Re: 2000 Grand Cherokee - New computer - P1685
 

On Mar 7, 4:14 pm, XS11E <xs11...@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote:
> michael.hask...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I have been having issues with my 2000 Grand Cherokee V6 that several
> > shops advised would be replaced by installing a new computer.
>
> I'm trying to figure out how you got a 2000 Grand Cherokee with a V6
> engine.

My bad. Typing while tired.

Re: 2000 Grand Cherokee - New computer - P1685
 

"Ingram Developers" <michael.haskins@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mar 7, 4:14 pm, XS11E <xs11...@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote:
>> michael.hask...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > I have been having issues with my 2000 Grand Cherokee V6 that
>> > several shops advised would be replaced by installing a new
>> > computer.
>>
>> I'm trying to figure out how you got a 2000 Grand Cherokee with a
>> V6 engine.
>
> My bad. Typing while tired.

OK, I was wondering if you'd used the way back machine* to put a 2005/6
engine in your 2000 Jeep.


*If you don't know Mr. Peabody and his boy Sherman do a google search
on The Rocky and Bullwinkle Show.

Re: 2000 Grand Cherokee - New computer - P1685
 

"Ingram Developers" <michael.haskins@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mar 7, 4:14 pm, XS11E <xs11...@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote:
>> michael.hask...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > I have been having issues with my 2000 Grand Cherokee V6 that
>> > several shops advised would be replaced by installing a new
>> > computer.
>>
>> I'm trying to figure out how you got a 2000 Grand Cherokee with a
>> V6 engine.
>
> My bad. Typing while tired.

OK, I was wondering if you'd used the way back machine* to put a 2005/6
engine in your 2000 Jeep.


*If you don't know Mr. Peabody and his boy Sherman do a google search
on The Rocky and Bullwinkle Show.

Re: 2000 Grand Cherokee - New computer - P1685
 

"Ingram Developers" <michael.haskins@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mar 7, 4:14 pm, XS11E <xs11...@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote:
>> michael.hask...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > I have been having issues with my 2000 Grand Cherokee V6 that
>> > several shops advised would be replaced by installing a new
>> > computer.
>>
>> I'm trying to figure out how you got a 2000 Grand Cherokee with a
>> V6 engine.
>
> My bad. Typing while tired.

OK, I was wondering if you'd used the way back machine* to put a 2005/6
engine in your 2000 Jeep.


*If you don't know Mr. Peabody and his boy Sherman do a google search
on The Rocky and Bullwinkle Show.

Re: 2000 Grand Cherokee - New computer - P1685
 

you can now rent a drb3 scantool from d.c for 150.00 for 3 days and it can
come with the software needed to reprogam the pcm if needed but yopu can also
use it to reprogam the pcm with the correct skim pin number as long as u can
get it or have it

michael.haskins@gmail.com wrote:

> On Mar 6, 9:37 pm, "DougW" <post.repl...@invalid.address> wrote:
> > michael.haskins wrote:
> > > On Mar 6, 8:47 pm, "DougW" wrote:
> > >> michael.haskins wrote:
> > >>> Anyways, I bought a new computer from a salvage yard and just
> > >>> finished
> > >>> installing it. THe Jeep starts up great, but then dies out with a
> > >>> P1685 error. I know that that means SKIM error and that obviously
> > >>> the
> > >>> new computer doesn't recognize the key I use.
> > >>> The question I have now is, what next? Do I have to take it to the
> > >>> Jeep dealer to have the computer programmed? Or can I take it to my
> > >>> local guy that I trust?
> >
> > >> Not 100% on this. I believe it takes the dealership programmer to
> > >> reset the SKIM code.
> > > That sucks. The closest dealer (by far) to me wanted to charge $1200
> > > to replace the ECM in the first place which is why I went to a salvage
> > > yard. I wonder if they'll still try to charge me the full amount if I
> > > have my car towed in.
> >
> > From what I read, you should get a
> > P0513 Invalid SKIM Key
> > or
> > P0633 SKIM Key Not Programmed
> >
> > Sure you have every wire hooked back up with no bent pins?
> >
> > If there was no feed you would get
> > P1686 No SKIM BUS Messages Received
> >
> > Be Careful.. start it with the wrong key six times
> > and it will require a trip to the dealer.
> >
> > I wonder if you have a simple steel key (no skim)
> > AKA, a Valet key, you should be able to get to the dealer.
> > (I would call to confirm this)
> >
> > This might help.
> > -----------
> > 801505 - POWERTRAIN CONTROL MODULE INITIALIZATION
> >
> > Date: 03/02/05
> >
> > Model Year(s): 1999-2004
> >
> > Description: NOTE: The model years and vehicles above must
> > be equipped (optional) with Sentry Key Theft Deterrent
> > System (sales code GXX) for this bulletin to apply. When a
> > Powertrain Control Module (PCM) is replaced on vehicles
> > equipped with the Sentry KeyT Theft Deterrent System, it
> > must be initialized to properly function with the anti-theft
> > module. This is accomplished at a Chrysler Group Dealer by
> > using the DRBIII® or StarSCANT Scan Tool to enter a PIN number.
> >
> > When the PIN number is not available from the vehicle owner
> > or a Chrysler Group Scan Tool(s) is not available this can
> > be accomplished by writing the Vehicle Identification Number
> > (VIN) into the PCM using an after-market scan tool with a
> > "VIN Write Function". More information is available from
> > the scan tool manufacturer or the Equipment & Tool Institute.
> >
> > NOTE: After performing this procedure with an after-market
> > scan tool on vehicles equipped with Chrysler Group's Next
> > Generation Controller (NGC), Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC)
> > "P0633 - SKIM SECRET KEY DATA NOT STORED IN PCM" will be set.
> > This DTC will not effect vehicle or system performance and
> > cannot be erased.
> >
> > --
> > DougW- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Yeah, It's hooked up correctly. It would start, rev once, then
> stall. Yes, I'm sure I have the SKIM key, as last year we lost it for
> a few days and were going to have to fork out $300 to the dealer to
> have it replaced.
>
> I put the old PCM back in, and I'll take the new one to the dealer
> tomorrow to see if I can get it reprogrammed wihtout being raped by
> them. On second thought, I might go to the Jeep dealer in the rough
> part of town. The one closest to me is in a ritzy area and they seem
> to specialize in the old rip off.
>
> I really hate the fact that I can't do this myself.
>
> Thanks for the replys.

Re: 2000 Grand Cherokee - New computer - P1685
 

you can now rent a drb3 scantool from d.c for 150.00 for 3 days and it can
come with the software needed to reprogam the pcm if needed but yopu can also
use it to reprogam the pcm with the correct skim pin number as long as u can
get it or have it

michael.haskins@gmail.com wrote:

> On Mar 6, 9:37 pm, "DougW" <post.repl...@invalid.address> wrote:
> > michael.haskins wrote:
> > > On Mar 6, 8:47 pm, "DougW" wrote:
> > >> michael.haskins wrote:
> > >>> Anyways, I bought a new computer from a salvage yard and just
> > >>> finished
> > >>> installing it. THe Jeep starts up great, but then dies out with a
> > >>> P1685 error. I know that that means SKIM error and that obviously
> > >>> the
> > >>> new computer doesn't recognize the key I use.
> > >>> The question I have now is, what next? Do I have to take it to the
> > >>> Jeep dealer to have the computer programmed? Or can I take it to my
> > >>> local guy that I trust?
> >
> > >> Not 100% on this. I believe it takes the dealership programmer to
> > >> reset the SKIM code.
> > > That sucks. The closest dealer (by far) to me wanted to charge $1200
> > > to replace the ECM in the first place which is why I went to a salvage
> > > yard. I wonder if they'll still try to charge me the full amount if I
> > > have my car towed in.
> >
> > From what I read, you should get a
> > P0513 Invalid SKIM Key
> > or
> > P0633 SKIM Key Not Programmed
> >
> > Sure you have every wire hooked back up with no bent pins?
> >
> > If there was no feed you would get
> > P1686 No SKIM BUS Messages Received
> >
> > Be Careful.. start it with the wrong key six times
> > and it will require a trip to the dealer.
> >
> > I wonder if you have a simple steel key (no skim)
> > AKA, a Valet key, you should be able to get to the dealer.
> > (I would call to confirm this)
> >
> > This might help.
> > -----------
> > 801505 - POWERTRAIN CONTROL MODULE INITIALIZATION
> >
> > Date: 03/02/05
> >
> > Model Year(s): 1999-2004
> >
> > Description: NOTE: The model years and vehicles above must
> > be equipped (optional) with Sentry Key Theft Deterrent
> > System (sales code GXX) for this bulletin to apply. When a
> > Powertrain Control Module (PCM) is replaced on vehicles
> > equipped with the Sentry KeyT Theft Deterrent System, it
> > must be initialized to properly function with the anti-theft
> > module. This is accomplished at a Chrysler Group Dealer by
> > using the DRBIII® or StarSCANT Scan Tool to enter a PIN number.
> >
> > When the PIN number is not available from the vehicle owner
> > or a Chrysler Group Scan Tool(s) is not available this can
> > be accomplished by writing the Vehicle Identification Number
> > (VIN) into the PCM using an after-market scan tool with a
> > "VIN Write Function". More information is available from
> > the scan tool manufacturer or the Equipment & Tool Institute.
> >
> > NOTE: After performing this procedure with an after-market
> > scan tool on vehicles equipped with Chrysler Group's Next
> > Generation Controller (NGC), Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC)
> > "P0633 - SKIM SECRET KEY DATA NOT STORED IN PCM" will be set.
> > This DTC will not effect vehicle or system performance and
> > cannot be erased.
> >
> > --
> > DougW- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Yeah, It's hooked up correctly. It would start, rev once, then
> stall. Yes, I'm sure I have the SKIM key, as last year we lost it for
> a few days and were going to have to fork out $300 to the dealer to
> have it replaced.
>
> I put the old PCM back in, and I'll take the new one to the dealer
> tomorrow to see if I can get it reprogrammed wihtout being raped by
> them. On second thought, I might go to the Jeep dealer in the rough
> part of town. The one closest to me is in a ritzy area and they seem
> to specialize in the old rip off.
>
> I really hate the fact that I can't do this myself.
>
> Thanks for the replys.

Re: 2000 Grand Cherokee - New computer - P1685
 

you can now rent a drb3 scantool from d.c for 150.00 for 3 days and it can
come with the software needed to reprogam the pcm if needed but yopu can also
use it to reprogam the pcm with the correct skim pin number as long as u can
get it or have it

michael.haskins@gmail.com wrote:

> On Mar 6, 9:37 pm, "DougW" <post.repl...@invalid.address> wrote:
> > michael.haskins wrote:
> > > On Mar 6, 8:47 pm, "DougW" wrote:
> > >> michael.haskins wrote:
> > >>> Anyways, I bought a new computer from a salvage yard and just
> > >>> finished
> > >>> installing it. THe Jeep starts up great, but then dies out with a
> > >>> P1685 error. I know that that means SKIM error and that obviously
> > >>> the
> > >>> new computer doesn't recognize the key I use.
> > >>> The question I have now is, what next? Do I have to take it to the
> > >>> Jeep dealer to have the computer programmed? Or can I take it to my
> > >>> local guy that I trust?
> >
> > >> Not 100% on this. I believe it takes the dealership programmer to
> > >> reset the SKIM code.
> > > That sucks. The closest dealer (by far) to me wanted to charge $1200
> > > to replace the ECM in the first place which is why I went to a salvage
> > > yard. I wonder if they'll still try to charge me the full amount if I
> > > have my car towed in.
> >
> > From what I read, you should get a
> > P0513 Invalid SKIM Key
> > or
> > P0633 SKIM Key Not Programmed
> >
> > Sure you have every wire hooked back up with no bent pins?
> >
> > If there was no feed you would get
> > P1686 No SKIM BUS Messages Received
> >
> > Be Careful.. start it with the wrong key six times
> > and it will require a trip to the dealer.
> >
> > I wonder if you have a simple steel key (no skim)
> > AKA, a Valet key, you should be able to get to the dealer.
> > (I would call to confirm this)
> >
> > This might help.
> > -----------
> > 801505 - POWERTRAIN CONTROL MODULE INITIALIZATION
> >
> > Date: 03/02/05
> >
> > Model Year(s): 1999-2004
> >
> > Description: NOTE: The model years and vehicles above must
> > be equipped (optional) with Sentry Key Theft Deterrent
> > System (sales code GXX) for this bulletin to apply. When a
> > Powertrain Control Module (PCM) is replaced on vehicles
> > equipped with the Sentry KeyT Theft Deterrent System, it
> > must be initialized to properly function with the anti-theft
> > module. This is accomplished at a Chrysler Group Dealer by
> > using the DRBIII® or StarSCANT Scan Tool to enter a PIN number.
> >
> > When the PIN number is not available from the vehicle owner
> > or a Chrysler Group Scan Tool(s) is not available this can
> > be accomplished by writing the Vehicle Identification Number
> > (VIN) into the PCM using an after-market scan tool with a
> > "VIN Write Function". More information is available from
> > the scan tool manufacturer or the Equipment & Tool Institute.
> >
> > NOTE: After performing this procedure with an after-market
> > scan tool on vehicles equipped with Chrysler Group's Next
> > Generation Controller (NGC), Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC)
> > "P0633 - SKIM SECRET KEY DATA NOT STORED IN PCM" will be set.
> > This DTC will not effect vehicle or system performance and
> > cannot be erased.
> >
> > --
> > DougW- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Yeah, It's hooked up correctly. It would start, rev once, then
> stall. Yes, I'm sure I have the SKIM key, as last year we lost it for
> a few days and were going to have to fork out $300 to the dealer to
> have it replaced.
>
> I put the old PCM back in, and I'll take the new one to the dealer
> tomorrow to see if I can get it reprogrammed wihtout being raped by
> them. On second thought, I might go to the Jeep dealer in the rough
> part of town. The one closest to me is in a ritzy area and they seem
> to specialize in the old rip off.
>
> I really hate the fact that I can't do this myself.
>
> Thanks for the replys.

Re: 2000 Grand Cherokee - New computer - P1685
 

That's nice to know. Could be well worth it, to program the stock chip to an
aftermarket race specs.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
news:45F2BEAB.DC85361B@cac.net...
> you can now rent a drb3 scantool from d.c for 150.00 for 3 days and it can
> come with the software needed to reprogam the pcm if needed but yopu can
also
> use it to reprogam the pcm with the correct skim pin number as long as u
can
> get it or have it



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Re: 2000 Grand Cherokee - New computer - P1685
 

That's nice to know. Could be well worth it, to program the stock chip to an
aftermarket race specs.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
news:45F2BEAB.DC85361B@cac.net...
> you can now rent a drb3 scantool from d.c for 150.00 for 3 days and it can
> come with the software needed to reprogam the pcm if needed but yopu can
also
> use it to reprogam the pcm with the correct skim pin number as long as u
can
> get it or have it



--
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Re: 2000 Grand Cherokee - New computer - P1685
 

That's nice to know. Could be well worth it, to program the stock chip to an
aftermarket race specs.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
news:45F2BEAB.DC85361B@cac.net...
> you can now rent a drb3 scantool from d.c for 150.00 for 3 days and it can
> come with the software needed to reprogam the pcm if needed but yopu can
also
> use it to reprogam the pcm with the correct skim pin number as long as u
can
> get it or have it



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