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Jeffrey DeWitt 09-07-2006 07:04 PM

Re: 4 Cylinder Engines in CJ7
 
Maybe I'm misremembering but I seem to recall they needed a new 4cyl
engine and took the old six, removed two cylinders and redesigned the
head for better flow. The then took the "new" 4cyl engine and added two
cylinders to make the 4.0. For what it's worth both engines use the
same replacement pistons.

(Autozone says a Badger P830-20 for a .020 oversize piston for either
engine).

Jeff DeWitt

Mike Romain wrote:
> Umm, they didn't make the 4.0 when the CJ's were around. The 6 is a 4.2
> from that era.
>
> The later CJ 4 banger is a GM product.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Jeffrey DeWitt wrote:
>
>>I don't think so, as I recall that engine is basically the 4.0 with two
>>cylinders missing.
>>
>>Jeff DeWitt
>>
>>Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>>>Afaik, the four cylinder is a GM offering, with the same bell housing
>>>pattern as a small block Chevy or the 4.3 liter V6. The 5.7 liter fuel
>>>injected small block is an ever better compromise. ;^)
>>>
>>>The I4 isn't so great for highway use, just because of the horrible
>>>aerodynamics that you can't get away from with a vehicle shaped like a
>>>shoebox, but off road you may have some advantage, and the axle ratio should
>>>be the sensible 4.11 that they mated with four cylinder engines.
>>>
>>>Longevity will depend on what the engine has been through in the past, and
>>>what you do once you get it. A compression test would be a good idea.
>>>
>>>Earle
>>>
>>>"John Norman" <Reply@ThruNewsgrp.com> wrote in message
>>>news:q60vf29a2tuvrivj1cc1kavtn6n4v25seh@4ax.com ...
>>>
>>>
>>>>I was wondering how good the 4 cylinder engines are in these jeeps. Is
>>>>it a good option for medium-core 4-wheeling on the cheap? I know the
>>>>I6's are great (I used to have a Cherokee), but will the I4 be a good
>>>>compromise with gas prices the way they are? Also how about the
>>>>longevity factor. How many miles can one expect to get out of this
>>>>engine?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks in Advance
>>>>John
>>>
>>>
>>>


Jeffrey DeWitt 09-07-2006 07:04 PM

Re: 4 Cylinder Engines in CJ7
 
Maybe I'm misremembering but I seem to recall they needed a new 4cyl
engine and took the old six, removed two cylinders and redesigned the
head for better flow. The then took the "new" 4cyl engine and added two
cylinders to make the 4.0. For what it's worth both engines use the
same replacement pistons.

(Autozone says a Badger P830-20 for a .020 oversize piston for either
engine).

Jeff DeWitt

Mike Romain wrote:
> Umm, they didn't make the 4.0 when the CJ's were around. The 6 is a 4.2
> from that era.
>
> The later CJ 4 banger is a GM product.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Jeffrey DeWitt wrote:
>
>>I don't think so, as I recall that engine is basically the 4.0 with two
>>cylinders missing.
>>
>>Jeff DeWitt
>>
>>Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>>>Afaik, the four cylinder is a GM offering, with the same bell housing
>>>pattern as a small block Chevy or the 4.3 liter V6. The 5.7 liter fuel
>>>injected small block is an ever better compromise. ;^)
>>>
>>>The I4 isn't so great for highway use, just because of the horrible
>>>aerodynamics that you can't get away from with a vehicle shaped like a
>>>shoebox, but off road you may have some advantage, and the axle ratio should
>>>be the sensible 4.11 that they mated with four cylinder engines.
>>>
>>>Longevity will depend on what the engine has been through in the past, and
>>>what you do once you get it. A compression test would be a good idea.
>>>
>>>Earle
>>>
>>>"John Norman" <Reply@ThruNewsgrp.com> wrote in message
>>>news:q60vf29a2tuvrivj1cc1kavtn6n4v25seh@4ax.com ...
>>>
>>>
>>>>I was wondering how good the 4 cylinder engines are in these jeeps. Is
>>>>it a good option for medium-core 4-wheeling on the cheap? I know the
>>>>I6's are great (I used to have a Cherokee), but will the I4 be a good
>>>>compromise with gas prices the way they are? Also how about the
>>>>longevity factor. How many miles can one expect to get out of this
>>>>engine?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks in Advance
>>>>John
>>>
>>>
>>>


L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 09-07-2006 08:14 PM

Re: 4 Cylinder Engines in CJ7
 
Whatever, Just so long as you know it was originally a 1926 Nash
engine:
http://www.pnwnash.org/common/closeu...rsonid=&carid=
They just added a water pump and filter.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jeffrey DeWitt wrote:
>
> Maybe I'm misremembering but I seem to recall they needed a new 4cyl
> engine and took the old six, removed two cylinders and redesigned the
> head for better flow. The then took the "new" 4cyl engine and added two
> cylinders to make the 4.0. For what it's worth both engines use the
> same replacement pistons.
>
> (Autozone says a Badger P830-20 for a .020 oversize piston for either
> engine).
>
> Jeff DeWitt


L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 09-07-2006 08:14 PM

Re: 4 Cylinder Engines in CJ7
 
Whatever, Just so long as you know it was originally a 1926 Nash
engine:
http://www.pnwnash.org/common/closeu...rsonid=&carid=
They just added a water pump and filter.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jeffrey DeWitt wrote:
>
> Maybe I'm misremembering but I seem to recall they needed a new 4cyl
> engine and took the old six, removed two cylinders and redesigned the
> head for better flow. The then took the "new" 4cyl engine and added two
> cylinders to make the 4.0. For what it's worth both engines use the
> same replacement pistons.
>
> (Autozone says a Badger P830-20 for a .020 oversize piston for either
> engine).
>
> Jeff DeWitt


L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 09-07-2006 08:14 PM

Re: 4 Cylinder Engines in CJ7
 
Whatever, Just so long as you know it was originally a 1926 Nash
engine:
http://www.pnwnash.org/common/closeu...rsonid=&carid=
They just added a water pump and filter.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jeffrey DeWitt wrote:
>
> Maybe I'm misremembering but I seem to recall they needed a new 4cyl
> engine and took the old six, removed two cylinders and redesigned the
> head for better flow. The then took the "new" 4cyl engine and added two
> cylinders to make the 4.0. For what it's worth both engines use the
> same replacement pistons.
>
> (Autozone says a Badger P830-20 for a .020 oversize piston for either
> engine).
>
> Jeff DeWitt


Jeffrey DeWitt 09-07-2006 09:02 PM

Re: 4 Cylinder Engines in CJ7
 
<G>

Jeff DeWitt

L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> Whatever, Just so long as you know it was originally a 1926 Nash
> engine:
> http://www.pnwnash.org/common/closeu...rsonid=&carid=
> They just added a water pump and filter.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeffrey DeWitt wrote:
>
>>Maybe I'm misremembering but I seem to recall they needed a new 4cyl
>>engine and took the old six, removed two cylinders and redesigned the
>>head for better flow. The then took the "new" 4cyl engine and added two
>>cylinders to make the 4.0. For what it's worth both engines use the
>>same replacement pistons.
>>
>>(Autozone says a Badger P830-20 for a .020 oversize piston for either
>>engine).
>>
>>Jeff DeWitt


Jeffrey DeWitt 09-07-2006 09:02 PM

Re: 4 Cylinder Engines in CJ7
 
<G>

Jeff DeWitt

L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> Whatever, Just so long as you know it was originally a 1926 Nash
> engine:
> http://www.pnwnash.org/common/closeu...rsonid=&carid=
> They just added a water pump and filter.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeffrey DeWitt wrote:
>
>>Maybe I'm misremembering but I seem to recall they needed a new 4cyl
>>engine and took the old six, removed two cylinders and redesigned the
>>head for better flow. The then took the "new" 4cyl engine and added two
>>cylinders to make the 4.0. For what it's worth both engines use the
>>same replacement pistons.
>>
>>(Autozone says a Badger P830-20 for a .020 oversize piston for either
>>engine).
>>
>>Jeff DeWitt


Jeffrey DeWitt 09-07-2006 09:02 PM

Re: 4 Cylinder Engines in CJ7
 
<G>

Jeff DeWitt

L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> Whatever, Just so long as you know it was originally a 1926 Nash
> engine:
> http://www.pnwnash.org/common/closeu...rsonid=&carid=
> They just added a water pump and filter.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeffrey DeWitt wrote:
>
>>Maybe I'm misremembering but I seem to recall they needed a new 4cyl
>>engine and took the old six, removed two cylinders and redesigned the
>>head for better flow. The then took the "new" 4cyl engine and added two
>>cylinders to make the 4.0. For what it's worth both engines use the
>>same replacement pistons.
>>
>>(Autozone says a Badger P830-20 for a .020 oversize piston for either
>>engine).
>>
>>Jeff DeWitt


Earle Horton 09-07-2006 11:20 PM

Re: 4 Cylinder Engines in CJ7
 
The Cherokee got these engines first, then the Wranglers got them. Afaik,
none of them made it into CJs. I have the 4 cylinder engine in my Wrangler,
and no speeding tickets so far. ;^)

Earle

"Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:Pz1Mg.12839$Md4.12358@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
> Maybe I'm misremembering but I seem to recall they needed a new 4cyl
> engine and took the old six, removed two cylinders and redesigned the
> head for better flow. The then took the "new" 4cyl engine and added two
> cylinders to make the 4.0. For what it's worth both engines use the
> same replacement pistons.
>
> (Autozone says a Badger P830-20 for a .020 oversize piston for either
> engine).
>
> Jeff DeWitt
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Umm, they didn't make the 4.0 when the CJ's were around. The 6 is a 4.2
> > from that era.
> >
> > The later CJ 4 banger is a GM product.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Jeffrey DeWitt wrote:
> >
> >>I don't think so, as I recall that engine is basically the 4.0 with two
> >>cylinders missing.
> >>
> >>Jeff DeWitt
> >>
> >>Earle Horton wrote:
> >>
> >>>Afaik, the four cylinder is a GM offering, with the same bell housing
> >>>pattern as a small block Chevy or the 4.3 liter V6. The 5.7 liter fuel
> >>>injected small block is an ever better compromise. ;^)
> >>>
> >>>The I4 isn't so great for highway use, just because of the horrible
> >>>aerodynamics that you can't get away from with a vehicle shaped like a
> >>>shoebox, but off road you may have some advantage, and the axle ratio

should
> >>>be the sensible 4.11 that they mated with four cylinder engines.
> >>>
> >>>Longevity will depend on what the engine has been through in the past,

and
> >>>what you do once you get it. A compression test would be a good idea.
> >>>
> >>>Earle
> >>>
> >>>"John Norman" <Reply@ThruNewsgrp.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:q60vf29a2tuvrivj1cc1kavtn6n4v25seh@4ax.com ...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>I was wondering how good the 4 cylinder engines are in these jeeps. Is
> >>>>it a good option for medium-core 4-wheeling on the cheap? I know the
> >>>>I6's are great (I used to have a Cherokee), but will the I4 be a good
> >>>>compromise with gas prices the way they are? Also how about the
> >>>>longevity factor. How many miles can one expect to get out of this
> >>>>engine?
> >>>>
> >>>>Thanks in Advance
> >>>>John
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>




Earle Horton 09-07-2006 11:20 PM

Re: 4 Cylinder Engines in CJ7
 
The Cherokee got these engines first, then the Wranglers got them. Afaik,
none of them made it into CJs. I have the 4 cylinder engine in my Wrangler,
and no speeding tickets so far. ;^)

Earle

"Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:Pz1Mg.12839$Md4.12358@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
> Maybe I'm misremembering but I seem to recall they needed a new 4cyl
> engine and took the old six, removed two cylinders and redesigned the
> head for better flow. The then took the "new" 4cyl engine and added two
> cylinders to make the 4.0. For what it's worth both engines use the
> same replacement pistons.
>
> (Autozone says a Badger P830-20 for a .020 oversize piston for either
> engine).
>
> Jeff DeWitt
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Umm, they didn't make the 4.0 when the CJ's were around. The 6 is a 4.2
> > from that era.
> >
> > The later CJ 4 banger is a GM product.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Jeffrey DeWitt wrote:
> >
> >>I don't think so, as I recall that engine is basically the 4.0 with two
> >>cylinders missing.
> >>
> >>Jeff DeWitt
> >>
> >>Earle Horton wrote:
> >>
> >>>Afaik, the four cylinder is a GM offering, with the same bell housing
> >>>pattern as a small block Chevy or the 4.3 liter V6. The 5.7 liter fuel
> >>>injected small block is an ever better compromise. ;^)
> >>>
> >>>The I4 isn't so great for highway use, just because of the horrible
> >>>aerodynamics that you can't get away from with a vehicle shaped like a
> >>>shoebox, but off road you may have some advantage, and the axle ratio

should
> >>>be the sensible 4.11 that they mated with four cylinder engines.
> >>>
> >>>Longevity will depend on what the engine has been through in the past,

and
> >>>what you do once you get it. A compression test would be a good idea.
> >>>
> >>>Earle
> >>>
> >>>"John Norman" <Reply@ThruNewsgrp.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:q60vf29a2tuvrivj1cc1kavtn6n4v25seh@4ax.com ...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>I was wondering how good the 4 cylinder engines are in these jeeps. Is
> >>>>it a good option for medium-core 4-wheeling on the cheap? I know the
> >>>>I6's are great (I used to have a Cherokee), but will the I4 be a good
> >>>>compromise with gas prices the way they are? Also how about the
> >>>>longevity factor. How many miles can one expect to get out of this
> >>>>engine?
> >>>>
> >>>>Thanks in Advance
> >>>>John
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>





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