Re: 2001 JGC - coolant change = radiator fan stopping
 

nathantw did pass the time by typing:

> So, the head technician at the new place (really nice guy) said that the fan
> assembly (with radiator) would cost about $419 plus a few other things that
> would cost blah, blah, and he dropped the labor price by half. All said and
> done it would cost me $589 not including tax. Do you think that's a good
> price? Is the fan really attached to the radiator or is there one I can just
> bolt in? Is it something I can just take out of the replace myself or is it
> something that a tech definitely needs to do?


As for doing the fan and radiator at the same time, that's -------- unless
the radiator is also shot. Try this place for price info (OEM)
http://www.chryslerpartsdirect.com/
There are aftermarket electrics but you have to do the wiring.

What is this place, sounds like a Midas.

> One last question, there's a little fan that attaches to the motor that's
> called a viscous fan. I noticed on my old price list that it's part of a tow
> package. Does that mean I don't need it since I don't have the tow package?
> It wouldn't hurt anything if I put it on anyway, right?

That's the normal motor driven fan vs the electric one. You would need it
and a new radiator shroud. Possibly different bolts for the water pump
pulley (where the mechanical fan bolts) See my page on the harmonic balancer
it shows the fan. http://revbeergoggles.com/hb/

The up-side is it pulls more air, the down-side is it saps motor power
to pull that air. Unless your drag racing it's not noticeable.

--
DougW

Re: 2001 JGC - coolant change = radiator fan stopping
 

nathantw did pass the time by typing:

> So, the head technician at the new place (really nice guy) said that the fan
> assembly (with radiator) would cost about $419 plus a few other things that
> would cost blah, blah, and he dropped the labor price by half. All said and
> done it would cost me $589 not including tax. Do you think that's a good
> price? Is the fan really attached to the radiator or is there one I can just
> bolt in? Is it something I can just take out of the replace myself or is it
> something that a tech definitely needs to do?


As for doing the fan and radiator at the same time, that's -------- unless
the radiator is also shot. Try this place for price info (OEM)
http://www.chryslerpartsdirect.com/
There are aftermarket electrics but you have to do the wiring.

What is this place, sounds like a Midas.

> One last question, there's a little fan that attaches to the motor that's
> called a viscous fan. I noticed on my old price list that it's part of a tow
> package. Does that mean I don't need it since I don't have the tow package?
> It wouldn't hurt anything if I put it on anyway, right?

That's the normal motor driven fan vs the electric one. You would need it
and a new radiator shroud. Possibly different bolts for the water pump
pulley (where the mechanical fan bolts) See my page on the harmonic balancer
it shows the fan. http://revbeergoggles.com/hb/

The up-side is it pulls more air, the down-side is it saps motor power
to pull that air. Unless your drag racing it's not noticeable.

--
DougW

Re: 2001 JGC - coolant change = radiator fan stopping
 

nathantw did pass the time by typing:

> So, the head technician at the new place (really nice guy) said that the fan
> assembly (with radiator) would cost about $419 plus a few other things that
> would cost blah, blah, and he dropped the labor price by half. All said and
> done it would cost me $589 not including tax. Do you think that's a good
> price? Is the fan really attached to the radiator or is there one I can just
> bolt in? Is it something I can just take out of the replace myself or is it
> something that a tech definitely needs to do?


As for doing the fan and radiator at the same time, that's -------- unless
the radiator is also shot. Try this place for price info (OEM)
http://www.chryslerpartsdirect.com/
There are aftermarket electrics but you have to do the wiring.

What is this place, sounds like a Midas.

> One last question, there's a little fan that attaches to the motor that's
> called a viscous fan. I noticed on my old price list that it's part of a tow
> package. Does that mean I don't need it since I don't have the tow package?
> It wouldn't hurt anything if I put it on anyway, right?

That's the normal motor driven fan vs the electric one. You would need it
and a new radiator shroud. Possibly different bolts for the water pump
pulley (where the mechanical fan bolts) See my page on the harmonic balancer
it shows the fan. http://revbeergoggles.com/hb/

The up-side is it pulls more air, the down-side is it saps motor power
to pull that air. Unless your drag racing it's not noticeable.

--
DougW

Re: 2001 JGC - coolant change = radiator fan stopping
 

I'm with you, I bet it's just the replay, but it's up to him to say
no. My sisterinlaw let the stealership change out the whole thing twice
under a hundred deductible that included the towing, though. It's the
car wash that kills hers.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

DougW wrote:
>
> As for doing the fan and radiator at the same time, that's -------- unless
> the radiator is also shot. Try this place for price info (OEM)
> http://www.chryslerpartsdirect.com/
> There are aftermarket electrics but you have to do the wiring.
>
> What is this place, sounds like a Midas.
>
> That's the normal motor driven fan vs the electric one. You would need it
> and a new radiator shroud. Possibly different bolts for the water pump
> pulley (where the mechanical fan bolts) See my page on the harmonic balancer
> it shows the fan. http://revbeergoggles.com/hb/
>
> The up-side is it pulls more air, the down-side is it saps motor power
> to pull that air. Unless your drag racing it's not noticeable.
>
> --
> DougW

Re: 2001 JGC - coolant change = radiator fan stopping
 

I'm with you, I bet it's just the replay, but it's up to him to say
no. My sisterinlaw let the stealership change out the whole thing twice
under a hundred deductible that included the towing, though. It's the
car wash that kills hers.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

DougW wrote:
>
> As for doing the fan and radiator at the same time, that's -------- unless
> the radiator is also shot. Try this place for price info (OEM)
> http://www.chryslerpartsdirect.com/
> There are aftermarket electrics but you have to do the wiring.
>
> What is this place, sounds like a Midas.
>
> That's the normal motor driven fan vs the electric one. You would need it
> and a new radiator shroud. Possibly different bolts for the water pump
> pulley (where the mechanical fan bolts) See my page on the harmonic balancer
> it shows the fan. http://revbeergoggles.com/hb/
>
> The up-side is it pulls more air, the down-side is it saps motor power
> to pull that air. Unless your drag racing it's not noticeable.
>
> --
> DougW

Re: 2001 JGC - coolant change = radiator fan stopping
 

I'm with you, I bet it's just the replay, but it's up to him to say
no. My sisterinlaw let the stealership change out the whole thing twice
under a hundred deductible that included the towing, though. It's the
car wash that kills hers.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

DougW wrote:
>
> As for doing the fan and radiator at the same time, that's -------- unless
> the radiator is also shot. Try this place for price info (OEM)
> http://www.chryslerpartsdirect.com/
> There are aftermarket electrics but you have to do the wiring.
>
> What is this place, sounds like a Midas.
>
> That's the normal motor driven fan vs the electric one. You would need it
> and a new radiator shroud. Possibly different bolts for the water pump
> pulley (where the mechanical fan bolts) See my page on the harmonic balancer
> it shows the fan. http://revbeergoggles.com/hb/
>
> The up-side is it pulls more air, the down-side is it saps motor power
> to pull that air. Unless your drag racing it's not noticeable.
>
> --
> DougW

Re: 2001 JGC - coolant change = radiator fan stopping
 

I'm with you, I bet it's just the replay, but it's up to him to say
no. My sisterinlaw let the stealership change out the whole thing twice
under a hundred deductible that included the towing, though. It's the
car wash that kills hers.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

DougW wrote:
>
> As for doing the fan and radiator at the same time, that's -------- unless
> the radiator is also shot. Try this place for price info (OEM)
> http://www.chryslerpartsdirect.com/
> There are aftermarket electrics but you have to do the wiring.
>
> What is this place, sounds like a Midas.
>
> That's the normal motor driven fan vs the electric one. You would need it
> and a new radiator shroud. Possibly different bolts for the water pump
> pulley (where the mechanical fan bolts) See my page on the harmonic balancer
> it shows the fan. http://revbeergoggles.com/hb/
>
> The up-side is it pulls more air, the down-side is it saps motor power
> to pull that air. Unless your drag racing it's not noticeable.
>
> --
> DougW

Re: 2001 JGC - coolant change = radiator fan stopping
 

> As for doing the fan and radiator at the same time, that's -------- unless
> the radiator is also shot. Try this place for price info (OEM)
> http://www.chryslerpartsdirect.com/
> There are aftermarket electrics but you have to do the wiring.

Unfortunately that link doesn't have the fan. I think it's easy enough to
get at the Mopar dealer though. I have a pricelist that's pretty close to
what they are on the market today. It even shows how long it takes to
install the item.
I'm not sure if he was going to change the radiator along with the fan.
Maybe I'm wrong. Either way the price was a bit high for the fan unit
though.

> What is this place, sounds like a Midas.

No, it was Quality Tune-up.

> That's the normal motor driven fan vs the electric one. You would need it
> and a new radiator shroud. Possibly different bolts for the water pump
> pulley (where the mechanical fan bolts) See my page on the harmonic
> balancer
> it shows the fan. http://revbeergoggles.com/hb/

I was looking at one of those websites that show what was new with the 1999
Jeeps GC and it said that it had a hybrid fan system, so I think it's
suppose to have both the electric and motor driven fans working in unison.
Hmmm, after further investigation I guess I won't need it. Here's what the
hybrid unit is used for "Fan noise eliminated by installing a hybrid cooling
fan system (on models with V8 or trailer tow package)."
http://www.wjjeeps.com/newoptions.htm

I looked at the radiator cooling fan and the radiator isn't attached. It
appears that the cooling fan is bolted onto the shroud. So that should be a
relatively easy repair and I'll save myself quite a bit of money.

Re: 2001 JGC - coolant change = radiator fan stopping
 

> As for doing the fan and radiator at the same time, that's -------- unless
> the radiator is also shot. Try this place for price info (OEM)
> http://www.chryslerpartsdirect.com/
> There are aftermarket electrics but you have to do the wiring.

Unfortunately that link doesn't have the fan. I think it's easy enough to
get at the Mopar dealer though. I have a pricelist that's pretty close to
what they are on the market today. It even shows how long it takes to
install the item.
I'm not sure if he was going to change the radiator along with the fan.
Maybe I'm wrong. Either way the price was a bit high for the fan unit
though.

> What is this place, sounds like a Midas.

No, it was Quality Tune-up.

> That's the normal motor driven fan vs the electric one. You would need it
> and a new radiator shroud. Possibly different bolts for the water pump
> pulley (where the mechanical fan bolts) See my page on the harmonic
> balancer
> it shows the fan. http://revbeergoggles.com/hb/

I was looking at one of those websites that show what was new with the 1999
Jeeps GC and it said that it had a hybrid fan system, so I think it's
suppose to have both the electric and motor driven fans working in unison.
Hmmm, after further investigation I guess I won't need it. Here's what the
hybrid unit is used for "Fan noise eliminated by installing a hybrid cooling
fan system (on models with V8 or trailer tow package)."
http://www.wjjeeps.com/newoptions.htm

I looked at the radiator cooling fan and the radiator isn't attached. It
appears that the cooling fan is bolted onto the shroud. So that should be a
relatively easy repair and I'll save myself quite a bit of money.

Re: 2001 JGC - coolant change = radiator fan stopping
 

> As for doing the fan and radiator at the same time, that's -------- unless
> the radiator is also shot. Try this place for price info (OEM)
> http://www.chryslerpartsdirect.com/
> There are aftermarket electrics but you have to do the wiring.

Unfortunately that link doesn't have the fan. I think it's easy enough to
get at the Mopar dealer though. I have a pricelist that's pretty close to
what they are on the market today. It even shows how long it takes to
install the item.
I'm not sure if he was going to change the radiator along with the fan.
Maybe I'm wrong. Either way the price was a bit high for the fan unit
though.

> What is this place, sounds like a Midas.

No, it was Quality Tune-up.

> That's the normal motor driven fan vs the electric one. You would need it
> and a new radiator shroud. Possibly different bolts for the water pump
> pulley (where the mechanical fan bolts) See my page on the harmonic
> balancer
> it shows the fan. http://revbeergoggles.com/hb/

I was looking at one of those websites that show what was new with the 1999
Jeeps GC and it said that it had a hybrid fan system, so I think it's
suppose to have both the electric and motor driven fans working in unison.
Hmmm, after further investigation I guess I won't need it. Here's what the
hybrid unit is used for "Fan noise eliminated by installing a hybrid cooling
fan system (on models with V8 or trailer tow package)."
http://www.wjjeeps.com/newoptions.htm

I looked at the radiator cooling fan and the radiator isn't attached. It
appears that the cooling fan is bolted onto the shroud. So that should be a
relatively easy repair and I'll save myself quite a bit of money.