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rret 12-16-2005 11:51 AM

3 wheel drive?
 
i have a '92 jeep YJ wrangler. let's say for the sake of argument that
my front axle disconnect is not working when I engage 4WD HIGH via the
transfer case lever - that is, the front passenger-side axle shafts are
NOT locked together by the sliding collar, but the front differential
IS getting engine power. does that mean the two rear wheels and the
front left WHEEL (singular) are getting power? and that the front right
(passenger-side front) wheel gets no power? isn't that "3 wheel"
drive?


Steve 12-16-2005 12:08 PM

Re: 3 wheel drive?
 
Only if you have a locker in front. Yes, the front shaft is turning, but
with the stock open differential only the disconnected side will turn,
yielding zero 'drive' in the front.

Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org

rret wrote:
> i have a '92 jeep YJ wrangler. let's say for the sake of argument that
> my front axle disconnect is not working when I engage 4WD HIGH via the
> transfer case lever - that is, the front passenger-side axle shafts are
> NOT locked together by the sliding collar, but the front differential
> IS getting engine power. does that mean the two rear wheels and the
> front left WHEEL (singular) are getting power? and that the front right
> (passenger-side front) wheel gets no power? isn't that "3 wheel"
> drive?



Steve 12-16-2005 12:08 PM

Re: 3 wheel drive?
 
Only if you have a locker in front. Yes, the front shaft is turning, but
with the stock open differential only the disconnected side will turn,
yielding zero 'drive' in the front.

Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org

rret wrote:
> i have a '92 jeep YJ wrangler. let's say for the sake of argument that
> my front axle disconnect is not working when I engage 4WD HIGH via the
> transfer case lever - that is, the front passenger-side axle shafts are
> NOT locked together by the sliding collar, but the front differential
> IS getting engine power. does that mean the two rear wheels and the
> front left WHEEL (singular) are getting power? and that the front right
> (passenger-side front) wheel gets no power? isn't that "3 wheel"
> drive?



Steve 12-16-2005 12:08 PM

Re: 3 wheel drive?
 
Only if you have a locker in front. Yes, the front shaft is turning, but
with the stock open differential only the disconnected side will turn,
yielding zero 'drive' in the front.

Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org

rret wrote:
> i have a '92 jeep YJ wrangler. let's say for the sake of argument that
> my front axle disconnect is not working when I engage 4WD HIGH via the
> transfer case lever - that is, the front passenger-side axle shafts are
> NOT locked together by the sliding collar, but the front differential
> IS getting engine power. does that mean the two rear wheels and the
> front left WHEEL (singular) are getting power? and that the front right
> (passenger-side front) wheel gets no power? isn't that "3 wheel"
> drive?



Mike Romain 12-16-2005 12:15 PM

Re: 3 wheel drive?
 
The differential puts 'equal' torque to both wheels. If one is unlocked
from the axle like you state, it gets 0 torque therefore the other side
sees the same 0 torque.

Short answer, nope, only 2 wheel drive with the front axle unlatched.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

rret wrote:
>
> i have a '92 jeep YJ wrangler. let's say for the sake of argument that
> my front axle disconnect is not working when I engage 4WD HIGH via the
> transfer case lever - that is, the front passenger-side axle shafts are
> NOT locked together by the sliding collar, but the front differential
> IS getting engine power. does that mean the two rear wheels and the
> front left WHEEL (singular) are getting power? and that the front right
> (passenger-side front) wheel gets no power? isn't that "3 wheel"
> drive?


Mike Romain 12-16-2005 12:15 PM

Re: 3 wheel drive?
 
The differential puts 'equal' torque to both wheels. If one is unlocked
from the axle like you state, it gets 0 torque therefore the other side
sees the same 0 torque.

Short answer, nope, only 2 wheel drive with the front axle unlatched.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

rret wrote:
>
> i have a '92 jeep YJ wrangler. let's say for the sake of argument that
> my front axle disconnect is not working when I engage 4WD HIGH via the
> transfer case lever - that is, the front passenger-side axle shafts are
> NOT locked together by the sliding collar, but the front differential
> IS getting engine power. does that mean the two rear wheels and the
> front left WHEEL (singular) are getting power? and that the front right
> (passenger-side front) wheel gets no power? isn't that "3 wheel"
> drive?


Mike Romain 12-16-2005 12:15 PM

Re: 3 wheel drive?
 
The differential puts 'equal' torque to both wheels. If one is unlocked
from the axle like you state, it gets 0 torque therefore the other side
sees the same 0 torque.

Short answer, nope, only 2 wheel drive with the front axle unlatched.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

rret wrote:
>
> i have a '92 jeep YJ wrangler. let's say for the sake of argument that
> my front axle disconnect is not working when I engage 4WD HIGH via the
> transfer case lever - that is, the front passenger-side axle shafts are
> NOT locked together by the sliding collar, but the front differential
> IS getting engine power. does that mean the two rear wheels and the
> front left WHEEL (singular) are getting power? and that the front right
> (passenger-side front) wheel gets no power? isn't that "3 wheel"
> drive?


Robert 12-16-2005 11:53 PM

Re: 3 wheel drive?
 
Yeah ... you'll be spinning your spider gears in the front pumpkin awfully
fast ... can't be too good for it.



"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43A2F62F.BBA25C70@sympatico.ca...
> The differential puts 'equal' torque to both wheels. If one is unlocked
> from the axle like you state, it gets 0 torque therefore the other side
> sees the same 0 torque.
>
> Short answer, nope, only 2 wheel drive with the front axle unlatched.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> rret wrote:
> >
> > i have a '92 jeep YJ wrangler. let's say for the sake of argument that
> > my front axle disconnect is not working when I engage 4WD HIGH via the
> > transfer case lever - that is, the front passenger-side axle shafts are
> > NOT locked together by the sliding collar, but the front differential
> > IS getting engine power. does that mean the two rear wheels and the
> > front left WHEEL (singular) are getting power? and that the front right
> > (passenger-side front) wheel gets no power? isn't that "3 wheel"
> > drive?




Robert 12-16-2005 11:53 PM

Re: 3 wheel drive?
 
Yeah ... you'll be spinning your spider gears in the front pumpkin awfully
fast ... can't be too good for it.



"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43A2F62F.BBA25C70@sympatico.ca...
> The differential puts 'equal' torque to both wheels. If one is unlocked
> from the axle like you state, it gets 0 torque therefore the other side
> sees the same 0 torque.
>
> Short answer, nope, only 2 wheel drive with the front axle unlatched.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> rret wrote:
> >
> > i have a '92 jeep YJ wrangler. let's say for the sake of argument that
> > my front axle disconnect is not working when I engage 4WD HIGH via the
> > transfer case lever - that is, the front passenger-side axle shafts are
> > NOT locked together by the sliding collar, but the front differential
> > IS getting engine power. does that mean the two rear wheels and the
> > front left WHEEL (singular) are getting power? and that the front right
> > (passenger-side front) wheel gets no power? isn't that "3 wheel"
> > drive?




Robert 12-16-2005 11:53 PM

Re: 3 wheel drive?
 
Yeah ... you'll be spinning your spider gears in the front pumpkin awfully
fast ... can't be too good for it.



"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43A2F62F.BBA25C70@sympatico.ca...
> The differential puts 'equal' torque to both wheels. If one is unlocked
> from the axle like you state, it gets 0 torque therefore the other side
> sees the same 0 torque.
>
> Short answer, nope, only 2 wheel drive with the front axle unlatched.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> rret wrote:
> >
> > i have a '92 jeep YJ wrangler. let's say for the sake of argument that
> > my front axle disconnect is not working when I engage 4WD HIGH via the
> > transfer case lever - that is, the front passenger-side axle shafts are
> > NOT locked together by the sliding collar, but the front differential
> > IS getting engine power. does that mean the two rear wheels and the
> > front left WHEEL (singular) are getting power? and that the front right
> > (passenger-side front) wheel gets no power? isn't that "3 wheel"
> > drive?





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