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Mike Romain 09-18-2006 12:02 PM

Re: 302
 
They couldn't get the throw needed with the cable. He either had a nice
engage in 1st with a total slip at full throttle or full throttle grab
and serious grinding into gear if it would even go in. The poor guy
spent over $2500.00 for even that much and it was the third 'build'....

The problem is there aren't really many 'mechanics' left around. They
are all 'technicians' now a days and if a computer readout don't tell
them what to do, they are lost.

Mike

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> I worked in a Mack garage where they had a mechanic who could put a clutch
> cable on anything, and I am pretty good at retrofitting hydraulic cylinders,
> if I do say so myself. I think a lot depends on what you are used to
> working with.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:450EAEE6.FFBEA4E2@sympatico.ca...
> > I helped a gent set up a clutch for a Mustang power plant and tranny in
> > a CJ7. No one he took it to despite several thousands spent could make
> > a cable system work and no one he took it to had a clue about a
> > hydraulic conversion when he limped it over to me.
> >
> > I looked carefully at it and just went with a CJ mechanical clutch
> > linkage. It seemed the simplest and for sure the cheapest way to go.
> > The linkage parts are all available new. I had to swap the bell crank
> > lever from top to bottom to make a puller for the Mustang T5 throwout
> > bearing lever instead of the pusher on the Jeep T5 and it worked great.
> >
> > Here is a couple links on doing the 5.0 swap and a hydraulic clutch
> > link:
> >
> > http://www.zandm.com/
> > http://www.autoworks.cc/65-70%20ford...lutch_kits.htm
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > HILTON wrote:
> > >
> > > I have a 1996 jeep wrangler 4cyl and would like to put a 302 from a 1988

> ford
> > > f-150. Can anyone tell me if it is possable to do so and what steps i

> would
> > > have to take?


Mike Romain 09-18-2006 12:02 PM

Re: 302
 
They couldn't get the throw needed with the cable. He either had a nice
engage in 1st with a total slip at full throttle or full throttle grab
and serious grinding into gear if it would even go in. The poor guy
spent over $2500.00 for even that much and it was the third 'build'....

The problem is there aren't really many 'mechanics' left around. They
are all 'technicians' now a days and if a computer readout don't tell
them what to do, they are lost.

Mike

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> I worked in a Mack garage where they had a mechanic who could put a clutch
> cable on anything, and I am pretty good at retrofitting hydraulic cylinders,
> if I do say so myself. I think a lot depends on what you are used to
> working with.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:450EAEE6.FFBEA4E2@sympatico.ca...
> > I helped a gent set up a clutch for a Mustang power plant and tranny in
> > a CJ7. No one he took it to despite several thousands spent could make
> > a cable system work and no one he took it to had a clue about a
> > hydraulic conversion when he limped it over to me.
> >
> > I looked carefully at it and just went with a CJ mechanical clutch
> > linkage. It seemed the simplest and for sure the cheapest way to go.
> > The linkage parts are all available new. I had to swap the bell crank
> > lever from top to bottom to make a puller for the Mustang T5 throwout
> > bearing lever instead of the pusher on the Jeep T5 and it worked great.
> >
> > Here is a couple links on doing the 5.0 swap and a hydraulic clutch
> > link:
> >
> > http://www.zandm.com/
> > http://www.autoworks.cc/65-70%20ford...lutch_kits.htm
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > HILTON wrote:
> > >
> > > I have a 1996 jeep wrangler 4cyl and would like to put a 302 from a 1988

> ford
> > > f-150. Can anyone tell me if it is possable to do so and what steps i

> would
> > > have to take?


Mike Romain 09-18-2006 12:02 PM

Re: 302
 
They couldn't get the throw needed with the cable. He either had a nice
engage in 1st with a total slip at full throttle or full throttle grab
and serious grinding into gear if it would even go in. The poor guy
spent over $2500.00 for even that much and it was the third 'build'....

The problem is there aren't really many 'mechanics' left around. They
are all 'technicians' now a days and if a computer readout don't tell
them what to do, they are lost.

Mike

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> I worked in a Mack garage where they had a mechanic who could put a clutch
> cable on anything, and I am pretty good at retrofitting hydraulic cylinders,
> if I do say so myself. I think a lot depends on what you are used to
> working with.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:450EAEE6.FFBEA4E2@sympatico.ca...
> > I helped a gent set up a clutch for a Mustang power plant and tranny in
> > a CJ7. No one he took it to despite several thousands spent could make
> > a cable system work and no one he took it to had a clue about a
> > hydraulic conversion when he limped it over to me.
> >
> > I looked carefully at it and just went with a CJ mechanical clutch
> > linkage. It seemed the simplest and for sure the cheapest way to go.
> > The linkage parts are all available new. I had to swap the bell crank
> > lever from top to bottom to make a puller for the Mustang T5 throwout
> > bearing lever instead of the pusher on the Jeep T5 and it worked great.
> >
> > Here is a couple links on doing the 5.0 swap and a hydraulic clutch
> > link:
> >
> > http://www.zandm.com/
> > http://www.autoworks.cc/65-70%20ford...lutch_kits.htm
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > HILTON wrote:
> > >
> > > I have a 1996 jeep wrangler 4cyl and would like to put a 302 from a 1988

> ford
> > > f-150. Can anyone tell me if it is possable to do so and what steps i

> would
> > > have to take?


QuickTruck 09-20-2006 05:09 PM

Re: 302
 

HILTON wrote:
> I have a 1996 jeep wrangler 4cyl and would like to put a 302 from a 1988 ford
> f-150. Can anyone tell me if it is possable to do so and what steps i would
> have to take?


So far for my Ford swap into my CJ8 I've been very pleased with the
Novak swap kit. They don't drill the holes in the mounts, you're free
to locate things where they work best for you. I'm using a T-18 behind
it and the t-case adapter to my Dana 300 case was very straight forward
and easy.

Good Luck,
Don W


QuickTruck 09-20-2006 05:09 PM

Re: 302
 

HILTON wrote:
> I have a 1996 jeep wrangler 4cyl and would like to put a 302 from a 1988 ford
> f-150. Can anyone tell me if it is possable to do so and what steps i would
> have to take?


So far for my Ford swap into my CJ8 I've been very pleased with the
Novak swap kit. They don't drill the holes in the mounts, you're free
to locate things where they work best for you. I'm using a T-18 behind
it and the t-case adapter to my Dana 300 case was very straight forward
and easy.

Good Luck,
Don W


QuickTruck 09-20-2006 05:09 PM

Re: 302
 

HILTON wrote:
> I have a 1996 jeep wrangler 4cyl and would like to put a 302 from a 1988 ford
> f-150. Can anyone tell me if it is possable to do so and what steps i would
> have to take?


So far for my Ford swap into my CJ8 I've been very pleased with the
Novak swap kit. They don't drill the holes in the mounts, you're free
to locate things where they work best for you. I'm using a T-18 behind
it and the t-case adapter to my Dana 300 case was very straight forward
and easy.

Good Luck,
Don W


L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 09-20-2006 05:11 PM

Re: 302
 
Sounds cool.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

QuickTruck wrote:
>
> So far for my Ford swap into my CJ8 I've been very pleased with the
> Novak swap kit. They don't drill the holes in the mounts, you're free
> to locate things where they work best for you. I'm using a T-18 behind
> it and the t-case adapter to my Dana 300 case was very straight forward
> and easy.
>
> Good Luck,
> Don W


L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 09-20-2006 05:11 PM

Re: 302
 
Sounds cool.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

QuickTruck wrote:
>
> So far for my Ford swap into my CJ8 I've been very pleased with the
> Novak swap kit. They don't drill the holes in the mounts, you're free
> to locate things where they work best for you. I'm using a T-18 behind
> it and the t-case adapter to my Dana 300 case was very straight forward
> and easy.
>
> Good Luck,
> Don W


L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 09-20-2006 05:11 PM

Re: 302
 
Sounds cool.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

QuickTruck wrote:
>
> So far for my Ford swap into my CJ8 I've been very pleased with the
> Novak swap kit. They don't drill the holes in the mounts, you're free
> to locate things where they work best for you. I'm using a T-18 behind
> it and the t-case adapter to my Dana 300 case was very straight forward
> and easy.
>
> Good Luck,
> Don W



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