86 Cherokee overheating problem
Good evening,
I have a 1986 Jeep Cherokee Pioneer with a 2.46L 4-150 engine with an overheating problem. I just purchased it as a basket case and am trying to get it back on the road again. I found that there were two bad valves in the number two cylinder. The intake valve was burned through with a large grove across the face. The exhaust valve had gotten so hot that it had Cupped and sat too low in the seat. The head had a complete professional valve job and was shaved slightly to ensure it was not warped. After it was installed the engine ran rich and I found a hose was disconnected from the Mapp sensor. I also found that someone had installed the wrong O2 sensor and it was replaced with the correct one. The radiator has been flushed a couple of times and now seems clean. There is a slight leak in the radiator between the converter and muffler. It seems to idle fine but has a sluggish pickup in engine RPM. Also backfires once in a while and wants to get hot climbing even a small hill. Timing seems to be slightly higher than 12 BTDC. Have not checked the fuel filter as of yet. I cannot seem to find any information as to the correct hose connections that had to be removed when doing the valve job. All seem to be correct but cannot tell for sure. Can you advise any other areas to check and perhaps point me to a site where the hose diagram might be found? Thanks Don Smith --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.735 / Virus Database: 489 - Release Date: 8/11/04 |
Re: 86 Cherokee overheating problem
Take a good look at your radiator. The one on my 89 Cherokee 4.0L was rotted
real bad. A new one with more rows of tubes was like $135 at a local parts store. Yours, if original, most likely has one row being a four cylinder. Also could be the fan clutch if it has one. JoBo "Don Smith" <desmith@innercite.com> wrote in message news:10hs8sgt6ct7s01@corp.supernews.com... > Good evening, > I have a 1986 Jeep Cherokee Pioneer with a 2.46L 4-150 engine with an > overheating problem. I just purchased it as a basket case and am trying to > get it back on the road again. I found that there were two bad valves in > the number two cylinder. The intake valve was burned through with a large > grove across the face. The exhaust valve had gotten so hot that it had > Cupped and sat too low in the seat. The head had a complete professional > valve job and was shaved slightly to ensure it was not warped. After it was > installed the engine ran rich and I found a hose was disconnected from the > Mapp sensor. I also found that someone had installed the wrong O2 sensor > and it was replaced with the correct one. The radiator has been flushed a > couple of times and now seems clean. There is a slight leak in the radiator > between the converter and muffler. It seems to idle fine but has a > sluggish pickup in engine RPM. Also backfires once in a while and wants to > get hot climbing even a small hill. Timing seems to be slightly higher than > 12 BTDC. Have not checked the fuel filter as of yet. I cannot seem to find > any information as to the correct hose connections that had to be removed > when doing the valve job. All seem to be correct but cannot tell for sure. > Can you advise any other areas to check and perhaps point me to a site where > the hose diagram might be found? Thanks Don Smith > > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.735 / Virus Database: 489 - Release Date: 8/11/04 > > |
Re: 86 Cherokee overheating problem
Take a good look at your radiator. The one on my 89 Cherokee 4.0L was rotted
real bad. A new one with more rows of tubes was like $135 at a local parts store. Yours, if original, most likely has one row being a four cylinder. Also could be the fan clutch if it has one. JoBo "Don Smith" <desmith@innercite.com> wrote in message news:10hs8sgt6ct7s01@corp.supernews.com... > Good evening, > I have a 1986 Jeep Cherokee Pioneer with a 2.46L 4-150 engine with an > overheating problem. I just purchased it as a basket case and am trying to > get it back on the road again. I found that there were two bad valves in > the number two cylinder. The intake valve was burned through with a large > grove across the face. The exhaust valve had gotten so hot that it had > Cupped and sat too low in the seat. The head had a complete professional > valve job and was shaved slightly to ensure it was not warped. After it was > installed the engine ran rich and I found a hose was disconnected from the > Mapp sensor. I also found that someone had installed the wrong O2 sensor > and it was replaced with the correct one. The radiator has been flushed a > couple of times and now seems clean. There is a slight leak in the radiator > between the converter and muffler. It seems to idle fine but has a > sluggish pickup in engine RPM. Also backfires once in a while and wants to > get hot climbing even a small hill. Timing seems to be slightly higher than > 12 BTDC. Have not checked the fuel filter as of yet. I cannot seem to find > any information as to the correct hose connections that had to be removed > when doing the valve job. All seem to be correct but cannot tell for sure. > Can you advise any other areas to check and perhaps point me to a site where > the hose diagram might be found? Thanks Don Smith > > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.735 / Virus Database: 489 - Release Date: 8/11/04 > > |
Re: 86 Cherokee overheating problem
Take a good look at your radiator. The one on my 89 Cherokee 4.0L was rotted
real bad. A new one with more rows of tubes was like $135 at a local parts store. Yours, if original, most likely has one row being a four cylinder. Also could be the fan clutch if it has one. JoBo "Don Smith" <desmith@innercite.com> wrote in message news:10hs8sgt6ct7s01@corp.supernews.com... > Good evening, > I have a 1986 Jeep Cherokee Pioneer with a 2.46L 4-150 engine with an > overheating problem. I just purchased it as a basket case and am trying to > get it back on the road again. I found that there were two bad valves in > the number two cylinder. The intake valve was burned through with a large > grove across the face. The exhaust valve had gotten so hot that it had > Cupped and sat too low in the seat. The head had a complete professional > valve job and was shaved slightly to ensure it was not warped. After it was > installed the engine ran rich and I found a hose was disconnected from the > Mapp sensor. I also found that someone had installed the wrong O2 sensor > and it was replaced with the correct one. The radiator has been flushed a > couple of times and now seems clean. There is a slight leak in the radiator > between the converter and muffler. It seems to idle fine but has a > sluggish pickup in engine RPM. Also backfires once in a while and wants to > get hot climbing even a small hill. Timing seems to be slightly higher than > 12 BTDC. Have not checked the fuel filter as of yet. I cannot seem to find > any information as to the correct hose connections that had to be removed > when doing the valve job. All seem to be correct but cannot tell for sure. > Can you advise any other areas to check and perhaps point me to a site where > the hose diagram might be found? Thanks Don Smith > > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.735 / Virus Database: 489 - Release Date: 8/11/04 > > |
Re: 86 Cherokee overheating problem
Take a good look at your radiator. The one on my 89 Cherokee 4.0L was rotted
real bad. A new one with more rows of tubes was like $135 at a local parts store. Yours, if original, most likely has one row being a four cylinder. Also could be the fan clutch if it has one. JoBo "Don Smith" <desmith@innercite.com> wrote in message news:10hs8sgt6ct7s01@corp.supernews.com... > Good evening, > I have a 1986 Jeep Cherokee Pioneer with a 2.46L 4-150 engine with an > overheating problem. I just purchased it as a basket case and am trying to > get it back on the road again. I found that there were two bad valves in > the number two cylinder. The intake valve was burned through with a large > grove across the face. The exhaust valve had gotten so hot that it had > Cupped and sat too low in the seat. The head had a complete professional > valve job and was shaved slightly to ensure it was not warped. After it was > installed the engine ran rich and I found a hose was disconnected from the > Mapp sensor. I also found that someone had installed the wrong O2 sensor > and it was replaced with the correct one. The radiator has been flushed a > couple of times and now seems clean. There is a slight leak in the radiator > between the converter and muffler. It seems to idle fine but has a > sluggish pickup in engine RPM. Also backfires once in a while and wants to > get hot climbing even a small hill. Timing seems to be slightly higher than > 12 BTDC. Have not checked the fuel filter as of yet. I cannot seem to find > any information as to the correct hose connections that had to be removed > when doing the valve job. All seem to be correct but cannot tell for sure. > Can you advise any other areas to check and perhaps point me to a site where > the hose diagram might be found? Thanks Don Smith > > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.735 / Virus Database: 489 - Release Date: 8/11/04 > > |
Re: 86 Cherokee overheating problem
I am thinking fan clutch as well on something that age.
If it is hot and you shut it down, the fan should stop almost instantly. If it keeps on spinning, the clutch is done. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Jo Bo wrote: > > Take a good look at your radiator. The one on my 89 Cherokee 4.0L was rotted > real bad. A new one with more rows of tubes was like $135 at a local parts > store. Yours, if original, most likely has one row being a four cylinder. Also > could be the fan clutch if it has one. > > JoBo > > "Don Smith" <desmith@innercite.com> wrote in message > news:10hs8sgt6ct7s01@corp.supernews.com... > > Good evening, > > I have a 1986 Jeep Cherokee Pioneer with a 2.46L 4-150 engine with an > > overheating problem. I just purchased it as a basket case and am trying to > > get it back on the road again. I found that there were two bad valves in > > the number two cylinder. The intake valve was burned through with a large > > grove across the face. The exhaust valve had gotten so hot that it had > > Cupped and sat too low in the seat. The head had a complete professional > > valve job and was shaved slightly to ensure it was not warped. After it was > > installed the engine ran rich and I found a hose was disconnected from the > > Mapp sensor. I also found that someone had installed the wrong O2 sensor > > and it was replaced with the correct one. The radiator has been flushed a > > couple of times and now seems clean. There is a slight leak in the radiator > > between the converter and muffler. It seems to idle fine but has a > > sluggish pickup in engine RPM. Also backfires once in a while and wants to > > get hot climbing even a small hill. Timing seems to be slightly higher than > > 12 BTDC. Have not checked the fuel filter as of yet. I cannot seem to find > > any information as to the correct hose connections that had to be removed > > when doing the valve job. All seem to be correct but cannot tell for sure. > > Can you advise any other areas to check and perhaps point me to a site where > > the hose diagram might be found? Thanks Don Smith > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.735 / Virus Database: 489 - Release Date: 8/11/04 > > > > |
Re: 86 Cherokee overheating problem
I am thinking fan clutch as well on something that age.
If it is hot and you shut it down, the fan should stop almost instantly. If it keeps on spinning, the clutch is done. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Jo Bo wrote: > > Take a good look at your radiator. The one on my 89 Cherokee 4.0L was rotted > real bad. A new one with more rows of tubes was like $135 at a local parts > store. Yours, if original, most likely has one row being a four cylinder. Also > could be the fan clutch if it has one. > > JoBo > > "Don Smith" <desmith@innercite.com> wrote in message > news:10hs8sgt6ct7s01@corp.supernews.com... > > Good evening, > > I have a 1986 Jeep Cherokee Pioneer with a 2.46L 4-150 engine with an > > overheating problem. I just purchased it as a basket case and am trying to > > get it back on the road again. I found that there were two bad valves in > > the number two cylinder. The intake valve was burned through with a large > > grove across the face. The exhaust valve had gotten so hot that it had > > Cupped and sat too low in the seat. The head had a complete professional > > valve job and was shaved slightly to ensure it was not warped. After it was > > installed the engine ran rich and I found a hose was disconnected from the > > Mapp sensor. I also found that someone had installed the wrong O2 sensor > > and it was replaced with the correct one. The radiator has been flushed a > > couple of times and now seems clean. There is a slight leak in the radiator > > between the converter and muffler. It seems to idle fine but has a > > sluggish pickup in engine RPM. Also backfires once in a while and wants to > > get hot climbing even a small hill. Timing seems to be slightly higher than > > 12 BTDC. Have not checked the fuel filter as of yet. I cannot seem to find > > any information as to the correct hose connections that had to be removed > > when doing the valve job. All seem to be correct but cannot tell for sure. > > Can you advise any other areas to check and perhaps point me to a site where > > the hose diagram might be found? Thanks Don Smith > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.735 / Virus Database: 489 - Release Date: 8/11/04 > > > > |
Re: 86 Cherokee overheating problem
I am thinking fan clutch as well on something that age.
If it is hot and you shut it down, the fan should stop almost instantly. If it keeps on spinning, the clutch is done. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Jo Bo wrote: > > Take a good look at your radiator. The one on my 89 Cherokee 4.0L was rotted > real bad. A new one with more rows of tubes was like $135 at a local parts > store. Yours, if original, most likely has one row being a four cylinder. Also > could be the fan clutch if it has one. > > JoBo > > "Don Smith" <desmith@innercite.com> wrote in message > news:10hs8sgt6ct7s01@corp.supernews.com... > > Good evening, > > I have a 1986 Jeep Cherokee Pioneer with a 2.46L 4-150 engine with an > > overheating problem. I just purchased it as a basket case and am trying to > > get it back on the road again. I found that there were two bad valves in > > the number two cylinder. The intake valve was burned through with a large > > grove across the face. The exhaust valve had gotten so hot that it had > > Cupped and sat too low in the seat. The head had a complete professional > > valve job and was shaved slightly to ensure it was not warped. After it was > > installed the engine ran rich and I found a hose was disconnected from the > > Mapp sensor. I also found that someone had installed the wrong O2 sensor > > and it was replaced with the correct one. The radiator has been flushed a > > couple of times and now seems clean. There is a slight leak in the radiator > > between the converter and muffler. It seems to idle fine but has a > > sluggish pickup in engine RPM. Also backfires once in a while and wants to > > get hot climbing even a small hill. Timing seems to be slightly higher than > > 12 BTDC. Have not checked the fuel filter as of yet. I cannot seem to find > > any information as to the correct hose connections that had to be removed > > when doing the valve job. All seem to be correct but cannot tell for sure. > > Can you advise any other areas to check and perhaps point me to a site where > > the hose diagram might be found? Thanks Don Smith > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.735 / Virus Database: 489 - Release Date: 8/11/04 > > > > |
Re: 86 Cherokee overheating problem
I am thinking fan clutch as well on something that age.
If it is hot and you shut it down, the fan should stop almost instantly. If it keeps on spinning, the clutch is done. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Jo Bo wrote: > > Take a good look at your radiator. The one on my 89 Cherokee 4.0L was rotted > real bad. A new one with more rows of tubes was like $135 at a local parts > store. Yours, if original, most likely has one row being a four cylinder. Also > could be the fan clutch if it has one. > > JoBo > > "Don Smith" <desmith@innercite.com> wrote in message > news:10hs8sgt6ct7s01@corp.supernews.com... > > Good evening, > > I have a 1986 Jeep Cherokee Pioneer with a 2.46L 4-150 engine with an > > overheating problem. I just purchased it as a basket case and am trying to > > get it back on the road again. I found that there were two bad valves in > > the number two cylinder. The intake valve was burned through with a large > > grove across the face. The exhaust valve had gotten so hot that it had > > Cupped and sat too low in the seat. The head had a complete professional > > valve job and was shaved slightly to ensure it was not warped. After it was > > installed the engine ran rich and I found a hose was disconnected from the > > Mapp sensor. I also found that someone had installed the wrong O2 sensor > > and it was replaced with the correct one. The radiator has been flushed a > > couple of times and now seems clean. There is a slight leak in the radiator > > between the converter and muffler. It seems to idle fine but has a > > sluggish pickup in engine RPM. Also backfires once in a while and wants to > > get hot climbing even a small hill. Timing seems to be slightly higher than > > 12 BTDC. Have not checked the fuel filter as of yet. I cannot seem to find > > any information as to the correct hose connections that had to be removed > > when doing the valve job. All seem to be correct but cannot tell for sure. > > Can you advise any other areas to check and perhaps point me to a site where > > the hose diagram might be found? Thanks Don Smith > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.735 / Virus Database: 489 - Release Date: 8/11/04 > > > > |
Re: 86 Cherokee overheating problem
Thank you JoBo and Mike for your input. Still working on the problem of
overheating. Also seems to not getting full power under load. It Bogs down going up a hill and seems to have problems during the lower range of the Rpms. The Fan clutch seems to be fine. Has the same stiffness in it when hot as when cold. I did notice that the water seemed to flow into the radiator faster than out when revving up the engine a bit. It came up thru the cap every time I increased the engine's Rpms It is a one row radiator but looks real clean inside and a small wire easily passes thru the tubes I can get to under the cap area. Tried to ask the Jeep Creep for help but so far he has not responded. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Don "Don Smith" <desmith@innercite.com> wrote in message news:10hs8sgt6ct7s01@corp.supernews.com... > Good evening, > I have a 1986 Jeep Cherokee Pioneer with a 2.46L 4-150 engine with an > overheating problem. I just purchased it as a basket case and am trying to > get it back on the road again. I found that there were two bad valves in > the number two cylinder. The intake valve was burned through with a large > grove across the face. The exhaust valve had gotten so hot that it had > Cupped and sat too low in the seat. The head had a complete professional > valve job and was shaved slightly to ensure it was not warped. After it was > installed the engine ran rich and I found a hose was disconnected from the > Mapp sensor. I also found that someone had installed the wrong O2 sensor > and it was replaced with the correct one. The radiator has been flushed a > couple of times and now seems clean. There is a slight leak in the radiator > between the converter and muffler. It seems to idle fine but has a > sluggish pickup in engine RPM. Also backfires once in a while and wants to > get hot climbing even a small hill. Timing seems to be slightly higher than > 12 BTDC. Have not checked the fuel filter as of yet. I cannot seem to find > any information as to the correct hose connections that had to be removed > when doing the valve job. All seem to be correct but cannot tell for sure. > Can you advise any other areas to check and perhaps point me to a site where > the hose diagram might be found? Thanks Don Smith > > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.735 / Virus Database: 489 - Release Date: 8/11/04 > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.735 / Virus Database: 489 - Release Date: 8/12/04 |
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