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dsm 07-12-2004 01:07 PM

Re: 1994 Cherokee stalling
 
Outstanding error code link, thanks Bill.

L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:<40EEF60E.5EFF854@cox.net>...
> Code 11: http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/fault/code11.html Code
> 12: http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/fault/code12.html A bad connection
> or rare, but it's happen to a few here the computer gave up.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> themophead wrote:
> >
> > I know this questions has been asked in here before, but I've run out
> > of ideas. I have a '94 Jeep Cherokee with a 4.0 engine. It's got
> > 151,000 miles and its stalling at random times. Mostly when just
> > driving along on the highway.
> >
> > Here is a list of things I've already done ...
> >
> > 1. Replaced the crank sensor
> > 2. Replaced the MAP sensor
> > 3. Replaced the computer
> > 4. Cleaned throttle body, Idle Air Controller, crank sensor connector
> > 5. Bypassed wiring harness from computer to crank sensor
> > 6. Replaced the fuel pump and fuel filter
> > 7. checked ground wire from block to firewall
> > 8. checked ground from battery
> >
> > The computer is still showing codes 11 and 12 when it stalls. If
> > anyone has any suggestions I would really appreciate it. Thanks.
> >
> > Rob


themophead 07-12-2004 01:08 PM

Re: 1994 Cherokee stalling
 
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message news:<l5lIc.46538$Lh.25620@okepread01>...

> 11 = No crank reference signal detected during engine cranking.
> Intermittent loss of either camshaft or crankshaft position sensor.
> CKP sensor target windows have too much variation.
>
> 12 = possible loose battery terminal, connection, or the battery
> has been disconnected within the last fifty engine starts.
>
> that leaves the camshaft position sensor in the distributor
> or its connector.
>
> Checked the distributor for oil/crud?
> http://members.cox.net/wilsond/distributor/


After reading the message from MadDog, I took off the distributor cap
and cleaned the contacts and the button. I also checked the connector
and cleaned that up. It seems to be running a bit better but it's
still stalling. I was stalling every 500 feet or so, and after I did
that I was able to drive about 100 miles in the last 2 days without a
stall. I will look into getting a new/used ignition module. Thanks so
much for your help.

Rob

themophead 07-12-2004 01:08 PM

Re: 1994 Cherokee stalling
 
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message news:<l5lIc.46538$Lh.25620@okepread01>...

> 11 = No crank reference signal detected during engine cranking.
> Intermittent loss of either camshaft or crankshaft position sensor.
> CKP sensor target windows have too much variation.
>
> 12 = possible loose battery terminal, connection, or the battery
> has been disconnected within the last fifty engine starts.
>
> that leaves the camshaft position sensor in the distributor
> or its connector.
>
> Checked the distributor for oil/crud?
> http://members.cox.net/wilsond/distributor/


After reading the message from MadDog, I took off the distributor cap
and cleaned the contacts and the button. I also checked the connector
and cleaned that up. It seems to be running a bit better but it's
still stalling. I was stalling every 500 feet or so, and after I did
that I was able to drive about 100 miles in the last 2 days without a
stall. I will look into getting a new/used ignition module. Thanks so
much for your help.

Rob

themophead 07-12-2004 01:08 PM

Re: 1994 Cherokee stalling
 
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message news:<l5lIc.46538$Lh.25620@okepread01>...

> 11 = No crank reference signal detected during engine cranking.
> Intermittent loss of either camshaft or crankshaft position sensor.
> CKP sensor target windows have too much variation.
>
> 12 = possible loose battery terminal, connection, or the battery
> has been disconnected within the last fifty engine starts.
>
> that leaves the camshaft position sensor in the distributor
> or its connector.
>
> Checked the distributor for oil/crud?
> http://members.cox.net/wilsond/distributor/


After reading the message from MadDog, I took off the distributor cap
and cleaned the contacts and the button. I also checked the connector
and cleaned that up. It seems to be running a bit better but it's
still stalling. I was stalling every 500 feet or so, and after I did
that I was able to drive about 100 miles in the last 2 days without a
stall. I will look into getting a new/used ignition module. Thanks so
much for your help.

Rob

themophead 07-12-2004 01:08 PM

Re: 1994 Cherokee stalling
 
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message news:<l5lIc.46538$Lh.25620@okepread01>...

> 11 = No crank reference signal detected during engine cranking.
> Intermittent loss of either camshaft or crankshaft position sensor.
> CKP sensor target windows have too much variation.
>
> 12 = possible loose battery terminal, connection, or the battery
> has been disconnected within the last fifty engine starts.
>
> that leaves the camshaft position sensor in the distributor
> or its connector.
>
> Checked the distributor for oil/crud?
> http://members.cox.net/wilsond/distributor/


After reading the message from MadDog, I took off the distributor cap
and cleaned the contacts and the button. I also checked the connector
and cleaned that up. It seems to be running a bit better but it's
still stalling. I was stalling every 500 feet or so, and after I did
that I was able to drive about 100 miles in the last 2 days without a
stall. I will look into getting a new/used ignition module. Thanks so
much for your help.

Rob

themophead 07-16-2004 02:07 PM

Re: 1994 Cherokee stalling
 
themophead@hotmail.com (themophead) wrote in message news:<e73cb4b4.0407091131.324f1f1d@posting.google. com>...
> I know this questions has been asked in here before, but I've run out
> of ideas. I have a '94 Jeep Cherokee with a 4.0 engine. It's got
> 151,000 miles and its stalling at random times. Mostly when just
> driving along on the highway.
>
> Here is a list of things I've already done ...
>
> 1. Replaced the crank sensor
> 2. Replaced the MAP sensor
> 3. Replaced the computer
> 4. Cleaned throttle body, Idle Air Controller, crank sensor connector
> 5. Bypassed wiring harness from computer to crank sensor
> 6. Replaced the fuel pump and fuel filter
> 7. checked ground wire from block to firewall
> 8. checked ground from battery
>
> The computer is still showing codes 11 and 12 when it stalls. If
> anyone has any suggestions I would really appreciate it. Thanks.
>
> Rob



I don't want to speak to soon, but I think I may have figured out the
problem. It seems that it was either the fuel pump relay or the Auto
Shutdown relay that was the problem. I wish the dealer would have
thought of that before I bought a new computer. Either way though, it
seems to be working. Thanks for your help guys.

Rob

themophead 07-16-2004 02:07 PM

Re: 1994 Cherokee stalling
 
themophead@hotmail.com (themophead) wrote in message news:<e73cb4b4.0407091131.324f1f1d@posting.google. com>...
> I know this questions has been asked in here before, but I've run out
> of ideas. I have a '94 Jeep Cherokee with a 4.0 engine. It's got
> 151,000 miles and its stalling at random times. Mostly when just
> driving along on the highway.
>
> Here is a list of things I've already done ...
>
> 1. Replaced the crank sensor
> 2. Replaced the MAP sensor
> 3. Replaced the computer
> 4. Cleaned throttle body, Idle Air Controller, crank sensor connector
> 5. Bypassed wiring harness from computer to crank sensor
> 6. Replaced the fuel pump and fuel filter
> 7. checked ground wire from block to firewall
> 8. checked ground from battery
>
> The computer is still showing codes 11 and 12 when it stalls. If
> anyone has any suggestions I would really appreciate it. Thanks.
>
> Rob



I don't want to speak to soon, but I think I may have figured out the
problem. It seems that it was either the fuel pump relay or the Auto
Shutdown relay that was the problem. I wish the dealer would have
thought of that before I bought a new computer. Either way though, it
seems to be working. Thanks for your help guys.

Rob

themophead 07-16-2004 02:07 PM

Re: 1994 Cherokee stalling
 
themophead@hotmail.com (themophead) wrote in message news:<e73cb4b4.0407091131.324f1f1d@posting.google. com>...
> I know this questions has been asked in here before, but I've run out
> of ideas. I have a '94 Jeep Cherokee with a 4.0 engine. It's got
> 151,000 miles and its stalling at random times. Mostly when just
> driving along on the highway.
>
> Here is a list of things I've already done ...
>
> 1. Replaced the crank sensor
> 2. Replaced the MAP sensor
> 3. Replaced the computer
> 4. Cleaned throttle body, Idle Air Controller, crank sensor connector
> 5. Bypassed wiring harness from computer to crank sensor
> 6. Replaced the fuel pump and fuel filter
> 7. checked ground wire from block to firewall
> 8. checked ground from battery
>
> The computer is still showing codes 11 and 12 when it stalls. If
> anyone has any suggestions I would really appreciate it. Thanks.
>
> Rob



I don't want to speak to soon, but I think I may have figured out the
problem. It seems that it was either the fuel pump relay or the Auto
Shutdown relay that was the problem. I wish the dealer would have
thought of that before I bought a new computer. Either way though, it
seems to be working. Thanks for your help guys.

Rob

themophead 07-16-2004 02:07 PM

Re: 1994 Cherokee stalling
 
themophead@hotmail.com (themophead) wrote in message news:<e73cb4b4.0407091131.324f1f1d@posting.google. com>...
> I know this questions has been asked in here before, but I've run out
> of ideas. I have a '94 Jeep Cherokee with a 4.0 engine. It's got
> 151,000 miles and its stalling at random times. Mostly when just
> driving along on the highway.
>
> Here is a list of things I've already done ...
>
> 1. Replaced the crank sensor
> 2. Replaced the MAP sensor
> 3. Replaced the computer
> 4. Cleaned throttle body, Idle Air Controller, crank sensor connector
> 5. Bypassed wiring harness from computer to crank sensor
> 6. Replaced the fuel pump and fuel filter
> 7. checked ground wire from block to firewall
> 8. checked ground from battery
>
> The computer is still showing codes 11 and 12 when it stalls. If
> anyone has any suggestions I would really appreciate it. Thanks.
>
> Rob



I don't want to speak to soon, but I think I may have figured out the
problem. It seems that it was either the fuel pump relay or the Auto
Shutdown relay that was the problem. I wish the dealer would have
thought of that before I bought a new computer. Either way though, it
seems to be working. Thanks for your help guys.

Rob


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