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Rick Sink 11-29-2004 10:51 PM

6 to V8 conversion
 
My son's 90 YJ has the 4.2L six with 5 speed. Is there such a thing as
swapping the 6 out for a V8?...and still meeting emissions laws? Could
the trans/clutch stay...or would the V8 require a new trans? Any way
to get a Chevy small block in it, with emissions equipment?

Rick

HomeBrewer 11-30-2004 06:08 AM

Re: 6 to V8 conversion
 
Emissions laws depend on the state. most states don't like it unless it's a
newer v8 than the vehicle. The t5 won't last behind a v8. If you go with a
amc v8 I would recommend a t176 or a t18.

--
_____________________
HomeBrewer
76-81-85CJ7
http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
All in one Jeep

"Rick Sink" <ricksink@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:41abefb7.695475468@news.east.earthlink.net...
> My son's 90 YJ has the 4.2L six with 5 speed. Is there such a thing as
> swapping the 6 out for a V8?...and still meeting emissions laws? Could
> the trans/clutch stay...or would the V8 require a new trans? Any way
> to get a Chevy small block in it, with emissions equipment?
>
> Rick




HomeBrewer 11-30-2004 06:08 AM

Re: 6 to V8 conversion
 
Emissions laws depend on the state. most states don't like it unless it's a
newer v8 than the vehicle. The t5 won't last behind a v8. If you go with a
amc v8 I would recommend a t176 or a t18.

--
_____________________
HomeBrewer
76-81-85CJ7
http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
All in one Jeep

"Rick Sink" <ricksink@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:41abefb7.695475468@news.east.earthlink.net...
> My son's 90 YJ has the 4.2L six with 5 speed. Is there such a thing as
> swapping the 6 out for a V8?...and still meeting emissions laws? Could
> the trans/clutch stay...or would the V8 require a new trans? Any way
> to get a Chevy small block in it, with emissions equipment?
>
> Rick




HomeBrewer 11-30-2004 06:08 AM

Re: 6 to V8 conversion
 
Emissions laws depend on the state. most states don't like it unless it's a
newer v8 than the vehicle. The t5 won't last behind a v8. If you go with a
amc v8 I would recommend a t176 or a t18.

--
_____________________
HomeBrewer
76-81-85CJ7
http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
All in one Jeep

"Rick Sink" <ricksink@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:41abefb7.695475468@news.east.earthlink.net...
> My son's 90 YJ has the 4.2L six with 5 speed. Is there such a thing as
> swapping the 6 out for a V8?...and still meeting emissions laws? Could
> the trans/clutch stay...or would the V8 require a new trans? Any way
> to get a Chevy small block in it, with emissions equipment?
>
> Rick




William Oliveri 11-30-2004 11:49 AM

Re: 6 to V8 conversion
 
Didn't I hear that some flavor of a T5 was in the Mustang 5.0s?

What's the diff in that case?



"HomeBrewer" <85cj7XXX@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3132m7F36muehU1@uni-berlin.de...
> Emissions laws depend on the state. most states don't like it unless it's

a
> newer v8 than the vehicle. The t5 won't last behind a v8. If you go with a
> amc v8 I would recommend a t176 or a t18.
>
> --
> _____________________
> HomeBrewer
> 76-81-85CJ7
> http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
> All in one Jeep
>
> "Rick Sink" <ricksink@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:41abefb7.695475468@news.east.earthlink.net...
> > My son's 90 YJ has the 4.2L six with 5 speed. Is there such a thing as
> > swapping the 6 out for a V8?...and still meeting emissions laws? Could
> > the trans/clutch stay...or would the V8 require a new trans? Any way
> > to get a Chevy small block in it, with emissions equipment?
> >
> > Rick

>
>




William Oliveri 11-30-2004 11:49 AM

Re: 6 to V8 conversion
 
Didn't I hear that some flavor of a T5 was in the Mustang 5.0s?

What's the diff in that case?



"HomeBrewer" <85cj7XXX@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3132m7F36muehU1@uni-berlin.de...
> Emissions laws depend on the state. most states don't like it unless it's

a
> newer v8 than the vehicle. The t5 won't last behind a v8. If you go with a
> amc v8 I would recommend a t176 or a t18.
>
> --
> _____________________
> HomeBrewer
> 76-81-85CJ7
> http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
> All in one Jeep
>
> "Rick Sink" <ricksink@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:41abefb7.695475468@news.east.earthlink.net...
> > My son's 90 YJ has the 4.2L six with 5 speed. Is there such a thing as
> > swapping the 6 out for a V8?...and still meeting emissions laws? Could
> > the trans/clutch stay...or would the V8 require a new trans? Any way
> > to get a Chevy small block in it, with emissions equipment?
> >
> > Rick

>
>




William Oliveri 11-30-2004 11:49 AM

Re: 6 to V8 conversion
 
Didn't I hear that some flavor of a T5 was in the Mustang 5.0s?

What's the diff in that case?



"HomeBrewer" <85cj7XXX@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3132m7F36muehU1@uni-berlin.de...
> Emissions laws depend on the state. most states don't like it unless it's

a
> newer v8 than the vehicle. The t5 won't last behind a v8. If you go with a
> amc v8 I would recommend a t176 or a t18.
>
> --
> _____________________
> HomeBrewer
> 76-81-85CJ7
> http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
> All in one Jeep
>
> "Rick Sink" <ricksink@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:41abefb7.695475468@news.east.earthlink.net...
> > My son's 90 YJ has the 4.2L six with 5 speed. Is there such a thing as
> > swapping the 6 out for a V8?...and still meeting emissions laws? Could
> > the trans/clutch stay...or would the V8 require a new trans? Any way
> > to get a Chevy small block in it, with emissions equipment?
> >
> > Rick

>
>




Mike Romain 11-30-2004 01:00 PM

Re: 6 to V8 conversion
 
Yup, they put the same Borg Warner 'World Class' T5 in the later CJ's.

The YJ has that french tranny I think, for sure not a T5.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

William Oliveri wrote:
>
> Didn't I hear that some flavor of a T5 was in the Mustang 5.0s?
>
> What's the diff in that case?
>
> "HomeBrewer" <85cj7XXX@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:3132m7F36muehU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > Emissions laws depend on the state. most states don't like it unless it's

> a
> > newer v8 than the vehicle. The t5 won't last behind a v8. If you go with a
> > amc v8 I would recommend a t176 or a t18.
> >
> > --
> > _____________________
> > HomeBrewer
> > 76-81-85CJ7
> > http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
> > All in one Jeep
> >
> > "Rick Sink" <ricksink@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> > news:41abefb7.695475468@news.east.earthlink.net...
> > > My son's 90 YJ has the 4.2L six with 5 speed. Is there such a thing as
> > > swapping the 6 out for a V8?...and still meeting emissions laws? Could
> > > the trans/clutch stay...or would the V8 require a new trans? Any way
> > > to get a Chevy small block in it, with emissions equipment?
> > >
> > > Rick

> >
> >


Mike Romain 11-30-2004 01:00 PM

Re: 6 to V8 conversion
 
Yup, they put the same Borg Warner 'World Class' T5 in the later CJ's.

The YJ has that french tranny I think, for sure not a T5.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

William Oliveri wrote:
>
> Didn't I hear that some flavor of a T5 was in the Mustang 5.0s?
>
> What's the diff in that case?
>
> "HomeBrewer" <85cj7XXX@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:3132m7F36muehU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > Emissions laws depend on the state. most states don't like it unless it's

> a
> > newer v8 than the vehicle. The t5 won't last behind a v8. If you go with a
> > amc v8 I would recommend a t176 or a t18.
> >
> > --
> > _____________________
> > HomeBrewer
> > 76-81-85CJ7
> > http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
> > All in one Jeep
> >
> > "Rick Sink" <ricksink@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> > news:41abefb7.695475468@news.east.earthlink.net...
> > > My son's 90 YJ has the 4.2L six with 5 speed. Is there such a thing as
> > > swapping the 6 out for a V8?...and still meeting emissions laws? Could
> > > the trans/clutch stay...or would the V8 require a new trans? Any way
> > > to get a Chevy small block in it, with emissions equipment?
> > >
> > > Rick

> >
> >


Mike Romain 11-30-2004 01:00 PM

Re: 6 to V8 conversion
 
Yup, they put the same Borg Warner 'World Class' T5 in the later CJ's.

The YJ has that french tranny I think, for sure not a T5.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

William Oliveri wrote:
>
> Didn't I hear that some flavor of a T5 was in the Mustang 5.0s?
>
> What's the diff in that case?
>
> "HomeBrewer" <85cj7XXX@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:3132m7F36muehU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > Emissions laws depend on the state. most states don't like it unless it's

> a
> > newer v8 than the vehicle. The t5 won't last behind a v8. If you go with a
> > amc v8 I would recommend a t176 or a t18.
> >
> > --
> > _____________________
> > HomeBrewer
> > 76-81-85CJ7
> > http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
> > All in one Jeep
> >
> > "Rick Sink" <ricksink@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> > news:41abefb7.695475468@news.east.earthlink.net...
> > > My son's 90 YJ has the 4.2L six with 5 speed. Is there such a thing as
> > > swapping the 6 out for a V8?...and still meeting emissions laws? Could
> > > the trans/clutch stay...or would the V8 require a new trans? Any way
> > > to get a Chevy small block in it, with emissions equipment?
> > >
> > > Rick

> >
> >


Jeff Strickland 11-30-2004 01:53 PM

Re: 6 to V8 conversion
 
As a simple guideline, the Smog Equipment must be either for the motor OR
for the vehicle, WHICHEVER IS NEWER. If you put in a '90 motor, then you
have to maintain the same level of smog equipment that the motor requires.
If you install a pre-'90 motor, you must increase the smog equipment to '90
levels. If you put in a post-'90 motor, the smog equipment of the motor must
be fitted in the vehicle.

There is a guy near Fresno (center-state, California) that installs a Ford
5.0L into Jeeps. I have heard a mixed bag of comments, but he should be
worth a look ...




"Rick Sink" <ricksink@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:41abefb7.695475468@news.east.earthlink.net...
> My son's 90 YJ has the 4.2L six with 5 speed. Is there such a thing as
> swapping the 6 out for a V8?...and still meeting emissions laws? Could
> the trans/clutch stay...or would the V8 require a new trans? Any way
> to get a Chevy small block in it, with emissions equipment?
>
> Rick




Jeff Strickland 11-30-2004 01:53 PM

Re: 6 to V8 conversion
 
As a simple guideline, the Smog Equipment must be either for the motor OR
for the vehicle, WHICHEVER IS NEWER. If you put in a '90 motor, then you
have to maintain the same level of smog equipment that the motor requires.
If you install a pre-'90 motor, you must increase the smog equipment to '90
levels. If you put in a post-'90 motor, the smog equipment of the motor must
be fitted in the vehicle.

There is a guy near Fresno (center-state, California) that installs a Ford
5.0L into Jeeps. I have heard a mixed bag of comments, but he should be
worth a look ...




"Rick Sink" <ricksink@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:41abefb7.695475468@news.east.earthlink.net...
> My son's 90 YJ has the 4.2L six with 5 speed. Is there such a thing as
> swapping the 6 out for a V8?...and still meeting emissions laws? Could
> the trans/clutch stay...or would the V8 require a new trans? Any way
> to get a Chevy small block in it, with emissions equipment?
>
> Rick




Jeff Strickland 11-30-2004 01:53 PM

Re: 6 to V8 conversion
 
As a simple guideline, the Smog Equipment must be either for the motor OR
for the vehicle, WHICHEVER IS NEWER. If you put in a '90 motor, then you
have to maintain the same level of smog equipment that the motor requires.
If you install a pre-'90 motor, you must increase the smog equipment to '90
levels. If you put in a post-'90 motor, the smog equipment of the motor must
be fitted in the vehicle.

There is a guy near Fresno (center-state, California) that installs a Ford
5.0L into Jeeps. I have heard a mixed bag of comments, but he should be
worth a look ...




"Rick Sink" <ricksink@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:41abefb7.695475468@news.east.earthlink.net...
> My son's 90 YJ has the 4.2L six with 5 speed. Is there such a thing as
> swapping the 6 out for a V8?...and still meeting emissions laws? Could
> the trans/clutch stay...or would the V8 require a new trans? Any way
> to get a Chevy small block in it, with emissions equipment?
>
> Rick




Ted 12-06-2004 06:38 PM

Re: 6 to V8 conversion
 
If you use a Service Replacement Block the "motor" has no Model Year.
This is also true of engines originally in marine, industrial, ag,
aviation service...there's no VIN. Not that they're suitable for Jeeps
but a Detroit Diesel has a serial number on the rocker box cover...and
is removable.


Ted 12-06-2004 06:38 PM

Re: 6 to V8 conversion
 
If you use a Service Replacement Block the "motor" has no Model Year.
This is also true of engines originally in marine, industrial, ag,
aviation service...there's no VIN. Not that they're suitable for Jeeps
but a Detroit Diesel has a serial number on the rocker box cover...and
is removable.


Ted 12-06-2004 06:38 PM

Re: 6 to V8 conversion
 
If you use a Service Replacement Block the "motor" has no Model Year.
This is also true of engines originally in marine, industrial, ag,
aviation service...there's no VIN. Not that they're suitable for Jeeps
but a Detroit Diesel has a serial number on the rocker box cover...and
is removable.



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