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Micah 10-21-2006 10:20 PM

258 YJ with rough idle
 
I've seen this mentioned a few times on this forum as a possible
diagnosis for a poster with a rough idle complaint, but have yet to
find the solution... According to previous posts, it's "pretty easy"...
But again, no one's mentioned the easy solution.

258 with a slightly rough idle and oil blowing into the air cleaner.
Suggestions/ideas? Do I just need to find a good breather filter?


L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 10-21-2006 10:57 PM

Re: 258 YJ with rough idle
 
http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/list.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Micah wrote:
>
> I've seen this mentioned a few times on this forum as a possible
> diagnosis for a poster with a rough idle complaint, but have yet to
> find the solution... According to previous posts, it's "pretty easy"...
> But again, no one's mentioned the easy solution.
>
> 258 with a slightly rough idle and oil blowing into the air cleaner.
> Suggestions/ideas? Do I just need to find a good breather filter?


L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 10-21-2006 10:57 PM

Re: 258 YJ with rough idle
 
http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/list.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Micah wrote:
>
> I've seen this mentioned a few times on this forum as a possible
> diagnosis for a poster with a rough idle complaint, but have yet to
> find the solution... According to previous posts, it's "pretty easy"...
> But again, no one's mentioned the easy solution.
>
> 258 with a slightly rough idle and oil blowing into the air cleaner.
> Suggestions/ideas? Do I just need to find a good breather filter?


L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 10-21-2006 10:57 PM

Re: 258 YJ with rough idle
 
http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/list.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Micah wrote:
>
> I've seen this mentioned a few times on this forum as a possible
> diagnosis for a poster with a rough idle complaint, but have yet to
> find the solution... According to previous posts, it's "pretty easy"...
> But again, no one's mentioned the easy solution.
>
> 258 with a slightly rough idle and oil blowing into the air cleaner.
> Suggestions/ideas? Do I just need to find a good breather filter?


Micah 10-22-2006 01:40 AM

Re: 258 YJ with rough idle
 
i should have known. it always comes back to that one page. thanks.


Micah 10-22-2006 01:40 AM

Re: 258 YJ with rough idle
 
i should have known. it always comes back to that one page. thanks.


Micah 10-22-2006 01:40 AM

Re: 258 YJ with rough idle
 
i should have known. it always comes back to that one page. thanks.


L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 10-22-2006 02:04 AM

Re: 258 YJ with rough idle
 
Yes, it is very well written. You might check to see if your Mickey
Mouse solenoid controlled orifice has been modify to use a Positive
Crankcase Venation valve like they converted to:
http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/aircl.htm#pcv That's the part that must
clog for the blow-by to happen in the normally vacuum vent hose to the
air cleaner.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Micah wrote:
>
> i should have known. it always comes back to that one page. thanks.


L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 10-22-2006 02:04 AM

Re: 258 YJ with rough idle
 
Yes, it is very well written. You might check to see if your Mickey
Mouse solenoid controlled orifice has been modify to use a Positive
Crankcase Venation valve like they converted to:
http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/aircl.htm#pcv That's the part that must
clog for the blow-by to happen in the normally vacuum vent hose to the
air cleaner.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Micah wrote:
>
> i should have known. it always comes back to that one page. thanks.


L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 10-22-2006 02:04 AM

Re: 258 YJ with rough idle
 
Yes, it is very well written. You might check to see if your Mickey
Mouse solenoid controlled orifice has been modify to use a Positive
Crankcase Venation valve like they converted to:
http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/aircl.htm#pcv That's the part that must
clog for the blow-by to happen in the normally vacuum vent hose to the
air cleaner.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Micah wrote:
>
> i should have known. it always comes back to that one page. thanks.


Mike Romain 10-22-2006 11:12 AM

Re: 258 YJ with rough idle
 
If you read around the links Bill posted it outlines where the common
leaks are that can cause the blow by.

Some other causes: If you trace the PCV line along the valve cover, you
will come to a 90 elbow. Make sure this hasn't collapsed.

Then continue on to the back of the engine on the PCV line and at the T
or solenoid thing behind the carb, you will find a line going to the
charcoal canister that sits 'way' down under the washer bottle on the
fender bottom.

At idle pinch this line to the canister closed. If the idle changes,
the canister is worn out and needs replacing. It is the gas tank and
carb float bowl vent and is needed.

When leaking, the canister basically shuts down the PCV system causing
the oil to blow into the air filter and a bad or surging idle.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Micah wrote:
>
> I've seen this mentioned a few times on this forum as a possible
> diagnosis for a poster with a rough idle complaint, but have yet to
> find the solution... According to previous posts, it's "pretty easy"...
> But again, no one's mentioned the easy solution.
>
> 258 with a slightly rough idle and oil blowing into the air cleaner.
> Suggestions/ideas? Do I just need to find a good breather filter?


Mike Romain 10-22-2006 11:12 AM

Re: 258 YJ with rough idle
 
If you read around the links Bill posted it outlines where the common
leaks are that can cause the blow by.

Some other causes: If you trace the PCV line along the valve cover, you
will come to a 90 elbow. Make sure this hasn't collapsed.

Then continue on to the back of the engine on the PCV line and at the T
or solenoid thing behind the carb, you will find a line going to the
charcoal canister that sits 'way' down under the washer bottle on the
fender bottom.

At idle pinch this line to the canister closed. If the idle changes,
the canister is worn out and needs replacing. It is the gas tank and
carb float bowl vent and is needed.

When leaking, the canister basically shuts down the PCV system causing
the oil to blow into the air filter and a bad or surging idle.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Micah wrote:
>
> I've seen this mentioned a few times on this forum as a possible
> diagnosis for a poster with a rough idle complaint, but have yet to
> find the solution... According to previous posts, it's "pretty easy"...
> But again, no one's mentioned the easy solution.
>
> 258 with a slightly rough idle and oil blowing into the air cleaner.
> Suggestions/ideas? Do I just need to find a good breather filter?


Mike Romain 10-22-2006 11:12 AM

Re: 258 YJ with rough idle
 
If you read around the links Bill posted it outlines where the common
leaks are that can cause the blow by.

Some other causes: If you trace the PCV line along the valve cover, you
will come to a 90 elbow. Make sure this hasn't collapsed.

Then continue on to the back of the engine on the PCV line and at the T
or solenoid thing behind the carb, you will find a line going to the
charcoal canister that sits 'way' down under the washer bottle on the
fender bottom.

At idle pinch this line to the canister closed. If the idle changes,
the canister is worn out and needs replacing. It is the gas tank and
carb float bowl vent and is needed.

When leaking, the canister basically shuts down the PCV system causing
the oil to blow into the air filter and a bad or surging idle.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Micah wrote:
>
> I've seen this mentioned a few times on this forum as a possible
> diagnosis for a poster with a rough idle complaint, but have yet to
> find the solution... According to previous posts, it's "pretty easy"...
> But again, no one's mentioned the easy solution.
>
> 258 with a slightly rough idle and oil blowing into the air cleaner.
> Suggestions/ideas? Do I just need to find a good breather filter?



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