2004 GC "5-speed" automatic
 

From what I understand, this transmission isn't really a 5-speed. According
to what I've read, it has 2 second gears!! One is used while it's upshifting
and the other is used when it's downshifting? Is this for real? And, if so,
what good is it? I'd much rather have a "real" 5-speed.

Re: 2004 GC "5-speed" automatic
 

It is a 4-speed... and yes, two different 2nd gears. One is more for
performance, the other is just normal driving.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

"j carter" <jcarter10@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:jfadnUMMQ-BuJnSiRVn-tw@comcast.com...
> From what I understand, this transmission isn't really a 5-speed.
According
> to what I've read, it has 2 second gears!! One is used while it's
upshifting
> and the other is used when it's downshifting? Is this for real? And, if
so,
> what good is it? I'd much rather have a "real" 5-speed.
>
>

Re: 2004 GC "5-speed" automatic
 

It is a 4-speed... and yes, two different 2nd gears. One is more for
performance, the other is just normal driving.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

"j carter" <jcarter10@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:jfadnUMMQ-BuJnSiRVn-tw@comcast.com...
> From what I understand, this transmission isn't really a 5-speed.
According
> to what I've read, it has 2 second gears!! One is used while it's
upshifting
> and the other is used when it's downshifting? Is this for real? And, if
so,
> what good is it? I'd much rather have a "real" 5-speed.
>
>

Re: 2004 GC "5-speed" automatic
 

It is a 4-speed... and yes, two different 2nd gears. One is more for
performance, the other is just normal driving.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

"j carter" <jcarter10@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:jfadnUMMQ-BuJnSiRVn-tw@comcast.com...
> From what I understand, this transmission isn't really a 5-speed.
According
> to what I've read, it has 2 second gears!! One is used while it's
upshifting
> and the other is used when it's downshifting? Is this for real? And, if
so,
> what good is it? I'd much rather have a "real" 5-speed.
>
>

Re: 2004 GC "5-speed" automatic
 

Roughly 12/24/03 08:16, j carter's monkeys randomly typed:

> From what I understand, this transmission isn't really a 5-speed. According
> to what I've read, it has 2 second gears!! One is used while it's upshifting
> and the other is used when it's downshifting? Is this for real? And, if so,
> what good is it? I'd much rather have a "real" 5-speed.


You do indeed get two different ratios depending
on whether you are upshifting or downshifting. Not sure
what is wrong with that, YMMV.

--
Fan of the dumbest team in America.

Re: 2004 GC "5-speed" automatic
 

Roughly 12/24/03 08:16, j carter's monkeys randomly typed:

> From what I understand, this transmission isn't really a 5-speed. According
> to what I've read, it has 2 second gears!! One is used while it's upshifting
> and the other is used when it's downshifting? Is this for real? And, if so,
> what good is it? I'd much rather have a "real" 5-speed.


You do indeed get two different ratios depending
on whether you are upshifting or downshifting. Not sure
what is wrong with that, YMMV.

--
Fan of the dumbest team in America.

Re: 2004 GC "5-speed" automatic
 

Roughly 12/24/03 08:16, j carter's monkeys randomly typed:

> From what I understand, this transmission isn't really a 5-speed. According
> to what I've read, it has 2 second gears!! One is used while it's upshifting
> and the other is used when it's downshifting? Is this for real? And, if so,
> what good is it? I'd much rather have a "real" 5-speed.


You do indeed get two different ratios depending
on whether you are upshifting or downshifting. Not sure
what is wrong with that, YMMV.

--
Fan of the dumbest team in America.

Re: 2004 GC "5-speed" automatic
 

What's RIGHT with it? What good is it? (I'm not practicing to be a flamer.
I'm about ready to BUY a new GC due to all of the year-end discounts.)


"Lon Stowell" <LonDot.Stowell@ComcastPeriod.Net> wrote in message
news:%FkGb.191198$_M.868262@attbi_s54...
> Roughly 12/24/03 08:16, j carter's monkeys randomly typed:
>
> > From what I understand, this transmission isn't really a 5-speed.
According
> > to what I've read, it has 2 second gears!! One is used while it's
upshifting
> > and the other is used when it's downshifting? Is this for real? And, if
so,
> > what good is it? I'd much rather have a "real" 5-speed.
>
>
> You do indeed get two different ratios depending
> on whether you are upshifting or downshifting. Not sure
> what is wrong with that, YMMV.
>
> --
> Fan of the dumbest team in America.
>

Re: 2004 GC "5-speed" automatic
 

What's RIGHT with it? What good is it? (I'm not practicing to be a flamer.
I'm about ready to BUY a new GC due to all of the year-end discounts.)


"Lon Stowell" <LonDot.Stowell@ComcastPeriod.Net> wrote in message
news:%FkGb.191198$_M.868262@attbi_s54...
> Roughly 12/24/03 08:16, j carter's monkeys randomly typed:
>
> > From what I understand, this transmission isn't really a 5-speed.
According
> > to what I've read, it has 2 second gears!! One is used while it's
upshifting
> > and the other is used when it's downshifting? Is this for real? And, if
so,
> > what good is it? I'd much rather have a "real" 5-speed.
>
>
> You do indeed get two different ratios depending
> on whether you are upshifting or downshifting. Not sure
> what is wrong with that, YMMV.
>
> --
> Fan of the dumbest team in America.
>

Re: 2004 GC "5-speed" automatic
 

What's RIGHT with it? What good is it? (I'm not practicing to be a flamer.
I'm about ready to BUY a new GC due to all of the year-end discounts.)


"Lon Stowell" <LonDot.Stowell@ComcastPeriod.Net> wrote in message
news:%FkGb.191198$_M.868262@attbi_s54...
> Roughly 12/24/03 08:16, j carter's monkeys randomly typed:
>
> > From what I understand, this transmission isn't really a 5-speed.
According
> > to what I've read, it has 2 second gears!! One is used while it's
upshifting
> > and the other is used when it's downshifting? Is this for real? And, if
so,
> > what good is it? I'd much rather have a "real" 5-speed.
>
>
> You do indeed get two different ratios depending
> on whether you are upshifting or downshifting. Not sure
> what is wrong with that, YMMV.
>
> --
> Fan of the dumbest team in America.
>

Re: 2004 GC "5-speed" automatic
 

Roughly 12/25/03 08:58, j carter's monkeys randomly typed:

> What's RIGHT with it? What good is it? (I'm not practicing to be a flamer.
> I'm about ready to BUY a new GC due to all of the year-end discounts.)
>
You get 5 different effective ratios. The difference between
that and a "true" 5 speed gearbox is of interest to gearheads.


--
Fan of the dumbest team in America.

Re: 2004 GC "5-speed" automatic
 

Roughly 12/25/03 08:58, j carter's monkeys randomly typed:

> What's RIGHT with it? What good is it? (I'm not practicing to be a flamer.
> I'm about ready to BUY a new GC due to all of the year-end discounts.)
>
You get 5 different effective ratios. The difference between
that and a "true" 5 speed gearbox is of interest to gearheads.


--
Fan of the dumbest team in America.

Re: 2004 GC "5-speed" automatic
 

Roughly 12/25/03 08:58, j carter's monkeys randomly typed:

> What's RIGHT with it? What good is it? (I'm not practicing to be a flamer.
> I'm about ready to BUY a new GC due to all of the year-end discounts.)
>
You get 5 different effective ratios. The difference between
that and a "true" 5 speed gearbox is of interest to gearheads.


--
Fan of the dumbest team in America.

Re: 2004 GC "5-speed" automatic
 

"j carter" <jcarter10@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:IeCdnXaXK42FinaiRVn-sQ@comcast.com...
> What's RIGHT with it? What good is it? (I'm not practicing to be a flamer.
> I'm about ready to BUY a new GC due to all of the year-end discounts.)
>
It's use is it's a passing gear, to fill the void when you're going too fast
to downshift to 2nd
but a downshift to 3rd doesn't give you the necessary acceleration. so it's
ratio that fits
in between..

I'm waiting for that last end of year rebate push too.

but V8 jeeps are in short supply around here, dealers that stock 25-35 Grand
Cherokees
only have 1-2 V8's.

If you are really serious about buying before the year end, email me back
and I might have
so info of interest to you.
---Gre
g---

Re: 2004 GC "5-speed" automatic
 

"j carter" <jcarter10@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:IeCdnXaXK42FinaiRVn-sQ@comcast.com...
> What's RIGHT with it? What good is it? (I'm not practicing to be a flamer.
> I'm about ready to BUY a new GC due to all of the year-end discounts.)
>
It's use is it's a passing gear, to fill the void when you're going too fast
to downshift to 2nd
but a downshift to 3rd doesn't give you the necessary acceleration. so it's
ratio that fits
in between..

I'm waiting for that last end of year rebate push too.

but V8 jeeps are in short supply around here, dealers that stock 25-35 Grand
Cherokees
only have 1-2 V8's.

If you are really serious about buying before the year end, email me back
and I might have
so info of interest to you.
---Gre
g---

Re: 2004 GC "5-speed" automatic
 

"j carter" <jcarter10@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:IeCdnXaXK42FinaiRVn-sQ@comcast.com...
> What's RIGHT with it? What good is it? (I'm not practicing to be a flamer.
> I'm about ready to BUY a new GC due to all of the year-end discounts.)
>
It's use is it's a passing gear, to fill the void when you're going too fast
to downshift to 2nd
but a downshift to 3rd doesn't give you the necessary acceleration. so it's
ratio that fits
in between..

I'm waiting for that last end of year rebate push too.

but V8 jeeps are in short supply around here, dealers that stock 25-35 Grand
Cherokees
only have 1-2 V8's.

If you are really serious about buying before the year end, email me back
and I might have
so info of interest to you.
---Gre
g---

Re: 2004 GC "5-speed" automatic
 

I'm definetly interested so I e-mailed you. (Just a reminder to keep my name
in mind and not to throw me out with the rest of the unfamiliar- named
junk!)


"Greg" <vze4973g@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:RtGGb.1817$tY5.812@nwrdny01.gnilink.net...
>
> "j carter" <jcarter10@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:IeCdnXaXK42FinaiRVn-sQ@comcast.com...
> > What's RIGHT with it? What good is it? (I'm not practicing to be a
flamer.
> > I'm about ready to BUY a new GC due to all of the year-end discounts.)
> >
> It's use is it's a passing gear, to fill the void when you're going too
fast
> to downshift to 2nd
> but a downshift to 3rd doesn't give you the necessary acceleration. so
it's
> ratio that fits
> in between..
>
> I'm waiting for that last end of year rebate push too.
>
> but V8 jeeps are in short supply around here, dealers that stock 25-35
Grand
> Cherokees
> only have 1-2 V8's.
>
> If you are really serious about buying before the year end, email me back
> and I might have
> so info of interest to you.
> ---G
re
> g---
>
>

Re: 2004 GC "5-speed" automatic
 

I'm definetly interested so I e-mailed you. (Just a reminder to keep my name
in mind and not to throw me out with the rest of the unfamiliar- named
junk!)


"Greg" <vze4973g@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:RtGGb.1817$tY5.812@nwrdny01.gnilink.net...
>
> "j carter" <jcarter10@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:IeCdnXaXK42FinaiRVn-sQ@comcast.com...
> > What's RIGHT with it? What good is it? (I'm not practicing to be a
flamer.
> > I'm about ready to BUY a new GC due to all of the year-end discounts.)
> >
> It's use is it's a passing gear, to fill the void when you're going too
fast
> to downshift to 2nd
> but a downshift to 3rd doesn't give you the necessary acceleration. so
it's
> ratio that fits
> in between..
>
> I'm waiting for that last end of year rebate push too.
>
> but V8 jeeps are in short supply around here, dealers that stock 25-35
Grand
> Cherokees
> only have 1-2 V8's.
>
> If you are really serious about buying before the year end, email me back
> and I might have
> so info of interest to you.
> ---G
re
> g---
>
>

Re: 2004 GC "5-speed" automatic
 

I'm definetly interested so I e-mailed you. (Just a reminder to keep my name
in mind and not to throw me out with the rest of the unfamiliar- named
junk!)


"Greg" <vze4973g@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:RtGGb.1817$tY5.812@nwrdny01.gnilink.net...
>
> "j carter" <jcarter10@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:IeCdnXaXK42FinaiRVn-sQ@comcast.com...
> > What's RIGHT with it? What good is it? (I'm not practicing to be a
flamer.
> > I'm about ready to BUY a new GC due to all of the year-end discounts.)
> >
> It's use is it's a passing gear, to fill the void when you're going too
fast
> to downshift to 2nd
> but a downshift to 3rd doesn't give you the necessary acceleration. so
it's
> ratio that fits
> in between..
>
> I'm waiting for that last end of year rebate push too.
>
> but V8 jeeps are in short supply around here, dealers that stock 25-35
Grand
> Cherokees
> only have 1-2 V8's.
>
> If you are really serious about buying before the year end, email me back
> and I might have
> so info of interest to you.
> ---G
re
> g---
>
>

Re: 2004 GC "5-speed" automatic
 

FYI

The transmission is a true 5 speed, AND also has a alternate 2nd gear.

Gear ratio:1
1st 3.00
2nd (upshift) 1.67
2nd (kickdown) 1.50
3rd 1.00
4th 0.75
5th 0.67
Reverse 3.00

5th gear is a second overdrive, for gas saving and quieter highway driving.

The alternate second gear help to smooth high-speed downshifts an maintain a
higher road speed. Makes towing easier.

Re: 2004 GC "5-speed" automatic
 

FYI

The transmission is a true 5 speed, AND also has a alternate 2nd gear.

Gear ratio:1
1st 3.00
2nd (upshift) 1.67
2nd (kickdown) 1.50
3rd 1.00
4th 0.75
5th 0.67
Reverse 3.00

5th gear is a second overdrive, for gas saving and quieter highway driving.

The alternate second gear help to smooth high-speed downshifts an maintain a
higher road speed. Makes towing easier.

Re: 2004 GC "5-speed" automatic
 

FYI

The transmission is a true 5 speed, AND also has a alternate 2nd gear.

Gear ratio:1
1st 3.00
2nd (upshift) 1.67
2nd (kickdown) 1.50
3rd 1.00
4th 0.75
5th 0.67
Reverse 3.00

5th gear is a second overdrive, for gas saving and quieter highway driving.

The alternate second gear help to smooth high-speed downshifts an maintain a
higher road speed. Makes towing easier.

Re: 2004 GC "5-speed" automatic
 

Two overdrive ratios, weird. Typical ratios:
http://www.dalesplace.com/htm/inform...calculator.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Mark12211 wrote:
>
> FYI
>
> The transmission is a true 5 speed, AND also has a alternate 2nd gear.
>
> Gear ratio:1
> 1st 3.00
> 2nd (upshift) 1.67
> 2nd (kickdown) 1.50
> 3rd 1.00
> 4th 0.75
> 5th 0.67
> Reverse 3.00
>
> 5th gear is a second overdrive, for gas saving and quieter highway driving.
>
> The alternate second gear help to smooth high-speed downshifts an maintain a
> higher road speed. Makes towing easier.

Re: 2004 GC "5-speed" automatic
 

Two overdrive ratios, weird. Typical ratios:
http://www.dalesplace.com/htm/inform...calculator.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Mark12211 wrote:
>
> FYI
>
> The transmission is a true 5 speed, AND also has a alternate 2nd gear.
>
> Gear ratio:1
> 1st 3.00
> 2nd (upshift) 1.67
> 2nd (kickdown) 1.50
> 3rd 1.00
> 4th 0.75
> 5th 0.67
> Reverse 3.00
>
> 5th gear is a second overdrive, for gas saving and quieter highway driving.
>
> The alternate second gear help to smooth high-speed downshifts an maintain a
> higher road speed. Makes towing easier.

Re: 2004 GC "5-speed" automatic
 

Two overdrive ratios, weird. Typical ratios:
http://www.dalesplace.com/htm/inform...calculator.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Mark12211 wrote:
>
> FYI
>
> The transmission is a true 5 speed, AND also has a alternate 2nd gear.
>
> Gear ratio:1
> 1st 3.00
> 2nd (upshift) 1.67
> 2nd (kickdown) 1.50
> 3rd 1.00
> 4th 0.75
> 5th 0.67
> Reverse 3.00
>
> 5th gear is a second overdrive, for gas saving and quieter highway driving.
>
> The alternate second gear help to smooth high-speed downshifts an maintain a
> higher road speed. Makes towing easier.

Re: 2004 GC "5-speed" automatic
 

Roughly 1/1/04 19:34, L.W.(ßill) ------ III's monkeys randomly typed:

> Two overdrive ratios, weird.

Common on Porsches as well. What is odd is that with two
overdrive ratios you'd expect a deeper set of axle ratios
than 3.73 even, unless the top two are strictly to keep the
EPA mileage nazis off their rear end.

>
> Mark12211 wrote:
>>
>> FYI
>>
>> The transmission is a true 5 speed, AND also has a alternate 2nd gear.
>>
>> Gear ratio:1
>> 1st 3.00
>> 2nd (upshift) 1.67
>> 2nd (kickdown) 1.50
>> 3rd 1.00
>> 4th 0.75
>> 5th 0.67
>> Reverse 3.00
>>
>> 5th gear is a second overdrive, for gas saving and quieter highway driving.
>>
>> The alternate second gear help to smooth high-speed downshifts an maintain a
>> higher road speed. Makes towing easier.


--
Fan of the dumbest team in America.

Re: 2004 GC "5-speed" automatic
 

Roughly 1/1/04 19:34, L.W.(ßill) ------ III's monkeys randomly typed:

> Two overdrive ratios, weird.

Common on Porsches as well. What is odd is that with two
overdrive ratios you'd expect a deeper set of axle ratios
than 3.73 even, unless the top two are strictly to keep the
EPA mileage nazis off their rear end.

>
> Mark12211 wrote:
>>
>> FYI
>>
>> The transmission is a true 5 speed, AND also has a alternate 2nd gear.
>>
>> Gear ratio:1
>> 1st 3.00
>> 2nd (upshift) 1.67
>> 2nd (kickdown) 1.50
>> 3rd 1.00
>> 4th 0.75
>> 5th 0.67
>> Reverse 3.00
>>
>> 5th gear is a second overdrive, for gas saving and quieter highway driving.
>>
>> The alternate second gear help to smooth high-speed downshifts an maintain a
>> higher road speed. Makes towing easier.


--
Fan of the dumbest team in America.

Re: 2004 GC "5-speed" automatic
 

Roughly 1/1/04 19:34, L.W.(ßill) ------ III's monkeys randomly typed:

> Two overdrive ratios, weird.

Common on Porsches as well. What is odd is that with two
overdrive ratios you'd expect a deeper set of axle ratios
than 3.73 even, unless the top two are strictly to keep the
EPA mileage nazis off their rear end.

>
> Mark12211 wrote:
>>
>> FYI
>>
>> The transmission is a true 5 speed, AND also has a alternate 2nd gear.
>>
>> Gear ratio:1
>> 1st 3.00
>> 2nd (upshift) 1.67
>> 2nd (kickdown) 1.50
>> 3rd 1.00
>> 4th 0.75
>> 5th 0.67
>> Reverse 3.00
>>
>> 5th gear is a second overdrive, for gas saving and quieter highway driving.
>>
>> The alternate second gear help to smooth high-speed downshifts an maintain a
>> higher road speed. Makes towing easier.


--
Fan of the dumbest team in America.