4.0L Cracked Head
2001 TJ
~89K miles 4.0L manual T, AC I'm loosing coolant (very slowly) dealer says its a cracked head, any one familure with this problem? Anyone using a aftermarket aluminum head? May solver the casting problem but create a bunch of other problems? Should I replace the exhaust manifold at the same time? Jim |
Re: 4.0L Cracked Head
James Hilins wrote:
> 2001 TJ > ~89K miles > 4.0L manual T, AC > > I'm loosing coolant (very slowly) > dealer says its a cracked head, any one familure with this problem? > > Anyone using a aftermarket aluminum head? May solver the casting > problem but create a bunch of other problems? > Should I replace the exhaust manifold at the same time? Cracked heads in the newer 4.0 (>1992) are rare. Did they show you how they came to this assessment? I'd be suspecting a leaky overflow bottle, hose, or pump, before even thinking about a cracked head. -- -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge! |
Re: 4.0L Cracked Head
James Hilins wrote:
> 2001 TJ > ~89K miles > 4.0L manual T, AC > > I'm loosing coolant (very slowly) > dealer says its a cracked head, any one familure with this problem? > > Anyone using a aftermarket aluminum head? May solver the casting > problem but create a bunch of other problems? > Should I replace the exhaust manifold at the same time? Cracked heads in the newer 4.0 (>1992) are rare. Did they show you how they came to this assessment? I'd be suspecting a leaky overflow bottle, hose, or pump, before even thinking about a cracked head. -- -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge! |
Re: 4.0L Cracked Head
James Hilins wrote:
> 2001 TJ > ~89K miles > 4.0L manual T, AC > > I'm loosing coolant (very slowly) > dealer says its a cracked head, any one familure with this problem? > > Anyone using a aftermarket aluminum head? May solver the casting > problem but create a bunch of other problems? > Should I replace the exhaust manifold at the same time? Cracked heads in the newer 4.0 (>1992) are rare. Did they show you how they came to this assessment? I'd be suspecting a leaky overflow bottle, hose, or pump, before even thinking about a cracked head. -- -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge! |
Re: 4.0L Cracked Head
Hi James,
Like Doug said, we haven't heard of a cracked four liter heads. Usually that only happens went the engine has badly over heated and boiled all the water out and someone pours cold water back in before it cools, and you can hear it when that happens. The Stealership may have been covering the possibility it was cracked, after finding a clean cylinder. So it may be just a blown gasket. Aluminum heads are nice, but don't waste you money on a Rambler engine. -- God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ James Hilins wrote: > > 2001 TJ > ~89K miles > 4.0L manual T, AC > > I'm loosing coolant (very slowly) > dealer says its a cracked head, any one familure with this problem? > > Anyone using a aftermarket aluminum head? May solver the casting problem > but create a bunch of other problems? > Should I replace the exhaust manifold at the same time? > > Jim |
Re: 4.0L Cracked Head
Hi James,
Like Doug said, we haven't heard of a cracked four liter heads. Usually that only happens went the engine has badly over heated and boiled all the water out and someone pours cold water back in before it cools, and you can hear it when that happens. The Stealership may have been covering the possibility it was cracked, after finding a clean cylinder. So it may be just a blown gasket. Aluminum heads are nice, but don't waste you money on a Rambler engine. -- God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ James Hilins wrote: > > 2001 TJ > ~89K miles > 4.0L manual T, AC > > I'm loosing coolant (very slowly) > dealer says its a cracked head, any one familure with this problem? > > Anyone using a aftermarket aluminum head? May solver the casting problem > but create a bunch of other problems? > Should I replace the exhaust manifold at the same time? > > Jim |
Re: 4.0L Cracked Head
Hi James,
Like Doug said, we haven't heard of a cracked four liter heads. Usually that only happens went the engine has badly over heated and boiled all the water out and someone pours cold water back in before it cools, and you can hear it when that happens. The Stealership may have been covering the possibility it was cracked, after finding a clean cylinder. So it may be just a blown gasket. Aluminum heads are nice, but don't waste you money on a Rambler engine. -- God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ James Hilins wrote: > > 2001 TJ > ~89K miles > 4.0L manual T, AC > > I'm loosing coolant (very slowly) > dealer says its a cracked head, any one familure with this problem? > > Anyone using a aftermarket aluminum head? May solver the casting problem > but create a bunch of other problems? > Should I replace the exhaust manifold at the same time? > > Jim |
Re: 4.0L Cracked Head
James Hilins wrote:
> 2001 TJ > ~89K miles > 4.0L manual T, AC > > I'm loosing coolant (very slowly) > dealer says its a cracked head, any one familure with this problem? > > Anyone using a aftermarket aluminum head? May solver the casting problem > but create a bunch of other problems? > Should I replace the exhaust manifold at the same time? It seems as if no one here has heard about the 0331 head castings and their propensity to crack. I Believe the 01 TJ and every other 99+ 4.0 has this head casting, I may be wrong but the Cherokee and ZJ do and there's plenty of XJ owners on naxja.com (a bunch of XJ enthusiasts) who have seen this cracked head. The Aluminum 4.0 head is made by HESCO, they are DAMN proud of it, to the tune of nearly $2000 dollars proud. Which is something like 19x the cost of a stock completely re-manufactured head. This diamond encrusted Aluminum head only shaves 30 pounds, and does not flow significantly better than the good stock castings that don't crack (castings 0630 and 7120). I say it doesn't flow significantly better because HESCO will not show actual Dyno sheets despite claiming they would show them many times. and they claim it's good for 10 to 15 HP more, but I'm betting it's more like 1 to 5 than 10 to 15. The only other advantage to this head is that the pushrod holes have been enlarged to allow pulling lifters and thus changing the cam without taking the head off. Also of note this head was avialable from summit with a different name, same head. At least HESCO claims it was theirs and someone took a bulk order and tried to rebrand them as "Patriot Aluminum heads" Don't know how true that claim is. -- Simon "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein |
Re: 4.0L Cracked Head
James Hilins wrote:
> 2001 TJ > ~89K miles > 4.0L manual T, AC > > I'm loosing coolant (very slowly) > dealer says its a cracked head, any one familure with this problem? > > Anyone using a aftermarket aluminum head? May solver the casting problem > but create a bunch of other problems? > Should I replace the exhaust manifold at the same time? It seems as if no one here has heard about the 0331 head castings and their propensity to crack. I Believe the 01 TJ and every other 99+ 4.0 has this head casting, I may be wrong but the Cherokee and ZJ do and there's plenty of XJ owners on naxja.com (a bunch of XJ enthusiasts) who have seen this cracked head. The Aluminum 4.0 head is made by HESCO, they are DAMN proud of it, to the tune of nearly $2000 dollars proud. Which is something like 19x the cost of a stock completely re-manufactured head. This diamond encrusted Aluminum head only shaves 30 pounds, and does not flow significantly better than the good stock castings that don't crack (castings 0630 and 7120). I say it doesn't flow significantly better because HESCO will not show actual Dyno sheets despite claiming they would show them many times. and they claim it's good for 10 to 15 HP more, but I'm betting it's more like 1 to 5 than 10 to 15. The only other advantage to this head is that the pushrod holes have been enlarged to allow pulling lifters and thus changing the cam without taking the head off. Also of note this head was avialable from summit with a different name, same head. At least HESCO claims it was theirs and someone took a bulk order and tried to rebrand them as "Patriot Aluminum heads" Don't know how true that claim is. -- Simon "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein |
Re: 4.0L Cracked Head
James Hilins wrote:
> 2001 TJ > ~89K miles > 4.0L manual T, AC > > I'm loosing coolant (very slowly) > dealer says its a cracked head, any one familure with this problem? > > Anyone using a aftermarket aluminum head? May solver the casting problem > but create a bunch of other problems? > Should I replace the exhaust manifold at the same time? It seems as if no one here has heard about the 0331 head castings and their propensity to crack. I Believe the 01 TJ and every other 99+ 4.0 has this head casting, I may be wrong but the Cherokee and ZJ do and there's plenty of XJ owners on naxja.com (a bunch of XJ enthusiasts) who have seen this cracked head. The Aluminum 4.0 head is made by HESCO, they are DAMN proud of it, to the tune of nearly $2000 dollars proud. Which is something like 19x the cost of a stock completely re-manufactured head. This diamond encrusted Aluminum head only shaves 30 pounds, and does not flow significantly better than the good stock castings that don't crack (castings 0630 and 7120). I say it doesn't flow significantly better because HESCO will not show actual Dyno sheets despite claiming they would show them many times. and they claim it's good for 10 to 15 HP more, but I'm betting it's more like 1 to 5 than 10 to 15. The only other advantage to this head is that the pushrod holes have been enlarged to allow pulling lifters and thus changing the cam without taking the head off. Also of note this head was avialable from summit with a different name, same head. At least HESCO claims it was theirs and someone took a bulk order and tried to rebrand them as "Patriot Aluminum heads" Don't know how true that claim is. -- Simon "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein |
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