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OctaviousMonk@optonline.net 04-10-2006 01:01 AM

1990 wrangler V8 swap question
 
I have a 90 Sahara witha 4.2L engine that has just died on me. I am
planning on doing a motor swap soon and I was looking for a 4.0L. Today
however I got the option of picking up a 95 Grand Cherokee Laredo with
the V8 and only 75k that was hit in the rear for only $500. I have done
a ton of research and have all the info I need for the 4.0L swap, but I
haven't been able to find much on this type of swap. Is it any more
dificult then the 4.0 swap, what type of money am I loking at, or is it
even worth it to do in the first place?
Any info, sugestions, opinions or even a finger pointed in the right
direction would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Randy


Earle Horton 04-10-2006 09:39 AM

Re: 1990 wrangler V8 swap question
 
The 1995 V8 is a Dodge Truck Magnum V8, from a totally different line from
the 4.2L and the 4.0L engines. In principle, you could take the engine,
transmission, and transfer case from the GC, and drop the whole mess into
the Sahara. Hook up the drive shafts, exhaust pipes, electricals, etc. and
you are done. However it is likely that no one, in the history of Jeeps,
has done this before. Certainly no one has posted the results on any
bulletin board, news group, or magazine article that I have seen. The
difference, is like comparing the 4.0 to driving west from Washington DC on
I-70, versus being Lewis and Clark in 1803 with the V8.

I am not trying to discourage you. Rather, if you have your own machine
shop, and exhaust pipe bending equipment, and an acute eye for detail, then
your success is all but assured. I thought of doing something similar about
six years ago, but instead I elected to learn a foreign language from
scratch, become reasonably fluent in it, and survive for six months in a
non-English-speaking country, learn the customs, make friends, etc. It
turned out to be easier.

I vote for the 4.0. If you decide to do the Magnum V8, by all means get at
least a magazine article out of it.

Earle

<OctaviousMonk@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:1144645288.055496.281480@z34g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
> I have a 90 Sahara witha 4.2L engine that has just died on me. I am
> planning on doing a motor swap soon and I was looking for a 4.0L. Today
> however I got the option of picking up a 95 Grand Cherokee Laredo with
> the V8 and only 75k that was hit in the rear for only $500. I have done
> a ton of research and have all the info I need for the 4.0L swap, but I
> haven't been able to find much on this type of swap. Is it any more
> dificult then the 4.0 swap, what type of money am I loking at, or is it
> even worth it to do in the first place?
> Any info, sugestions, opinions or even a finger pointed in the right
> direction would be greatly appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Randy
>




Earle Horton 04-10-2006 09:39 AM

Re: 1990 wrangler V8 swap question
 
The 1995 V8 is a Dodge Truck Magnum V8, from a totally different line from
the 4.2L and the 4.0L engines. In principle, you could take the engine,
transmission, and transfer case from the GC, and drop the whole mess into
the Sahara. Hook up the drive shafts, exhaust pipes, electricals, etc. and
you are done. However it is likely that no one, in the history of Jeeps,
has done this before. Certainly no one has posted the results on any
bulletin board, news group, or magazine article that I have seen. The
difference, is like comparing the 4.0 to driving west from Washington DC on
I-70, versus being Lewis and Clark in 1803 with the V8.

I am not trying to discourage you. Rather, if you have your own machine
shop, and exhaust pipe bending equipment, and an acute eye for detail, then
your success is all but assured. I thought of doing something similar about
six years ago, but instead I elected to learn a foreign language from
scratch, become reasonably fluent in it, and survive for six months in a
non-English-speaking country, learn the customs, make friends, etc. It
turned out to be easier.

I vote for the 4.0. If you decide to do the Magnum V8, by all means get at
least a magazine article out of it.

Earle

<OctaviousMonk@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:1144645288.055496.281480@z34g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
> I have a 90 Sahara witha 4.2L engine that has just died on me. I am
> planning on doing a motor swap soon and I was looking for a 4.0L. Today
> however I got the option of picking up a 95 Grand Cherokee Laredo with
> the V8 and only 75k that was hit in the rear for only $500. I have done
> a ton of research and have all the info I need for the 4.0L swap, but I
> haven't been able to find much on this type of swap. Is it any more
> dificult then the 4.0 swap, what type of money am I loking at, or is it
> even worth it to do in the first place?
> Any info, sugestions, opinions or even a finger pointed in the right
> direction would be greatly appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Randy
>




Earle Horton 04-10-2006 09:39 AM

Re: 1990 wrangler V8 swap question
 
The 1995 V8 is a Dodge Truck Magnum V8, from a totally different line from
the 4.2L and the 4.0L engines. In principle, you could take the engine,
transmission, and transfer case from the GC, and drop the whole mess into
the Sahara. Hook up the drive shafts, exhaust pipes, electricals, etc. and
you are done. However it is likely that no one, in the history of Jeeps,
has done this before. Certainly no one has posted the results on any
bulletin board, news group, or magazine article that I have seen. The
difference, is like comparing the 4.0 to driving west from Washington DC on
I-70, versus being Lewis and Clark in 1803 with the V8.

I am not trying to discourage you. Rather, if you have your own machine
shop, and exhaust pipe bending equipment, and an acute eye for detail, then
your success is all but assured. I thought of doing something similar about
six years ago, but instead I elected to learn a foreign language from
scratch, become reasonably fluent in it, and survive for six months in a
non-English-speaking country, learn the customs, make friends, etc. It
turned out to be easier.

I vote for the 4.0. If you decide to do the Magnum V8, by all means get at
least a magazine article out of it.

Earle

<OctaviousMonk@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:1144645288.055496.281480@z34g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
> I have a 90 Sahara witha 4.2L engine that has just died on me. I am
> planning on doing a motor swap soon and I was looking for a 4.0L. Today
> however I got the option of picking up a 95 Grand Cherokee Laredo with
> the V8 and only 75k that was hit in the rear for only $500. I have done
> a ton of research and have all the info I need for the 4.0L swap, but I
> haven't been able to find much on this type of swap. Is it any more
> dificult then the 4.0 swap, what type of money am I loking at, or is it
> even worth it to do in the first place?
> Any info, sugestions, opinions or even a finger pointed in the right
> direction would be greatly appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Randy
>




RoyJ 04-10-2006 09:55 AM

Re: 1990 wrangler V8 swap question
 
Ah Earl, you are being too pessimestic. It's only half as hard as you
make it out to be. But I admit it will take twice as long as you expect.

Earle Horton wrote:
> The 1995 V8 is a Dodge Truck Magnum V8, from a totally different line from
> the 4.2L and the 4.0L engines. In principle, you could take the engine,
> transmission, and transfer case from the GC, and drop the whole mess into
> the Sahara. Hook up the drive shafts, exhaust pipes, electricals, etc. and
> you are done. However it is likely that no one, in the history of Jeeps,
> has done this before. Certainly no one has posted the results on any
> bulletin board, news group, or magazine article that I have seen. The
> difference, is like comparing the 4.0 to driving west from Washington DC on
> I-70, versus being Lewis and Clark in 1803 with the V8.
>
> I am not trying to discourage you. Rather, if you have your own machine
> shop, and exhaust pipe bending equipment, and an acute eye for detail, then
> your success is all but assured. I thought of doing something similar about
> six years ago, but instead I elected to learn a foreign language from
> scratch, become reasonably fluent in it, and survive for six months in a
> non-English-speaking country, learn the customs, make friends, etc. It
> turned out to be easier.
>
> I vote for the 4.0. If you decide to do the Magnum V8, by all means get at
> least a magazine article out of it.
>
> Earle
>
> <OctaviousMonk@optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:1144645288.055496.281480@z34g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
>
>>I have a 90 Sahara witha 4.2L engine that has just died on me. I am
>>planning on doing a motor swap soon and I was looking for a 4.0L. Today
>>however I got the option of picking up a 95 Grand Cherokee Laredo with
>>the V8 and only 75k that was hit in the rear for only $500. I have done
>>a ton of research and have all the info I need for the 4.0L swap, but I
>>haven't been able to find much on this type of swap. Is it any more
>>dificult then the 4.0 swap, what type of money am I loking at, or is it
>>even worth it to do in the first place?
>>Any info, sugestions, opinions or even a finger pointed in the right
>>direction would be greatly appreciated.
>>Thanks,
>> Randy
>>

>
>
>


RoyJ 04-10-2006 09:55 AM

Re: 1990 wrangler V8 swap question
 
Ah Earl, you are being too pessimestic. It's only half as hard as you
make it out to be. But I admit it will take twice as long as you expect.

Earle Horton wrote:
> The 1995 V8 is a Dodge Truck Magnum V8, from a totally different line from
> the 4.2L and the 4.0L engines. In principle, you could take the engine,
> transmission, and transfer case from the GC, and drop the whole mess into
> the Sahara. Hook up the drive shafts, exhaust pipes, electricals, etc. and
> you are done. However it is likely that no one, in the history of Jeeps,
> has done this before. Certainly no one has posted the results on any
> bulletin board, news group, or magazine article that I have seen. The
> difference, is like comparing the 4.0 to driving west from Washington DC on
> I-70, versus being Lewis and Clark in 1803 with the V8.
>
> I am not trying to discourage you. Rather, if you have your own machine
> shop, and exhaust pipe bending equipment, and an acute eye for detail, then
> your success is all but assured. I thought of doing something similar about
> six years ago, but instead I elected to learn a foreign language from
> scratch, become reasonably fluent in it, and survive for six months in a
> non-English-speaking country, learn the customs, make friends, etc. It
> turned out to be easier.
>
> I vote for the 4.0. If you decide to do the Magnum V8, by all means get at
> least a magazine article out of it.
>
> Earle
>
> <OctaviousMonk@optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:1144645288.055496.281480@z34g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
>
>>I have a 90 Sahara witha 4.2L engine that has just died on me. I am
>>planning on doing a motor swap soon and I was looking for a 4.0L. Today
>>however I got the option of picking up a 95 Grand Cherokee Laredo with
>>the V8 and only 75k that was hit in the rear for only $500. I have done
>>a ton of research and have all the info I need for the 4.0L swap, but I
>>haven't been able to find much on this type of swap. Is it any more
>>dificult then the 4.0 swap, what type of money am I loking at, or is it
>>even worth it to do in the first place?
>>Any info, sugestions, opinions or even a finger pointed in the right
>>direction would be greatly appreciated.
>>Thanks,
>> Randy
>>

>
>
>


RoyJ 04-10-2006 09:55 AM

Re: 1990 wrangler V8 swap question
 
Ah Earl, you are being too pessimestic. It's only half as hard as you
make it out to be. But I admit it will take twice as long as you expect.

Earle Horton wrote:
> The 1995 V8 is a Dodge Truck Magnum V8, from a totally different line from
> the 4.2L and the 4.0L engines. In principle, you could take the engine,
> transmission, and transfer case from the GC, and drop the whole mess into
> the Sahara. Hook up the drive shafts, exhaust pipes, electricals, etc. and
> you are done. However it is likely that no one, in the history of Jeeps,
> has done this before. Certainly no one has posted the results on any
> bulletin board, news group, or magazine article that I have seen. The
> difference, is like comparing the 4.0 to driving west from Washington DC on
> I-70, versus being Lewis and Clark in 1803 with the V8.
>
> I am not trying to discourage you. Rather, if you have your own machine
> shop, and exhaust pipe bending equipment, and an acute eye for detail, then
> your success is all but assured. I thought of doing something similar about
> six years ago, but instead I elected to learn a foreign language from
> scratch, become reasonably fluent in it, and survive for six months in a
> non-English-speaking country, learn the customs, make friends, etc. It
> turned out to be easier.
>
> I vote for the 4.0. If you decide to do the Magnum V8, by all means get at
> least a magazine article out of it.
>
> Earle
>
> <OctaviousMonk@optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:1144645288.055496.281480@z34g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
>
>>I have a 90 Sahara witha 4.2L engine that has just died on me. I am
>>planning on doing a motor swap soon and I was looking for a 4.0L. Today
>>however I got the option of picking up a 95 Grand Cherokee Laredo with
>>the V8 and only 75k that was hit in the rear for only $500. I have done
>>a ton of research and have all the info I need for the 4.0L swap, but I
>>haven't been able to find much on this type of swap. Is it any more
>>dificult then the 4.0 swap, what type of money am I loking at, or is it
>>even worth it to do in the first place?
>>Any info, sugestions, opinions or even a finger pointed in the right
>>direction would be greatly appreciated.
>>Thanks,
>> Randy
>>

>
>
>


Spdloader 04-10-2006 10:23 AM

Re: 1990 wrangler V8 swap question
 
I'd hate to read a post in which you WERE trying to discourage someone,
Earl.

lol

Spdloader


"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:443a5dca$0$14906$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> The 1995 V8 is a Dodge Truck Magnum V8, from a totally different line from
> the 4.2L and the 4.0L engines. In principle, you could take the engine,
> transmission, and transfer case from the GC, and drop the whole mess into
> the Sahara. Hook up the drive shafts, exhaust pipes, electricals, etc.
> and
> you are done. However it is likely that no one, in the history of Jeeps,
> has done this before. Certainly no one has posted the results on any
> bulletin board, news group, or magazine article that I have seen. The
> difference, is like comparing the 4.0 to driving west from Washington DC
> on
> I-70, versus being Lewis and Clark in 1803 with the V8.
>
> I am not trying to discourage you. Rather, if you have your own machine
> shop, and exhaust pipe bending equipment, and an acute eye for detail,
> then
> your success is all but assured. I thought of doing something similar
> about
> six years ago, but instead I elected to learn a foreign language from
> scratch, become reasonably fluent in it, and survive for six months in a
> non-English-speaking country, learn the customs, make friends, etc. It
> turned out to be easier.
>
> I vote for the 4.0. If you decide to do the Magnum V8, by all means get
> at
> least a magazine article out of it.
>
> Earle
>
> <OctaviousMonk@optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:1144645288.055496.281480@z34g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
>> I have a 90 Sahara witha 4.2L engine that has just died on me. I am
>> planning on doing a motor swap soon and I was looking for a 4.0L. Today
>> however I got the option of picking up a 95 Grand Cherokee Laredo with
>> the V8 and only 75k that was hit in the rear for only $500. I have done
>> a ton of research and have all the info I need for the 4.0L swap, but I
>> haven't been able to find much on this type of swap. Is it any more
>> dificult then the 4.0 swap, what type of money am I loking at, or is it
>> even worth it to do in the first place?
>> Any info, sugestions, opinions or even a finger pointed in the right
>> direction would be greatly appreciated.
>> Thanks,
>> Randy
>>

>
>




Spdloader 04-10-2006 10:23 AM

Re: 1990 wrangler V8 swap question
 
I'd hate to read a post in which you WERE trying to discourage someone,
Earl.

lol

Spdloader


"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:443a5dca$0$14906$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> The 1995 V8 is a Dodge Truck Magnum V8, from a totally different line from
> the 4.2L and the 4.0L engines. In principle, you could take the engine,
> transmission, and transfer case from the GC, and drop the whole mess into
> the Sahara. Hook up the drive shafts, exhaust pipes, electricals, etc.
> and
> you are done. However it is likely that no one, in the history of Jeeps,
> has done this before. Certainly no one has posted the results on any
> bulletin board, news group, or magazine article that I have seen. The
> difference, is like comparing the 4.0 to driving west from Washington DC
> on
> I-70, versus being Lewis and Clark in 1803 with the V8.
>
> I am not trying to discourage you. Rather, if you have your own machine
> shop, and exhaust pipe bending equipment, and an acute eye for detail,
> then
> your success is all but assured. I thought of doing something similar
> about
> six years ago, but instead I elected to learn a foreign language from
> scratch, become reasonably fluent in it, and survive for six months in a
> non-English-speaking country, learn the customs, make friends, etc. It
> turned out to be easier.
>
> I vote for the 4.0. If you decide to do the Magnum V8, by all means get
> at
> least a magazine article out of it.
>
> Earle
>
> <OctaviousMonk@optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:1144645288.055496.281480@z34g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
>> I have a 90 Sahara witha 4.2L engine that has just died on me. I am
>> planning on doing a motor swap soon and I was looking for a 4.0L. Today
>> however I got the option of picking up a 95 Grand Cherokee Laredo with
>> the V8 and only 75k that was hit in the rear for only $500. I have done
>> a ton of research and have all the info I need for the 4.0L swap, but I
>> haven't been able to find much on this type of swap. Is it any more
>> dificult then the 4.0 swap, what type of money am I loking at, or is it
>> even worth it to do in the first place?
>> Any info, sugestions, opinions or even a finger pointed in the right
>> direction would be greatly appreciated.
>> Thanks,
>> Randy
>>

>
>




Spdloader 04-10-2006 10:23 AM

Re: 1990 wrangler V8 swap question
 
I'd hate to read a post in which you WERE trying to discourage someone,
Earl.

lol

Spdloader


"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:443a5dca$0$14906$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> The 1995 V8 is a Dodge Truck Magnum V8, from a totally different line from
> the 4.2L and the 4.0L engines. In principle, you could take the engine,
> transmission, and transfer case from the GC, and drop the whole mess into
> the Sahara. Hook up the drive shafts, exhaust pipes, electricals, etc.
> and
> you are done. However it is likely that no one, in the history of Jeeps,
> has done this before. Certainly no one has posted the results on any
> bulletin board, news group, or magazine article that I have seen. The
> difference, is like comparing the 4.0 to driving west from Washington DC
> on
> I-70, versus being Lewis and Clark in 1803 with the V8.
>
> I am not trying to discourage you. Rather, if you have your own machine
> shop, and exhaust pipe bending equipment, and an acute eye for detail,
> then
> your success is all but assured. I thought of doing something similar
> about
> six years ago, but instead I elected to learn a foreign language from
> scratch, become reasonably fluent in it, and survive for six months in a
> non-English-speaking country, learn the customs, make friends, etc. It
> turned out to be easier.
>
> I vote for the 4.0. If you decide to do the Magnum V8, by all means get
> at
> least a magazine article out of it.
>
> Earle
>
> <OctaviousMonk@optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:1144645288.055496.281480@z34g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
>> I have a 90 Sahara witha 4.2L engine that has just died on me. I am
>> planning on doing a motor swap soon and I was looking for a 4.0L. Today
>> however I got the option of picking up a 95 Grand Cherokee Laredo with
>> the V8 and only 75k that was hit in the rear for only $500. I have done
>> a ton of research and have all the info I need for the 4.0L swap, but I
>> haven't been able to find much on this type of swap. Is it any more
>> dificult then the 4.0 swap, what type of money am I loking at, or is it
>> even worth it to do in the first place?
>> Any info, sugestions, opinions or even a finger pointed in the right
>> direction would be greatly appreciated.
>> Thanks,
>> Randy
>>

>
>





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