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Re: 2007 Wrangler???
The new V6 has more torque & HP at higher RPMs but at low RPMs where it
counts on the trail, the I6 still delivers more torque. Jeep has been very careful to not show the torque curve of that engine in quite some time to avoid easy comparisons. jcarter10@comcast.net wrote: > It sounds terrific to me. And don't count out the V-6 unitl you try it. It > has MORE TORQUE and horsepower than the old, inefficient AMC I-6 which has > seen better days. (I'm running for cover now!!!) > > > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message > news:8_cAf.14992$V.2127@fed1read04... > >>Only one or two minor dislikes like the new V6 engine. However, I've read >>up on it pretty thoroughly and it's every bit the Wrangler as any previous >>Wrangler was. Lots of improvments like the electronically actuated front >>antiswaybar. If it wouldn't take me the same nine years to get it to the >>level of my current Wrangler, I'd spring for one. It could have been a >>lot worse, it could have had the better riding but worse performing >>offroad IFS that so many feared. >> >>jcarter10@comcast.net wrote: >> >>>There's plenty of information on Jeep.com about it. So has anyone formed >>>any opinions yet?? >> >>-- >>Jerry Bransford >>PP-ASEL N6TAY >>See the Geezer Jeep at >>http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > > -- Jerry Bransford PP-ASEL N6TAY See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: 2007 Wrangler???
The new V6 has more torque & HP at higher RPMs but at low RPMs where it
counts on the trail, the I6 still delivers more torque. Jeep has been very careful to not show the torque curve of that engine in quite some time to avoid easy comparisons. jcarter10@comcast.net wrote: > It sounds terrific to me. And don't count out the V-6 unitl you try it. It > has MORE TORQUE and horsepower than the old, inefficient AMC I-6 which has > seen better days. (I'm running for cover now!!!) > > > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message > news:8_cAf.14992$V.2127@fed1read04... > >>Only one or two minor dislikes like the new V6 engine. However, I've read >>up on it pretty thoroughly and it's every bit the Wrangler as any previous >>Wrangler was. Lots of improvments like the electronically actuated front >>antiswaybar. If it wouldn't take me the same nine years to get it to the >>level of my current Wrangler, I'd spring for one. It could have been a >>lot worse, it could have had the better riding but worse performing >>offroad IFS that so many feared. >> >>jcarter10@comcast.net wrote: >> >>>There's plenty of information on Jeep.com about it. So has anyone formed >>>any opinions yet?? >> >>-- >>Jerry Bransford >>PP-ASEL N6TAY >>See the Geezer Jeep at >>http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > > -- Jerry Bransford PP-ASEL N6TAY See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: 2007 Wrangler???
The new V6 has more torque & HP at higher RPMs but at low RPMs where it
counts on the trail, the I6 still delivers more torque. Jeep has been very careful to not show the torque curve of that engine in quite some time to avoid easy comparisons. jcarter10@comcast.net wrote: > It sounds terrific to me. And don't count out the V-6 unitl you try it. It > has MORE TORQUE and horsepower than the old, inefficient AMC I-6 which has > seen better days. (I'm running for cover now!!!) > > > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message > news:8_cAf.14992$V.2127@fed1read04... > >>Only one or two minor dislikes like the new V6 engine. However, I've read >>up on it pretty thoroughly and it's every bit the Wrangler as any previous >>Wrangler was. Lots of improvments like the electronically actuated front >>antiswaybar. If it wouldn't take me the same nine years to get it to the >>level of my current Wrangler, I'd spring for one. It could have been a >>lot worse, it could have had the better riding but worse performing >>offroad IFS that so many feared. >> >>jcarter10@comcast.net wrote: >> >>>There's plenty of information on Jeep.com about it. So has anyone formed >>>any opinions yet?? >> >>-- >>Jerry Bransford >>PP-ASEL N6TAY >>See the Geezer Jeep at >>http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > > -- Jerry Bransford PP-ASEL N6TAY See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: 2007 Wrangler???
It might be old, but it's tried and true and has never let me down.
Carl <jcarter10@comcast.net> wrote in message news:HdKdndsXBdjI-0zeRVn-hg@comcast.com... > It sounds terrific to me. And don't count out the V-6 unitl you try it. It > has MORE TORQUE and horsepower than the old, inefficient AMC I-6 which has > seen better days. (I'm running for cover now!!!) > > > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message > news:8_cAf.14992$V.2127@fed1read04... >> Only one or two minor dislikes like the new V6 engine. However, I've read >> up on it pretty thoroughly and it's every bit the Wrangler as any >> previous Wrangler was. Lots of improvments like the electronically >> actuated front antiswaybar. If it wouldn't take me the same nine years >> to get it to the level of my current Wrangler, I'd spring for one. It >> could have been a lot worse, it could have had the better riding but >> worse performing offroad IFS that so many feared. >> >> jcarter10@comcast.net wrote: >>> There's plenty of information on Jeep.com about it. So has anyone formed >>> any opinions yet?? >> >> -- >> Jerry Bransford >> PP-ASEL N6TAY >> See the Geezer Jeep at >> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > |
Re: 2007 Wrangler???
It might be old, but it's tried and true and has never let me down.
Carl <jcarter10@comcast.net> wrote in message news:HdKdndsXBdjI-0zeRVn-hg@comcast.com... > It sounds terrific to me. And don't count out the V-6 unitl you try it. It > has MORE TORQUE and horsepower than the old, inefficient AMC I-6 which has > seen better days. (I'm running for cover now!!!) > > > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message > news:8_cAf.14992$V.2127@fed1read04... >> Only one or two minor dislikes like the new V6 engine. However, I've read >> up on it pretty thoroughly and it's every bit the Wrangler as any >> previous Wrangler was. Lots of improvments like the electronically >> actuated front antiswaybar. If it wouldn't take me the same nine years >> to get it to the level of my current Wrangler, I'd spring for one. It >> could have been a lot worse, it could have had the better riding but >> worse performing offroad IFS that so many feared. >> >> jcarter10@comcast.net wrote: >>> There's plenty of information on Jeep.com about it. So has anyone formed >>> any opinions yet?? >> >> -- >> Jerry Bransford >> PP-ASEL N6TAY >> See the Geezer Jeep at >> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > |
Re: 2007 Wrangler???
It might be old, but it's tried and true and has never let me down.
Carl <jcarter10@comcast.net> wrote in message news:HdKdndsXBdjI-0zeRVn-hg@comcast.com... > It sounds terrific to me. And don't count out the V-6 unitl you try it. It > has MORE TORQUE and horsepower than the old, inefficient AMC I-6 which has > seen better days. (I'm running for cover now!!!) > > > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message > news:8_cAf.14992$V.2127@fed1read04... >> Only one or two minor dislikes like the new V6 engine. However, I've read >> up on it pretty thoroughly and it's every bit the Wrangler as any >> previous Wrangler was. Lots of improvments like the electronically >> actuated front antiswaybar. If it wouldn't take me the same nine years >> to get it to the level of my current Wrangler, I'd spring for one. It >> could have been a lot worse, it could have had the better riding but >> worse performing offroad IFS that so many feared. >> >> jcarter10@comcast.net wrote: >>> There's plenty of information on Jeep.com about it. So has anyone formed >>> any opinions yet?? >> >> -- >> Jerry Bransford >> PP-ASEL N6TAY >> See the Geezer Jeep at >> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > |
Re: 2007 Wrangler???
Coasty wrote:
> Only time will tell the I-6 is pretty much bullet proof and many have 200k > or more with out any rebuilds. I am just glad I got mine. It has it's good points... it's tough... it's got lots of low end torque... actually that's it... 2 good points :) I think you could give it a plus for having a decent selection of aftermarket parts.... One Aluminum 4.0 conversion head, basically 2 "performance" intakes (Offy and Clifford)... a handfull of headers... a couple home brew ignition mods (HEI and TFI) and a few aftermarkets like MSD... and there's a few stroker options. A couple Carbs and a huge selection of fuel injection kits. There are no block options, although Hesco was talking about an Aluminum 4.0 block for a little while... it seems to be dead in the water. The bad points are; it's heavy, it's HUGE relative to it's output... For it's displacment many modern engines have more than triple the HP and Torque output. It's a gas sucker even ignoring the Jeeps aerodynamic faults, it has an almost absurdly small useable RPM range. It's basically twice the size, and 150 pounds heavier than anything else putting out 100-ish rear wheel HP. Couple that with the Jeep and you have an engine that often strugles to go up hills at highway speed once it gets a bit tired or out of tune. All that said, it does have a certain character to it, but when I find the right excuse it's gone from my 88 YJ. Maybe a 5.0 or 4.7 Mustang engine (lots of aftermarket, wont be the first one to do the swap) or maybe a CRD from the Libby (hopfully someone else will have done one by the time I need to). -- Simon "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein |
Re: 2007 Wrangler???
Coasty wrote:
> Only time will tell the I-6 is pretty much bullet proof and many have 200k > or more with out any rebuilds. I am just glad I got mine. It has it's good points... it's tough... it's got lots of low end torque... actually that's it... 2 good points :) I think you could give it a plus for having a decent selection of aftermarket parts.... One Aluminum 4.0 conversion head, basically 2 "performance" intakes (Offy and Clifford)... a handfull of headers... a couple home brew ignition mods (HEI and TFI) and a few aftermarkets like MSD... and there's a few stroker options. A couple Carbs and a huge selection of fuel injection kits. There are no block options, although Hesco was talking about an Aluminum 4.0 block for a little while... it seems to be dead in the water. The bad points are; it's heavy, it's HUGE relative to it's output... For it's displacment many modern engines have more than triple the HP and Torque output. It's a gas sucker even ignoring the Jeeps aerodynamic faults, it has an almost absurdly small useable RPM range. It's basically twice the size, and 150 pounds heavier than anything else putting out 100-ish rear wheel HP. Couple that with the Jeep and you have an engine that often strugles to go up hills at highway speed once it gets a bit tired or out of tune. All that said, it does have a certain character to it, but when I find the right excuse it's gone from my 88 YJ. Maybe a 5.0 or 4.7 Mustang engine (lots of aftermarket, wont be the first one to do the swap) or maybe a CRD from the Libby (hopfully someone else will have done one by the time I need to). -- Simon "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein |
Re: 2007 Wrangler???
Coasty wrote:
> Only time will tell the I-6 is pretty much bullet proof and many have 200k > or more with out any rebuilds. I am just glad I got mine. It has it's good points... it's tough... it's got lots of low end torque... actually that's it... 2 good points :) I think you could give it a plus for having a decent selection of aftermarket parts.... One Aluminum 4.0 conversion head, basically 2 "performance" intakes (Offy and Clifford)... a handfull of headers... a couple home brew ignition mods (HEI and TFI) and a few aftermarkets like MSD... and there's a few stroker options. A couple Carbs and a huge selection of fuel injection kits. There are no block options, although Hesco was talking about an Aluminum 4.0 block for a little while... it seems to be dead in the water. The bad points are; it's heavy, it's HUGE relative to it's output... For it's displacment many modern engines have more than triple the HP and Torque output. It's a gas sucker even ignoring the Jeeps aerodynamic faults, it has an almost absurdly small useable RPM range. It's basically twice the size, and 150 pounds heavier than anything else putting out 100-ish rear wheel HP. Couple that with the Jeep and you have an engine that often strugles to go up hills at highway speed once it gets a bit tired or out of tune. All that said, it does have a certain character to it, but when I find the right excuse it's gone from my 88 YJ. Maybe a 5.0 or 4.7 Mustang engine (lots of aftermarket, wont be the first one to do the swap) or maybe a CRD from the Libby (hopfully someone else will have done one by the time I need to). -- Simon "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein |
Re: 2007 Wrangler???
If you want to buy me one, there is a place in Denver I can take it to get
dyno'ed. ;^) Earle "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message news:DOeAf.15002$V.14174@fed1read04... > The new V6 has more torque & HP at higher RPMs but at low RPMs where it > counts on the trail, the I6 still delivers more torque. Jeep has been > very careful to not show the torque curve of that engine in quite some > time to avoid easy comparisons. > > jcarter10@comcast.net wrote: > > It sounds terrific to me. And don't count out the V-6 unitl you try it. It > > has MORE TORQUE and horsepower than the old, inefficient AMC I-6 which has > > seen better days. (I'm running for cover now!!!) > > > > > > > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message > > news:8_cAf.14992$V.2127@fed1read04... > > > >>Only one or two minor dislikes like the new V6 engine. However, I've read > >>up on it pretty thoroughly and it's every bit the Wrangler as any previous > >>Wrangler was. Lots of improvments like the electronically actuated front > >>antiswaybar. If it wouldn't take me the same nine years to get it to the > >>level of my current Wrangler, I'd spring for one. It could have been a > >>lot worse, it could have had the better riding but worse performing > >>offroad IFS that so many feared. > >> > >>jcarter10@comcast.net wrote: > >> > >>>There's plenty of information on Jeep.com about it. So has anyone formed > >>>any opinions yet?? > >> > >>-- > >>Jerry Bransford > >>PP-ASEL N6TAY > >>See the Geezer Jeep at > >>http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > > > > > > > -- > Jerry Bransford > PP-ASEL N6TAY > See the Geezer Jeep at > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
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