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mh51867 09-02-2006 01:06 AM

'86 Jeep CJ7 - need help
 
I have a 1986 Jeep CJ7 which I recently put a rebuilt engine into.
Just today, there's a new problem that's got me stumped. The two rear
tires have a greasy oily substance that is literally sprayed all over
them (inner tires and inside the wheel wells). I've been underneath
and don't see any leaks - this obviously happened while driving.
There's a ton of oil. What is the most weird is that it's on BOTH
sides - both rear inner tires & wheel wells. Brake fluid is full and
looks fine, no drips underneath the jeep. I did hear a semi loud clunk
when driving this morning just as I got going and was turning sharply
out of the driveway. No leaks up front.

Any ideas?


billy ray 09-02-2006 01:42 AM

Re: '86 Jeep CJ7 - need help
 
Is it heavy and stinky enough to be gear lube?


"mh51867" <mh51867@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1157173577.544183.280990@p79g2000cwp.googlegr oups.com...
>I have a 1986 Jeep CJ7 which I recently put a rebuilt engine into.
> Just today, there's a new problem that's got me stumped. The two rear
> tires have a greasy oily substance that is literally sprayed all over
> them (inner tires and inside the wheel wells). I've been underneath
> and don't see any leaks - this obviously happened while driving.
> There's a ton of oil. What is the most weird is that it's on BOTH
> sides - both rear inner tires & wheel wells. Brake fluid is full and
> looks fine, no drips underneath the jeep. I did hear a semi loud clunk
> when driving this morning just as I got going and was turning sharply
> out of the driveway. No leaks up front.
>
> Any ideas?
>




billy ray 09-02-2006 01:42 AM

Re: '86 Jeep CJ7 - need help
 
Is it heavy and stinky enough to be gear lube?


"mh51867" <mh51867@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1157173577.544183.280990@p79g2000cwp.googlegr oups.com...
>I have a 1986 Jeep CJ7 which I recently put a rebuilt engine into.
> Just today, there's a new problem that's got me stumped. The two rear
> tires have a greasy oily substance that is literally sprayed all over
> them (inner tires and inside the wheel wells). I've been underneath
> and don't see any leaks - this obviously happened while driving.
> There's a ton of oil. What is the most weird is that it's on BOTH
> sides - both rear inner tires & wheel wells. Brake fluid is full and
> looks fine, no drips underneath the jeep. I did hear a semi loud clunk
> when driving this morning just as I got going and was turning sharply
> out of the driveway. No leaks up front.
>
> Any ideas?
>




billy ray 09-02-2006 01:42 AM

Re: '86 Jeep CJ7 - need help
 
Is it heavy and stinky enough to be gear lube?


"mh51867" <mh51867@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1157173577.544183.280990@p79g2000cwp.googlegr oups.com...
>I have a 1986 Jeep CJ7 which I recently put a rebuilt engine into.
> Just today, there's a new problem that's got me stumped. The two rear
> tires have a greasy oily substance that is literally sprayed all over
> them (inner tires and inside the wheel wells). I've been underneath
> and don't see any leaks - this obviously happened while driving.
> There's a ton of oil. What is the most weird is that it's on BOTH
> sides - both rear inner tires & wheel wells. Brake fluid is full and
> looks fine, no drips underneath the jeep. I did hear a semi loud clunk
> when driving this morning just as I got going and was turning sharply
> out of the driveway. No leaks up front.
>
> Any ideas?
>




L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 09-02-2006 01:52 AM

Re: '86 Jeep CJ7 - need help
 
Both brake fluid and gear lube have their distinct smells, but
regardless it must come apart to replace the seals or cups, or both.
AMC20 hub: http://www.----------.com/amc20hub.jpg Axle and shoes:
http://www.----------.com/temp/AMC20axle.pdf Dana 44 axle and shoes:
http://www.----------.com/temp/dana44axle.pdf
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

mh51867 wrote:
>
> I have a 1986 Jeep CJ7 which I recently put a rebuilt engine into.
> Just today, there's a new problem that's got me stumped. The two rear
> tires have a greasy oily substance that is literally sprayed all over
> them (inner tires and inside the wheel wells). I've been underneath
> and don't see any leaks - this obviously happened while driving.
> There's a ton of oil. What is the most weird is that it's on BOTH
> sides - both rear inner tires & wheel wells. Brake fluid is full and
> looks fine, no drips underneath the jeep. I did hear a semi loud clunk
> when driving this morning just as I got going and was turning sharply
> out of the driveway. No leaks up front.
>
> Any ideas?


L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 09-02-2006 01:52 AM

Re: '86 Jeep CJ7 - need help
 
Both brake fluid and gear lube have their distinct smells, but
regardless it must come apart to replace the seals or cups, or both.
AMC20 hub: http://www.----------.com/amc20hub.jpg Axle and shoes:
http://www.----------.com/temp/AMC20axle.pdf Dana 44 axle and shoes:
http://www.----------.com/temp/dana44axle.pdf
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

mh51867 wrote:
>
> I have a 1986 Jeep CJ7 which I recently put a rebuilt engine into.
> Just today, there's a new problem that's got me stumped. The two rear
> tires have a greasy oily substance that is literally sprayed all over
> them (inner tires and inside the wheel wells). I've been underneath
> and don't see any leaks - this obviously happened while driving.
> There's a ton of oil. What is the most weird is that it's on BOTH
> sides - both rear inner tires & wheel wells. Brake fluid is full and
> looks fine, no drips underneath the jeep. I did hear a semi loud clunk
> when driving this morning just as I got going and was turning sharply
> out of the driveway. No leaks up front.
>
> Any ideas?


L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 09-02-2006 01:52 AM

Re: '86 Jeep CJ7 - need help
 
Both brake fluid and gear lube have their distinct smells, but
regardless it must come apart to replace the seals or cups, or both.
AMC20 hub: http://www.----------.com/amc20hub.jpg Axle and shoes:
http://www.----------.com/temp/AMC20axle.pdf Dana 44 axle and shoes:
http://www.----------.com/temp/dana44axle.pdf
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

mh51867 wrote:
>
> I have a 1986 Jeep CJ7 which I recently put a rebuilt engine into.
> Just today, there's a new problem that's got me stumped. The two rear
> tires have a greasy oily substance that is literally sprayed all over
> them (inner tires and inside the wheel wells). I've been underneath
> and don't see any leaks - this obviously happened while driving.
> There's a ton of oil. What is the most weird is that it's on BOTH
> sides - both rear inner tires & wheel wells. Brake fluid is full and
> looks fine, no drips underneath the jeep. I did hear a semi loud clunk
> when driving this morning just as I got going and was turning sharply
> out of the driveway. No leaks up front.
>
> Any ideas?


mh51867 09-02-2006 08:31 AM

Re: '86 Jeep CJ7 - need help
 
Not thick enough to be lube - that's for certain. Definitely oily and
thin. I'll check all seals & cups - just very strange in my opinion
for both tires (both sides in other words) to have this stuff sprayed
all over them.

Thanks for the input - keep it coming if this issue sounds like
something you know of.





L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> Both brake fluid and gear lube have their distinct smells, but
> regardless it must come apart to replace the seals or cups, or both.
> AMC20 hub: http://www.----------.com/amc20hub.jpg Axle and shoes:
> http://www.----------.com/temp/AMC20axle.pdf Dana 44 axle and shoes:
> http://www.----------.com/temp/dana44axle.pdf
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> mh51867 wrote:
> >
> > I have a 1986 Jeep CJ7 which I recently put a rebuilt engine into.
> > Just today, there's a new problem that's got me stumped. The two rear
> > tires have a greasy oily substance that is literally sprayed all over
> > them (inner tires and inside the wheel wells). I've been underneath
> > and don't see any leaks - this obviously happened while driving.
> > There's a ton of oil. What is the most weird is that it's on BOTH
> > sides - both rear inner tires & wheel wells. Brake fluid is full and
> > looks fine, no drips underneath the jeep. I did hear a semi loud clunk
> > when driving this morning just as I got going and was turning sharply
> > out of the driveway. No leaks up front.
> >
> > Any ideas?



mh51867 09-02-2006 08:31 AM

Re: '86 Jeep CJ7 - need help
 
Not thick enough to be lube - that's for certain. Definitely oily and
thin. I'll check all seals & cups - just very strange in my opinion
for both tires (both sides in other words) to have this stuff sprayed
all over them.

Thanks for the input - keep it coming if this issue sounds like
something you know of.





L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> Both brake fluid and gear lube have their distinct smells, but
> regardless it must come apart to replace the seals or cups, or both.
> AMC20 hub: http://www.----------.com/amc20hub.jpg Axle and shoes:
> http://www.----------.com/temp/AMC20axle.pdf Dana 44 axle and shoes:
> http://www.----------.com/temp/dana44axle.pdf
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> mh51867 wrote:
> >
> > I have a 1986 Jeep CJ7 which I recently put a rebuilt engine into.
> > Just today, there's a new problem that's got me stumped. The two rear
> > tires have a greasy oily substance that is literally sprayed all over
> > them (inner tires and inside the wheel wells). I've been underneath
> > and don't see any leaks - this obviously happened while driving.
> > There's a ton of oil. What is the most weird is that it's on BOTH
> > sides - both rear inner tires & wheel wells. Brake fluid is full and
> > looks fine, no drips underneath the jeep. I did hear a semi loud clunk
> > when driving this morning just as I got going and was turning sharply
> > out of the driveway. No leaks up front.
> >
> > Any ideas?



mh51867 09-02-2006 08:31 AM

Re: '86 Jeep CJ7 - need help
 
Not thick enough to be lube - that's for certain. Definitely oily and
thin. I'll check all seals & cups - just very strange in my opinion
for both tires (both sides in other words) to have this stuff sprayed
all over them.

Thanks for the input - keep it coming if this issue sounds like
something you know of.





L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> Both brake fluid and gear lube have their distinct smells, but
> regardless it must come apart to replace the seals or cups, or both.
> AMC20 hub: http://www.----------.com/amc20hub.jpg Axle and shoes:
> http://www.----------.com/temp/AMC20axle.pdf Dana 44 axle and shoes:
> http://www.----------.com/temp/dana44axle.pdf
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> mh51867 wrote:
> >
> > I have a 1986 Jeep CJ7 which I recently put a rebuilt engine into.
> > Just today, there's a new problem that's got me stumped. The two rear
> > tires have a greasy oily substance that is literally sprayed all over
> > them (inner tires and inside the wheel wells). I've been underneath
> > and don't see any leaks - this obviously happened while driving.
> > There's a ton of oil. What is the most weird is that it's on BOTH
> > sides - both rear inner tires & wheel wells. Brake fluid is full and
> > looks fine, no drips underneath the jeep. I did hear a semi loud clunk
> > when driving this morning just as I got going and was turning sharply
> > out of the driveway. No leaks up front.
> >
> > Any ideas?



mh51867 09-02-2006 08:43 AM

Re: '86 Jeep CJ7 - need help
 
and by the way - thanks for taking the time to post the links - very
helpful - I appreciate it!!!


L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> Both brake fluid and gear lube have their distinct smells, but
> regardless it must come apart to replace the seals or cups, or both.
> AMC20 hub: http://www.----------.com/amc20hub.jpg Axle and shoes:
> http://www.----------.com/temp/AMC20axle.pdf Dana 44 axle and shoes:
> http://www.----------.com/temp/dana44axle.pdf
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> mh51867 wrote:
> >
> > I have a 1986 Jeep CJ7 which I recently put a rebuilt engine into.
> > Just today, there's a new problem that's got me stumped. The two rear
> > tires have a greasy oily substance that is literally sprayed all over
> > them (inner tires and inside the wheel wells). I've been underneath
> > and don't see any leaks - this obviously happened while driving.
> > There's a ton of oil. What is the most weird is that it's on BOTH
> > sides - both rear inner tires & wheel wells. Brake fluid is full and
> > looks fine, no drips underneath the jeep. I did hear a semi loud clunk
> > when driving this morning just as I got going and was turning sharply
> > out of the driveway. No leaks up front.
> >
> > Any ideas?



mh51867 09-02-2006 08:43 AM

Re: '86 Jeep CJ7 - need help
 
and by the way - thanks for taking the time to post the links - very
helpful - I appreciate it!!!


L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> Both brake fluid and gear lube have their distinct smells, but
> regardless it must come apart to replace the seals or cups, or both.
> AMC20 hub: http://www.----------.com/amc20hub.jpg Axle and shoes:
> http://www.----------.com/temp/AMC20axle.pdf Dana 44 axle and shoes:
> http://www.----------.com/temp/dana44axle.pdf
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> mh51867 wrote:
> >
> > I have a 1986 Jeep CJ7 which I recently put a rebuilt engine into.
> > Just today, there's a new problem that's got me stumped. The two rear
> > tires have a greasy oily substance that is literally sprayed all over
> > them (inner tires and inside the wheel wells). I've been underneath
> > and don't see any leaks - this obviously happened while driving.
> > There's a ton of oil. What is the most weird is that it's on BOTH
> > sides - both rear inner tires & wheel wells. Brake fluid is full and
> > looks fine, no drips underneath the jeep. I did hear a semi loud clunk
> > when driving this morning just as I got going and was turning sharply
> > out of the driveway. No leaks up front.
> >
> > Any ideas?



mh51867 09-02-2006 08:43 AM

Re: '86 Jeep CJ7 - need help
 
and by the way - thanks for taking the time to post the links - very
helpful - I appreciate it!!!


L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> Both brake fluid and gear lube have their distinct smells, but
> regardless it must come apart to replace the seals or cups, or both.
> AMC20 hub: http://www.----------.com/amc20hub.jpg Axle and shoes:
> http://www.----------.com/temp/AMC20axle.pdf Dana 44 axle and shoes:
> http://www.----------.com/temp/dana44axle.pdf
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> mh51867 wrote:
> >
> > I have a 1986 Jeep CJ7 which I recently put a rebuilt engine into.
> > Just today, there's a new problem that's got me stumped. The two rear
> > tires have a greasy oily substance that is literally sprayed all over
> > them (inner tires and inside the wheel wells). I've been underneath
> > and don't see any leaks - this obviously happened while driving.
> > There's a ton of oil. What is the most weird is that it's on BOTH
> > sides - both rear inner tires & wheel wells. Brake fluid is full and
> > looks fine, no drips underneath the jeep. I did hear a semi loud clunk
> > when driving this morning just as I got going and was turning sharply
> > out of the driveway. No leaks up front.
> >
> > Any ideas?



Mike Romain 09-05-2006 10:18 AM

Re: '86 Jeep CJ7 - need help
 
Usually that means you have filled the rear pumpkin with water. The
gear oil floats on top and presses at the back of the seals so it leaks
out and gets spun away by the tires. Your brake shoes are now likely
garbage too.

Is the high water vent on the rear axle clear and hooked up? Have you
crossed any water lately?

It is time to check the rear end fluid anyway. If it pours out the
hole, then you have water likely. The water raises the oil level. If
it looks like a purple milkshake, you have water for sure.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

mh51867 wrote:
>
> I have a 1986 Jeep CJ7 which I recently put a rebuilt engine into.
> Just today, there's a new problem that's got me stumped. The two rear
> tires have a greasy oily substance that is literally sprayed all over
> them (inner tires and inside the wheel wells). I've been underneath
> and don't see any leaks - this obviously happened while driving.
> There's a ton of oil. What is the most weird is that it's on BOTH
> sides - both rear inner tires & wheel wells. Brake fluid is full and
> looks fine, no drips underneath the jeep. I did hear a semi loud clunk
> when driving this morning just as I got going and was turning sharply
> out of the driveway. No leaks up front.
>
> Any ideas?


Mike Romain 09-05-2006 10:18 AM

Re: '86 Jeep CJ7 - need help
 
Usually that means you have filled the rear pumpkin with water. The
gear oil floats on top and presses at the back of the seals so it leaks
out and gets spun away by the tires. Your brake shoes are now likely
garbage too.

Is the high water vent on the rear axle clear and hooked up? Have you
crossed any water lately?

It is time to check the rear end fluid anyway. If it pours out the
hole, then you have water likely. The water raises the oil level. If
it looks like a purple milkshake, you have water for sure.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

mh51867 wrote:
>
> I have a 1986 Jeep CJ7 which I recently put a rebuilt engine into.
> Just today, there's a new problem that's got me stumped. The two rear
> tires have a greasy oily substance that is literally sprayed all over
> them (inner tires and inside the wheel wells). I've been underneath
> and don't see any leaks - this obviously happened while driving.
> There's a ton of oil. What is the most weird is that it's on BOTH
> sides - both rear inner tires & wheel wells. Brake fluid is full and
> looks fine, no drips underneath the jeep. I did hear a semi loud clunk
> when driving this morning just as I got going and was turning sharply
> out of the driveway. No leaks up front.
>
> Any ideas?


Mike Romain 09-05-2006 10:18 AM

Re: '86 Jeep CJ7 - need help
 
Usually that means you have filled the rear pumpkin with water. The
gear oil floats on top and presses at the back of the seals so it leaks
out and gets spun away by the tires. Your brake shoes are now likely
garbage too.

Is the high water vent on the rear axle clear and hooked up? Have you
crossed any water lately?

It is time to check the rear end fluid anyway. If it pours out the
hole, then you have water likely. The water raises the oil level. If
it looks like a purple milkshake, you have water for sure.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

mh51867 wrote:
>
> I have a 1986 Jeep CJ7 which I recently put a rebuilt engine into.
> Just today, there's a new problem that's got me stumped. The two rear
> tires have a greasy oily substance that is literally sprayed all over
> them (inner tires and inside the wheel wells). I've been underneath
> and don't see any leaks - this obviously happened while driving.
> There's a ton of oil. What is the most weird is that it's on BOTH
> sides - both rear inner tires & wheel wells. Brake fluid is full and
> looks fine, no drips underneath the jeep. I did hear a semi loud clunk
> when driving this morning just as I got going and was turning sharply
> out of the driveway. No leaks up front.
>
> Any ideas?



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