2004 Wrangler Leaks when rains
 

I am new to Jeep and I have never owned a Jeep before. My wrangler (soft
top with half doors) has a small pool of water developing in the floor
section of drivers side only. During one heavy rain storm there was a
constant driping on my foot as I drove coming from above the accelerator
pedal. The passenger side stays dry. I need to bring it back to the
dealer to get it fixed.

My real question. What should I expect from them? Is it possible to have
a jeep that does not leak? Or should I just rip out the carpeting now?

-jpl-

Re: 2004 Wrangler Leaks when rains
 

"Jean-Paul Lanaux" <jpl@jplanaux.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b10da60a7966d6c98968a@netnews.worldnet.a tt.net...
> I am new to Jeep and I have never owned a Jeep before. My wrangler (soft
> top with half doors) has a small pool of water developing in the floor
> section of drivers side only. During one heavy rain storm there was a
> constant driping on my foot as I drove coming from above the accelerator
> pedal. The passenger side stays dry. I need to bring it back to the
> dealer to get it fixed.
>
> My real question. What should I expect from them? Is it possible to have
> a jeep that does not leak? Or should I just rip out the carpeting now?
>
> -jpl-

Mine doesn't leak! (03 TJ rag top)

L8r - Jersey

Re: 2004 Wrangler Leaks when rains
 

"Jean-Paul Lanaux" <jpl@jplanaux.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b10da60a7966d6c98968a@netnews.worldnet.a tt.net...
> I am new to Jeep and I have never owned a Jeep before. My wrangler (soft
> top with half doors) has a small pool of water developing in the floor
> section of drivers side only. During one heavy rain storm there was a
> constant driping on my foot as I drove coming from above the accelerator
> pedal. The passenger side stays dry. I need to bring it back to the
> dealer to get it fixed.
>
> My real question. What should I expect from them? Is it possible to have
> a jeep that does not leak? Or should I just rip out the carpeting now?
>
> -jpl-

Mine doesn't leak! (03 TJ rag top)

L8r - Jersey

Re: 2004 Wrangler Leaks when rains
 

"Jean-Paul Lanaux" <jpl@jplanaux.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b10da60a7966d6c98968a@netnews.worldnet.a tt.net...
> I am new to Jeep and I have never owned a Jeep before. My wrangler (soft
> top with half doors) has a small pool of water developing in the floor
> section of drivers side only. During one heavy rain storm there was a
> constant driping on my foot as I drove coming from above the accelerator
> pedal. The passenger side stays dry. I need to bring it back to the
> dealer to get it fixed.
>
> My real question. What should I expect from them? Is it possible to have
> a jeep that does not leak? Or should I just rip out the carpeting now?
>
> -jpl-

Mine doesn't leak! (03 TJ rag top)

L8r - Jersey

Re: 2004 Wrangler Leaks when rains
 

"Jean-Paul Lanaux" <jpl@jplanaux.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b10da60a7966d6c98968a@netnews.worldnet.a tt.net...
> I am new to Jeep and I have never owned a Jeep before. My wrangler (soft
> top with half doors) has a small pool of water developing in the floor
> section of drivers side only. During one heavy rain storm there was a
> constant driping on my foot as I drove coming from above the accelerator
> pedal. The passenger side stays dry. I need to bring it back to the
> dealer to get it fixed.
>
> My real question. What should I expect from them? Is it possible to have
> a jeep that does not leak? Or should I just rip out the carpeting now?
>
> -jpl-

Mine doesn't leak! (03 TJ rag top)

L8r - Jersey

Re: 2004 Wrangler Leaks when rains
 

It shouldn't leak. Perhaps the driver's side seal isn't fitted properly.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "Jean-Paul Lanaux" <jpl@jplanaux.com> wrote in message
Is it possible to have
> > a jeep that does not leak? Or should I just rip out the carpeting now?

Re: 2004 Wrangler Leaks when rains
 

It shouldn't leak. Perhaps the driver's side seal isn't fitted properly.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "Jean-Paul Lanaux" <jpl@jplanaux.com> wrote in message
Is it possible to have
> > a jeep that does not leak? Or should I just rip out the carpeting now?

Re: 2004 Wrangler Leaks when rains
 

It shouldn't leak. Perhaps the driver's side seal isn't fitted properly.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "Jean-Paul Lanaux" <jpl@jplanaux.com> wrote in message
Is it possible to have
> > a jeep that does not leak? Or should I just rip out the carpeting now?

Re: 2004 Wrangler Leaks when rains
 

It shouldn't leak. Perhaps the driver's side seal isn't fitted properly.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "Jean-Paul Lanaux" <jpl@jplanaux.com> wrote in message
Is it possible to have
> > a jeep that does not leak? Or should I just rip out the carpeting now?

Re: 2004 Wrangler Leaks when rains
 

It should not leak...much. EArly TJs tended to leak from the cowl vent onto
the passenger side floor. Where you describe sould like possibly the
windshield seal, etc. Best way to find it is to button everything up, get
under the dash with a flashlight and have someone spray a hard stream of
water on the entire winshield area. After your back has about given out and
you're ready for traction it's likely the leak will make itself eveident.
(This is just one of the reasons I quit wrenching for a living about 22
years ago!)
"Jersey" <IamHellbound@nospam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:G4GdnWOz-qZVwzrd4p2dnA@comcast.com...
>
> "Jean-Paul Lanaux" <jpl@jplanaux.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1b10da60a7966d6c98968a@netnews.worldnet.a tt.net...
> > I am new to Jeep and I have never owned a Jeep before. My wrangler (soft
> > top with half doors) has a small pool of water developing in the floor
> > section of drivers side only. During one heavy rain storm there was a
> > constant driping on my foot as I drove coming from above the accelerator
> > pedal. The passenger side stays dry. I need to bring it back to the
> > dealer to get it fixed.
> >
> > My real question. What should I expect from them? Is it possible to have
> > a jeep that does not leak? Or should I just rip out the carpeting now?
> >
> > -jpl-
>
> Mine doesn't leak! (03 TJ rag top)
>
> L8r - Jersey
>
>

Re: 2004 Wrangler Leaks when rains
 

It should not leak...much. EArly TJs tended to leak from the cowl vent onto
the passenger side floor. Where you describe sould like possibly the
windshield seal, etc. Best way to find it is to button everything up, get
under the dash with a flashlight and have someone spray a hard stream of
water on the entire winshield area. After your back has about given out and
you're ready for traction it's likely the leak will make itself eveident.
(This is just one of the reasons I quit wrenching for a living about 22
years ago!)
"Jersey" <IamHellbound@nospam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:G4GdnWOz-qZVwzrd4p2dnA@comcast.com...
>
> "Jean-Paul Lanaux" <jpl@jplanaux.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1b10da60a7966d6c98968a@netnews.worldnet.a tt.net...
> > I am new to Jeep and I have never owned a Jeep before. My wrangler (soft
> > top with half doors) has a small pool of water developing in the floor
> > section of drivers side only. During one heavy rain storm there was a
> > constant driping on my foot as I drove coming from above the accelerator
> > pedal. The passenger side stays dry. I need to bring it back to the
> > dealer to get it fixed.
> >
> > My real question. What should I expect from them? Is it possible to have
> > a jeep that does not leak? Or should I just rip out the carpeting now?
> >
> > -jpl-
>
> Mine doesn't leak! (03 TJ rag top)
>
> L8r - Jersey
>
>

Re: 2004 Wrangler Leaks when rains
 

It should not leak...much. EArly TJs tended to leak from the cowl vent onto
the passenger side floor. Where you describe sould like possibly the
windshield seal, etc. Best way to find it is to button everything up, get
under the dash with a flashlight and have someone spray a hard stream of
water on the entire winshield area. After your back has about given out and
you're ready for traction it's likely the leak will make itself eveident.
(This is just one of the reasons I quit wrenching for a living about 22
years ago!)
"Jersey" <IamHellbound@nospam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:G4GdnWOz-qZVwzrd4p2dnA@comcast.com...
>
> "Jean-Paul Lanaux" <jpl@jplanaux.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1b10da60a7966d6c98968a@netnews.worldnet.a tt.net...
> > I am new to Jeep and I have never owned a Jeep before. My wrangler (soft
> > top with half doors) has a small pool of water developing in the floor
> > section of drivers side only. During one heavy rain storm there was a
> > constant driping on my foot as I drove coming from above the accelerator
> > pedal. The passenger side stays dry. I need to bring it back to the
> > dealer to get it fixed.
> >
> > My real question. What should I expect from them? Is it possible to have
> > a jeep that does not leak? Or should I just rip out the carpeting now?
> >
> > -jpl-
>
> Mine doesn't leak! (03 TJ rag top)
>
> L8r - Jersey
>
>

Re: 2004 Wrangler Leaks when rains
 

It should not leak...much. EArly TJs tended to leak from the cowl vent onto
the passenger side floor. Where you describe sould like possibly the
windshield seal, etc. Best way to find it is to button everything up, get
under the dash with a flashlight and have someone spray a hard stream of
water on the entire winshield area. After your back has about given out and
you're ready for traction it's likely the leak will make itself eveident.
(This is just one of the reasons I quit wrenching for a living about 22
years ago!)
"Jersey" <IamHellbound@nospam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:G4GdnWOz-qZVwzrd4p2dnA@comcast.com...
>
> "Jean-Paul Lanaux" <jpl@jplanaux.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1b10da60a7966d6c98968a@netnews.worldnet.a tt.net...
> > I am new to Jeep and I have never owned a Jeep before. My wrangler (soft
> > top with half doors) has a small pool of water developing in the floor
> > section of drivers side only. During one heavy rain storm there was a
> > constant driping on my foot as I drove coming from above the accelerator
> > pedal. The passenger side stays dry. I need to bring it back to the
> > dealer to get it fixed.
> >
> > My real question. What should I expect from them? Is it possible to have
> > a jeep that does not leak? Or should I just rip out the carpeting now?
> >
> > -jpl-
>
> Mine doesn't leak! (03 TJ rag top)
>
> L8r - Jersey
>
>

Re: 2004 Wrangler Leaks when rains
 

Just rip out the carpeting now. And open the drains.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jean-Paul Lanaux wrote:
>
> I am new to Jeep and I have never owned a Jeep before. My wrangler (soft
> top with half doors) has a small pool of water developing in the floor
> section of drivers side only. During one heavy rain storm there was a
> constant driping on my foot as I drove coming from above the accelerator
> pedal. The passenger side stays dry. I need to bring it back to the
> dealer to get it fixed.
>
> My real question. What should I expect from them? Is it possible to have
> a jeep that does not leak? Or should I just rip out the carpeting now?
>
> -jpl-

Re: 2004 Wrangler Leaks when rains
 

Just rip out the carpeting now. And open the drains.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jean-Paul Lanaux wrote:
>
> I am new to Jeep and I have never owned a Jeep before. My wrangler (soft
> top with half doors) has a small pool of water developing in the floor
> section of drivers side only. During one heavy rain storm there was a
> constant driping on my foot as I drove coming from above the accelerator
> pedal. The passenger side stays dry. I need to bring it back to the
> dealer to get it fixed.
>
> My real question. What should I expect from them? Is it possible to have
> a jeep that does not leak? Or should I just rip out the carpeting now?
>
> -jpl-

Re: 2004 Wrangler Leaks when rains
 

Just rip out the carpeting now. And open the drains.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jean-Paul Lanaux wrote:
>
> I am new to Jeep and I have never owned a Jeep before. My wrangler (soft
> top with half doors) has a small pool of water developing in the floor
> section of drivers side only. During one heavy rain storm there was a
> constant driping on my foot as I drove coming from above the accelerator
> pedal. The passenger side stays dry. I need to bring it back to the
> dealer to get it fixed.
>
> My real question. What should I expect from them? Is it possible to have
> a jeep that does not leak? Or should I just rip out the carpeting now?
>
> -jpl-

Re: 2004 Wrangler Leaks when rains
 

Just rip out the carpeting now. And open the drains.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jean-Paul Lanaux wrote:
>
> I am new to Jeep and I have never owned a Jeep before. My wrangler (soft
> top with half doors) has a small pool of water developing in the floor
> section of drivers side only. During one heavy rain storm there was a
> constant driping on my foot as I drove coming from above the accelerator
> pedal. The passenger side stays dry. I need to bring it back to the
> dealer to get it fixed.
>
> My real question. What should I expect from them? Is it possible to have
> a jeep that does not leak? Or should I just rip out the carpeting now?
>
> -jpl-

Re: 2004 Wrangler Leaks when rains
 

"Jean-Paul Lanaux" <jpl@jplanaux.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b10da60a7966d6c98968a@netnews.worldnet.a tt.net...
> I am new to Jeep and I have never owned a Jeep before. My wrangler (soft
> top with half doors) has a small pool of water developing in the floor
> section of drivers side only. During one heavy rain storm there was a
> constant driping on my foot as I drove coming from above the accelerator
> pedal. The passenger side stays dry. I need to bring it back to the
> dealer to get it fixed.
>
> My real question. What should I expect from them? Is it possible to have
> a jeep that does not leak? Or should I just rip out the carpeting now?

That isn't a leak.
That is the Daimler-Chrysler freshwater distribution system (patent
pending).
If you're in the desert with your Jeep you get fresh water from the morning
dew.

Re: 2004 Wrangler Leaks when rains
 

"Jean-Paul Lanaux" <jpl@jplanaux.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b10da60a7966d6c98968a@netnews.worldnet.a tt.net...
> I am new to Jeep and I have never owned a Jeep before. My wrangler (soft
> top with half doors) has a small pool of water developing in the floor
> section of drivers side only. During one heavy rain storm there was a
> constant driping on my foot as I drove coming from above the accelerator
> pedal. The passenger side stays dry. I need to bring it back to the
> dealer to get it fixed.
>
> My real question. What should I expect from them? Is it possible to have
> a jeep that does not leak? Or should I just rip out the carpeting now?

That isn't a leak.
That is the Daimler-Chrysler freshwater distribution system (patent
pending).
If you're in the desert with your Jeep you get fresh water from the morning
dew.

Re: 2004 Wrangler Leaks when rains
 

"Jean-Paul Lanaux" <jpl@jplanaux.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b10da60a7966d6c98968a@netnews.worldnet.a tt.net...
> I am new to Jeep and I have never owned a Jeep before. My wrangler (soft
> top with half doors) has a small pool of water developing in the floor
> section of drivers side only. During one heavy rain storm there was a
> constant driping on my foot as I drove coming from above the accelerator
> pedal. The passenger side stays dry. I need to bring it back to the
> dealer to get it fixed.
>
> My real question. What should I expect from them? Is it possible to have
> a jeep that does not leak? Or should I just rip out the carpeting now?

That isn't a leak.
That is the Daimler-Chrysler freshwater distribution system (patent
pending).
If you're in the desert with your Jeep you get fresh water from the morning
dew.

Re: 2004 Wrangler Leaks when rains
 

"Jean-Paul Lanaux" <jpl@jplanaux.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b10da60a7966d6c98968a@netnews.worldnet.a tt.net...
> I am new to Jeep and I have never owned a Jeep before. My wrangler (soft
> top with half doors) has a small pool of water developing in the floor
> section of drivers side only. During one heavy rain storm there was a
> constant driping on my foot as I drove coming from above the accelerator
> pedal. The passenger side stays dry. I need to bring it back to the
> dealer to get it fixed.
>
> My real question. What should I expect from them? Is it possible to have
> a jeep that does not leak? Or should I just rip out the carpeting now?

That isn't a leak.
That is the Daimler-Chrysler freshwater distribution system (patent
pending).
If you're in the desert with your Jeep you get fresh water from the morning
dew.

Re: 2004 Wrangler Leaks when rains
 

Jean-paul, The Wrangler is prone to leaks. I've had two: a 1999 that Daimler
reaplced under my state's lemon law (for water leaks and other problems) and
a 2002 that replaced it. Both took repeated trips to the dealer to get the
leaks fixed.

The 1999 was a hardtop, and the only way the dealer could get it to stop
leaking was to glue the top on with silicone (this was after they had
damaged teh tub while tryig to fix it). The 2002 is pretty much leak free
except when I wash it with a spray hose. The softop/half doors actually
seals out water a little better because of the overlaps that cause water to
run past places where the others are exopsed.

Possible sources: air intake for a/c-heating system, Windshield seal, body
seams between tub and wheelwell in rear fender, windshield frame to body
seal. You may have more than one leak!!! Most likely is the windshield if it
drips on your foot. If it only does it when you drive, and the water is
muddy like road film, then suspect the body seams. If it pools on passenger
side when parked, then a/c intake.

Good luck!

"Jean-Paul Lanaux" <jpl@jplanaux.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b10da60a7966d6c98968a@netnews.worldnet.a tt.net...
> I am new to Jeep and I have never owned a Jeep before. My wrangler (soft
> top with half doors) has a small pool of water developing in the floor
> section of drivers side only. During one heavy rain storm there was a
> constant driping on my foot as I drove coming from above the accelerator
> pedal. The passenger side stays dry. I need to bring it back to the
> dealer to get it fixed.
>
> My real question. What should I expect from them? Is it possible to have
> a jeep that does not leak? Or should I just rip out the carpeting now?
>
> -jpl-

Re: 2004 Wrangler Leaks when rains
 

Jean-paul, The Wrangler is prone to leaks. I've had two: a 1999 that Daimler
reaplced under my state's lemon law (for water leaks and other problems) and
a 2002 that replaced it. Both took repeated trips to the dealer to get the
leaks fixed.

The 1999 was a hardtop, and the only way the dealer could get it to stop
leaking was to glue the top on with silicone (this was after they had
damaged teh tub while tryig to fix it). The 2002 is pretty much leak free
except when I wash it with a spray hose. The softop/half doors actually
seals out water a little better because of the overlaps that cause water to
run past places where the others are exopsed.

Possible sources: air intake for a/c-heating system, Windshield seal, body
seams between tub and wheelwell in rear fender, windshield frame to body
seal. You may have more than one leak!!! Most likely is the windshield if it
drips on your foot. If it only does it when you drive, and the water is
muddy like road film, then suspect the body seams. If it pools on passenger
side when parked, then a/c intake.

Good luck!

"Jean-Paul Lanaux" <jpl@jplanaux.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b10da60a7966d6c98968a@netnews.worldnet.a tt.net...
> I am new to Jeep and I have never owned a Jeep before. My wrangler (soft
> top with half doors) has a small pool of water developing in the floor
> section of drivers side only. During one heavy rain storm there was a
> constant driping on my foot as I drove coming from above the accelerator
> pedal. The passenger side stays dry. I need to bring it back to the
> dealer to get it fixed.
>
> My real question. What should I expect from them? Is it possible to have
> a jeep that does not leak? Or should I just rip out the carpeting now?
>
> -jpl-

Re: 2004 Wrangler Leaks when rains
 

Jean-paul, The Wrangler is prone to leaks. I've had two: a 1999 that Daimler
reaplced under my state's lemon law (for water leaks and other problems) and
a 2002 that replaced it. Both took repeated trips to the dealer to get the
leaks fixed.

The 1999 was a hardtop, and the only way the dealer could get it to stop
leaking was to glue the top on with silicone (this was after they had
damaged teh tub while tryig to fix it). The 2002 is pretty much leak free
except when I wash it with a spray hose. The softop/half doors actually
seals out water a little better because of the overlaps that cause water to
run past places where the others are exopsed.

Possible sources: air intake for a/c-heating system, Windshield seal, body
seams between tub and wheelwell in rear fender, windshield frame to body
seal. You may have more than one leak!!! Most likely is the windshield if it
drips on your foot. If it only does it when you drive, and the water is
muddy like road film, then suspect the body seams. If it pools on passenger
side when parked, then a/c intake.

Good luck!

"Jean-Paul Lanaux" <jpl@jplanaux.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b10da60a7966d6c98968a@netnews.worldnet.a tt.net...
> I am new to Jeep and I have never owned a Jeep before. My wrangler (soft
> top with half doors) has a small pool of water developing in the floor
> section of drivers side only. During one heavy rain storm there was a
> constant driping on my foot as I drove coming from above the accelerator
> pedal. The passenger side stays dry. I need to bring it back to the
> dealer to get it fixed.
>
> My real question. What should I expect from them? Is it possible to have
> a jeep that does not leak? Or should I just rip out the carpeting now?
>
> -jpl-

Re: 2004 Wrangler Leaks when rains
 

Jean-paul, The Wrangler is prone to leaks. I've had two: a 1999 that Daimler
reaplced under my state's lemon law (for water leaks and other problems) and
a 2002 that replaced it. Both took repeated trips to the dealer to get the
leaks fixed.

The 1999 was a hardtop, and the only way the dealer could get it to stop
leaking was to glue the top on with silicone (this was after they had
damaged teh tub while tryig to fix it). The 2002 is pretty much leak free
except when I wash it with a spray hose. The softop/half doors actually
seals out water a little better because of the overlaps that cause water to
run past places where the others are exopsed.

Possible sources: air intake for a/c-heating system, Windshield seal, body
seams between tub and wheelwell in rear fender, windshield frame to body
seal. You may have more than one leak!!! Most likely is the windshield if it
drips on your foot. If it only does it when you drive, and the water is
muddy like road film, then suspect the body seams. If it pools on passenger
side when parked, then a/c intake.

Good luck!

"Jean-Paul Lanaux" <jpl@jplanaux.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b10da60a7966d6c98968a@netnews.worldnet.a tt.net...
> I am new to Jeep and I have never owned a Jeep before. My wrangler (soft
> top with half doors) has a small pool of water developing in the floor
> section of drivers side only. During one heavy rain storm there was a
> constant driping on my foot as I drove coming from above the accelerator
> pedal. The passenger side stays dry. I need to bring it back to the
> dealer to get it fixed.
>
> My real question. What should I expect from them? Is it possible to have
> a jeep that does not leak? Or should I just rip out the carpeting now?
>
> -jpl-

Re: 2004 Wrangler Leaks when rains
 

I purchased an '03 TJ in January and noticed the floors wet and figured they
must have just cleaned the carpets before we picked it up... almost June now
and still finding it damp in spots and the salt build up around the seat
belt mech.from the winter.... I notice one spot is dry after rain and
driving it becomes wet... not sure where the water is coming from but the
dealer more less told me that leaks are not warranty... is this true??



"Russ B" <gofast@REMOVE_THIStexoma.net> wrote in message
news:c89bip02q0t@enews3.newsguy.com...
> Jean-paul, The Wrangler is prone to leaks. I've had two: a 1999 that
Daimler
> reaplced under my state's lemon law (for water leaks and other problems)
and
> a 2002 that replaced it. Both took repeated trips to the dealer to get the
> leaks fixed.
>
> The 1999 was a hardtop, and the only way the dealer could get it to stop
> leaking was to glue the top on with silicone (this was after they had
> damaged teh tub while tryig to fix it). The 2002 is pretty much leak free
> except when I wash it with a spray hose. The softop/half doors actually
> seals out water a little better because of the overlaps that cause water
to
> run past places where the others are exopsed.
>
> Possible sources: air intake for a/c-heating system, Windshield seal,
body
> seams between tub and wheelwell in rear fender, windshield frame to body
> seal. You may have more than one leak!!! Most likely is the windshield if
it
> drips on your foot. If it only does it when you drive, and the water is
> muddy like road film, then suspect the body seams. If it pools on
passenger
> side when parked, then a/c intake.
>
> Good luck!
>
> "Jean-Paul Lanaux" <jpl@jplanaux.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1b10da60a7966d6c98968a@netnews.worldnet.a tt.net...
> > I am new to Jeep and I have never owned a Jeep before. My wrangler (soft
> > top with half doors) has a small pool of water developing in the floor
> > section of drivers side only. During one heavy rain storm there was a
> > constant driping on my foot as I drove coming from above the accelerator
> > pedal. The passenger side stays dry. I need to bring it back to the
> > dealer to get it fixed.
> >
> > My real question. What should I expect from them? Is it possible to have
> > a jeep that does not leak? Or should I just rip out the carpeting now?
> >
> > -jpl-
>
>

Re: 2004 Wrangler Leaks when rains
 

I purchased an '03 TJ in January and noticed the floors wet and figured they
must have just cleaned the carpets before we picked it up... almost June now
and still finding it damp in spots and the salt build up around the seat
belt mech.from the winter.... I notice one spot is dry after rain and
driving it becomes wet... not sure where the water is coming from but the
dealer more less told me that leaks are not warranty... is this true??



"Russ B" <gofast@REMOVE_THIStexoma.net> wrote in message
news:c89bip02q0t@enews3.newsguy.com...
> Jean-paul, The Wrangler is prone to leaks. I've had two: a 1999 that
Daimler
> reaplced under my state's lemon law (for water leaks and other problems)
and
> a 2002 that replaced it. Both took repeated trips to the dealer to get the
> leaks fixed.
>
> The 1999 was a hardtop, and the only way the dealer could get it to stop
> leaking was to glue the top on with silicone (this was after they had
> damaged teh tub while tryig to fix it). The 2002 is pretty much leak free
> except when I wash it with a spray hose. The softop/half doors actually
> seals out water a little better because of the overlaps that cause water
to
> run past places where the others are exopsed.
>
> Possible sources: air intake for a/c-heating system, Windshield seal,
body
> seams between tub and wheelwell in rear fender, windshield frame to body
> seal. You may have more than one leak!!! Most likely is the windshield if
it
> drips on your foot. If it only does it when you drive, and the water is
> muddy like road film, then suspect the body seams. If it pools on
passenger
> side when parked, then a/c intake.
>
> Good luck!
>
> "Jean-Paul Lanaux" <jpl@jplanaux.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1b10da60a7966d6c98968a@netnews.worldnet.a tt.net...
> > I am new to Jeep and I have never owned a Jeep before. My wrangler (soft
> > top with half doors) has a small pool of water developing in the floor
> > section of drivers side only. During one heavy rain storm there was a
> > constant driping on my foot as I drove coming from above the accelerator
> > pedal. The passenger side stays dry. I need to bring it back to the
> > dealer to get it fixed.
> >
> > My real question. What should I expect from them? Is it possible to have
> > a jeep that does not leak? Or should I just rip out the carpeting now?
> >
> > -jpl-
>
>

Re: 2004 Wrangler Leaks when rains
 

I purchased an '03 TJ in January and noticed the floors wet and figured they
must have just cleaned the carpets before we picked it up... almost June now
and still finding it damp in spots and the salt build up around the seat
belt mech.from the winter.... I notice one spot is dry after rain and
driving it becomes wet... not sure where the water is coming from but the
dealer more less told me that leaks are not warranty... is this true??



"Russ B" <gofast@REMOVE_THIStexoma.net> wrote in message
news:c89bip02q0t@enews3.newsguy.com...
> Jean-paul, The Wrangler is prone to leaks. I've had two: a 1999 that
Daimler
> reaplced under my state's lemon law (for water leaks and other problems)
and
> a 2002 that replaced it. Both took repeated trips to the dealer to get the
> leaks fixed.
>
> The 1999 was a hardtop, and the only way the dealer could get it to stop
> leaking was to glue the top on with silicone (this was after they had
> damaged teh tub while tryig to fix it). The 2002 is pretty much leak free
> except when I wash it with a spray hose. The softop/half doors actually
> seals out water a little better because of the overlaps that cause water
to
> run past places where the others are exopsed.
>
> Possible sources: air intake for a/c-heating system, Windshield seal,
body
> seams between tub and wheelwell in rear fender, windshield frame to body
> seal. You may have more than one leak!!! Most likely is the windshield if
it
> drips on your foot. If it only does it when you drive, and the water is
> muddy like road film, then suspect the body seams. If it pools on
passenger
> side when parked, then a/c intake.
>
> Good luck!
>
> "Jean-Paul Lanaux" <jpl@jplanaux.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1b10da60a7966d6c98968a@netnews.worldnet.a tt.net...
> > I am new to Jeep and I have never owned a Jeep before. My wrangler (soft
> > top with half doors) has a small pool of water developing in the floor
> > section of drivers side only. During one heavy rain storm there was a
> > constant driping on my foot as I drove coming from above the accelerator
> > pedal. The passenger side stays dry. I need to bring it back to the
> > dealer to get it fixed.
> >
> > My real question. What should I expect from them? Is it possible to have
> > a jeep that does not leak? Or should I just rip out the carpeting now?
> >
> > -jpl-
>
>

Re: 2004 Wrangler Leaks when rains
 

I purchased an '03 TJ in January and noticed the floors wet and figured they
must have just cleaned the carpets before we picked it up... almost June now
and still finding it damp in spots and the salt build up around the seat
belt mech.from the winter.... I notice one spot is dry after rain and
driving it becomes wet... not sure where the water is coming from but the
dealer more less told me that leaks are not warranty... is this true??



"Russ B" <gofast@REMOVE_THIStexoma.net> wrote in message
news:c89bip02q0t@enews3.newsguy.com...
> Jean-paul, The Wrangler is prone to leaks. I've had two: a 1999 that
Daimler
> reaplced under my state's lemon law (for water leaks and other problems)
and
> a 2002 that replaced it. Both took repeated trips to the dealer to get the
> leaks fixed.
>
> The 1999 was a hardtop, and the only way the dealer could get it to stop
> leaking was to glue the top on with silicone (this was after they had
> damaged teh tub while tryig to fix it). The 2002 is pretty much leak free
> except when I wash it with a spray hose. The softop/half doors actually
> seals out water a little better because of the overlaps that cause water
to
> run past places where the others are exopsed.
>
> Possible sources: air intake for a/c-heating system, Windshield seal,
body
> seams between tub and wheelwell in rear fender, windshield frame to body
> seal. You may have more than one leak!!! Most likely is the windshield if
it
> drips on your foot. If it only does it when you drive, and the water is
> muddy like road film, then suspect the body seams. If it pools on
passenger
> side when parked, then a/c intake.
>
> Good luck!
>
> "Jean-Paul Lanaux" <jpl@jplanaux.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1b10da60a7966d6c98968a@netnews.worldnet.a tt.net...
> > I am new to Jeep and I have never owned a Jeep before. My wrangler (soft
> > top with half doors) has a small pool of water developing in the floor
> > section of drivers side only. During one heavy rain storm there was a
> > constant driping on my foot as I drove coming from above the accelerator
> > pedal. The passenger side stays dry. I need to bring it back to the
> > dealer to get it fixed.
> >
> > My real question. What should I expect from them? Is it possible to have
> > a jeep that does not leak? Or should I just rip out the carpeting now?
> >
> > -jpl-
>
>

Re: 2004 Wrangler Leaks when rains
 

No, it's BS. Go to another dealer and let the previous one know why you
will never be back.

Jeff wrote:

> I purchased an '03 TJ in January and noticed the floors wet and figured they
> must have just cleaned the carpets before we picked it up... almost June now
> and still finding it damp in spots and the salt build up around the seat
> belt mech.from the winter.... I notice one spot is dry after rain and
> driving it becomes wet... not sure where the water is coming from but the
> dealer more less told me that leaks are not warranty... is this true??

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________

Re: 2004 Wrangler Leaks when rains
 

No, it's BS. Go to another dealer and let the previous one know why you
will never be back.

Jeff wrote:

> I purchased an '03 TJ in January and noticed the floors wet and figured they
> must have just cleaned the carpets before we picked it up... almost June now
> and still finding it damp in spots and the salt build up around the seat
> belt mech.from the winter.... I notice one spot is dry after rain and
> driving it becomes wet... not sure where the water is coming from but the
> dealer more less told me that leaks are not warranty... is this true??

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________

Re: 2004 Wrangler Leaks when rains
 

No, it's BS. Go to another dealer and let the previous one know why you
will never be back.

Jeff wrote:

> I purchased an '03 TJ in January and noticed the floors wet and figured they
> must have just cleaned the carpets before we picked it up... almost June now
> and still finding it damp in spots and the salt build up around the seat
> belt mech.from the winter.... I notice one spot is dry after rain and
> driving it becomes wet... not sure where the water is coming from but the
> dealer more less told me that leaks are not warranty... is this true??

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________

Re: 2004 Wrangler Leaks when rains
 

No, it's BS. Go to another dealer and let the previous one know why you
will never be back.

Jeff wrote:

> I purchased an '03 TJ in January and noticed the floors wet and figured they
> must have just cleaned the carpets before we picked it up... almost June now
> and still finding it damp in spots and the salt build up around the seat
> belt mech.from the winter.... I notice one spot is dry after rain and
> driving it becomes wet... not sure where the water is coming from but the
> dealer more less told me that leaks are not warranty... is this true??

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________

Re: 2004 Wrangler Leaks when rains
 

build-up around the seat belt/rollbar is probably where the water leaks
through the body seam in the rear wheelwell. It will obviously only do this
when you drive it...The water can't get to the seam when it sits. Mine
(2002) did that. DO NOT LET THE DEALER SEAL THE BOTTOM OF THE ROLL BAR!!!!!
If they do that, the water is going to be trapped between the body panels,
and it will rust FAST. The leak has to be sealed from the outside.


"Jeff" <jrhiltz@av.eastlink.ca> wrote in message
news:1v2qc.42277$kc2.631128@nnrp1.uunet.ca...
> I purchased an '03 TJ in January and noticed the floors wet and figured
they
> must have just cleaned the carpets before we picked it up... almost June
now
> and still finding it damp in spots and the salt build up around the seat
> belt mech.from the winter.... I notice one spot is dry after rain and
> driving it becomes wet... not sure where the water is coming from but the
> dealer more less told me that leaks are not warranty... is this true??
>
>
>
> "Russ B" <gofast@REMOVE_THIStexoma.net> wrote in message
> news:c89bip02q0t@enews3.newsguy.com...
> > Jean-paul, The Wrangler is prone to leaks. I've had two: a 1999 that
> Daimler
> > reaplced under my state's lemon law (for water leaks and other problems)
> and
> > a 2002 that replaced it. Both took repeated trips to the dealer to get
the
> > leaks fixed.
> >
> > The 1999 was a hardtop, and the only way the dealer could get it to stop
> > leaking was to glue the top on with silicone (this was after they had
> > damaged teh tub while tryig to fix it). The 2002 is pretty much leak
free
> > except when I wash it with a spray hose. The softop/half doors actually
> > seals out water a little better because of the overlaps that cause water
> to
> > run past places where the others are exopsed.
> >
> > Possible sources: air intake for a/c-heating system, Windshield seal,
> body
> > seams between tub and wheelwell in rear fender, windshield frame to body
> > seal. You may have more than one leak!!! Most likely is the windshield
if
> it
> > drips on your foot. If it only does it when you drive, and the water is
> > muddy like road film, then suspect the body seams. If it pools on
> passenger
> > side when parked, then a/c intake.
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> > "Jean-Paul Lanaux" <jpl@jplanaux.com> wrote in message
> > news:MPG.1b10da60a7966d6c98968a@netnews.worldnet.a tt.net...
> > > I am new to Jeep and I have never owned a Jeep before. My wrangler
(soft
> > > top with half doors) has a small pool of water developing in the floor
> > > section of drivers side only. During one heavy rain storm there was a
> > > constant driping on my foot as I drove coming from above the
accelerator
> > > pedal. The passenger side stays dry. I need to bring it back to the
> > > dealer to get it fixed.
> > >
> > > My real question. What should I expect from them? Is it possible to
have
> > > a jeep that does not leak? Or should I just rip out the carpeting now?
> > >
> > > -jpl-
> >
> >
>
>

Re: 2004 Wrangler Leaks when rains
 

build-up around the seat belt/rollbar is probably where the water leaks
through the body seam in the rear wheelwell. It will obviously only do this
when you drive it...The water can't get to the seam when it sits. Mine
(2002) did that. DO NOT LET THE DEALER SEAL THE BOTTOM OF THE ROLL BAR!!!!!
If they do that, the water is going to be trapped between the body panels,
and it will rust FAST. The leak has to be sealed from the outside.


"Jeff" <jrhiltz@av.eastlink.ca> wrote in message
news:1v2qc.42277$kc2.631128@nnrp1.uunet.ca...
> I purchased an '03 TJ in January and noticed the floors wet and figured
they
> must have just cleaned the carpets before we picked it up... almost June
now
> and still finding it damp in spots and the salt build up around the seat
> belt mech.from the winter.... I notice one spot is dry after rain and
> driving it becomes wet... not sure where the water is coming from but the
> dealer more less told me that leaks are not warranty... is this true??
>
>
>
> "Russ B" <gofast@REMOVE_THIStexoma.net> wrote in message
> news:c89bip02q0t@enews3.newsguy.com...
> > Jean-paul, The Wrangler is prone to leaks. I've had two: a 1999 that
> Daimler
> > reaplced under my state's lemon law (for water leaks and other problems)
> and
> > a 2002 that replaced it. Both took repeated trips to the dealer to get
the
> > leaks fixed.
> >
> > The 1999 was a hardtop, and the only way the dealer could get it to stop
> > leaking was to glue the top on with silicone (this was after they had
> > damaged teh tub while tryig to fix it). The 2002 is pretty much leak
free
> > except when I wash it with a spray hose. The softop/half doors actually
> > seals out water a little better because of the overlaps that cause water
> to
> > run past places where the others are exopsed.
> >
> > Possible sources: air intake for a/c-heating system, Windshield seal,
> body
> > seams between tub and wheelwell in rear fender, windshield frame to body
> > seal. You may have more than one leak!!! Most likely is the windshield
if
> it
> > drips on your foot. If it only does it when you drive, and the water is
> > muddy like road film, then suspect the body seams. If it pools on
> passenger
> > side when parked, then a/c intake.
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> > "Jean-Paul Lanaux" <jpl@jplanaux.com> wrote in message
> > news:MPG.1b10da60a7966d6c98968a@netnews.worldnet.a tt.net...
> > > I am new to Jeep and I have never owned a Jeep before. My wrangler
(soft
> > > top with half doors) has a small pool of water developing in the floor
> > > section of drivers side only. During one heavy rain storm there was a
> > > constant driping on my foot as I drove coming from above the
accelerator
> > > pedal. The passenger side stays dry. I need to bring it back to the
> > > dealer to get it fixed.
> > >
> > > My real question. What should I expect from them? Is it possible to
have
> > > a jeep that does not leak? Or should I just rip out the carpeting now?
> > >
> > > -jpl-
> >
> >
>
>

Re: 2004 Wrangler Leaks when rains
 

build-up around the seat belt/rollbar is probably where the water leaks
through the body seam in the rear wheelwell. It will obviously only do this
when you drive it...The water can't get to the seam when it sits. Mine
(2002) did that. DO NOT LET THE DEALER SEAL THE BOTTOM OF THE ROLL BAR!!!!!
If they do that, the water is going to be trapped between the body panels,
and it will rust FAST. The leak has to be sealed from the outside.


"Jeff" <jrhiltz@av.eastlink.ca> wrote in message
news:1v2qc.42277$kc2.631128@nnrp1.uunet.ca...
> I purchased an '03 TJ in January and noticed the floors wet and figured
they
> must have just cleaned the carpets before we picked it up... almost June
now
> and still finding it damp in spots and the salt build up around the seat
> belt mech.from the winter.... I notice one spot is dry after rain and
> driving it becomes wet... not sure where the water is coming from but the
> dealer more less told me that leaks are not warranty... is this true??
>
>
>
> "Russ B" <gofast@REMOVE_THIStexoma.net> wrote in message
> news:c89bip02q0t@enews3.newsguy.com...
> > Jean-paul, The Wrangler is prone to leaks. I've had two: a 1999 that
> Daimler
> > reaplced under my state's lemon law (for water leaks and other problems)
> and
> > a 2002 that replaced it. Both took repeated trips to the dealer to get
the
> > leaks fixed.
> >
> > The 1999 was a hardtop, and the only way the dealer could get it to stop
> > leaking was to glue the top on with silicone (this was after they had
> > damaged teh tub while tryig to fix it). The 2002 is pretty much leak
free
> > except when I wash it with a spray hose. The softop/half doors actually
> > seals out water a little better because of the overlaps that cause water
> to
> > run past places where the others are exopsed.
> >
> > Possible sources: air intake for a/c-heating system, Windshield seal,
> body
> > seams between tub and wheelwell in rear fender, windshield frame to body
> > seal. You may have more than one leak!!! Most likely is the windshield
if
> it
> > drips on your foot. If it only does it when you drive, and the water is
> > muddy like road film, then suspect the body seams. If it pools on
> passenger
> > side when parked, then a/c intake.
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> > "Jean-Paul Lanaux" <jpl@jplanaux.com> wrote in message
> > news:MPG.1b10da60a7966d6c98968a@netnews.worldnet.a tt.net...
> > > I am new to Jeep and I have never owned a Jeep before. My wrangler
(soft
> > > top with half doors) has a small pool of water developing in the floor
> > > section of drivers side only. During one heavy rain storm there was a
> > > constant driping on my foot as I drove coming from above the
accelerator
> > > pedal. The passenger side stays dry. I need to bring it back to the
> > > dealer to get it fixed.
> > >
> > > My real question. What should I expect from them? Is it possible to
have
> > > a jeep that does not leak? Or should I just rip out the carpeting now?
> > >
> > > -jpl-
> >
> >
>
>

Re: 2004 Wrangler Leaks when rains
 

build-up around the seat belt/rollbar is probably where the water leaks
through the body seam in the rear wheelwell. It will obviously only do this
when you drive it...The water can't get to the seam when it sits. Mine
(2002) did that. DO NOT LET THE DEALER SEAL THE BOTTOM OF THE ROLL BAR!!!!!
If they do that, the water is going to be trapped between the body panels,
and it will rust FAST. The leak has to be sealed from the outside.


"Jeff" <jrhiltz@av.eastlink.ca> wrote in message
news:1v2qc.42277$kc2.631128@nnrp1.uunet.ca...
> I purchased an '03 TJ in January and noticed the floors wet and figured
they
> must have just cleaned the carpets before we picked it up... almost June
now
> and still finding it damp in spots and the salt build up around the seat
> belt mech.from the winter.... I notice one spot is dry after rain and
> driving it becomes wet... not sure where the water is coming from but the
> dealer more less told me that leaks are not warranty... is this true??
>
>
>
> "Russ B" <gofast@REMOVE_THIStexoma.net> wrote in message
> news:c89bip02q0t@enews3.newsguy.com...
> > Jean-paul, The Wrangler is prone to leaks. I've had two: a 1999 that
> Daimler
> > reaplced under my state's lemon law (for water leaks and other problems)
> and
> > a 2002 that replaced it. Both took repeated trips to the dealer to get
the
> > leaks fixed.
> >
> > The 1999 was a hardtop, and the only way the dealer could get it to stop
> > leaking was to glue the top on with silicone (this was after they had
> > damaged teh tub while tryig to fix it). The 2002 is pretty much leak
free
> > except when I wash it with a spray hose. The softop/half doors actually
> > seals out water a little better because of the overlaps that cause water
> to
> > run past places where the others are exopsed.
> >
> > Possible sources: air intake for a/c-heating system, Windshield seal,
> body
> > seams between tub and wheelwell in rear fender, windshield frame to body
> > seal. You may have more than one leak!!! Most likely is the windshield
if
> it
> > drips on your foot. If it only does it when you drive, and the water is
> > muddy like road film, then suspect the body seams. If it pools on
> passenger
> > side when parked, then a/c intake.
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> > "Jean-Paul Lanaux" <jpl@jplanaux.com> wrote in message
> > news:MPG.1b10da60a7966d6c98968a@netnews.worldnet.a tt.net...
> > > I am new to Jeep and I have never owned a Jeep before. My wrangler
(soft
> > > top with half doors) has a small pool of water developing in the floor
> > > section of drivers side only. During one heavy rain storm there was a
> > > constant driping on my foot as I drove coming from above the
accelerator
> > > pedal. The passenger side stays dry. I need to bring it back to the
> > > dealer to get it fixed.
> > >
> > > My real question. What should I expect from them? Is it possible to
have
> > > a jeep that does not leak? Or should I just rip out the carpeting now?
> > >
> > > -jpl-
> >
> >
>
>