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ppdavid 08-21-2004 03:45 PM

2001 Grand has "thump" in rear end
 
My 2001 Grand Cherokee developed a "thumping" sound in the rear area at low
speed on bumpy roads. Started around 40,000 mi...now at 60,000 mi. Getting
worse. At first I thought it was bad shocks and replaced them to no avail
at 45,000 mi. I have looked at everything I can think of that might be a
problem and cannot find any reason for the noise. Spare tire is tight, no
loose items in spare tire well, suspension looks OK (no visual evidence of
anything moving around), brake pads are secure, exaust is tight, ujoints OK,
sway bar is tight, etc.
I am begining to think that something in the rear suspension is loose or
sloppy enough to allow a small amount of movement and cause a thumping sound
as it moves around at slow speed. However, I cannot see any evidence of
that. I have rebuilt Jeeps from the ground up and generally I can track
down problems but this has me baffled.
Has anyone had any problems with the rubber inserts in the rear suspension
that might allow some slop in the joints? I suspect that is where the
problem is but I don't want to tear it apart unless I have to.
Paul D



L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 08-21-2004 04:14 PM

Re: 2001 Grand has "thump" in rear end
 
Tire tread separation bubble.
Famous last words of Ford Explorer drivers.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

ppdavid wrote:
>
> My 2001 Grand Cherokee developed a "thumping" sound in the rear area at low
> speed on bumpy roads. Started around 40,000 mi...now at 60,000 mi. Getting
> worse. At first I thought it was bad shocks and replaced them to no avail
> at 45,000 mi. I have looked at everything I can think of that might be a
> problem and cannot find any reason for the noise. Spare tire is tight, no
> loose items in spare tire well, suspension looks OK (no visual evidence of
> anything moving around), brake pads are secure, exaust is tight, ujoints OK,
> sway bar is tight, etc.
> I am begining to think that something in the rear suspension is loose or
> sloppy enough to allow a small amount of movement and cause a thumping sound
> as it moves around at slow speed. However, I cannot see any evidence of
> that. I have rebuilt Jeeps from the ground up and generally I can track
> down problems but this has me baffled.
> Has anyone had any problems with the rubber inserts in the rear suspension
> that might allow some slop in the joints? I suspect that is where the
> problem is but I don't want to tear it apart unless I have to.
> Paul D


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 08-21-2004 04:14 PM

Re: 2001 Grand has "thump" in rear end
 
Tire tread separation bubble.
Famous last words of Ford Explorer drivers.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

ppdavid wrote:
>
> My 2001 Grand Cherokee developed a "thumping" sound in the rear area at low
> speed on bumpy roads. Started around 40,000 mi...now at 60,000 mi. Getting
> worse. At first I thought it was bad shocks and replaced them to no avail
> at 45,000 mi. I have looked at everything I can think of that might be a
> problem and cannot find any reason for the noise. Spare tire is tight, no
> loose items in spare tire well, suspension looks OK (no visual evidence of
> anything moving around), brake pads are secure, exaust is tight, ujoints OK,
> sway bar is tight, etc.
> I am begining to think that something in the rear suspension is loose or
> sloppy enough to allow a small amount of movement and cause a thumping sound
> as it moves around at slow speed. However, I cannot see any evidence of
> that. I have rebuilt Jeeps from the ground up and generally I can track
> down problems but this has me baffled.
> Has anyone had any problems with the rubber inserts in the rear suspension
> that might allow some slop in the joints? I suspect that is where the
> problem is but I don't want to tear it apart unless I have to.
> Paul D


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 08-21-2004 04:14 PM

Re: 2001 Grand has "thump" in rear end
 
Tire tread separation bubble.
Famous last words of Ford Explorer drivers.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

ppdavid wrote:
>
> My 2001 Grand Cherokee developed a "thumping" sound in the rear area at low
> speed on bumpy roads. Started around 40,000 mi...now at 60,000 mi. Getting
> worse. At first I thought it was bad shocks and replaced them to no avail
> at 45,000 mi. I have looked at everything I can think of that might be a
> problem and cannot find any reason for the noise. Spare tire is tight, no
> loose items in spare tire well, suspension looks OK (no visual evidence of
> anything moving around), brake pads are secure, exaust is tight, ujoints OK,
> sway bar is tight, etc.
> I am begining to think that something in the rear suspension is loose or
> sloppy enough to allow a small amount of movement and cause a thumping sound
> as it moves around at slow speed. However, I cannot see any evidence of
> that. I have rebuilt Jeeps from the ground up and generally I can track
> down problems but this has me baffled.
> Has anyone had any problems with the rubber inserts in the rear suspension
> that might allow some slop in the joints? I suspect that is where the
> problem is but I don't want to tear it apart unless I have to.
> Paul D


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 08-21-2004 04:14 PM

Re: 2001 Grand has "thump" in rear end
 
Tire tread separation bubble.
Famous last words of Ford Explorer drivers.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

ppdavid wrote:
>
> My 2001 Grand Cherokee developed a "thumping" sound in the rear area at low
> speed on bumpy roads. Started around 40,000 mi...now at 60,000 mi. Getting
> worse. At first I thought it was bad shocks and replaced them to no avail
> at 45,000 mi. I have looked at everything I can think of that might be a
> problem and cannot find any reason for the noise. Spare tire is tight, no
> loose items in spare tire well, suspension looks OK (no visual evidence of
> anything moving around), brake pads are secure, exaust is tight, ujoints OK,
> sway bar is tight, etc.
> I am begining to think that something in the rear suspension is loose or
> sloppy enough to allow a small amount of movement and cause a thumping sound
> as it moves around at slow speed. However, I cannot see any evidence of
> that. I have rebuilt Jeeps from the ground up and generally I can track
> down problems but this has me baffled.
> Has anyone had any problems with the rubber inserts in the rear suspension
> that might allow some slop in the joints? I suspect that is where the
> problem is but I don't want to tear it apart unless I have to.
> Paul D


ppdavid 08-21-2004 04:44 PM

Re: 2001 Grand has "thump" in rear end
 
Nope....put new tires on about 5,000 mi ago...still had thump.
Paul D

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4127AD30.151F41E1@cox.net...
> Tire tread separation bubble.
> Famous last words of Ford Explorer drivers.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> ppdavid wrote:
> >
> > My 2001 Grand Cherokee developed a "thumping" sound in the rear area at

low
> > speed on bumpy roads. Started around 40,000 mi...now at 60,000 mi.

Getting
> > worse. At first I thought it was bad shocks and replaced them to no

avail
> > at 45,000 mi. I have looked at everything I can think of that might be

a
> > problem and cannot find any reason for the noise. Spare tire is tight,

no
> > loose items in spare tire well, suspension looks OK (no visual evidence

of
> > anything moving around), brake pads are secure, exaust is tight, ujoints

OK,
> > sway bar is tight, etc.
> > I am begining to think that something in the rear suspension is loose or
> > sloppy enough to allow a small amount of movement and cause a thumping

sound
> > as it moves around at slow speed. However, I cannot see any evidence of
> > that. I have rebuilt Jeeps from the ground up and generally I can track
> > down problems but this has me baffled.
> > Has anyone had any problems with the rubber inserts in the rear

suspension
> > that might allow some slop in the joints? I suspect that is where the
> > problem is but I don't want to tear it apart unless I have to.
> > Paul D




ppdavid 08-21-2004 04:44 PM

Re: 2001 Grand has "thump" in rear end
 
Nope....put new tires on about 5,000 mi ago...still had thump.
Paul D

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4127AD30.151F41E1@cox.net...
> Tire tread separation bubble.
> Famous last words of Ford Explorer drivers.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> ppdavid wrote:
> >
> > My 2001 Grand Cherokee developed a "thumping" sound in the rear area at

low
> > speed on bumpy roads. Started around 40,000 mi...now at 60,000 mi.

Getting
> > worse. At first I thought it was bad shocks and replaced them to no

avail
> > at 45,000 mi. I have looked at everything I can think of that might be

a
> > problem and cannot find any reason for the noise. Spare tire is tight,

no
> > loose items in spare tire well, suspension looks OK (no visual evidence

of
> > anything moving around), brake pads are secure, exaust is tight, ujoints

OK,
> > sway bar is tight, etc.
> > I am begining to think that something in the rear suspension is loose or
> > sloppy enough to allow a small amount of movement and cause a thumping

sound
> > as it moves around at slow speed. However, I cannot see any evidence of
> > that. I have rebuilt Jeeps from the ground up and generally I can track
> > down problems but this has me baffled.
> > Has anyone had any problems with the rubber inserts in the rear

suspension
> > that might allow some slop in the joints? I suspect that is where the
> > problem is but I don't want to tear it apart unless I have to.
> > Paul D




ppdavid 08-21-2004 04:44 PM

Re: 2001 Grand has "thump" in rear end
 
Nope....put new tires on about 5,000 mi ago...still had thump.
Paul D

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4127AD30.151F41E1@cox.net...
> Tire tread separation bubble.
> Famous last words of Ford Explorer drivers.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> ppdavid wrote:
> >
> > My 2001 Grand Cherokee developed a "thumping" sound in the rear area at

low
> > speed on bumpy roads. Started around 40,000 mi...now at 60,000 mi.

Getting
> > worse. At first I thought it was bad shocks and replaced them to no

avail
> > at 45,000 mi. I have looked at everything I can think of that might be

a
> > problem and cannot find any reason for the noise. Spare tire is tight,

no
> > loose items in spare tire well, suspension looks OK (no visual evidence

of
> > anything moving around), brake pads are secure, exaust is tight, ujoints

OK,
> > sway bar is tight, etc.
> > I am begining to think that something in the rear suspension is loose or
> > sloppy enough to allow a small amount of movement and cause a thumping

sound
> > as it moves around at slow speed. However, I cannot see any evidence of
> > that. I have rebuilt Jeeps from the ground up and generally I can track
> > down problems but this has me baffled.
> > Has anyone had any problems with the rubber inserts in the rear

suspension
> > that might allow some slop in the joints? I suspect that is where the
> > problem is but I don't want to tear it apart unless I have to.
> > Paul D




ppdavid 08-21-2004 04:44 PM

Re: 2001 Grand has "thump" in rear end
 
Nope....put new tires on about 5,000 mi ago...still had thump.
Paul D

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4127AD30.151F41E1@cox.net...
> Tire tread separation bubble.
> Famous last words of Ford Explorer drivers.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> ppdavid wrote:
> >
> > My 2001 Grand Cherokee developed a "thumping" sound in the rear area at

low
> > speed on bumpy roads. Started around 40,000 mi...now at 60,000 mi.

Getting
> > worse. At first I thought it was bad shocks and replaced them to no

avail
> > at 45,000 mi. I have looked at everything I can think of that might be

a
> > problem and cannot find any reason for the noise. Spare tire is tight,

no
> > loose items in spare tire well, suspension looks OK (no visual evidence

of
> > anything moving around), brake pads are secure, exaust is tight, ujoints

OK,
> > sway bar is tight, etc.
> > I am begining to think that something in the rear suspension is loose or
> > sloppy enough to allow a small amount of movement and cause a thumping

sound
> > as it moves around at slow speed. However, I cannot see any evidence of
> > that. I have rebuilt Jeeps from the ground up and generally I can track
> > down problems but this has me baffled.
> > Has anyone had any problems with the rubber inserts in the rear

suspension
> > that might allow some slop in the joints? I suspect that is where the
> > problem is but I don't want to tear it apart unless I have to.
> > Paul D




L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 08-21-2004 04:46 PM

Re: 2001 Grand has "thump" in rear end
 
Bent axle, not replaced after it was totaled.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

padded wrote:
>
> Nope....put new tires on about 5,000 mi ago...still had thump.
> Paul D


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 08-21-2004 04:46 PM

Re: 2001 Grand has "thump" in rear end
 
Bent axle, not replaced after it was totaled.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

padded wrote:
>
> Nope....put new tires on about 5,000 mi ago...still had thump.
> Paul D


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 08-21-2004 04:46 PM

Re: 2001 Grand has "thump" in rear end
 
Bent axle, not replaced after it was totaled.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

padded wrote:
>
> Nope....put new tires on about 5,000 mi ago...still had thump.
> Paul D


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 08-21-2004 04:46 PM

Re: 2001 Grand has "thump" in rear end
 
Bent axle, not replaced after it was totaled.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

padded wrote:
>
> Nope....put new tires on about 5,000 mi ago...still had thump.
> Paul D


Jerry Bransford 08-21-2004 05:02 PM

Re: 2001 Grand has "thump" in rear end
 
Jeep is aware of this problem, my wife's '99 JGC had the same issue and our
2002 has it to a much rarer and smaller extent. It's something inside the
axle is all I can remember... they even replaced the driveshaft on the '99
trying to fix it. I think Jeep has a TSB on it.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
"ppdavid" <ppdavid.nospam@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:uDNVc.3258$LQ.81@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com.. .
> My 2001 Grand Cherokee developed a "thumping" sound in the rear area at

low
> speed on bumpy roads. Started around 40,000 mi...now at 60,000 mi.

Getting
> worse. At first I thought it was bad shocks and replaced them to no avail
> at 45,000 mi. I have looked at everything I can think of that might be a
> problem and cannot find any reason for the noise. Spare tire is tight, no
> loose items in spare tire well, suspension looks OK (no visual evidence of
> anything moving around), brake pads are secure, exaust is tight, ujoints

OK,
> sway bar is tight, etc.
> I am begining to think that something in the rear suspension is loose or
> sloppy enough to allow a small amount of movement and cause a thumping

sound
> as it moves around at slow speed. However, I cannot see any evidence of
> that. I have rebuilt Jeeps from the ground up and generally I can track
> down problems but this has me baffled.
> Has anyone had any problems with the rubber inserts in the rear suspension
> that might allow some slop in the joints? I suspect that is where the
> problem is but I don't want to tear it apart unless I have to.
> Paul D
>
>




Jerry Bransford 08-21-2004 05:02 PM

Re: 2001 Grand has "thump" in rear end
 
Jeep is aware of this problem, my wife's '99 JGC had the same issue and our
2002 has it to a much rarer and smaller extent. It's something inside the
axle is all I can remember... they even replaced the driveshaft on the '99
trying to fix it. I think Jeep has a TSB on it.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
"ppdavid" <ppdavid.nospam@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:uDNVc.3258$LQ.81@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com.. .
> My 2001 Grand Cherokee developed a "thumping" sound in the rear area at

low
> speed on bumpy roads. Started around 40,000 mi...now at 60,000 mi.

Getting
> worse. At first I thought it was bad shocks and replaced them to no avail
> at 45,000 mi. I have looked at everything I can think of that might be a
> problem and cannot find any reason for the noise. Spare tire is tight, no
> loose items in spare tire well, suspension looks OK (no visual evidence of
> anything moving around), brake pads are secure, exaust is tight, ujoints

OK,
> sway bar is tight, etc.
> I am begining to think that something in the rear suspension is loose or
> sloppy enough to allow a small amount of movement and cause a thumping

sound
> as it moves around at slow speed. However, I cannot see any evidence of
> that. I have rebuilt Jeeps from the ground up and generally I can track
> down problems but this has me baffled.
> Has anyone had any problems with the rubber inserts in the rear suspension
> that might allow some slop in the joints? I suspect that is where the
> problem is but I don't want to tear it apart unless I have to.
> Paul D
>
>




Jerry Bransford 08-21-2004 05:02 PM

Re: 2001 Grand has "thump" in rear end
 
Jeep is aware of this problem, my wife's '99 JGC had the same issue and our
2002 has it to a much rarer and smaller extent. It's something inside the
axle is all I can remember... they even replaced the driveshaft on the '99
trying to fix it. I think Jeep has a TSB on it.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
"ppdavid" <ppdavid.nospam@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:uDNVc.3258$LQ.81@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com.. .
> My 2001 Grand Cherokee developed a "thumping" sound in the rear area at

low
> speed on bumpy roads. Started around 40,000 mi...now at 60,000 mi.

Getting
> worse. At first I thought it was bad shocks and replaced them to no avail
> at 45,000 mi. I have looked at everything I can think of that might be a
> problem and cannot find any reason for the noise. Spare tire is tight, no
> loose items in spare tire well, suspension looks OK (no visual evidence of
> anything moving around), brake pads are secure, exaust is tight, ujoints

OK,
> sway bar is tight, etc.
> I am begining to think that something in the rear suspension is loose or
> sloppy enough to allow a small amount of movement and cause a thumping

sound
> as it moves around at slow speed. However, I cannot see any evidence of
> that. I have rebuilt Jeeps from the ground up and generally I can track
> down problems but this has me baffled.
> Has anyone had any problems with the rubber inserts in the rear suspension
> that might allow some slop in the joints? I suspect that is where the
> problem is but I don't want to tear it apart unless I have to.
> Paul D
>
>




Jerry Bransford 08-21-2004 05:02 PM

Re: 2001 Grand has "thump" in rear end
 
Jeep is aware of this problem, my wife's '99 JGC had the same issue and our
2002 has it to a much rarer and smaller extent. It's something inside the
axle is all I can remember... they even replaced the driveshaft on the '99
trying to fix it. I think Jeep has a TSB on it.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
"ppdavid" <ppdavid.nospam@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:uDNVc.3258$LQ.81@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com.. .
> My 2001 Grand Cherokee developed a "thumping" sound in the rear area at

low
> speed on bumpy roads. Started around 40,000 mi...now at 60,000 mi.

Getting
> worse. At first I thought it was bad shocks and replaced them to no avail
> at 45,000 mi. I have looked at everything I can think of that might be a
> problem and cannot find any reason for the noise. Spare tire is tight, no
> loose items in spare tire well, suspension looks OK (no visual evidence of
> anything moving around), brake pads are secure, exaust is tight, ujoints

OK,
> sway bar is tight, etc.
> I am begining to think that something in the rear suspension is loose or
> sloppy enough to allow a small amount of movement and cause a thumping

sound
> as it moves around at slow speed. However, I cannot see any evidence of
> that. I have rebuilt Jeeps from the ground up and generally I can track
> down problems but this has me baffled.
> Has anyone had any problems with the rubber inserts in the rear suspension
> that might allow some slop in the joints? I suspect that is where the
> problem is but I don't want to tear it apart unless I have to.
> Paul D
>
>




Lon 08-21-2004 08:06 PM

Re: 2001 Grand has "thump" in rear end
 
ppdavid proclaimed:

> My 2001 Grand Cherokee developed a "thumping" sound in the rear area at low
> speed on bumpy roads. Started around 40,000 mi...now at 60,000 mi. Getting
> worse. At first I thought it was bad shocks and replaced them to no avail
> at 45,000 mi. I have looked at everything I can think of that might be a
> problem and cannot find any reason for the noise. Spare tire is tight, no
> loose items in spare tire well, suspension looks OK (no visual evidence of
> anything moving around), brake pads are secure, exaust is tight, ujoints OK,
> sway bar is tight, etc.
> I am begining to think that something in the rear suspension is loose or
> sloppy enough to allow a small amount of movement and cause a thumping sound
> as it moves around at slow speed. However, I cannot see any evidence of
> that. I have rebuilt Jeeps from the ground up and generally I can track
> down problems but this has me baffled.
> Has anyone had any problems with the rubber inserts in the rear suspension
> that might allow some slop in the joints? I suspect that is where the
> problem is but I don't want to tear it apart unless I have to.
> Paul D


Check the exhaust where it goes over the rear axle for shiny spots.

Lon 08-21-2004 08:06 PM

Re: 2001 Grand has "thump" in rear end
 
ppdavid proclaimed:

> My 2001 Grand Cherokee developed a "thumping" sound in the rear area at low
> speed on bumpy roads. Started around 40,000 mi...now at 60,000 mi. Getting
> worse. At first I thought it was bad shocks and replaced them to no avail
> at 45,000 mi. I have looked at everything I can think of that might be a
> problem and cannot find any reason for the noise. Spare tire is tight, no
> loose items in spare tire well, suspension looks OK (no visual evidence of
> anything moving around), brake pads are secure, exaust is tight, ujoints OK,
> sway bar is tight, etc.
> I am begining to think that something in the rear suspension is loose or
> sloppy enough to allow a small amount of movement and cause a thumping sound
> as it moves around at slow speed. However, I cannot see any evidence of
> that. I have rebuilt Jeeps from the ground up and generally I can track
> down problems but this has me baffled.
> Has anyone had any problems with the rubber inserts in the rear suspension
> that might allow some slop in the joints? I suspect that is where the
> problem is but I don't want to tear it apart unless I have to.
> Paul D


Check the exhaust where it goes over the rear axle for shiny spots.

Lon 08-21-2004 08:06 PM

Re: 2001 Grand has "thump" in rear end
 
ppdavid proclaimed:

> My 2001 Grand Cherokee developed a "thumping" sound in the rear area at low
> speed on bumpy roads. Started around 40,000 mi...now at 60,000 mi. Getting
> worse. At first I thought it was bad shocks and replaced them to no avail
> at 45,000 mi. I have looked at everything I can think of that might be a
> problem and cannot find any reason for the noise. Spare tire is tight, no
> loose items in spare tire well, suspension looks OK (no visual evidence of
> anything moving around), brake pads are secure, exaust is tight, ujoints OK,
> sway bar is tight, etc.
> I am begining to think that something in the rear suspension is loose or
> sloppy enough to allow a small amount of movement and cause a thumping sound
> as it moves around at slow speed. However, I cannot see any evidence of
> that. I have rebuilt Jeeps from the ground up and generally I can track
> down problems but this has me baffled.
> Has anyone had any problems with the rubber inserts in the rear suspension
> that might allow some slop in the joints? I suspect that is where the
> problem is but I don't want to tear it apart unless I have to.
> Paul D


Check the exhaust where it goes over the rear axle for shiny spots.

Lon 08-21-2004 08:06 PM

Re: 2001 Grand has "thump" in rear end
 
ppdavid proclaimed:

> My 2001 Grand Cherokee developed a "thumping" sound in the rear area at low
> speed on bumpy roads. Started around 40,000 mi...now at 60,000 mi. Getting
> worse. At first I thought it was bad shocks and replaced them to no avail
> at 45,000 mi. I have looked at everything I can think of that might be a
> problem and cannot find any reason for the noise. Spare tire is tight, no
> loose items in spare tire well, suspension looks OK (no visual evidence of
> anything moving around), brake pads are secure, exaust is tight, ujoints OK,
> sway bar is tight, etc.
> I am begining to think that something in the rear suspension is loose or
> sloppy enough to allow a small amount of movement and cause a thumping sound
> as it moves around at slow speed. However, I cannot see any evidence of
> that. I have rebuilt Jeeps from the ground up and generally I can track
> down problems but this has me baffled.
> Has anyone had any problems with the rubber inserts in the rear suspension
> that might allow some slop in the joints? I suspect that is where the
> problem is but I don't want to tear it apart unless I have to.
> Paul D


Check the exhaust where it goes over the rear axle for shiny spots.

ppdavid 08-21-2004 10:21 PM

Re: 2001 Grand has "thump" in rear end
 
Jerry,
Mine is Dana 44....is that what you had problem with?
Paul D

"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
news:ALOVc.122991$sh.6829@fed1read06...
> Jeep is aware of this problem, my wife's '99 JGC had the same issue and

our
> 2002 has it to a much rarer and smaller extent. It's something inside the
> axle is all I can remember... they even replaced the driveshaft on the '99
> trying to fix it. I think Jeep has a TSB on it.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
> "ppdavid" <ppdavid.nospam@swbell.net> wrote in message
> news:uDNVc.3258$LQ.81@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com.. .
> > My 2001 Grand Cherokee developed a "thumping" sound in the rear area at

> low
> > speed on bumpy roads. Started around 40,000 mi...now at 60,000 mi.

> Getting
> > worse. At first I thought it was bad shocks and replaced them to no

avail
> > at 45,000 mi. I have looked at everything I can think of that might be

a
> > problem and cannot find any reason for the noise. Spare tire is tight,

no
> > loose items in spare tire well, suspension looks OK (no visual evidence

of
> > anything moving around), brake pads are secure, exaust is tight, ujoints

> OK,
> > sway bar is tight, etc.
> > I am begining to think that something in the rear suspension is loose or
> > sloppy enough to allow a small amount of movement and cause a thumping

> sound
> > as it moves around at slow speed. However, I cannot see any evidence of
> > that. I have rebuilt Jeeps from the ground up and generally I can track
> > down problems but this has me baffled.
> > Has anyone had any problems with the rubber inserts in the rear

suspension
> > that might allow some slop in the joints? I suspect that is where the
> > problem is but I don't want to tear it apart unless I have to.
> > Paul D
> >
> >

>
>




ppdavid 08-21-2004 10:21 PM

Re: 2001 Grand has "thump" in rear end
 
Jerry,
Mine is Dana 44....is that what you had problem with?
Paul D

"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
news:ALOVc.122991$sh.6829@fed1read06...
> Jeep is aware of this problem, my wife's '99 JGC had the same issue and

our
> 2002 has it to a much rarer and smaller extent. It's something inside the
> axle is all I can remember... they even replaced the driveshaft on the '99
> trying to fix it. I think Jeep has a TSB on it.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
> "ppdavid" <ppdavid.nospam@swbell.net> wrote in message
> news:uDNVc.3258$LQ.81@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com.. .
> > My 2001 Grand Cherokee developed a "thumping" sound in the rear area at

> low
> > speed on bumpy roads. Started around 40,000 mi...now at 60,000 mi.

> Getting
> > worse. At first I thought it was bad shocks and replaced them to no

avail
> > at 45,000 mi. I have looked at everything I can think of that might be

a
> > problem and cannot find any reason for the noise. Spare tire is tight,

no
> > loose items in spare tire well, suspension looks OK (no visual evidence

of
> > anything moving around), brake pads are secure, exaust is tight, ujoints

> OK,
> > sway bar is tight, etc.
> > I am begining to think that something in the rear suspension is loose or
> > sloppy enough to allow a small amount of movement and cause a thumping

> sound
> > as it moves around at slow speed. However, I cannot see any evidence of
> > that. I have rebuilt Jeeps from the ground up and generally I can track
> > down problems but this has me baffled.
> > Has anyone had any problems with the rubber inserts in the rear

suspension
> > that might allow some slop in the joints? I suspect that is where the
> > problem is but I don't want to tear it apart unless I have to.
> > Paul D
> >
> >

>
>




ppdavid 08-21-2004 10:21 PM

Re: 2001 Grand has "thump" in rear end
 
Jerry,
Mine is Dana 44....is that what you had problem with?
Paul D

"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
news:ALOVc.122991$sh.6829@fed1read06...
> Jeep is aware of this problem, my wife's '99 JGC had the same issue and

our
> 2002 has it to a much rarer and smaller extent. It's something inside the
> axle is all I can remember... they even replaced the driveshaft on the '99
> trying to fix it. I think Jeep has a TSB on it.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
> "ppdavid" <ppdavid.nospam@swbell.net> wrote in message
> news:uDNVc.3258$LQ.81@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com.. .
> > My 2001 Grand Cherokee developed a "thumping" sound in the rear area at

> low
> > speed on bumpy roads. Started around 40,000 mi...now at 60,000 mi.

> Getting
> > worse. At first I thought it was bad shocks and replaced them to no

avail
> > at 45,000 mi. I have looked at everything I can think of that might be

a
> > problem and cannot find any reason for the noise. Spare tire is tight,

no
> > loose items in spare tire well, suspension looks OK (no visual evidence

of
> > anything moving around), brake pads are secure, exaust is tight, ujoints

> OK,
> > sway bar is tight, etc.
> > I am begining to think that something in the rear suspension is loose or
> > sloppy enough to allow a small amount of movement and cause a thumping

> sound
> > as it moves around at slow speed. However, I cannot see any evidence of
> > that. I have rebuilt Jeeps from the ground up and generally I can track
> > down problems but this has me baffled.
> > Has anyone had any problems with the rubber inserts in the rear

suspension
> > that might allow some slop in the joints? I suspect that is where the
> > problem is but I don't want to tear it apart unless I have to.
> > Paul D
> >
> >

>
>




ppdavid 08-21-2004 10:21 PM

Re: 2001 Grand has "thump" in rear end
 
Jerry,
Mine is Dana 44....is that what you had problem with?
Paul D

"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
news:ALOVc.122991$sh.6829@fed1read06...
> Jeep is aware of this problem, my wife's '99 JGC had the same issue and

our
> 2002 has it to a much rarer and smaller extent. It's something inside the
> axle is all I can remember... they even replaced the driveshaft on the '99
> trying to fix it. I think Jeep has a TSB on it.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
> "ppdavid" <ppdavid.nospam@swbell.net> wrote in message
> news:uDNVc.3258$LQ.81@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com.. .
> > My 2001 Grand Cherokee developed a "thumping" sound in the rear area at

> low
> > speed on bumpy roads. Started around 40,000 mi...now at 60,000 mi.

> Getting
> > worse. At first I thought it was bad shocks and replaced them to no

avail
> > at 45,000 mi. I have looked at everything I can think of that might be

a
> > problem and cannot find any reason for the noise. Spare tire is tight,

no
> > loose items in spare tire well, suspension looks OK (no visual evidence

of
> > anything moving around), brake pads are secure, exaust is tight, ujoints

> OK,
> > sway bar is tight, etc.
> > I am begining to think that something in the rear suspension is loose or
> > sloppy enough to allow a small amount of movement and cause a thumping

> sound
> > as it moves around at slow speed. However, I cannot see any evidence of
> > that. I have rebuilt Jeeps from the ground up and generally I can track
> > down problems but this has me baffled.
> > Has anyone had any problems with the rubber inserts in the rear

suspension
> > that might allow some slop in the joints? I suspect that is where the
> > problem is but I don't want to tear it apart unless I have to.
> > Paul D
> >
> >

>
>




mic canic 08-23-2004 10:03 PM

Re: 2001 Grand has "thump" in rear end
 
the upper rear control arm has a balljoint in it that might be bad

ppdavid wrote:

> My 2001 Grand Cherokee developed a "thumping" sound in the rear area at low
> speed on bumpy roads. Started around 40,000 mi...now at 60,000 mi. Getting
> worse. At first I thought it was bad shocks and replaced them to no avail
> at 45,000 mi. I have looked at everything I can think of that might be a
> problem and cannot find any reason for the noise. Spare tire is tight, no
> loose items in spare tire well, suspension looks OK (no visual evidence of
> anything moving around), brake pads are secure, exaust is tight, ujoints OK,
> sway bar is tight, etc.
> I am begining to think that something in the rear suspension is loose or
> sloppy enough to allow a small amount of movement and cause a thumping sound
> as it moves around at slow speed. However, I cannot see any evidence of
> that. I have rebuilt Jeeps from the ground up and generally I can track
> down problems but this has me baffled.
> Has anyone had any problems with the rubber inserts in the rear suspension
> that might allow some slop in the joints? I suspect that is where the
> problem is but I don't want to tear it apart unless I have to.
> Paul D



mic canic 08-23-2004 10:03 PM

Re: 2001 Grand has "thump" in rear end
 
the upper rear control arm has a balljoint in it that might be bad

ppdavid wrote:

> My 2001 Grand Cherokee developed a "thumping" sound in the rear area at low
> speed on bumpy roads. Started around 40,000 mi...now at 60,000 mi. Getting
> worse. At first I thought it was bad shocks and replaced them to no avail
> at 45,000 mi. I have looked at everything I can think of that might be a
> problem and cannot find any reason for the noise. Spare tire is tight, no
> loose items in spare tire well, suspension looks OK (no visual evidence of
> anything moving around), brake pads are secure, exaust is tight, ujoints OK,
> sway bar is tight, etc.
> I am begining to think that something in the rear suspension is loose or
> sloppy enough to allow a small amount of movement and cause a thumping sound
> as it moves around at slow speed. However, I cannot see any evidence of
> that. I have rebuilt Jeeps from the ground up and generally I can track
> down problems but this has me baffled.
> Has anyone had any problems with the rubber inserts in the rear suspension
> that might allow some slop in the joints? I suspect that is where the
> problem is but I don't want to tear it apart unless I have to.
> Paul D



mic canic 08-23-2004 10:03 PM

Re: 2001 Grand has "thump" in rear end
 
the upper rear control arm has a balljoint in it that might be bad

ppdavid wrote:

> My 2001 Grand Cherokee developed a "thumping" sound in the rear area at low
> speed on bumpy roads. Started around 40,000 mi...now at 60,000 mi. Getting
> worse. At first I thought it was bad shocks and replaced them to no avail
> at 45,000 mi. I have looked at everything I can think of that might be a
> problem and cannot find any reason for the noise. Spare tire is tight, no
> loose items in spare tire well, suspension looks OK (no visual evidence of
> anything moving around), brake pads are secure, exaust is tight, ujoints OK,
> sway bar is tight, etc.
> I am begining to think that something in the rear suspension is loose or
> sloppy enough to allow a small amount of movement and cause a thumping sound
> as it moves around at slow speed. However, I cannot see any evidence of
> that. I have rebuilt Jeeps from the ground up and generally I can track
> down problems but this has me baffled.
> Has anyone had any problems with the rubber inserts in the rear suspension
> that might allow some slop in the joints? I suspect that is where the
> problem is but I don't want to tear it apart unless I have to.
> Paul D



mic canic 08-23-2004 10:03 PM

Re: 2001 Grand has "thump" in rear end
 
the upper rear control arm has a balljoint in it that might be bad

ppdavid wrote:

> My 2001 Grand Cherokee developed a "thumping" sound in the rear area at low
> speed on bumpy roads. Started around 40,000 mi...now at 60,000 mi. Getting
> worse. At first I thought it was bad shocks and replaced them to no avail
> at 45,000 mi. I have looked at everything I can think of that might be a
> problem and cannot find any reason for the noise. Spare tire is tight, no
> loose items in spare tire well, suspension looks OK (no visual evidence of
> anything moving around), brake pads are secure, exaust is tight, ujoints OK,
> sway bar is tight, etc.
> I am begining to think that something in the rear suspension is loose or
> sloppy enough to allow a small amount of movement and cause a thumping sound
> as it moves around at slow speed. However, I cannot see any evidence of
> that. I have rebuilt Jeeps from the ground up and generally I can track
> down problems but this has me baffled.
> Has anyone had any problems with the rubber inserts in the rear suspension
> that might allow some slop in the joints? I suspect that is where the
> problem is but I don't want to tear it apart unless I have to.
> Paul D



Jerry Bransford 08-24-2004 01:43 AM

Re: 2001 Grand has "thump" in rear end
 
Yes, both of my wife's JGCs had the same aluminum JGC version of the Dana
44.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
"ppdavid" <ppdavid.nospam@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:YqTVc.10242$Yn6.7559@newssvr22.news.prodigy.c om...
> Jerry,
> Mine is Dana 44....is that what you had problem with?
> Paul D
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:ALOVc.122991$sh.6829@fed1read06...
> > Jeep is aware of this problem, my wife's '99 JGC had the same issue and

> our
> > 2002 has it to a much rarer and smaller extent. It's something inside

the
> > axle is all I can remember... they even replaced the driveshaft on the

'99
> > trying to fix it. I think Jeep has a TSB on it.
> >
> > Jerry
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
> > "ppdavid" <ppdavid.nospam@swbell.net> wrote in message
> > news:uDNVc.3258$LQ.81@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com.. .
> > > My 2001 Grand Cherokee developed a "thumping" sound in the rear area

at
> > low
> > > speed on bumpy roads. Started around 40,000 mi...now at 60,000 mi.

> > Getting
> > > worse. At first I thought it was bad shocks and replaced them to no

> avail
> > > at 45,000 mi. I have looked at everything I can think of that might

be
> a
> > > problem and cannot find any reason for the noise. Spare tire is tight,

> no
> > > loose items in spare tire well, suspension looks OK (no visual

evidence
> of
> > > anything moving around), brake pads are secure, exaust is tight,

ujoints
> > OK,
> > > sway bar is tight, etc.
> > > I am begining to think that something in the rear suspension is loose

or
> > > sloppy enough to allow a small amount of movement and cause a thumping

> > sound
> > > as it moves around at slow speed. However, I cannot see any evidence

of
> > > that. I have rebuilt Jeeps from the ground up and generally I can

track
> > > down problems but this has me baffled.
> > > Has anyone had any problems with the rubber inserts in the rear

> suspension
> > > that might allow some slop in the joints? I suspect that is where the
> > > problem is but I don't want to tear it apart unless I have to.
> > > Paul D
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




Jerry Bransford 08-24-2004 01:43 AM

Re: 2001 Grand has "thump" in rear end
 
Yes, both of my wife's JGCs had the same aluminum JGC version of the Dana
44.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
"ppdavid" <ppdavid.nospam@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:YqTVc.10242$Yn6.7559@newssvr22.news.prodigy.c om...
> Jerry,
> Mine is Dana 44....is that what you had problem with?
> Paul D
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:ALOVc.122991$sh.6829@fed1read06...
> > Jeep is aware of this problem, my wife's '99 JGC had the same issue and

> our
> > 2002 has it to a much rarer and smaller extent. It's something inside

the
> > axle is all I can remember... they even replaced the driveshaft on the

'99
> > trying to fix it. I think Jeep has a TSB on it.
> >
> > Jerry
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
> > "ppdavid" <ppdavid.nospam@swbell.net> wrote in message
> > news:uDNVc.3258$LQ.81@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com.. .
> > > My 2001 Grand Cherokee developed a "thumping" sound in the rear area

at
> > low
> > > speed on bumpy roads. Started around 40,000 mi...now at 60,000 mi.

> > Getting
> > > worse. At first I thought it was bad shocks and replaced them to no

> avail
> > > at 45,000 mi. I have looked at everything I can think of that might

be
> a
> > > problem and cannot find any reason for the noise. Spare tire is tight,

> no
> > > loose items in spare tire well, suspension looks OK (no visual

evidence
> of
> > > anything moving around), brake pads are secure, exaust is tight,

ujoints
> > OK,
> > > sway bar is tight, etc.
> > > I am begining to think that something in the rear suspension is loose

or
> > > sloppy enough to allow a small amount of movement and cause a thumping

> > sound
> > > as it moves around at slow speed. However, I cannot see any evidence

of
> > > that. I have rebuilt Jeeps from the ground up and generally I can

track
> > > down problems but this has me baffled.
> > > Has anyone had any problems with the rubber inserts in the rear

> suspension
> > > that might allow some slop in the joints? I suspect that is where the
> > > problem is but I don't want to tear it apart unless I have to.
> > > Paul D
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




Jerry Bransford 08-24-2004 01:43 AM

Re: 2001 Grand has "thump" in rear end
 
Yes, both of my wife's JGCs had the same aluminum JGC version of the Dana
44.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
"ppdavid" <ppdavid.nospam@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:YqTVc.10242$Yn6.7559@newssvr22.news.prodigy.c om...
> Jerry,
> Mine is Dana 44....is that what you had problem with?
> Paul D
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:ALOVc.122991$sh.6829@fed1read06...
> > Jeep is aware of this problem, my wife's '99 JGC had the same issue and

> our
> > 2002 has it to a much rarer and smaller extent. It's something inside

the
> > axle is all I can remember... they even replaced the driveshaft on the

'99
> > trying to fix it. I think Jeep has a TSB on it.
> >
> > Jerry
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
> > "ppdavid" <ppdavid.nospam@swbell.net> wrote in message
> > news:uDNVc.3258$LQ.81@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com.. .
> > > My 2001 Grand Cherokee developed a "thumping" sound in the rear area

at
> > low
> > > speed on bumpy roads. Started around 40,000 mi...now at 60,000 mi.

> > Getting
> > > worse. At first I thought it was bad shocks and replaced them to no

> avail
> > > at 45,000 mi. I have looked at everything I can think of that might

be
> a
> > > problem and cannot find any reason for the noise. Spare tire is tight,

> no
> > > loose items in spare tire well, suspension looks OK (no visual

evidence
> of
> > > anything moving around), brake pads are secure, exaust is tight,

ujoints
> > OK,
> > > sway bar is tight, etc.
> > > I am begining to think that something in the rear suspension is loose

or
> > > sloppy enough to allow a small amount of movement and cause a thumping

> > sound
> > > as it moves around at slow speed. However, I cannot see any evidence

of
> > > that. I have rebuilt Jeeps from the ground up and generally I can

track
> > > down problems but this has me baffled.
> > > Has anyone had any problems with the rubber inserts in the rear

> suspension
> > > that might allow some slop in the joints? I suspect that is where the
> > > problem is but I don't want to tear it apart unless I have to.
> > > Paul D
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




Jerry Bransford 08-24-2004 01:43 AM

Re: 2001 Grand has "thump" in rear end
 
Yes, both of my wife's JGCs had the same aluminum JGC version of the Dana
44.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
"ppdavid" <ppdavid.nospam@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:YqTVc.10242$Yn6.7559@newssvr22.news.prodigy.c om...
> Jerry,
> Mine is Dana 44....is that what you had problem with?
> Paul D
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:ALOVc.122991$sh.6829@fed1read06...
> > Jeep is aware of this problem, my wife's '99 JGC had the same issue and

> our
> > 2002 has it to a much rarer and smaller extent. It's something inside

the
> > axle is all I can remember... they even replaced the driveshaft on the

'99
> > trying to fix it. I think Jeep has a TSB on it.
> >
> > Jerry
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
> > "ppdavid" <ppdavid.nospam@swbell.net> wrote in message
> > news:uDNVc.3258$LQ.81@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com.. .
> > > My 2001 Grand Cherokee developed a "thumping" sound in the rear area

at
> > low
> > > speed on bumpy roads. Started around 40,000 mi...now at 60,000 mi.

> > Getting
> > > worse. At first I thought it was bad shocks and replaced them to no

> avail
> > > at 45,000 mi. I have looked at everything I can think of that might

be
> a
> > > problem and cannot find any reason for the noise. Spare tire is tight,

> no
> > > loose items in spare tire well, suspension looks OK (no visual

evidence
> of
> > > anything moving around), brake pads are secure, exaust is tight,

ujoints
> > OK,
> > > sway bar is tight, etc.
> > > I am begining to think that something in the rear suspension is loose

or
> > > sloppy enough to allow a small amount of movement and cause a thumping

> > sound
> > > as it moves around at slow speed. However, I cannot see any evidence

of
> > > that. I have rebuilt Jeeps from the ground up and generally I can

track
> > > down problems but this has me baffled.
> > > Has anyone had any problems with the rubber inserts in the rear

> suspension
> > > that might allow some slop in the joints? I suspect that is where the
> > > problem is but I don't want to tear it apart unless I have to.
> > > Paul D
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>





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