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Clap Trap 03-13-2005 12:32 PM

'82 CJ steering shaft replacement question
 
Can the lower steering shaft (power steering, no tilt) be replaced
without removing the column - ie, everything is done under the hood only?

Michael White 03-13-2005 10:27 PM

Re: '82 CJ steering shaft replacement question
 
Clap Trap (nowhere@the.net) wrote on Sunday 13 March 2005 11:32 am:

> Can the lower steering shaft (power steering, no tilt) be replaced
> without removing the column - ie, everything is done under the hood only?


Yes - sort of. You'll have to loosen the brackets that hold the steering
column in place, but you won't have to actually remove the steering column.

Something to look out for - the power steering gearbox end of the
replacement steering shaft was turned around 180 degrees when I received
mine. It's an easy thing to fix by flipping the power steering gearbox end
of the steering shaft around 180 degrees. If you put it on wrong, your
steering wheel will be upside down.
--
Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer, 1891

Michael White 03-13-2005 10:27 PM

Re: '82 CJ steering shaft replacement question
 
Clap Trap (nowhere@the.net) wrote on Sunday 13 March 2005 11:32 am:

> Can the lower steering shaft (power steering, no tilt) be replaced
> without removing the column - ie, everything is done under the hood only?


Yes - sort of. You'll have to loosen the brackets that hold the steering
column in place, but you won't have to actually remove the steering column.

Something to look out for - the power steering gearbox end of the
replacement steering shaft was turned around 180 degrees when I received
mine. It's an easy thing to fix by flipping the power steering gearbox end
of the steering shaft around 180 degrees. If you put it on wrong, your
steering wheel will be upside down.
--
Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer, 1891

Michael White 03-13-2005 10:27 PM

Re: '82 CJ steering shaft replacement question
 
Clap Trap (nowhere@the.net) wrote on Sunday 13 March 2005 11:32 am:

> Can the lower steering shaft (power steering, no tilt) be replaced
> without removing the column - ie, everything is done under the hood only?


Yes - sort of. You'll have to loosen the brackets that hold the steering
column in place, but you won't have to actually remove the steering column.

Something to look out for - the power steering gearbox end of the
replacement steering shaft was turned around 180 degrees when I received
mine. It's an easy thing to fix by flipping the power steering gearbox end
of the steering shaft around 180 degrees. If you put it on wrong, your
steering wheel will be upside down.
--
Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer, 1891

Clap Trap 03-14-2005 06:33 AM

Re: '82 CJ steering shaft replacement question
 
Thanks for the info. I am glad I won't have to take it all out. The
steering wheel position won't be a problem for me, the wheel itself is
very easy to remove and reposition on mine.

Clap Trap 03-14-2005 06:33 AM

Re: '82 CJ steering shaft replacement question
 
Thanks for the info. I am glad I won't have to take it all out. The
steering wheel position won't be a problem for me, the wheel itself is
very easy to remove and reposition on mine.

Clap Trap 03-14-2005 06:33 AM

Re: '82 CJ steering shaft replacement question
 
Thanks for the info. I am glad I won't have to take it all out. The
steering wheel position won't be a problem for me, the wheel itself is
very easy to remove and reposition on mine.

Mike Romain 03-14-2005 04:34 PM

Re: '82 CJ steering shaft replacement question
 
You have to either loosen the column or drop the gear box to get it out.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Clap Trap wrote:
>
> Can the lower steering shaft (power steering, no tilt) be replaced
> without removing the column - ie, everything is done under the hood only?


Mike Romain 03-14-2005 04:34 PM

Re: '82 CJ steering shaft replacement question
 
You have to either loosen the column or drop the gear box to get it out.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Clap Trap wrote:
>
> Can the lower steering shaft (power steering, no tilt) be replaced
> without removing the column - ie, everything is done under the hood only?


Mike Romain 03-14-2005 04:34 PM

Re: '82 CJ steering shaft replacement question
 
You have to either loosen the column or drop the gear box to get it out.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Clap Trap wrote:
>
> Can the lower steering shaft (power steering, no tilt) be replaced
> without removing the column - ie, everything is done under the hood only?


Jumpin' Jiminy 03-14-2005 07:14 PM

Re: '82 CJ steering shaft replacement question
 
On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 11:32:09 -0600, Clap Trap <nowhere@the.net> wrote:

>Can the lower steering shaft (power steering, no tilt) be replaced
>without removing the column - ie, everything is done under the hood only?


I was able to work mine loose but I had to loosen all the bolts in the
cab before I could get enough clearance to free the lower end.
Mine was 85 cj tilt & PS

JJ

Jumpin' Jiminy 03-14-2005 07:14 PM

Re: '82 CJ steering shaft replacement question
 
On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 11:32:09 -0600, Clap Trap <nowhere@the.net> wrote:

>Can the lower steering shaft (power steering, no tilt) be replaced
>without removing the column - ie, everything is done under the hood only?


I was able to work mine loose but I had to loosen all the bolts in the
cab before I could get enough clearance to free the lower end.
Mine was 85 cj tilt & PS

JJ

Jumpin' Jiminy 03-14-2005 07:14 PM

Re: '82 CJ steering shaft replacement question
 
On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 11:32:09 -0600, Clap Trap <nowhere@the.net> wrote:

>Can the lower steering shaft (power steering, no tilt) be replaced
>without removing the column - ie, everything is done under the hood only?


I was able to work mine loose but I had to loosen all the bolts in the
cab before I could get enough clearance to free the lower end.
Mine was 85 cj tilt & PS

JJ

Jeff Strickland 03-15-2005 10:47 PM

Re: '82 CJ steering shaft replacement question
 
Mike,
I have been inspired to look into replacing the seals on the steering column
where it goes into the steering box. All I need do is remove the bolts that
hold the column to the bottom of the dash board and take the "link shaft"
out? Once the link is out, this is the shaft that goes from the end of the
steering column proper to the steering box, then I can take the old seals
out and put new seals in. Right?

I set about working on the steering box a long time ago, but the flare nuts
for the hoses were too tight and my flare wrench ------ open and slipped. To
get the steering box off (that was the direction I thought I had to go), I
have to remove the fenders and the grill to get a good angle on the flare
nuts that hold the hoses. Since the fenders and grill are in the way, I have
elected to carry a bottle of power steering fluid with me at all times, or
most of them anyway.

If I can simply drop the column and pull the link shaft, then work on the
seals with the steering box in place, perhaps I can finally wash the oil pan
that I have to keep under my Jeep. The Mrs. will be overjoyed ...






"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4236037E.687E603E@sympatico.ca...
> You have to either loosen the column or drop the gear box to get it out.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Clap Trap wrote:
> >
> > Can the lower steering shaft (power steering, no tilt) be replaced
> > without removing the column - ie, everything is done under the hood

only?



Jeff Strickland 03-15-2005 10:47 PM

Re: '82 CJ steering shaft replacement question
 
Mike,
I have been inspired to look into replacing the seals on the steering column
where it goes into the steering box. All I need do is remove the bolts that
hold the column to the bottom of the dash board and take the "link shaft"
out? Once the link is out, this is the shaft that goes from the end of the
steering column proper to the steering box, then I can take the old seals
out and put new seals in. Right?

I set about working on the steering box a long time ago, but the flare nuts
for the hoses were too tight and my flare wrench ------ open and slipped. To
get the steering box off (that was the direction I thought I had to go), I
have to remove the fenders and the grill to get a good angle on the flare
nuts that hold the hoses. Since the fenders and grill are in the way, I have
elected to carry a bottle of power steering fluid with me at all times, or
most of them anyway.

If I can simply drop the column and pull the link shaft, then work on the
seals with the steering box in place, perhaps I can finally wash the oil pan
that I have to keep under my Jeep. The Mrs. will be overjoyed ...






"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4236037E.687E603E@sympatico.ca...
> You have to either loosen the column or drop the gear box to get it out.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Clap Trap wrote:
> >
> > Can the lower steering shaft (power steering, no tilt) be replaced
> > without removing the column - ie, everything is done under the hood

only?



Jeff Strickland 03-15-2005 10:47 PM

Re: '82 CJ steering shaft replacement question
 
Mike,
I have been inspired to look into replacing the seals on the steering column
where it goes into the steering box. All I need do is remove the bolts that
hold the column to the bottom of the dash board and take the "link shaft"
out? Once the link is out, this is the shaft that goes from the end of the
steering column proper to the steering box, then I can take the old seals
out and put new seals in. Right?

I set about working on the steering box a long time ago, but the flare nuts
for the hoses were too tight and my flare wrench ------ open and slipped. To
get the steering box off (that was the direction I thought I had to go), I
have to remove the fenders and the grill to get a good angle on the flare
nuts that hold the hoses. Since the fenders and grill are in the way, I have
elected to carry a bottle of power steering fluid with me at all times, or
most of them anyway.

If I can simply drop the column and pull the link shaft, then work on the
seals with the steering box in place, perhaps I can finally wash the oil pan
that I have to keep under my Jeep. The Mrs. will be overjoyed ...






"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4236037E.687E603E@sympatico.ca...
> You have to either loosen the column or drop the gear box to get it out.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Clap Trap wrote:
> >
> > Can the lower steering shaft (power steering, no tilt) be replaced
> > without removing the column - ie, everything is done under the hood

only?



L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 03-15-2005 11:55 PM

Re: '82 CJ steering shaft replacement question
 
http://www.----------.com/97TJpowersteering.pdf
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> Mike,
> I have been inspired to look into replacing the seals on the steering column
> where it goes into the steering box. All I need do is remove the bolts that
> hold the column to the bottom of the dash board and take the "link shaft"
> out? Once the link is out, this is the shaft that goes from the end of the
> steering column proper to the steering box, then I can take the old seals
> out and put new seals in. Right?
>
> I set about working on the steering box a long time ago, but the flare nuts
> for the hoses were too tight and my flare wrench ------ open and slipped. To
> get the steering box off (that was the direction I thought I had to go), I
> have to remove the fenders and the grill to get a good angle on the flare
> nuts that hold the hoses. Since the fenders and grill are in the way, I have
> elected to carry a bottle of power steering fluid with me at all times, or
> most of them anyway.
>
> If I can simply drop the column and pull the link shaft, then work on the
> seals with the steering box in place, perhaps I can finally wash the oil pan
> that I have to keep under my Jeep. The Mrs. will be overjoyed ...


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 03-15-2005 11:55 PM

Re: '82 CJ steering shaft replacement question
 
http://www.----------.com/97TJpowersteering.pdf
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> Mike,
> I have been inspired to look into replacing the seals on the steering column
> where it goes into the steering box. All I need do is remove the bolts that
> hold the column to the bottom of the dash board and take the "link shaft"
> out? Once the link is out, this is the shaft that goes from the end of the
> steering column proper to the steering box, then I can take the old seals
> out and put new seals in. Right?
>
> I set about working on the steering box a long time ago, but the flare nuts
> for the hoses were too tight and my flare wrench ------ open and slipped. To
> get the steering box off (that was the direction I thought I had to go), I
> have to remove the fenders and the grill to get a good angle on the flare
> nuts that hold the hoses. Since the fenders and grill are in the way, I have
> elected to carry a bottle of power steering fluid with me at all times, or
> most of them anyway.
>
> If I can simply drop the column and pull the link shaft, then work on the
> seals with the steering box in place, perhaps I can finally wash the oil pan
> that I have to keep under my Jeep. The Mrs. will be overjoyed ...


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 03-15-2005 11:55 PM

Re: '82 CJ steering shaft replacement question
 
http://www.----------.com/97TJpowersteering.pdf
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> Mike,
> I have been inspired to look into replacing the seals on the steering column
> where it goes into the steering box. All I need do is remove the bolts that
> hold the column to the bottom of the dash board and take the "link shaft"
> out? Once the link is out, this is the shaft that goes from the end of the
> steering column proper to the steering box, then I can take the old seals
> out and put new seals in. Right?
>
> I set about working on the steering box a long time ago, but the flare nuts
> for the hoses were too tight and my flare wrench ------ open and slipped. To
> get the steering box off (that was the direction I thought I had to go), I
> have to remove the fenders and the grill to get a good angle on the flare
> nuts that hold the hoses. Since the fenders and grill are in the way, I have
> elected to carry a bottle of power steering fluid with me at all times, or
> most of them anyway.
>
> If I can simply drop the column and pull the link shaft, then work on the
> seals with the steering box in place, perhaps I can finally wash the oil pan
> that I have to keep under my Jeep. The Mrs. will be overjoyed ...


Mike Romain 03-16-2005 09:33 AM

Re: '82 CJ steering shaft replacement question
 
I usually leave everything hooked to the box and just lower the box down
and tilt to do the seal.

Your mileage may vary but I think it is easier to drop the box down and
have room than pull the top column out and try to do the seal with the
box in place. I think the rad would have to come out to have room.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> Mike,
> I have been inspired to look into replacing the seals on the steering column
> where it goes into the steering box. All I need do is remove the bolts that
> hold the column to the bottom of the dash board and take the "link shaft"
> out? Once the link is out, this is the shaft that goes from the end of the
> steering column proper to the steering box, then I can take the old seals
> out and put new seals in. Right?
>
> I set about working on the steering box a long time ago, but the flare nuts
> for the hoses were too tight and my flare wrench ------ open and slipped. To
> get the steering box off (that was the direction I thought I had to go), I
> have to remove the fenders and the grill to get a good angle on the flare
> nuts that hold the hoses. Since the fenders and grill are in the way, I have
> elected to carry a bottle of power steering fluid with me at all times, or
> most of them anyway.
>
> If I can simply drop the column and pull the link shaft, then work on the
> seals with the steering box in place, perhaps I can finally wash the oil pan
> that I have to keep under my Jeep. The Mrs. will be overjoyed ...
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4236037E.687E603E@sympatico.ca...
> > You have to either loosen the column or drop the gear box to get it out.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Clap Trap wrote:
> > >
> > > Can the lower steering shaft (power steering, no tilt) be replaced
> > > without removing the column - ie, everything is done under the hood

> only?


Mike Romain 03-16-2005 09:33 AM

Re: '82 CJ steering shaft replacement question
 
I usually leave everything hooked to the box and just lower the box down
and tilt to do the seal.

Your mileage may vary but I think it is easier to drop the box down and
have room than pull the top column out and try to do the seal with the
box in place. I think the rad would have to come out to have room.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> Mike,
> I have been inspired to look into replacing the seals on the steering column
> where it goes into the steering box. All I need do is remove the bolts that
> hold the column to the bottom of the dash board and take the "link shaft"
> out? Once the link is out, this is the shaft that goes from the end of the
> steering column proper to the steering box, then I can take the old seals
> out and put new seals in. Right?
>
> I set about working on the steering box a long time ago, but the flare nuts
> for the hoses were too tight and my flare wrench ------ open and slipped. To
> get the steering box off (that was the direction I thought I had to go), I
> have to remove the fenders and the grill to get a good angle on the flare
> nuts that hold the hoses. Since the fenders and grill are in the way, I have
> elected to carry a bottle of power steering fluid with me at all times, or
> most of them anyway.
>
> If I can simply drop the column and pull the link shaft, then work on the
> seals with the steering box in place, perhaps I can finally wash the oil pan
> that I have to keep under my Jeep. The Mrs. will be overjoyed ...
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4236037E.687E603E@sympatico.ca...
> > You have to either loosen the column or drop the gear box to get it out.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Clap Trap wrote:
> > >
> > > Can the lower steering shaft (power steering, no tilt) be replaced
> > > without removing the column - ie, everything is done under the hood

> only?


Mike Romain 03-16-2005 09:33 AM

Re: '82 CJ steering shaft replacement question
 
I usually leave everything hooked to the box and just lower the box down
and tilt to do the seal.

Your mileage may vary but I think it is easier to drop the box down and
have room than pull the top column out and try to do the seal with the
box in place. I think the rad would have to come out to have room.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> Mike,
> I have been inspired to look into replacing the seals on the steering column
> where it goes into the steering box. All I need do is remove the bolts that
> hold the column to the bottom of the dash board and take the "link shaft"
> out? Once the link is out, this is the shaft that goes from the end of the
> steering column proper to the steering box, then I can take the old seals
> out and put new seals in. Right?
>
> I set about working on the steering box a long time ago, but the flare nuts
> for the hoses were too tight and my flare wrench ------ open and slipped. To
> get the steering box off (that was the direction I thought I had to go), I
> have to remove the fenders and the grill to get a good angle on the flare
> nuts that hold the hoses. Since the fenders and grill are in the way, I have
> elected to carry a bottle of power steering fluid with me at all times, or
> most of them anyway.
>
> If I can simply drop the column and pull the link shaft, then work on the
> seals with the steering box in place, perhaps I can finally wash the oil pan
> that I have to keep under my Jeep. The Mrs. will be overjoyed ...
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4236037E.687E603E@sympatico.ca...
> > You have to either loosen the column or drop the gear box to get it out.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Clap Trap wrote:
> > >
> > > Can the lower steering shaft (power steering, no tilt) be replaced
> > > without removing the column - ie, everything is done under the hood

> only?


Jeff Scherb 03-19-2005 06:44 AM

Re: '82 CJ steering shaft replacement question
 
If your current shaft is junk, then you can remove it without moving the
main steering column.

I cut mine in half with a reciprocating saw and it came right out, then my
new Borgeson shaft had enough adjustment in it so it could be installed
without moving the steering column

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4236037E.687E603E@sympatico.ca...
> You have to either loosen the column or drop the gear box to get it out.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Clap Trap wrote:
>>
>> Can the lower steering shaft (power steering, no tilt) be replaced
>> without removing the column - ie, everything is done under the hood only?




Jeff Scherb 03-19-2005 06:44 AM

Re: '82 CJ steering shaft replacement question
 
If your current shaft is junk, then you can remove it without moving the
main steering column.

I cut mine in half with a reciprocating saw and it came right out, then my
new Borgeson shaft had enough adjustment in it so it could be installed
without moving the steering column

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4236037E.687E603E@sympatico.ca...
> You have to either loosen the column or drop the gear box to get it out.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Clap Trap wrote:
>>
>> Can the lower steering shaft (power steering, no tilt) be replaced
>> without removing the column - ie, everything is done under the hood only?




Jeff Scherb 03-19-2005 06:44 AM

Re: '82 CJ steering shaft replacement question
 
If your current shaft is junk, then you can remove it without moving the
main steering column.

I cut mine in half with a reciprocating saw and it came right out, then my
new Borgeson shaft had enough adjustment in it so it could be installed
without moving the steering column

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4236037E.687E603E@sympatico.ca...
> You have to either loosen the column or drop the gear box to get it out.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Clap Trap wrote:
>>
>> Can the lower steering shaft (power steering, no tilt) be replaced
>> without removing the column - ie, everything is done under the hood only?





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