Re: 1998 Grand 8 cyl 5.9
In message <1158322821.028781.232450@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups. com>, "Ed" wrote:
> >bllsht wrote: >> In message <1158268539.893721.123660@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups .com>, "Ed" wrote: >> >> >A few days ago I bought a '98 Grand Cherokee with 8Cyl 5.9 and now I >> >see that it might be necessary to use premium gas. Bad news but is it >> >true? >> >> The 5.9 came programmed to run premium, but can be reprogrammed to run on >> regular. > >Thanks to all who responded. I will use regular and see what happens >and the mention about reprogramming will take care of any problem. > Ed. Kelly It will ping if you run regular without reprogramming it. |
Re: 1998 Grand 8 cyl 5.9
In message <1158322821.028781.232450@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups. com>, "Ed" wrote:
> >bllsht wrote: >> In message <1158268539.893721.123660@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups .com>, "Ed" wrote: >> >> >A few days ago I bought a '98 Grand Cherokee with 8Cyl 5.9 and now I >> >see that it might be necessary to use premium gas. Bad news but is it >> >true? >> >> The 5.9 came programmed to run premium, but can be reprogrammed to run on >> regular. > >Thanks to all who responded. I will use regular and see what happens >and the mention about reprogramming will take care of any problem. > Ed. Kelly It will ping if you run regular without reprogramming it. |
Re: 1998 Grand 8 cyl 5.9
In message <1158322821.028781.232450@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups. com>, "Ed" wrote:
> >bllsht wrote: >> In message <1158268539.893721.123660@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups .com>, "Ed" wrote: >> >> >A few days ago I bought a '98 Grand Cherokee with 8Cyl 5.9 and now I >> >see that it might be necessary to use premium gas. Bad news but is it >> >true? >> >> The 5.9 came programmed to run premium, but can be reprogrammed to run on >> regular. > >Thanks to all who responded. I will use regular and see what happens >and the mention about reprogramming will take care of any problem. > Ed. Kelly It will ping if you run regular without reprogramming it. |
Re: 1998 Grand 8 cyl 5.9
In message <Xns984058AE91C8Fxs11eyahoocom@70.168.83.30>, "XS11E" wrote:
>"Doug" <nono@nono.com> wrote in >news:AfmdnVf8_57eqJbYnZ2dnUVZ_rqdnZ2d@comcast.com : > >> FWIW I was told that the computer can be programmed for lower >> octane gas. > >Correct, but as I said, it's a waste of time and money. The knock >sensor will do exactly the same thing, retard the spark with exactly >the same results, less performance and less gas mileage. Nice advice except for one small problem. The 5.9 doesn't have a knock sensor. It will happily ping it's self to death if you run regular without reprogramming it. > >It's probably cheaper to run premium. > >Some engines have low compression kits available for them, I'm not sure >the 5.9 is one of them. They may consist of low compression pistons or >different cylinder heads which are VERY costly and it would take years >to make up the cost in savings on gas price or there may be thicker >head gaskets available, still costly because of the labor involved but >much less than the other means of lowering compression... > >Again, it's cheaper to run premium and make sure your *next* vehicle >runs on regular. > >As for shocks, I have a lift mounted on the back of my Jeep to carry a >mobility scooter so I needed to get air adjustable rear shocks, that >very much limited my choice, I just got what was cheap. > > |
Re: 1998 Grand 8 cyl 5.9
In message <Xns984058AE91C8Fxs11eyahoocom@70.168.83.30>, "XS11E" wrote:
>"Doug" <nono@nono.com> wrote in >news:AfmdnVf8_57eqJbYnZ2dnUVZ_rqdnZ2d@comcast.com : > >> FWIW I was told that the computer can be programmed for lower >> octane gas. > >Correct, but as I said, it's a waste of time and money. The knock >sensor will do exactly the same thing, retard the spark with exactly >the same results, less performance and less gas mileage. Nice advice except for one small problem. The 5.9 doesn't have a knock sensor. It will happily ping it's self to death if you run regular without reprogramming it. > >It's probably cheaper to run premium. > >Some engines have low compression kits available for them, I'm not sure >the 5.9 is one of them. They may consist of low compression pistons or >different cylinder heads which are VERY costly and it would take years >to make up the cost in savings on gas price or there may be thicker >head gaskets available, still costly because of the labor involved but >much less than the other means of lowering compression... > >Again, it's cheaper to run premium and make sure your *next* vehicle >runs on regular. > >As for shocks, I have a lift mounted on the back of my Jeep to carry a >mobility scooter so I needed to get air adjustable rear shocks, that >very much limited my choice, I just got what was cheap. > > |
Re: 1998 Grand 8 cyl 5.9
In message <Xns984058AE91C8Fxs11eyahoocom@70.168.83.30>, "XS11E" wrote:
>"Doug" <nono@nono.com> wrote in >news:AfmdnVf8_57eqJbYnZ2dnUVZ_rqdnZ2d@comcast.com : > >> FWIW I was told that the computer can be programmed for lower >> octane gas. > >Correct, but as I said, it's a waste of time and money. The knock >sensor will do exactly the same thing, retard the spark with exactly >the same results, less performance and less gas mileage. Nice advice except for one small problem. The 5.9 doesn't have a knock sensor. It will happily ping it's self to death if you run regular without reprogramming it. > >It's probably cheaper to run premium. > >Some engines have low compression kits available for them, I'm not sure >the 5.9 is one of them. They may consist of low compression pistons or >different cylinder heads which are VERY costly and it would take years >to make up the cost in savings on gas price or there may be thicker >head gaskets available, still costly because of the labor involved but >much less than the other means of lowering compression... > >Again, it's cheaper to run premium and make sure your *next* vehicle >runs on regular. > >As for shocks, I have a lift mounted on the back of my Jeep to carry a >mobility scooter so I needed to get air adjustable rear shocks, that >very much limited my choice, I just got what was cheap. > > |
Re: 1998 Grand 8 cyl 5.9
http://www.ultralightnews.com/hirth/readingpistons.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Ed wrote: > > A few days ago I bought a '98 Grand Cherokee with 8Cyl 5.9 and now I > see that it might be necessary to use premium gas. Bad news but is it > true? |
Re: 1998 Grand 8 cyl 5.9
http://www.ultralightnews.com/hirth/readingpistons.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Ed wrote: > > A few days ago I bought a '98 Grand Cherokee with 8Cyl 5.9 and now I > see that it might be necessary to use premium gas. Bad news but is it > true? |
Re: 1998 Grand 8 cyl 5.9
http://www.ultralightnews.com/hirth/readingpistons.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Ed wrote: > > A few days ago I bought a '98 Grand Cherokee with 8Cyl 5.9 and now I > see that it might be necessary to use premium gas. Bad news but is it > true? |
Re: 1998 Grand 8 cyl 5.9
bllsht <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in
news:63lpg2tj8rvrhugo8s9sbh6mjsptffp0ja@4ax.com: > In message <Xns984058AE91C8Fxs11eyahoocom@70.168.83.30>, "XS11E" > wrote: > >>"Doug" <nono@nono.com> wrote in >>news:AfmdnVf8_57eqJbYnZ2dnUVZ_rqdnZ2d@comcast.co m: >> >>> FWIW I was told that the computer can be programmed for lower >>> octane gas. >> >>Correct, but as I said, it's a waste of time and money. The knock >>sensor will do exactly the same thing, retard the spark with >>exactly the same results, less performance and less gas mileage. > > Nice advice except for one small problem. The 5.9 doesn't have a > knock sensor. It will happily ping it's self to death if you run > regular without reprogramming it. No knock sensor? Is it fuel injected? |
Re: 1998 Grand 8 cyl 5.9
bllsht <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in
news:63lpg2tj8rvrhugo8s9sbh6mjsptffp0ja@4ax.com: > In message <Xns984058AE91C8Fxs11eyahoocom@70.168.83.30>, "XS11E" > wrote: > >>"Doug" <nono@nono.com> wrote in >>news:AfmdnVf8_57eqJbYnZ2dnUVZ_rqdnZ2d@comcast.co m: >> >>> FWIW I was told that the computer can be programmed for lower >>> octane gas. >> >>Correct, but as I said, it's a waste of time and money. The knock >>sensor will do exactly the same thing, retard the spark with >>exactly the same results, less performance and less gas mileage. > > Nice advice except for one small problem. The 5.9 doesn't have a > knock sensor. It will happily ping it's self to death if you run > regular without reprogramming it. No knock sensor? Is it fuel injected? |
Re: 1998 Grand 8 cyl 5.9
bllsht <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in
news:63lpg2tj8rvrhugo8s9sbh6mjsptffp0ja@4ax.com: > In message <Xns984058AE91C8Fxs11eyahoocom@70.168.83.30>, "XS11E" > wrote: > >>"Doug" <nono@nono.com> wrote in >>news:AfmdnVf8_57eqJbYnZ2dnUVZ_rqdnZ2d@comcast.co m: >> >>> FWIW I was told that the computer can be programmed for lower >>> octane gas. >> >>Correct, but as I said, it's a waste of time and money. The knock >>sensor will do exactly the same thing, retard the spark with >>exactly the same results, less performance and less gas mileage. > > Nice advice except for one small problem. The 5.9 doesn't have a > knock sensor. It will happily ping it's self to death if you run > regular without reprogramming it. No knock sensor? Is it fuel injected? |
Re: 1998 Grand 8 cyl 5.9
yes it is you have a rt engine that is also in the dakota truck
Ed wrote: > A few days ago I bought a '98 Grand Cherokee with 8Cyl 5.9 and now I > see that it might be necessary to use premium gas. Bad news but is it > true? |
Re: 1998 Grand 8 cyl 5.9
yes it is you have a rt engine that is also in the dakota truck
Ed wrote: > A few days ago I bought a '98 Grand Cherokee with 8Cyl 5.9 and now I > see that it might be necessary to use premium gas. Bad news but is it > true? |
Re: 1998 Grand 8 cyl 5.9
yes it is you have a rt engine that is also in the dakota truck
Ed wrote: > A few days ago I bought a '98 Grand Cherokee with 8Cyl 5.9 and now I > see that it might be necessary to use premium gas. Bad news but is it > true? |
Re: 1998 Grand 8 cyl 5.9
u reprogam that controler and you will lose the timing curve that goes with the
higherflow heads not to mention the detonation that takes place Ed wrote: > bllsht wrote: > > In message <1158268539.893721.123660@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups .com>, "Ed" wrote: > > > > >A few days ago I bought a '98 Grand Cherokee with 8Cyl 5.9 and now I > > >see that it might be necessary to use premium gas. Bad news but is it > > >true? > > > > The 5.9 came programmed to run premium, but can be reprogrammed to run on > > regular. > > Thanks to all who responded. I will use regular and see what happens > and the mention about reprogramming will take care of any problem. > Ed. Kelly |
Re: 1998 Grand 8 cyl 5.9
u reprogam that controler and you will lose the timing curve that goes with the
higherflow heads not to mention the detonation that takes place Ed wrote: > bllsht wrote: > > In message <1158268539.893721.123660@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups .com>, "Ed" wrote: > > > > >A few days ago I bought a '98 Grand Cherokee with 8Cyl 5.9 and now I > > >see that it might be necessary to use premium gas. Bad news but is it > > >true? > > > > The 5.9 came programmed to run premium, but can be reprogrammed to run on > > regular. > > Thanks to all who responded. I will use regular and see what happens > and the mention about reprogramming will take care of any problem. > Ed. Kelly |
Re: 1998 Grand 8 cyl 5.9
u reprogam that controler and you will lose the timing curve that goes with the
higherflow heads not to mention the detonation that takes place Ed wrote: > bllsht wrote: > > In message <1158268539.893721.123660@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups .com>, "Ed" wrote: > > > > >A few days ago I bought a '98 Grand Cherokee with 8Cyl 5.9 and now I > > >see that it might be necessary to use premium gas. Bad news but is it > > >true? > > > > The 5.9 came programmed to run premium, but can be reprogrammed to run on > > regular. > > Thanks to all who responded. I will use regular and see what happens > and the mention about reprogramming will take care of any problem. > Ed. Kelly |
Re: 1998 Grand 8 cyl 5.9
On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 07:42:41 -0700, XS11E <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com>
wrote: >bllsht <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in >news:63lpg2tj8rvrhugo8s9sbh6mjsptffp0ja@4ax.com : > >> In message <Xns984058AE91C8Fxs11eyahoocom@70.168.83.30>, "XS11E" >> wrote: >> >>>"Doug" <nono@nono.com> wrote in >>>news:AfmdnVf8_57eqJbYnZ2dnUVZ_rqdnZ2d@comcast.c om: >>> >>>> FWIW I was told that the computer can be programmed for lower >>>> octane gas. >>> >>>Correct, but as I said, it's a waste of time and money. The knock >>>sensor will do exactly the same thing, retard the spark with >>>exactly the same results, less performance and less gas mileage. >> >> Nice advice except for one small problem. The 5.9 doesn't have a >> knock sensor. It will happily ping it's self to death if you run >> regular without reprogramming it. > >No knock sensor? Is it fuel injected? No knock sensor. Yes, it is injected. |
Re: 1998 Grand 8 cyl 5.9
On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 07:42:41 -0700, XS11E <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com>
wrote: >bllsht <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in >news:63lpg2tj8rvrhugo8s9sbh6mjsptffp0ja@4ax.com : > >> In message <Xns984058AE91C8Fxs11eyahoocom@70.168.83.30>, "XS11E" >> wrote: >> >>>"Doug" <nono@nono.com> wrote in >>>news:AfmdnVf8_57eqJbYnZ2dnUVZ_rqdnZ2d@comcast.c om: >>> >>>> FWIW I was told that the computer can be programmed for lower >>>> octane gas. >>> >>>Correct, but as I said, it's a waste of time and money. The knock >>>sensor will do exactly the same thing, retard the spark with >>>exactly the same results, less performance and less gas mileage. >> >> Nice advice except for one small problem. The 5.9 doesn't have a >> knock sensor. It will happily ping it's self to death if you run >> regular without reprogramming it. > >No knock sensor? Is it fuel injected? No knock sensor. Yes, it is injected. |
Re: 1998 Grand 8 cyl 5.9
On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 07:42:41 -0700, XS11E <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com>
wrote: >bllsht <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in >news:63lpg2tj8rvrhugo8s9sbh6mjsptffp0ja@4ax.com : > >> In message <Xns984058AE91C8Fxs11eyahoocom@70.168.83.30>, "XS11E" >> wrote: >> >>>"Doug" <nono@nono.com> wrote in >>>news:AfmdnVf8_57eqJbYnZ2dnUVZ_rqdnZ2d@comcast.c om: >>> >>>> FWIW I was told that the computer can be programmed for lower >>>> octane gas. >>> >>>Correct, but as I said, it's a waste of time and money. The knock >>>sensor will do exactly the same thing, retard the spark with >>>exactly the same results, less performance and less gas mileage. >> >> Nice advice except for one small problem. The 5.9 doesn't have a >> knock sensor. It will happily ping it's self to death if you run >> regular without reprogramming it. > >No knock sensor? Is it fuel injected? No knock sensor. Yes, it is injected. |
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