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William Oliveri 05-05-2004 12:29 PM

4" lift kit Extends Wheel base?
 
I noiced since I put my 4" lift kit on I don't have the turning radius I
used to. Is this a norm?


Thanks,

Bill



Jerry McG 05-05-2004 01:40 PM

Re: 4" lift kit Extends Wheel base?
 
There's a good chance the lift altered your caster angle. If it did that can
affect you turning rqadiius significantly. Easy to check on a proper
alignment rack. I have a 4.5" RE kit on my YJ, had to put 2 degree steel
shims on the front to get it back into spec.

"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:c7b4i7$1s540$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> I noiced since I put my 4" lift kit on I don't have the turning radius I
> used to. Is this a norm?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
>




Jerry McG 05-05-2004 01:40 PM

Re: 4" lift kit Extends Wheel base?
 
There's a good chance the lift altered your caster angle. If it did that can
affect you turning rqadiius significantly. Easy to check on a proper
alignment rack. I have a 4.5" RE kit on my YJ, had to put 2 degree steel
shims on the front to get it back into spec.

"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:c7b4i7$1s540$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> I noiced since I put my 4" lift kit on I don't have the turning radius I
> used to. Is this a norm?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
>




Jerry McG 05-05-2004 01:40 PM

Re: 4" lift kit Extends Wheel base?
 
There's a good chance the lift altered your caster angle. If it did that can
affect you turning rqadiius significantly. Easy to check on a proper
alignment rack. I have a 4.5" RE kit on my YJ, had to put 2 degree steel
shims on the front to get it back into spec.

"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:c7b4i7$1s540$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> I noiced since I put my 4" lift kit on I don't have the turning radius I
> used to. Is this a norm?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
>




Jerry McG 05-05-2004 01:40 PM

Re: 4" lift kit Extends Wheel base?
 
There's a good chance the lift altered your caster angle. If it did that can
affect you turning rqadiius significantly. Easy to check on a proper
alignment rack. I have a 4.5" RE kit on my YJ, had to put 2 degree steel
shims on the front to get it back into spec.

"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:c7b4i7$1s540$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> I noiced since I put my 4" lift kit on I don't have the turning radius I
> used to. Is this a norm?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
>




William Oliveri 05-05-2004 02:42 PM

Re: 4" lift kit Extends Wheel base?
 
Cool, thanks for the info.

Bill

"Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:c7b8uq0k9v@enews4.newsguy.com...
> There's a good chance the lift altered your caster angle. If it did that

can
> affect you turning rqadiius significantly. Easy to check on a proper
> alignment rack. I have a 4.5" RE kit on my YJ, had to put 2 degree steel
> shims on the front to get it back into spec.
>
> "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> news:c7b4i7$1s540$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > I noiced since I put my 4" lift kit on I don't have the turning radius I
> > used to. Is this a norm?
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >

>
>




William Oliveri 05-05-2004 02:42 PM

Re: 4" lift kit Extends Wheel base?
 
Cool, thanks for the info.

Bill

"Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:c7b8uq0k9v@enews4.newsguy.com...
> There's a good chance the lift altered your caster angle. If it did that

can
> affect you turning rqadiius significantly. Easy to check on a proper
> alignment rack. I have a 4.5" RE kit on my YJ, had to put 2 degree steel
> shims on the front to get it back into spec.
>
> "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> news:c7b4i7$1s540$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > I noiced since I put my 4" lift kit on I don't have the turning radius I
> > used to. Is this a norm?
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >

>
>




William Oliveri 05-05-2004 02:42 PM

Re: 4" lift kit Extends Wheel base?
 
Cool, thanks for the info.

Bill

"Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:c7b8uq0k9v@enews4.newsguy.com...
> There's a good chance the lift altered your caster angle. If it did that

can
> affect you turning rqadiius significantly. Easy to check on a proper
> alignment rack. I have a 4.5" RE kit on my YJ, had to put 2 degree steel
> shims on the front to get it back into spec.
>
> "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> news:c7b4i7$1s540$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > I noiced since I put my 4" lift kit on I don't have the turning radius I
> > used to. Is this a norm?
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >

>
>




William Oliveri 05-05-2004 02:42 PM

Re: 4" lift kit Extends Wheel base?
 
Cool, thanks for the info.

Bill

"Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:c7b8uq0k9v@enews4.newsguy.com...
> There's a good chance the lift altered your caster angle. If it did that

can
> affect you turning rqadiius significantly. Easy to check on a proper
> alignment rack. I have a 4.5" RE kit on my YJ, had to put 2 degree steel
> shims on the front to get it back into spec.
>
> "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> news:c7b4i7$1s540$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > I noiced since I put my 4" lift kit on I don't have the turning radius I
> > used to. Is this a norm?
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >

>
>




L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-05-2004 03:15 PM

Re: 4" lift kit Extends Wheel base?
 
Shouldn't. The turning radius is controlled by the knuckle stops
and a very tiny bit by the castor.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

William Oliveri wrote:
>
> I noiced since I put my 4" lift kit on I don't have the turning radius I
> used to. Is this a norm?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-05-2004 03:15 PM

Re: 4" lift kit Extends Wheel base?
 
Shouldn't. The turning radius is controlled by the knuckle stops
and a very tiny bit by the castor.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

William Oliveri wrote:
>
> I noiced since I put my 4" lift kit on I don't have the turning radius I
> used to. Is this a norm?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-05-2004 03:15 PM

Re: 4" lift kit Extends Wheel base?
 
Shouldn't. The turning radius is controlled by the knuckle stops
and a very tiny bit by the castor.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

William Oliveri wrote:
>
> I noiced since I put my 4" lift kit on I don't have the turning radius I
> used to. Is this a norm?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-05-2004 03:15 PM

Re: 4" lift kit Extends Wheel base?
 
Shouldn't. The turning radius is controlled by the knuckle stops
and a very tiny bit by the castor.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

William Oliveri wrote:
>
> I noiced since I put my 4" lift kit on I don't have the turning radius I
> used to. Is this a norm?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill


TrailMarker 05-07-2004 07:45 PM

Re: 4" lift kit Extends Wheel base?
 
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message news:<c7b4i7$1s540$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de>...
> I noiced since I put my 4" lift kit on I don't have the turning radius I
> used to. Is this a norm?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill


Did you install a drop pitman arm? If so, your turning radius is
shorter because the pitman arm is shorter (axis to axis). You can
check this out by turning your tires as far as they'll go one way or
the other, then get under there and look at the 'bump stop' bolts.
They are now useless. You can't turn it sharp enough to contact the
bolts. You are now limited by the steering box. I've heard or read
here on RAMJ+W that a mid eighties or so full size Bronco pitman arm
will give you back your turning radius. I haven't checked one out, but
it just might cause other clearance issues - with the tie rod.
TrailMarker.

TrailMarker 05-07-2004 07:45 PM

Re: 4" lift kit Extends Wheel base?
 
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message news:<c7b4i7$1s540$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de>...
> I noiced since I put my 4" lift kit on I don't have the turning radius I
> used to. Is this a norm?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill


Did you install a drop pitman arm? If so, your turning radius is
shorter because the pitman arm is shorter (axis to axis). You can
check this out by turning your tires as far as they'll go one way or
the other, then get under there and look at the 'bump stop' bolts.
They are now useless. You can't turn it sharp enough to contact the
bolts. You are now limited by the steering box. I've heard or read
here on RAMJ+W that a mid eighties or so full size Bronco pitman arm
will give you back your turning radius. I haven't checked one out, but
it just might cause other clearance issues - with the tie rod.
TrailMarker.

TrailMarker 05-07-2004 07:45 PM

Re: 4" lift kit Extends Wheel base?
 
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message news:<c7b4i7$1s540$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de>...
> I noiced since I put my 4" lift kit on I don't have the turning radius I
> used to. Is this a norm?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill


Did you install a drop pitman arm? If so, your turning radius is
shorter because the pitman arm is shorter (axis to axis). You can
check this out by turning your tires as far as they'll go one way or
the other, then get under there and look at the 'bump stop' bolts.
They are now useless. You can't turn it sharp enough to contact the
bolts. You are now limited by the steering box. I've heard or read
here on RAMJ+W that a mid eighties or so full size Bronco pitman arm
will give you back your turning radius. I haven't checked one out, but
it just might cause other clearance issues - with the tie rod.
TrailMarker.

TrailMarker 05-07-2004 07:45 PM

Re: 4" lift kit Extends Wheel base?
 
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message news:<c7b4i7$1s540$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de>...
> I noiced since I put my 4" lift kit on I don't have the turning radius I
> used to. Is this a norm?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill


Did you install a drop pitman arm? If so, your turning radius is
shorter because the pitman arm is shorter (axis to axis). You can
check this out by turning your tires as far as they'll go one way or
the other, then get under there and look at the 'bump stop' bolts.
They are now useless. You can't turn it sharp enough to contact the
bolts. You are now limited by the steering box. I've heard or read
here on RAMJ+W that a mid eighties or so full size Bronco pitman arm
will give you back your turning radius. I haven't checked one out, but
it just might cause other clearance issues - with the tie rod.
TrailMarker.

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-07-2004 08:05 PM

Re: 4" lift kit Extends Wheel base?
 
Good catch.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

TrailMarker wrote:
>
> Did you install a drop pitman arm? If so, your turning radius is
> shorter because the pitman arm is shorter (axis to axis). You can
> check this out by turning your tires as far as they'll go one way or
> the other, then get under there and look at the 'bump stop' bolts.
> They are now useless. You can't turn it sharp enough to contact the
> bolts. You are now limited by the steering box. I've heard or read
> here on RAMJ+W that a mid eighties or so full size Bronco pitman arm
> will give you back your turning radius. I haven't checked one out, but
> it just might cause other clearance issues - with the tie rod.
> TrailMarker.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-07-2004 08:05 PM

Re: 4" lift kit Extends Wheel base?
 
Good catch.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

TrailMarker wrote:
>
> Did you install a drop pitman arm? If so, your turning radius is
> shorter because the pitman arm is shorter (axis to axis). You can
> check this out by turning your tires as far as they'll go one way or
> the other, then get under there and look at the 'bump stop' bolts.
> They are now useless. You can't turn it sharp enough to contact the
> bolts. You are now limited by the steering box. I've heard or read
> here on RAMJ+W that a mid eighties or so full size Bronco pitman arm
> will give you back your turning radius. I haven't checked one out, but
> it just might cause other clearance issues - with the tie rod.
> TrailMarker.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-07-2004 08:05 PM

Re: 4" lift kit Extends Wheel base?
 
Good catch.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

TrailMarker wrote:
>
> Did you install a drop pitman arm? If so, your turning radius is
> shorter because the pitman arm is shorter (axis to axis). You can
> check this out by turning your tires as far as they'll go one way or
> the other, then get under there and look at the 'bump stop' bolts.
> They are now useless. You can't turn it sharp enough to contact the
> bolts. You are now limited by the steering box. I've heard or read
> here on RAMJ+W that a mid eighties or so full size Bronco pitman arm
> will give you back your turning radius. I haven't checked one out, but
> it just might cause other clearance issues - with the tie rod.
> TrailMarker.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-07-2004 08:05 PM

Re: 4" lift kit Extends Wheel base?
 
Good catch.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

TrailMarker wrote:
>
> Did you install a drop pitman arm? If so, your turning radius is
> shorter because the pitman arm is shorter (axis to axis). You can
> check this out by turning your tires as far as they'll go one way or
> the other, then get under there and look at the 'bump stop' bolts.
> They are now useless. You can't turn it sharp enough to contact the
> bolts. You are now limited by the steering box. I've heard or read
> here on RAMJ+W that a mid eighties or so full size Bronco pitman arm
> will give you back your turning radius. I haven't checked one out, but
> it just might cause other clearance issues - with the tie rod.
> TrailMarker.


johnny 05-08-2004 09:28 PM

Re: 4" lift kit Extends Wheel base?
 
or maybe you put on larger dimeter tires.
john


"TrailMarker" <carrollcaboodle@netzero.com> wrote in message
news:d5bfa5a2.0405071545.55780786@posting.google.c om...
> "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message

news:<c7b4i7$1s540$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de>...
> > I noiced since I put my 4" lift kit on I don't have the turning radius I
> > used to. Is this a norm?
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bill

>
> Did you install a drop pitman arm? If so, your turning radius is
> shorter because the pitman arm is shorter (axis to axis). You can
> check this out by turning your tires as far as they'll go one way or
> the other, then get under there and look at the 'bump stop' bolts.
> They are now useless. You can't turn it sharp enough to contact the
> bolts. You are now limited by the steering box. I've heard or read
> here on RAMJ+W that a mid eighties or so full size Bronco pitman arm
> will give you back your turning radius. I haven't checked one out, but
> it just might cause other clearance issues - with the tie rod.
> TrailMarker.




johnny 05-08-2004 09:28 PM

Re: 4" lift kit Extends Wheel base?
 
or maybe you put on larger dimeter tires.
john


"TrailMarker" <carrollcaboodle@netzero.com> wrote in message
news:d5bfa5a2.0405071545.55780786@posting.google.c om...
> "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message

news:<c7b4i7$1s540$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de>...
> > I noiced since I put my 4" lift kit on I don't have the turning radius I
> > used to. Is this a norm?
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bill

>
> Did you install a drop pitman arm? If so, your turning radius is
> shorter because the pitman arm is shorter (axis to axis). You can
> check this out by turning your tires as far as they'll go one way or
> the other, then get under there and look at the 'bump stop' bolts.
> They are now useless. You can't turn it sharp enough to contact the
> bolts. You are now limited by the steering box. I've heard or read
> here on RAMJ+W that a mid eighties or so full size Bronco pitman arm
> will give you back your turning radius. I haven't checked one out, but
> it just might cause other clearance issues - with the tie rod.
> TrailMarker.




johnny 05-08-2004 09:28 PM

Re: 4" lift kit Extends Wheel base?
 
or maybe you put on larger dimeter tires.
john


"TrailMarker" <carrollcaboodle@netzero.com> wrote in message
news:d5bfa5a2.0405071545.55780786@posting.google.c om...
> "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message

news:<c7b4i7$1s540$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de>...
> > I noiced since I put my 4" lift kit on I don't have the turning radius I
> > used to. Is this a norm?
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bill

>
> Did you install a drop pitman arm? If so, your turning radius is
> shorter because the pitman arm is shorter (axis to axis). You can
> check this out by turning your tires as far as they'll go one way or
> the other, then get under there and look at the 'bump stop' bolts.
> They are now useless. You can't turn it sharp enough to contact the
> bolts. You are now limited by the steering box. I've heard or read
> here on RAMJ+W that a mid eighties or so full size Bronco pitman arm
> will give you back your turning radius. I haven't checked one out, but
> it just might cause other clearance issues - with the tie rod.
> TrailMarker.




johnny 05-08-2004 09:28 PM

Re: 4" lift kit Extends Wheel base?
 
or maybe you put on larger dimeter tires.
john


"TrailMarker" <carrollcaboodle@netzero.com> wrote in message
news:d5bfa5a2.0405071545.55780786@posting.google.c om...
> "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message

news:<c7b4i7$1s540$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de>...
> > I noiced since I put my 4" lift kit on I don't have the turning radius I
> > used to. Is this a norm?
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bill

>
> Did you install a drop pitman arm? If so, your turning radius is
> shorter because the pitman arm is shorter (axis to axis). You can
> check this out by turning your tires as far as they'll go one way or
> the other, then get under there and look at the 'bump stop' bolts.
> They are now useless. You can't turn it sharp enough to contact the
> bolts. You are now limited by the steering box. I've heard or read
> here on RAMJ+W that a mid eighties or so full size Bronco pitman arm
> will give you back your turning radius. I haven't checked one out, but
> it just might cause other clearance issues - with the tie rod.
> TrailMarker.





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