusting valve pretty quick. I forgot to hook the lever up when
I did the first diff change and the rear end locked up almost
instantly when I hit the brake. With it in place, I CAN lock the rear
brakes, but only by putting my full weight on the pedal and darned
near rupturing myself pushing - but by then the fronts are locked as
well. Don't know where you would find one except at a boneyard, but
then I haven't check the parts dept for it either. Bet it's not
cheap.

--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>

Re: 86 MJ brake lines altered
 

On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 02:03:09 UTC "Stephen R. Conrad"
<sconradpt@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I just noticed that the brake lines starting with the proportioning valve
> have been reworked on my recently acquired MJ. I haven't traced all the
> altered lines but for one thing the height sensing valve has been bypassed.
> Maybe this explains wht the dash light is always illuminated. (I fixed that
> probem : ) )The brakes generally work OK but a light foot is required to
> keep the rears from locking up. My question is: In how big of a hurry do I
> need to be to return to the original configuration? This of course presumes
> that the height sensing valve can be salvaged or replaced. Thanks.
>
> 86 MJ longbed, auto, 2.5L, 155K

Stephen, I've got an 88 long bed and I would suggest you find that
load adjusting valve pretty quick. I forgot to hook the lever up when
I did the first diff change and the rear end locked up almost
instantly when I hit the brake. With it in place, I CAN lock the rear
brakes, but only by putting my full weight on the pedal and darned
near rupturing myself pushing - but by then the fronts are locked as
well. Don't know where you would find one except at a boneyard, but
then I haven't check the parts dept for it either. Bet it's not
cheap.

--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>

Re: 86 MJ brake lines altered
 

On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 02:03:09 UTC "Stephen R. Conrad"
<sconradpt@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I just noticed that the brake lines starting with the proportioning valve
> have been reworked on my recently acquired MJ. I haven't traced all the
> altered lines but for one thing the height sensing valve has been bypassed.
> Maybe this explains wht the dash light is always illuminated. (I fixed that
> probem : ) )The brakes generally work OK but a light foot is required to
> keep the rears from locking up. My question is: In how big of a hurry do I
> need to be to return to the original configuration? This of course presumes
> that the height sensing valve can be salvaged or replaced. Thanks.
>
> 86 MJ longbed, auto, 2.5L, 155K

Stephen, I've got an 88 long bed and I would suggest you find that
load adjusting valve pretty quick. I forgot to hook the lever up when
I did the first diff change and the rear end locked up almost
instantly when I hit the brake. With it in place, I CAN lock the rear
brakes, but only by putting my full weight on the pedal and darned
near rupturing myself pushing - but by then the fronts are locked as
well. Don't know where you would find one except at a boneyard, but
then I haven't check the parts dept for it either. Bet it's not
cheap.

--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>

Re: 86 MJ brake lines altered
 

Thanks for the replies.

I did not mention in the first post that there are also air shocks on the
rear. Wouldn't this fool a working height sensing valve? I don't know in
what order these changes were made. I had broken spring leafs replaced 2 on
right 1 on left and a rusted out shackle on the left.

Bill, I don't think that this one ever had abs.

Will, The old height sensing valve is still on the vehicle but the link to
the diff is gone. Everything is very rusty under there. The old brake lines
just under the proportioning valve (located directly under the master
cylinder are still there, but have been cut away and new lines installed. I
have not completely followed the new routing, but one of the outlets from
the proportioning valve is not being used. The one directly on the bottom of
the valve.

"Stephen R. Conrad" <sconradpt@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c2dvsh$1rgp40$1@ID-129890.news.uni-berlin.de...
> I just noticed that the brake lines starting with the proportioning valve
> have been reworked on my recently acquired MJ. I haven't traced all the
> altered lines but for one thing the height sensing valve has been
bypassed.
> Maybe this explains wht the dash light is always illuminated. (I fixed
that
> probem : ) )The brakes generally work OK but a light foot is required to
> keep the rears from locking up. My question is: In how big of a hurry do I
> need to be to return to the original configuration? This of course
presumes
> that the height sensing valve can be salvaged or replaced. Thanks.
>
> 86 MJ longbed, auto, 2.5L, 155K
>
>
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Re: 86 MJ brake lines altered
 

Thanks for the replies.

I did not mention in the first post that there are also air shocks on the
rear. Wouldn't this fool a working height sensing valve? I don't know in
what order these changes were made. I had broken spring leafs replaced 2 on
right 1 on left and a rusted out shackle on the left.

Bill, I don't think that this one ever had abs.

Will, The old height sensing valve is still on the vehicle but the link to
the diff is gone. Everything is very rusty under there. The old brake lines
just under the proportioning valve (located directly under the master
cylinder are still there, but have been cut away and new lines installed. I
have not completely followed the new routing, but one of the outlets from
the proportioning valve is not being used. The one directly on the bottom of
the valve.

"Stephen R. Conrad" <sconradpt@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c2dvsh$1rgp40$1@ID-129890.news.uni-berlin.de...
> I just noticed that the brake lines starting with the proportioning valve
> have been reworked on my recently acquired MJ. I haven't traced all the
> altered lines but for one thing the height sensing valve has been
bypassed.
> Maybe this explains wht the dash light is always illuminated. (I fixed
that
> probem : ) )The brakes generally work OK but a light foot is required to
> keep the rears from locking up. My question is: In how big of a hurry do I
> need to be to return to the original configuration? This of course
presumes
> that the height sensing valve can be salvaged or replaced. Thanks.
>
> 86 MJ longbed, auto, 2.5L, 155K
>
>
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Re: 86 MJ brake lines altered
 

Thanks for the replies.

I did not mention in the first post that there are also air shocks on the
rear. Wouldn't this fool a working height sensing valve? I don't know in
what order these changes were made. I had broken spring leafs replaced 2 on
right 1 on left and a rusted out shackle on the left.

Bill, I don't think that this one ever had abs.

Will, The old height sensing valve is still on the vehicle but the link to
the diff is gone. Everything is very rusty under there. The old brake lines
just under the proportioning valve (located directly under the master
cylinder are still there, but have been cut away and new lines installed. I
have not completely followed the new routing, but one of the outlets from
the proportioning valve is not being used. The one directly on the bottom of
the valve.

"Stephen R. Conrad" <sconradpt@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c2dvsh$1rgp40$1@ID-129890.news.uni-berlin.de...
> I just noticed that the brake lines starting with the proportioning valve
> have been reworked on my recently acquired MJ. I haven't traced all the
> altered lines but for one thing the height sensing valve has been
bypassed.
> Maybe this explains wht the dash light is always illuminated. (I fixed
that
> probem : ) )The brakes generally work OK but a light foot is required to
> keep the rears from locking up. My question is: In how big of a hurry do I
> need to be to return to the original configuration? This of course
presumes
> that the height sensing valve can be salvaged or replaced. Thanks.
>
> 86 MJ longbed, auto, 2.5L, 155K
>
>
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