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Mike R 03-18-2005 09:31 PM

1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee shudders while turning
 
I own a 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo with 120k miles on it. It is a 4.0
liter with select track.

Lately I have been experiancing a shudder while turning in two wheel drive.
At first I thought it was s front alignment problem becasue it looked like
one of the front tires (left front) might have been wearing on the inside a
little but that seem to check out OK. The harder the turn, the worse the
shudder. Its almost like it is not in two wheel drive. Its not real bad
yet.

Another problem which might be related is that I hear (not really feel) a
vibration between 55 and 65 mph. The only way to describe it is that there
are two tones that are not quite the same and you can hear the difference.
(beat freq)

I dont recall when the noise started but I replaced the tires (Bridgstones)
about 13k miles ago. I put the same tires on but went up a size 225 to 235.

I'm starting to wonder now if it is a vicous coupler problem.

Anyone else experiance a problem like this?

Any help or guidance would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Mike



mic canic 03-19-2005 09:00 AM

Re: 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee shudders while turning
 
it will be a coupler issue if you did not put 4 tires on it and only replaced 2


Mike R wrote:

> I own a 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo with 120k miles on it. It is a 4.0
> liter with select track.
>
> Lately I have been experiancing a shudder while turning in two wheel drive.
> At first I thought it was s front alignment problem becasue it looked like
> one of the front tires (left front) might have been wearing on the inside a
> little but that seem to check out OK. The harder the turn, the worse the
> shudder. Its almost like it is not in two wheel drive. Its not real bad
> yet.
>
> Another problem which might be related is that I hear (not really feel) a
> vibration between 55 and 65 mph. The only way to describe it is that there
> are two tones that are not quite the same and you can hear the difference.
> (beat freq)
>
> I dont recall when the noise started but I replaced the tires (Bridgstones)
> about 13k miles ago. I put the same tires on but went up a size 225 to 235.
>
> I'm starting to wonder now if it is a vicous coupler problem.
>
> Anyone else experiance a problem like this?
>
> Any help or guidance would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
> Mike



mic canic 03-19-2005 09:00 AM

Re: 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee shudders while turning
 
it will be a coupler issue if you did not put 4 tires on it and only replaced 2


Mike R wrote:

> I own a 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo with 120k miles on it. It is a 4.0
> liter with select track.
>
> Lately I have been experiancing a shudder while turning in two wheel drive.
> At first I thought it was s front alignment problem becasue it looked like
> one of the front tires (left front) might have been wearing on the inside a
> little but that seem to check out OK. The harder the turn, the worse the
> shudder. Its almost like it is not in two wheel drive. Its not real bad
> yet.
>
> Another problem which might be related is that I hear (not really feel) a
> vibration between 55 and 65 mph. The only way to describe it is that there
> are two tones that are not quite the same and you can hear the difference.
> (beat freq)
>
> I dont recall when the noise started but I replaced the tires (Bridgstones)
> about 13k miles ago. I put the same tires on but went up a size 225 to 235.
>
> I'm starting to wonder now if it is a vicous coupler problem.
>
> Anyone else experiance a problem like this?
>
> Any help or guidance would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
> Mike



mic canic 03-19-2005 09:00 AM

Re: 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee shudders while turning
 
it will be a coupler issue if you did not put 4 tires on it and only replaced 2


Mike R wrote:

> I own a 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo with 120k miles on it. It is a 4.0
> liter with select track.
>
> Lately I have been experiancing a shudder while turning in two wheel drive.
> At first I thought it was s front alignment problem becasue it looked like
> one of the front tires (left front) might have been wearing on the inside a
> little but that seem to check out OK. The harder the turn, the worse the
> shudder. Its almost like it is not in two wheel drive. Its not real bad
> yet.
>
> Another problem which might be related is that I hear (not really feel) a
> vibration between 55 and 65 mph. The only way to describe it is that there
> are two tones that are not quite the same and you can hear the difference.
> (beat freq)
>
> I dont recall when the noise started but I replaced the tires (Bridgstones)
> about 13k miles ago. I put the same tires on but went up a size 225 to 235.
>
> I'm starting to wonder now if it is a vicous coupler problem.
>
> Anyone else experiance a problem like this?
>
> Any help or guidance would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
> Mike



Mike R 03-19-2005 09:16 AM

Re: 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee shudders while turning
 
All four tires were replaced.

If it is a viscous coupler, does it have to be replaced?


Thanks
Mike


"mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
news:423C3089.585EC57@cac.net...
> it will be a coupler issue if you did not put 4 tires on it and only

replaced 2
>
>
> Mike R wrote:
>
> > I own a 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo with 120k miles on it. It is a

4.0
> > liter with select track.
> >
> > Lately I have been experiancing a shudder while turning in two wheel

drive.
> > At first I thought it was s front alignment problem becasue it looked

like
> > one of the front tires (left front) might have been wearing on the

inside a
> > little but that seem to check out OK. The harder the turn, the worse

the
> > shudder. Its almost like it is not in two wheel drive. Its not real

bad
> > yet.
> >
> > Another problem which might be related is that I hear (not really feel)

a
> > vibration between 55 and 65 mph. The only way to describe it is that

there
> > are two tones that are not quite the same and you can hear the

difference.
> > (beat freq)
> >
> > I dont recall when the noise started but I replaced the tires

(Bridgstones)
> > about 13k miles ago. I put the same tires on but went up a size 225 to

235.
> >
> > I'm starting to wonder now if it is a vicous coupler problem.
> >
> > Anyone else experiance a problem like this?
> >
> > Any help or guidance would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Mike

>




Mike R 03-19-2005 09:16 AM

Re: 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee shudders while turning
 
All four tires were replaced.

If it is a viscous coupler, does it have to be replaced?


Thanks
Mike


"mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
news:423C3089.585EC57@cac.net...
> it will be a coupler issue if you did not put 4 tires on it and only

replaced 2
>
>
> Mike R wrote:
>
> > I own a 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo with 120k miles on it. It is a

4.0
> > liter with select track.
> >
> > Lately I have been experiancing a shudder while turning in two wheel

drive.
> > At first I thought it was s front alignment problem becasue it looked

like
> > one of the front tires (left front) might have been wearing on the

inside a
> > little but that seem to check out OK. The harder the turn, the worse

the
> > shudder. Its almost like it is not in two wheel drive. Its not real

bad
> > yet.
> >
> > Another problem which might be related is that I hear (not really feel)

a
> > vibration between 55 and 65 mph. The only way to describe it is that

there
> > are two tones that are not quite the same and you can hear the

difference.
> > (beat freq)
> >
> > I dont recall when the noise started but I replaced the tires

(Bridgstones)
> > about 13k miles ago. I put the same tires on but went up a size 225 to

235.
> >
> > I'm starting to wonder now if it is a vicous coupler problem.
> >
> > Anyone else experiance a problem like this?
> >
> > Any help or guidance would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Mike

>




Mike R 03-19-2005 09:16 AM

Re: 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee shudders while turning
 
All four tires were replaced.

If it is a viscous coupler, does it have to be replaced?


Thanks
Mike


"mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
news:423C3089.585EC57@cac.net...
> it will be a coupler issue if you did not put 4 tires on it and only

replaced 2
>
>
> Mike R wrote:
>
> > I own a 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo with 120k miles on it. It is a

4.0
> > liter with select track.
> >
> > Lately I have been experiancing a shudder while turning in two wheel

drive.
> > At first I thought it was s front alignment problem becasue it looked

like
> > one of the front tires (left front) might have been wearing on the

inside a
> > little but that seem to check out OK. The harder the turn, the worse

the
> > shudder. Its almost like it is not in two wheel drive. Its not real

bad
> > yet.
> >
> > Another problem which might be related is that I hear (not really feel)

a
> > vibration between 55 and 65 mph. The only way to describe it is that

there
> > are two tones that are not quite the same and you can hear the

difference.
> > (beat freq)
> >
> > I dont recall when the noise started but I replaced the tires

(Bridgstones)
> > about 13k miles ago. I put the same tires on but went up a size 225 to

235.
> >
> > I'm starting to wonder now if it is a vicous coupler problem.
> >
> > Anyone else experiance a problem like this?
> >
> > Any help or guidance would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Mike

>




Mike Romain 03-19-2005 09:22 AM

Re: 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee shudders while turning
 
Did your last set of tires actually have an uneven wear pattern?

If so I would take it to a good alignment shop.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Mike R wrote:
>
> All four tires were replaced.
>
> If it is a viscous coupler, does it have to be replaced?
>
> Thanks
> Mike
>
> "mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> news:423C3089.585EC57@cac.net...
> > it will be a coupler issue if you did not put 4 tires on it and only

> replaced 2
> >
> >
> > Mike R wrote:
> >
> > > I own a 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo with 120k miles on it. It is a

> 4.0
> > > liter with select track.
> > >
> > > Lately I have been experiancing a shudder while turning in two wheel

> drive.
> > > At first I thought it was s front alignment problem becasue it looked

> like
> > > one of the front tires (left front) might have been wearing on the

> inside a
> > > little but that seem to check out OK. The harder the turn, the worse

> the
> > > shudder. Its almost like it is not in two wheel drive. Its not real

> bad
> > > yet.
> > >
> > > Another problem which might be related is that I hear (not really feel)

> a
> > > vibration between 55 and 65 mph. The only way to describe it is that

> there
> > > are two tones that are not quite the same and you can hear the

> difference.
> > > (beat freq)
> > >
> > > I dont recall when the noise started but I replaced the tires

> (Bridgstones)
> > > about 13k miles ago. I put the same tires on but went up a size 225 to

> 235.
> > >
> > > I'm starting to wonder now if it is a vicous coupler problem.
> > >
> > > Anyone else experiance a problem like this?
> > >
> > > Any help or guidance would be greatly appreciated.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Mike

> >


Mike Romain 03-19-2005 09:22 AM

Re: 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee shudders while turning
 
Did your last set of tires actually have an uneven wear pattern?

If so I would take it to a good alignment shop.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Mike R wrote:
>
> All four tires were replaced.
>
> If it is a viscous coupler, does it have to be replaced?
>
> Thanks
> Mike
>
> "mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> news:423C3089.585EC57@cac.net...
> > it will be a coupler issue if you did not put 4 tires on it and only

> replaced 2
> >
> >
> > Mike R wrote:
> >
> > > I own a 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo with 120k miles on it. It is a

> 4.0
> > > liter with select track.
> > >
> > > Lately I have been experiancing a shudder while turning in two wheel

> drive.
> > > At first I thought it was s front alignment problem becasue it looked

> like
> > > one of the front tires (left front) might have been wearing on the

> inside a
> > > little but that seem to check out OK. The harder the turn, the worse

> the
> > > shudder. Its almost like it is not in two wheel drive. Its not real

> bad
> > > yet.
> > >
> > > Another problem which might be related is that I hear (not really feel)

> a
> > > vibration between 55 and 65 mph. The only way to describe it is that

> there
> > > are two tones that are not quite the same and you can hear the

> difference.
> > > (beat freq)
> > >
> > > I dont recall when the noise started but I replaced the tires

> (Bridgstones)
> > > about 13k miles ago. I put the same tires on but went up a size 225 to

> 235.
> > >
> > > I'm starting to wonder now if it is a vicous coupler problem.
> > >
> > > Anyone else experiance a problem like this?
> > >
> > > Any help or guidance would be greatly appreciated.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Mike

> >


Mike Romain 03-19-2005 09:22 AM

Re: 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee shudders while turning
 
Did your last set of tires actually have an uneven wear pattern?

If so I would take it to a good alignment shop.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Mike R wrote:
>
> All four tires were replaced.
>
> If it is a viscous coupler, does it have to be replaced?
>
> Thanks
> Mike
>
> "mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> news:423C3089.585EC57@cac.net...
> > it will be a coupler issue if you did not put 4 tires on it and only

> replaced 2
> >
> >
> > Mike R wrote:
> >
> > > I own a 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo with 120k miles on it. It is a

> 4.0
> > > liter with select track.
> > >
> > > Lately I have been experiancing a shudder while turning in two wheel

> drive.
> > > At first I thought it was s front alignment problem becasue it looked

> like
> > > one of the front tires (left front) might have been wearing on the

> inside a
> > > little but that seem to check out OK. The harder the turn, the worse

> the
> > > shudder. Its almost like it is not in two wheel drive. Its not real

> bad
> > > yet.
> > >
> > > Another problem which might be related is that I hear (not really feel)

> a
> > > vibration between 55 and 65 mph. The only way to describe it is that

> there
> > > are two tones that are not quite the same and you can hear the

> difference.
> > > (beat freq)
> > >
> > > I dont recall when the noise started but I replaced the tires

> (Bridgstones)
> > > about 13k miles ago. I put the same tires on but went up a size 225 to

> 235.
> > >
> > > I'm starting to wonder now if it is a vicous coupler problem.
> > >
> > > Anyone else experiance a problem like this?
> > >
> > > Any help or guidance would be greatly appreciated.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Mike

> >



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