Re: 2001 Grand Cherokee brake issues
 

dcollivier did pass the time by typing:
> Antilock brakes are not supposed to "let go and allow no braking during hard
> stops". I would say that it is a failure of some sort at any time your bake
> pedal hits the floor during a hard stop and you are left with no bakes at
> all....

Pedal going to the floor tells me a couple of things.
If it's a leak you will know from the brake fluid level.
So assuming no leak,

1) bad master cyl that is bypassing internally
2) ballooning hose




> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:425DCF15.3CBB2E26@cox.net...
>> Antilock Brake System are supposed to "let go during a hard stop"
>> so you may steer around the intersections.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> dcollivier wrote:
>>>
>>> I have a 2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 43,000 Km's 6 cyl power everything.
>>> The brakes will just fade to nothing and I am left with no brakes at all.
>>> This is the third time that this has happened to me. The first time the
>>> dealer told me that the pads were done up front and that it was a fluke that
>>> the brakes faded that bad. they replaced the pads under warrenty and
>>> adjusted and cleaned the rear. The seconf time it happened the brakes let
>>> go during a hard stop. The pedal went to the floor and there was no braking
>>> left. The dealership replaced the master cylinder and cleaned and adjusted
>>> the brakes at all corners. The tech said that he checked the antilock
>>> system and there was nothing wrong. I asked about recall's and was told
>>> that there were none for this problem. The Jeep was fine for about a month
>>> and two days ago the brakes went agian during a hard stop. The dealer towed
>>> the Jeep in and I told them that I did not want it back unless it was fixed
>>> in fear of loosing braking and not being able to avoid an accident. Any
>>> help would be appreciated..

Re: 2001 Grand Cherokee brake issues
 

dcollivier did pass the time by typing:
> Antilock brakes are not supposed to "let go and allow no braking during hard
> stops". I would say that it is a failure of some sort at any time your bake
> pedal hits the floor during a hard stop and you are left with no bakes at
> all....

Pedal going to the floor tells me a couple of things.
If it's a leak you will know from the brake fluid level.
So assuming no leak,

1) bad master cyl that is bypassing internally
2) ballooning hose




> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:425DCF15.3CBB2E26@cox.net...
>> Antilock Brake System are supposed to "let go during a hard stop"
>> so you may steer around the intersections.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> dcollivier wrote:
>>>
>>> I have a 2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 43,000 Km's 6 cyl power everything.
>>> The brakes will just fade to nothing and I am left with no brakes at all.
>>> This is the third time that this has happened to me. The first time the
>>> dealer told me that the pads were done up front and that it was a fluke that
>>> the brakes faded that bad. they replaced the pads under warrenty and
>>> adjusted and cleaned the rear. The seconf time it happened the brakes let
>>> go during a hard stop. The pedal went to the floor and there was no braking
>>> left. The dealership replaced the master cylinder and cleaned and adjusted
>>> the brakes at all corners. The tech said that he checked the antilock
>>> system and there was nothing wrong. I asked about recall's and was told
>>> that there were none for this problem. The Jeep was fine for about a month
>>> and two days ago the brakes went agian during a hard stop. The dealer towed
>>> the Jeep in and I told them that I did not want it back unless it was fixed
>>> in fear of loosing braking and not being able to avoid an accident. Any
>>> help would be appreciated..

Re: 2001 Grand Cherokee brake issues
 

dcollivier did pass the time by typing:
> Antilock brakes are not supposed to "let go and allow no braking during hard
> stops". I would say that it is a failure of some sort at any time your bake
> pedal hits the floor during a hard stop and you are left with no bakes at
> all....

Pedal going to the floor tells me a couple of things.
If it's a leak you will know from the brake fluid level.
So assuming no leak,

1) bad master cyl that is bypassing internally
2) ballooning hose




> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:425DCF15.3CBB2E26@cox.net...
>> Antilock Brake System are supposed to "let go during a hard stop"
>> so you may steer around the intersections.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> dcollivier wrote:
>>>
>>> I have a 2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 43,000 Km's 6 cyl power everything.
>>> The brakes will just fade to nothing and I am left with no brakes at all.
>>> This is the third time that this has happened to me. The first time the
>>> dealer told me that the pads were done up front and that it was a fluke that
>>> the brakes faded that bad. they replaced the pads under warrenty and
>>> adjusted and cleaned the rear. The seconf time it happened the brakes let
>>> go during a hard stop. The pedal went to the floor and there was no braking
>>> left. The dealership replaced the master cylinder and cleaned and adjusted
>>> the brakes at all corners. The tech said that he checked the antilock
>>> system and there was nothing wrong. I asked about recall's and was told
>>> that there were none for this problem. The Jeep was fine for about a month
>>> and two days ago the brakes went agian during a hard stop. The dealer towed
>>> the Jeep in and I told them that I did not want it back unless it was fixed
>>> in fear of loosing braking and not being able to avoid an accident. Any
>>> help would be appreciated..

Re: 2001 Grand Cherokee brake issues
 

Your warning brake light should have been lit long before the
failures of both the master cylinder's primary, secondary cups, and the
proportioning valve detecting a leak. Why were you driving it?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

dcollivier wrote:
>
> Antilock brakes are not supposed to "let go and allow no braking during hard
> stops". I would say that it is a failure of some sort at any time your bake
> pedal hits the floor during a hard stop and you are left with no bakes at
> all....

Re: 2001 Grand Cherokee brake issues
 

Your warning brake light should have been lit long before the
failures of both the master cylinder's primary, secondary cups, and the
proportioning valve detecting a leak. Why were you driving it?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

dcollivier wrote:
>
> Antilock brakes are not supposed to "let go and allow no braking during hard
> stops". I would say that it is a failure of some sort at any time your bake
> pedal hits the floor during a hard stop and you are left with no bakes at
> all....

Re: 2001 Grand Cherokee brake issues
 

Your warning brake light should have been lit long before the
failures of both the master cylinder's primary, secondary cups, and the
proportioning valve detecting a leak. Why were you driving it?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

dcollivier wrote:
>
> Antilock brakes are not supposed to "let go and allow no braking during hard
> stops". I would say that it is a failure of some sort at any time your bake
> pedal hits the floor during a hard stop and you are left with no bakes at
> all....

Re: 2001 Grand Cherokee brake issues
 

Your warning brake light should have been lit long before the
failures of both the master cylinder's primary, secondary cups, and the
proportioning valve detecting a leak. Why were you driving it?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

dcollivier wrote:
>
> Antilock brakes are not supposed to "let go and allow no braking during hard
> stops". I would say that it is a failure of some sort at any time your bake
> pedal hits the floor during a hard stop and you are left with no bakes at
> all....

Re: 2001 Grand Cherokee brake issues
 

maybe a flex hose is balloning out under pressure

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:

> Antilock Brake System are supposed to "let go during a hard stop"
> so you may steer around the intersections.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> dcollivier wrote:
> >
> > I have a 2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 43,000 Km's 6 cyl power everything.
> > The brakes will just fade to nothing and I am left with no brakes at all.
> > This is the third time that this has happened to me. The first time the
> > dealer told me that the pads were done up front and that it was a fluke that
> > the brakes faded that bad. they replaced the pads under warrenty and
> > adjusted and cleaned the rear. The seconf time it happened the brakes let
> > go during a hard stop. The pedal went to the floor and there was no braking
> > left. The dealership replaced the master cylinder and cleaned and adjusted
> > the brakes at all corners. The tech said that he checked the antilock
> > system and there was nothing wrong. I asked about recall's and was told
> > that there were none for this problem. The Jeep was fine for about a month
> > and two days ago the brakes went agian during a hard stop. The dealer towed
> > the Jeep in and I told them that I did not want it back unless it was fixed
> > in fear of loosing braking and not being able to avoid an accident. Any
> > help would be appreciated..

Re: 2001 Grand Cherokee brake issues
 

maybe a flex hose is balloning out under pressure

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:

> Antilock Brake System are supposed to "let go during a hard stop"
> so you may steer around the intersections.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> dcollivier wrote:
> >
> > I have a 2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 43,000 Km's 6 cyl power everything.
> > The brakes will just fade to nothing and I am left with no brakes at all.
> > This is the third time that this has happened to me. The first time the
> > dealer told me that the pads were done up front and that it was a fluke that
> > the brakes faded that bad. they replaced the pads under warrenty and
> > adjusted and cleaned the rear. The seconf time it happened the brakes let
> > go during a hard stop. The pedal went to the floor and there was no braking
> > left. The dealership replaced the master cylinder and cleaned and adjusted
> > the brakes at all corners. The tech said that he checked the antilock
> > system and there was nothing wrong. I asked about recall's and was told
> > that there were none for this problem. The Jeep was fine for about a month
> > and two days ago the brakes went agian during a hard stop. The dealer towed
> > the Jeep in and I told them that I did not want it back unless it was fixed
> > in fear of loosing braking and not being able to avoid an accident. Any
> > help would be appreciated..

Re: 2001 Grand Cherokee brake issues
 

maybe a flex hose is balloning out under pressure

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:

> Antilock Brake System are supposed to "let go during a hard stop"
> so you may steer around the intersections.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> dcollivier wrote:
> >
> > I have a 2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 43,000 Km's 6 cyl power everything.
> > The brakes will just fade to nothing and I am left with no brakes at all.
> > This is the third time that this has happened to me. The first time the
> > dealer told me that the pads were done up front and that it was a fluke that
> > the brakes faded that bad. they replaced the pads under warrenty and
> > adjusted and cleaned the rear. The seconf time it happened the brakes let
> > go during a hard stop. The pedal went to the floor and there was no braking
> > left. The dealership replaced the master cylinder and cleaned and adjusted
> > the brakes at all corners. The tech said that he checked the antilock
> > system and there was nothing wrong. I asked about recall's and was told
> > that there were none for this problem. The Jeep was fine for about a month
> > and two days ago the brakes went agian during a hard stop. The dealer towed
> > the Jeep in and I told them that I did not want it back unless it was fixed
> > in fear of loosing braking and not being able to avoid an accident. Any
> > help would be appreciated..